Life experiences of Partha and Sourav (To Everyone)

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Kramer and Other Respected Members,

Namaskar. All smiles for

asking fundamental questions. But it would have been best if you

could have asked these questions without putting my name it. I am

not sure about Partha-ji's idea, but I am speaking for myself.

 

1. I never give gemstone remedies. When asked for it, I desist and

clearly state that I am not in favor of 'material' remedies.

However, I do ask if a person is using a gemstone so that I can try

to understand if there is any external factor playing in his chart.

But I DO NOT give any material remedies.

 

2. Sometimes, I propose mantra remedies based on Guru Sanjay-ji's

book. It has been clearly mentioned that satvik mantras and pujas

(worships)will not cause harm. This is a fact and will not change

even if I grow old. Transmission and success of mantram

 

(a) require spiritual energy and hence I do recommend that concerned

persons should be try to take such a mantram from a spiritually

advanced person.

(b) require intense prayer, faith and concentration. This I also

mention.

 

3. I do not give marriage counseling. Persons ask specific questions

and I see such indications in the chart. Please do not be fooled

into thinking that I use this forum for giving remedies. I

principally read charts and assist myself and the person in

understanding it and . This by itself is a

very good pratice for any budding astrogy student. That is the

primary objective of this forum: To interact and learn.

 

4. I second Sanjay Prabhakaran-ji's e-mail. Wisdom doesn't come with

age only. A little experience, if properly analysed, can go a long

long way in understanding life. If you practice that precisely, you

will see that the amount of experience you gather in ONE WEEK will

be

enough for you to mull over and give you a lot lot more to

understand than if you are just carelessly sailing through life.

Practice that

and come back to me with your new set of questions. Sri

Sankaracharya's example was perhaps an exception but points to the

answer that age is not a measure of intelligence or wisdom.

Experience helps, but how that experience is 'processed' and acted

upon is the best measure of wisdom.

 

5. In the end of an e-mail where I am in doubt and I understand my

limitations, I write and request the Learned Guru's to help me and

rectify my e-mail. It is not simply a casual 'waiver'. I really mean

that I really am requesting their examination and feedback.

 

6. Your questions have an aggressive tone but there is a component

of clarity and

truth. That is the reason I am replying to your questions. However,

you need to pull out all our e-mails and read them carefully before

you try to say that the theme of my e-mails is to give off-hand

advice on marriage and relationship. You need to do your homework

first before asking me such blunt questions.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Sourav

=====================================================================

 

vedic astrology, "giddyupguys"

<giddyupguys> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Anil

>

> You seem to have a very compelling case when you say:

> " But Mr. Krammer, you must note that to be a good astrologer

apart

> from experience, one also requires some other skills like

maturity ,

> holistic approach , good understanding of human psychology and

> counseling which not only depends on age"

>

> This is perhaps the most relevant point that I want to ask

everybody

> who gives predictions on this list. Does not matter, who it is, if

> they are Panditji's, phds or young fellows, gurus:

>

> Anybody can answer these questions:

>

> 1. Are you confidant to prescribe a remedy (like a gem, a diamond)

and

> have you seen it work. Write about your experiences.

> 2. Do you have enough Vedic astrology and life experiences to

identify

> a problem if I give a person's details? (without the native

telling

> you his problem)

> 3. How have your life experiences made you a better

astrolger/predicter

>

> Everybody can share their views. To me it will be an educational

> experience to understand astrology.

>

> Kramer

[Guest guest]

And everyone should note that the person under question have replied to the

question without getting offended. This shows their mental maturity.

 

The question is not very logic..............because we can ask question in every field.

 

You can ask a Dr before he gives treatment...........if he has treated similar

disease. We can ask him if he really suffered from that disease. Else , how can

he understand the pain of his patient.

 

We can ask a teacher ........if he has made all his students a top ranking. We

can also ask if he is a not a top ranker .......how he can make his student a

top ranker.

 

Hope, this is sufficient.

 

Best regards

 

A Learner

 

 

Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Kramer and Other Respected Members,

Namaskar. All smiles for asking fundamental questions. But

it would have been best if you could have asked these questions without putting

my name it. I am not sure about Partha-ji's idea, but I am speaking for

myself.1. I never give gemstone remedies. When asked for it, I desist and

clearly state that I am not in favor of 'material' remedies. However, I do ask

if a person is using a gemstone so that I can try to understand if there is any

external factor playing in his chart. But I DO NOT give any material remedies.2.

Sometimes,

I propose mantra remedies based on Guru Sanjay-ji's book. It has been clearly

mentioned that satvik mantras and pujas (worships)will not cause harm. This is

a fact and will not change even if I grow old. Transmission and success of

mantram (a) require spiritual energy and hence I do recommend that concerned

persons should be try to take such a mantram from a spiritually advanced

person.(b) require intense prayer, faith and concentration. This I also

mention.3. I do not give marriage counseling. Persons ask specific questions

and I see such indications in the chart. Please do not be fooled into thinking

that I use this forum for giving remedies. I principally read charts and assist

myself and the person in understanding it and . This by itself is a very good

pratice for any budding astrogy student. That is the primary objective of this

forum: To interact and learn.4. I second Sanjay Prabhakaran-ji's e-mail.

Wisdom doesn't come with age only. A little experience, if properly analysed,

can go a long long way in understanding life. If you practice that precisely,

you will see that the amount of experience you gather in ONE WEEK will be

enough for you to mull over and give you a lot lot more to understand than if

you are just carelessly sailing through life. Practice that and come back to me

with your new set of questions. Sri Sankaracharya's example was perhaps an

exception but points to the answer that age is not a measure of intelligence or

wisdom. Experience helps, but how that experience is 'processed' and acted upon

is the best measure of wisdom.5. In the end of an e-mail where I am in doubt

and I understand my limitations, I write and request the Learned Guru's to help

me and rectify my e-mail. It is not simply a casual 'waiver'. I really mean that

I really am requesting their examination and feedback.6.

Your questions have an aggressive tone but there is a component of clarity and

truth. That is the reason I am replying to your questions. However, you need to

pull out all our e-mails and read them carefully before you try to say that the

theme of my e-mails is to give off-hand advice on marriage and relationship.

You need to do your homework first before asking me such blunt questions.Warm

Regards,Sourav=====================================================================---

In vedic astrology, "giddyupguys" <giddyupguys> wrote:> >

Dear Mr. Anil > > You seem to have a very compelling case when you say:> " But

Mr. Krammer, you must note that to be a good astrologer apart > from

experience, one also requires some other skills like maturity , > holistic

approach , good understanding of human psychology and > counseling which not

only

depends on age"> > This is perhaps the most relevant point that I want to ask

everybody > who gives predictions on this list. Does not matter, who it is, if

> they are Panditji's, phds or young fellows, gurus: > > Anybody can answer

these questions: > > 1. Are you confidant to prescribe a remedy (like a gem, a

diamond) and > have you seen it work. Write about your experiences.> 2. Do you

have enough Vedic astrology and life experiences to identify > a problem if I

give a person's details? (without the native telling > you his problem)> 3. How

have your life experiences made you a better astrolger/predicter> > Everybody

can share their views. To me it will be an educational > experience to

understand astrology.> > KramerArchives:

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[Guest guest]

Dear Partha/Sourav

 

I read all the emails. Partha's account was touching. I am very

positive now that you are helping many people here and at your

work/home to make a difference. Your life episodes are tough to go

through.

Sourav: you are kind hearted person helping others.

 

I hope elephant God Ganesh will give blessings to all of us in our

pursuit of knowledge and wisdom.

 

Signing off to seek a live Jyotish Master in California

Good bye and Jaya Jagganatha!

 

Kramer