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Dear Respected Members,

 

I had read that when the lagna is empty or having no planet, the

second house is considered as lagna or taken as considration for the

predications or the personality of the person.

 

am i right or if i am not then kindly correct me.

 

Sir there are many other persons i talked about this , but no one was

able to answer correctly. every one has different opinion.

 

THnaks and regards.

 

TARUN.........

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Hare Krishna

Dear Tarun,

There may not be any planets in the lagna, but there are many more

clues. The sign in lagna itself will tell alot,where is the LL,what

infuences are on it? PLace of LL is also the paka lagna,

What planets are aspecting the lagna? What planets are having argala

on lagna??Look at arudha lagna as well for clues.

No, 2nd house is not 1st house.Don't use it as a lagna.

 

First house is physical part of chart,

for personality you can look at all the planets, peticuliarly the

Moon,5th house, Sun ect etc.

Best wishes,

Lakshmi

 

 

vedic astrology, "tarun" <tarun_vst>

wrote:

>

> Dear Respected Members,

>

> I had read that when the lagna is empty or having no planet, the

> second house is considered as lagna or taken as considration for the

> predications or the personality of the person.

>

> am i right or if i am not then kindly correct me.

>

> Sir there are many other persons i talked about this , but no one

was

> able to answer correctly. every one has different opinion.

>

> THnaks and regards.

>

> TARUN.........

[Guest guest]

Dear Tarun,

No that is not correct.

Chandrashekhar.

tarun wrote:

Dear Respected Members,

I had read that when the lagna is empty or having no planet, the

second house is considered as lagna or taken as considration for the

predications or the personality of the person.

am i right or if i am not then kindly correct me.

Sir there are many other persons i talked about this , but no one was

able to answer correctly. every one has different opinion.

THnaks and regards.

TARUN.........

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

well only 2nd house from lagna has lock on call arudha

 

so it controll the lagna

for example if one has saggi lagna and no planet and

jupitor in 2nd house

jupitrol has lot controll on your ist house

and thats all

ram

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> Dear Tarun,

> No that is not correct.

> Chandrashekhar.

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> tarun wrote:

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> > Dear Respected Members,

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> > I had read that when the lagna is empty or having

> no planet, the

> > second house is considered as lagna or taken as

> considration for the

> > predications or the personality of the person.

> >

> > am i right or if i am not then kindly correct me.

> >

> > Sir there are many other persons i talked about

> this , but no one was

> > able to answer correctly. every one has different

> opinion.

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> > THnaks and regards.

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> > TARUN.........

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||| Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah |||

 

Dear List Members, Namaskaar.,

 

Ram – I believe you are referring to the concept of Argala. This is

planetary intervention / obstruction on a said house / houses.

 

Tarun, for further clarification, itr is also advisable to go through

the Shastras:

 

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BPHS (English) Translation:

Ch. 31. Argala, or Intervention from Grahas

1. O Maharishi Parashar, you have told of auspicious effects, related

to Argala. Kindly narrate its conditions and effects.

2-9. Formation of Argala. Maitreya, I explain below Argala to know the

definite effects of Bhavas and Grahas. Grahas in the 4th, 2nd and the

11th cause Argalas, while obstructors of the Argala will be those in

the 10th, 12th and 3rd from a Bhava, or a Grah. If the Argala causing

Grah is stronger than the obstructing one, the former will prevail.

Or, if the number of Argalas are more than the obstructing Grahas,

then also the Argala will prevail. If there are 3, or more malefics in

the 3rd they will cause Vipreet Argala (more effective intervention),

which will also be harmless and be very favourable. The 5th is also an

Argala place, while the Grah in the 9th will counteract such Argala.

As Rahu and Ketu have retrograde motions, the Argalas and obstructions

be also counted accordingly in a reverse manner. Maharishis say, that

the Argala, caused by one Grah, will yield limited effect, by two

medium and by more than two, excellent effects. Argalas should be

counted from a Rashi, or a Grah, as the case may be. The Argala, which

is unobstructed will be fruitful, while the one duly obstructed will

go astray. The Argala effects will be derived in the Dasha periods of

the Rashi, or Grah concerned.

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Arudha is the reflection of Maya. Furthermore, the Arudha cannot fall

in the 2nd house, mathematically.

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BPHS (English) Translation:

Ch. 29. Bhava Padas

1-3. Method of Bhava Calculation. O Brahmin, I shall now tell you

about the Padas (Arudhas) for Bhavas and Grahas as well, as laid down

by the earlier Maharishis. The Pad of Lagn will correspond to the

Rashi, arrived at by counting so many Rashis from Lagn's Lord, as he

is away from Tanu Bhava. Similarly Padas for other Bhavas be known

through their Lords. The word "Pad" exclusively denotes the Pad for Lagn.

Names of the 12 Arudhas are Lagn Pad - Arudh of Tanu Bhava, Dhan of

Dhan, Vikram (Bhratru) of Sahaj, Matru (Sukh) of Bandhu, Mantra (Putr)

of Putr, Rog (Satru) of Ari, Dar (Kalatr) of Yuvati, Maran of Randhr,

Pitru of Dharm Bhava, Karm of Karm, Labh of Labh, Vyaya of Vyaya.

4-5. Special Exceptions. The same Bhava, or the 7th from it does not

become its Pad. When the Pad falls in the same Bhava, the 10th

therefrom be treated, as its Pad. Similarly, when the 7th becomes the

Pad of a Bhava, the 4th from the original Bhava in question be

treated, as its Pad. If the ruler of a Bhava be in the 4th from the

Bhava, then the very Bhava occupied be noted, as the Pad.

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Tarun, there are many points of reference to a chart, some of which are:

Lagna

Chandra (Moon) Lagna

Arudha Lagna

Bahva Chalit Chart

The Lagna is key, naturally, as without it, there are no other

reference points / calculations further…

May the Gurus continue to guide us.

 

Best wishes and warm regards,

Nitin.

 

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

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well only 2nd house from lagna has lock on call arudha

 

so it controll the lagna

for example if one has saggi lagna and no planet and

jupitor in 2nd house

jupitrol has lot controll on your ist house

and thats all

ram

--- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46>

wrote:

 

> Dear Tarun,

> No that is not correct.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> tarun wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Respected Members,

> >

> > I had read that when the lagna is empty or having

> no planet, the

> > second house is considered as lagna or taken as

> considration for the

> > predications or the personality of the person.

> >

> > am i right or if i am not then kindly correct me.

> >

> > Sir there are many other persons i talked about

> this , but no one was

> > able to answer correctly. every one has different

> opinion.

> >

> > THnaks and regards.

> >

> > TARUN.........