Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Dear list members, Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to end. Every astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth period for the whole mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of the times I had to fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very elementry knowelegde of astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my chart. I request learned members to analyse my chart why this is happning to me. DOB - October 2nd 1969 Time - 12:25 PM Place- 82E54, 25N08. Regards, Sadashiva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Sadashiva, Jupiter is your Atmakaraka. Vimshottari Dasa of AK is usually tough, being the period to learn the lessons you are born for. Rema --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15 wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > end. Every > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > period for the whole > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > the times I had to > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > elementry knowelegde of > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > chart. I request > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > happning to me. > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > Time - 12:25 PM > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > Regards, > Sadashiva. > > > > > > The all-new My - Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Namasthe We follow a different method of analysis than in Northern India. Acordingly :- You Lagna is Sagitarious ( Noon Time). Jupiter : Lagnadhipathy - A natural Benefic and being Lagnadhipathy, its dasa should be good. But Jupiter is also 4th house Lord - Lord of two kendras. (1) Kendradhipathya dosha of jupiter is the severest amoung the natural benefics. (2) Jupiter is combusted (Moudhya) (3) the most inportant aspect i anybodys life is the Bhagyasthana - 9th house. It is having Ketu along with Venus. Venus - 6th + 11 th house lord , Sathru of the Bhagyadhipathy(Sun). Ketu is regarded as Mathamaha(father/grandfather of mother). The positioning indicates that your bhagya is afflicted due to sapa from the forefathers of mother. Sun in the Kendra of moon + Venus navamsa in the rasi where sun is placed (its neecharasi) and the fact that jupiter being the 4th house lord (Mathru Stahana) confirms it. Jupiter is posited along with sun. Hence Jupiter being your lagnadhipathy is directly affected. How can a person survive without Bhagya. ( Anugraha from the forefathers/guru etc) ?. More over Note that saturn is aspecting the moon from its neecha rasi. This Saturn (Neecha in your horoscope) is tranversing the 7th onwards from the begining of jupiter Maha dasa. Here also note that the Saturn is the 8th (Arishta) and 9th lord. (Bhagya sthanadhadhipathy from moon in Neecha Rasi and aspecting the moon Mathru Karaka). I hope this answers your question. Suresh Babu --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15 wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > end. Every > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > period for the whole > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > the times I had to > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > elementry knowelegde of > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > chart. I request > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > happning to me. > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > Time - 12:25 PM > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > Regards, > Sadashiva. > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Namaste, Are you suggesting that Guru is a malefic for Dhanu lagna ? What you said about kedradhipatya dosh will apply to all people who have dhanu lagna. However the kedradipatya dosh is nullified in this case as guru is again in a kendra. Kedradipatya dosh applies to budh and guru and it is nullified if they being lord of kendras only go to other kendras, atleast that is my understanding. Otherwise guru and budha will become malefics for their own lagnas. That seems not quite feasible. I can understand budh geting this dosh for lagnas of guru and vice versa. But then it will depend on who they associate with to get a picture of their functional nature. Here budh is with ravi the 9th lord, he is exalted so budh won't be malefic. guru being lagna lord is NOT malefic. I do not know why this native had bad time for the entire guru mahadasha. Lets say we dont know if there is any overriding combination in this chart to give such results, but lets not call guru a malefic for dhanu lagna. .... On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:58:51 -0800 (PST), Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > Namasthe > > We follow a different method of analysis than in > Northern India. > > Acordingly :- > You Lagna is Sagitarious ( Noon Time). > Jupiter : Lagnadhipathy - A natural Benefic and being > Lagnadhipathy, its dasa should be good. > But > Jupiter is also 4th house Lord - Lord of two kendras. > (1) Kendradhipathya dosha of jupiter is the severest > amoung the natural benefics. > (2) Jupiter is combusted (Moudhya) > (3) the most inportant aspect i anybodys life is the > Bhagyasthana - 9th house. It is having Ketu along with > Venus. > Venus - 6th + 11 th house lord , Sathru of the > Bhagyadhipathy(Sun). Ketu is regarded as > Mathamaha(father/grandfather of mother). The > positioning indicates that your bhagya is afflicted > due to sapa from the forefathers of mother. > > Sun in the Kendra of moon + Venus navamsa in the rasi > where sun is placed (its neecharasi) and the fact that > jupiter being the 4th house lord (Mathru Stahana) > confirms it. > > Jupiter is posited along with sun. Hence Jupiter being > your lagnadhipathy is directly affected. > > How can a person survive without Bhagya. ( Anugraha > from the forefathers/guru etc) ?. > > More over Note that saturn is aspecting the moon from > its neecha rasi. This Saturn (Neecha in your > horoscope) is tranversing the 7th onwards from the > begining of jupiter Maha dasa. > > Here also note that the Saturn is the 8th (Arishta) > and 9th lord. (Bhagya sthanadhadhipathy from moon in > Neecha Rasi and aspecting the moon Mathru Karaka). > > I hope this answers your question. > Suresh Babu > --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15 wrote: > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > > end. Every > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > > period for the whole > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > > the times I had to > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > > elementry knowelegde of > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > > chart. I request > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > > happning to me. > > > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > > Time - 12:25 PM > > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > > > Regards, > > Sadashiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Respected Members, As far as I know, he has kendratipatya dosha. The lord of kendras (4th and 1st) is sitting in another kendra (10th).. Also Mercuy is bhadakathipathi for him (being the lord of 7th house) and he is exalted in 10th house. But even then not the entire period should have been bad for him. Saturn is sitting in the 5th house and spoiling it. But antar dasa of Sun should have been fine for him (lord of the 9th house is in 10th house) although it may not have had full effects.. I am not sure about the effects of Mars here. Mars should be a benefic for him and he is sitting in the lagna.. thanks partha vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote: > Namaste, > > Are you suggesting that Guru is a malefic for Dhanu lagna ? What you > said about kedradhipatya dosh will apply to all people who have dhanu > lagna. However the kedradipatya dosh is nullified in this case as guru > is again in a kendra. Kedradipatya dosh applies to budh and guru and > it is nullified if they being lord of kendras only go to other > kendras, atleast that is my understanding. Otherwise guru and budha > will become malefics for their own lagnas. That seems not quite > feasible. I can understand budh geting this dosh for lagnas of guru > and vice versa. But then it will depend on who they associate with to > get a picture of their functional nature. Here budh is with ravi the > 9th lord, he is exalted so budh won't be malefic. guru being lagna > lord is NOT malefic. > > I do not know why this native had bad time for the entire guru > mahadasha. Lets say we dont know if there is any overriding > combination in this chart to give such results, but lets not call guru > a malefic for dhanu lagna. > > ... > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:58:51 -0800 (PST), Suresh Babu.A.G > <sureshbabuag> wrote: > > Namasthe > > > > We follow a different method of analysis than in > > Northern India. > > > > Acordingly :- > > You Lagna is Sagitarious ( Noon Time). > > Jupiter : Lagnadhipathy - A natural Benefic and being > > Lagnadhipathy, its dasa should be good. > > But > > Jupiter is also 4th house Lord - Lord of two kendras. > > (1) Kendradhipathya dosha of jupiter is the severest > > amoung the natural benefics. > > (2) Jupiter is combusted (Moudhya) > > (3) the most inportant aspect i anybodys life is the > > Bhagyasthana - 9th house. It is having Ketu along with > > Venus. > > Venus - 6th + 11 th house lord , Sathru of the > > Bhagyadhipathy(Sun). Ketu is regarded as > > Mathamaha(father/grandfather of mother). The > > positioning indicates that your bhagya is afflicted > > due to sapa from the forefathers of mother. > > > > Sun in the Kendra of moon + Venus navamsa in the rasi > > where sun is placed (its neecharasi) and the fact that > > jupiter being the 4th house lord (Mathru Stahana) > > confirms it. > > > > Jupiter is posited along with sun. Hence Jupiter being > > your lagnadhipathy is directly affected. > > > > How can a person survive without Bhagya. ( Anugraha > > from the forefathers/guru etc) ?. > > > > More over Note that saturn is aspecting the moon from > > its neecha rasi. This Saturn (Neecha in your > > horoscope) is tranversing the 7th onwards from the > > begining of jupiter Maha dasa. > > > > Here also note that the Saturn is the 8th (Arishta) > > and 9th lord. (Bhagya sthanadhadhipathy from moon in > > Neecha Rasi and aspecting the moon Mathru Karaka). > > > > I hope this answers your question. > > Suresh Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > > > end. Every > > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > > > period for the whole > > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > > > the times I had to > > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > > > elementry knowelegde of > > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > > > chart. I request > > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > > > happning to me. > > > > > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > > > Time - 12:25 PM > > > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sadashiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Children International > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > Learn More > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Namaste, Thats not a kendradipati dosh. Guru is lagna lord so he does not get kendradhipati dosh. Lagna happens to be one of the trines as well. Budh for gurus lagnas and guru for budh's lagnas get kendradhipati dosh. He does have mithuna rashi and from there one can argure that guru has kendradhipati dosh ( Not from lagna, one needs to be clear about this. Lagna lord does NOT get kendradhipati dosh. Now coming back to mithuna rashi the kendradhipati dosh is nulled as Guru is in kendra as well. I think one may have to use a diffrent form of vimshottari dasha as 10th lord is in 10th. That could be one of the ways to understand the nature of dasha. Standard vimshottari does not indicate much problems in guru mahadasha. .... On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:48:48 -0000, partha_r <partha_r wrote: > > Respected Members, > As far as I know, he has kendratipatya dosha. The lord of kendras > (4th and 1st) is sitting in another kendra (10th).. Also Mercuy is > bhadakathipathi for him (being the lord of 7th house) and he is > exalted in 10th house. But even then not the entire period should > have been bad for him. Saturn is sitting in the 5th house and > spoiling it. But antar dasa of Sun should have been fine for him > (lord of the 9th house is in 10th house) although it may not have > had full effects.. > > I am not sure about the effects of Mars here. Mars should be a > benefic for him and he is sitting in the lagna.. > > thanks > partha > > > vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> > > wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > Are you suggesting that Guru is a malefic for Dhanu lagna ? What > you > > said about kedradhipatya dosh will apply to all people who have > dhanu > > lagna. However the kedradipatya dosh is nullified in this case as > guru > > is again in a kendra. Kedradipatya dosh applies to budh and guru > and > > it is nullified if they being lord of kendras only go to other > > kendras, atleast that is my understanding. Otherwise guru and budha > > will become malefics for their own lagnas. That seems not quite > > feasible. I can understand budh geting this dosh for lagnas of guru > > and vice versa. But then it will depend on who they associate with > to > > get a picture of their functional nature. Here budh is with ravi > the > > 9th lord, he is exalted so budh won't be malefic. guru being lagna > > lord is NOT malefic. > > > > I do not know why this native had bad time for the entire guru > > mahadasha. Lets say we dont know if there is any overriding > > combination in this chart to give such results, but lets not call > guru > > a malefic for dhanu lagna. > > > > ... > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:58:51 -0800 (PST), Suresh Babu.A.G > > <sureshbabuag> wrote: > > > Namasthe > > > > > > We follow a different method of analysis than in > > > Northern India. > > > > > > Acordingly :- > > > You Lagna is Sagitarious ( Noon Time). > > > Jupiter : Lagnadhipathy - A natural Benefic and being > > > Lagnadhipathy, its dasa should be good. > > > But > > > Jupiter is also 4th house Lord - Lord of two kendras. > > > (1) Kendradhipathya dosha of jupiter is the severest > > > amoung the natural benefics. > > > (2) Jupiter is combusted (Moudhya) > > > (3) the most inportant aspect i anybodys life is the > > > Bhagyasthana - 9th house. It is having Ketu along with > > > Venus. > > > Venus - 6th + 11 th house lord , Sathru of the > > > Bhagyadhipathy(Sun). Ketu is regarded as > > > Mathamaha(father/grandfather of mother). The > > > positioning indicates that your bhagya is afflicted > > > due to sapa from the forefathers of mother. > > > > > > Sun in the Kendra of moon + Venus navamsa in the rasi > > > where sun is placed (its neecharasi) and the fact that > > > jupiter being the 4th house lord (Mathru Stahana) > > > confirms it. > > > > > > Jupiter is posited along with sun. Hence Jupiter being > > > your lagnadhipathy is directly affected. > > > > > > How can a person survive without Bhagya. ( Anugraha > > > from the forefathers/guru etc) ?. > > > > > > More over Note that saturn is aspecting the moon from > > > its neecha rasi. This Saturn (Neecha in your > > > horoscope) is tranversing the 7th onwards from the > > > begining of jupiter Maha dasa. > > > > > > Here also note that the Saturn is the 8th (Arishta) > > > and 9th lord. (Bhagya sthanadhadhipathy from moon in > > > Neecha Rasi and aspecting the moon Mathru Karaka). > > > > > > I hope this answers your question. > > > Suresh Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > > > > end. Every > > > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > > > > period for the whole > > > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > > > > the times I had to > > > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > > > > elementry knowelegde of > > > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > > > > chart. I request > > > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > > > > happning to me. > > > > > > > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > > > > Time - 12:25 PM > > > > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sadashiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Children International > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > > And Give Her Hope > > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > > > And Change His Life > > > Learn More > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Dear Punditji, I am sorry for not being clear about this.. Yes, I have read Shri. B.V.Raman on Kendrathipathi dosha and he had said that a lagna lord doesn't have this dosha.. But I have also read other predictions where it said that benefic just being a lord of kendras is bad.. so which one to take?.. instead of forming it as a question, I have put it as a suggestion in my previous post.. sorry about it. also I have read it in another website where the person with Kanya lagna had a very good jupiter mahadasa.. but according to Shri B.V.Raman, Jupiter has kendrathipathi dosha.. can you clear that one for me?... Also can you clear one more thing for me, even if lagna lord is placed badly in any house (like 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th) as long as it doesn't have any afflictions or aspects, it is going to do good to that particular house and also to that person in general during its mahadasa?.. can I say this.. thanks partha vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote: > Namaste, > > Thats not a kendradipati dosh. Guru is lagna lord so he does not get > kendradhipati dosh. Lagna happens to be one of the trines as well. > Budh for gurus lagnas and guru for budh's lagnas get kendradhipati > dosh. He does have mithuna rashi and from there one can argure that > guru has kendradhipati dosh ( Not from lagna, one needs to be clear > about this. Lagna lord does NOT get kendradhipati dosh. Now coming > back to mithuna rashi the kendradhipati dosh is nulled as Guru is in > kendra as well. > > I think one may have to use a diffrent form of vimshottari dasha as > 10th lord is in 10th. That could be one of the ways to understand the > nature of dasha. Standard vimshottari does not indicate much problems > in guru mahadasha. > > ... > > > On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:48:48 -0000, partha_r <partha_r> wrote: > > > > Respected Members, > > As far as I know, he has kendratipatya dosha. The lord of kendras > > (4th and 1st) is sitting in another kendra (10th).. Also Mercuy is > > bhadakathipathi for him (being the lord of 7th house) and he is > > exalted in 10th house. But even then not the entire period should > > have been bad for him. Saturn is sitting in the 5th house and > > spoiling it. But antar dasa of Sun should have been fine for him > > (lord of the 9th house is in 10th house) although it may not have > > had full effects.. > > > > I am not sure about the effects of Mars here. Mars should be a > > benefic for him and he is sitting in the lagna.. > > > > thanks > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Are you suggesting that Guru is a malefic for Dhanu lagna ? What > > you > > > said about kedradhipatya dosh will apply to all people who have > > dhanu > > > lagna. However the kedradipatya dosh is nullified in this case as > > guru > > > is again in a kendra. Kedradipatya dosh applies to budh and guru > > and > > > it is nullified if they being lord of kendras only go to other > > > kendras, atleast that is my understanding. Otherwise guru and budha > > > will become malefics for their own lagnas. That seems not quite > > > feasible. I can understand budh geting this dosh for lagnas of guru > > > and vice versa. But then it will depend on who they associate with > > to > > > get a picture of their functional nature. Here budh is with ravi > > the > > > 9th lord, he is exalted so budh won't be malefic. guru being lagna > > > lord is NOT malefic. > > > > > > I do not know why this native had bad time for the entire guru > > > mahadasha. Lets say we dont know if there is any overriding > > > combination in this chart to give such results, but lets not call > > guru > > > a malefic for dhanu lagna. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:58:51 -0800 (PST), Suresh Babu.A.G > > > <sureshbabuag> wrote: > > > > Namasthe > > > > > > > > We follow a different method of analysis than in > > > > Northern India. > > > > > > > > Acordingly :- > > > > You Lagna is Sagitarious ( Noon Time). > > > > Jupiter : Lagnadhipathy - A natural Benefic and being > > > > Lagnadhipathy, its dasa should be good. > > > > But > > > > Jupiter is also 4th house Lord - Lord of two kendras. > > > > (1) Kendradhipathya dosha of jupiter is the severest > > > > amoung the natural benefics. > > > > (2) Jupiter is combusted (Moudhya) > > > > (3) the most inportant aspect i anybodys life is the > > > > Bhagyasthana - 9th house. It is having Ketu along with > > > > Venus. > > > > Venus - 6th + 11 th house lord , Sathru of the > > > > Bhagyadhipathy(Sun). Ketu is regarded as > > > > Mathamaha(father/grandfather of mother). The > > > > positioning indicates that your bhagya is afflicted > > > > due to sapa from the forefathers of mother. > > > > > > > > Sun in the Kendra of moon + Venus navamsa in the rasi > > > > where sun is placed (its neecharasi) and the fact that > > > > jupiter being the 4th house lord (Mathru Stahana) > > > > confirms it. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is posited along with sun. Hence Jupiter being > > > > your lagnadhipathy is directly affected. > > > > > > > > How can a person survive without Bhagya. ( Anugraha > > > > from the forefathers/guru etc) ?. > > > > > > > > More over Note that saturn is aspecting the moon from > > > > its neecha rasi. This Saturn (Neecha in your > > > > horoscope) is tranversing the 7th onwards from the > > > > begining of jupiter Maha dasa. > > > > > > > > Here also note that the Saturn is the 8th (Arishta) > > > > and 9th lord. (Bhagya sthanadhadhipathy from moon in > > > > Neecha Rasi and aspecting the moon Mathru Karaka). > > > > > > > > I hope this answers your question. > > > > Suresh Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sadashiva15 <sadashiva15> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to > > > > > end. Every > > > > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth > > > > > period for the whole > > > > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of > > > > > the times I had to > > > > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very > > > > > elementry knowelegde of > > > > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my > > > > > chart. I request > > > > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is > > > > > happning to me. > > > > > > > > > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > > > > > Time - 12:25 PM > > > > > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Sadashiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > > > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Friends, While there are various views on KAD, two things that have come out so far about Jup in this chart are: Jup is AK & Jup is combust (i have not cast the chart, yet). One may also check Jup's position in Navamsa & the Shastiamsa ruler plus sayanadhi avastha of Jupiter, which i am sure will confirm to the experience of the native. Is there a charakaraka replacement also? just some thoughts. regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> wrote: > > Dear Punditji, > I am sorry for not being clear about this.. Yes, I have read Shri. > B.V.Raman on Kendrathipathi dosha and he had said that a lagna lord > doesn't have this dosha.. But I have also read other predictions > where it said that benefic just being a lord of kendras is bad.. so > which one to take?.. instead of forming it as a question, I have put > it as a suggestion in my previous post.. sorry about it. also I have > read it in another website where the person with Kanya lagna had a > very good jupiter mahadasa.. but according to Shri B.V.Raman, > Jupiter has kendrathipathi dosha.. can you clear that one for me?... > > Also can you clear one more thing for me, even if lagna lord is > placed badly in any house (like 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th) as long as it > doesn't have any afflictions or aspects, it is going to do good to > that particular house and also to that person in general during its > mahadasa?.. can I say this.. > > > thanks > partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Viswanadham, Please look at the dasamsa deity of Guru the AK. The AK is under the direction of Yama. The astadalapadma given in prasna marga and in VRA by Pt.Sanjay may be seen. The positions of planets in kalachakra represent the negative energies and undesirable directions. The positive energies of planets can be utilised beneficially if the planets are placed as per dig chakra diagram. As per dig chakra the lord of south is Yama and is signified by Mars. Placement of Guru in South under the direction of Yama can lead the jataka into trouble. Guru is not only AK but is also the lord of lagna and AL. He is combust. He is associated with 6th & 11th lord Venus and placed in the badhaka kshetra in Rudramsa. The intention to punish can easily be seen. As per the Narayana dasa he was running the dasa of Aries (between 2nd October 1989 to 2nd October 1997) where Sani is placed. It is a known fact that Sani destroys the significations of planets and Arudha padas placed in 6th from it. Here 6th from Aries is Virgo(10th house) where the lagna lord Guru is placed alongwith Buda and Sun(raja yoga combination). The dasa next to it is that of Pisces where AL is found placed. Pisces is under papa kartari yoga. Pisces dasa came to an end on 3rd October 2003. Makara contains GL. Imporvement and growth in status can be seen and felt as the dasa progresses as Makara is placed in 11th from AL. As per Sudasa Makara dasa became operational from 31st May 2003. The chart promises progress in spiritual field.Worshipping Mata Tripurasundari shall be beneficial. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. vishwanatham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Friends,While there are various views on KAD, two things that have come out so far about Jup in this chart are:Jup is AK & Jup is combust (i have not cast the chart, yet).One may also check Jup's position in Navamsa & the Shastiamsa ruler plus sayanadhi avastha of Jupiter, which i am sure will confirm to the experience of the native.Is there a charakaraka replacement also?just some thoughts.regardsviswanadham--- In vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> wrote:> > Dear Punditji,> I am sorry for not being clear about this.. Yes, I have read Shri. > B.V.Raman on Kendrathipathi dosha and he had said that a lagna lord > doesn't have this dosha.. But I have also read other predictions > where it said that benefic just being a lord of kendras is bad.. so > which one to take?.. instead of forming it as a question, I have put > it as a suggestion in my previous post.. sorry about it. also I have > read it in another website where the person with Kanya lagna had a > very good jupiter mahadasa.. but according to Shri B.V.Raman, > Jupiter has kendrathipathi dosha.. can you clear that one for me?...> > Also can you clear one more thing for me, even if lagna lord is > placed badly in any house (like 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th) as long as it > doesn't have any afflictions or aspects, it is going to do good to > that particular house and also to that person in general during its > mahadasa?.. can I say this.. > > > thanks> parthaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Namasthe The present controversy regarding the Jupiter and its Dasa regarding the Dhanu Lagna triggered due to my mail is totally unfound and solely due to jumping to conclusions without grasping the full content of what was written. My first contention itself was Jupiter is a natural benefic and being Lagnadhipathy its dasa should be good. Then proceeded to state why the dasa shall give bad results. Now as far as the Kendradhipathya Dosha is concerned: Argument 1) Jupiter is having Kendradhipathya Dosha due to its owning two kendras Apavada (Counter Argument) (1) Jupiter is Lagnadhipathy (2) Jupiter is in Kendra The above is like (1)There is dosha, but it is countered – How strong ? There wont be apavada if there is no dosha. The apavada is written only because there is dosha. There are apavadas for benefic aspects (points) also. Hence one can safely say that the dosha is considerably reduced because of Lagnadhipathya of Jupiter and his Kendra position. This does not mean that there is no dosha. Only that its manifestation shall be reduced. It is like one has spilt black paint and to cover it painted white color over it. At some of time the Black paint shall become visible when the white wears off. When a planets gets bad attributes as well as benefic attributes its maha dasa shall bear both good and bad, that is mostly it becomes neutral. In analysis, a total view of the chart is considered apart from the weiteage given in terms of positive and negative aspects (Points) related to the relevant planets/rasi/bhava etc. If my analysis I had given other arguments as to why the dasa may not give the desired/prescribed/expected good results attributed to it as a natural benefic and lagnadhipathya. A few quotes "Jeeve Swasthaanahantha Vadanthy" "Munivaro Drishtirasyaa Prasastha"|| Thathwa Pradepam "Swakshetre sabdhasastraadhikari trivedi" "Bahuputravaan sukhee chirayu: gjaanavaan" "Uche poornaphalani" "Shodasa varshe maharajayoga: Arineechapaanaam kshetre" "Papayootheva neechakarmavaan manaschalathwavaan madhyaayu:" "putraheena: swajanaparithyagee krithagna: garvishta: bahujanadweshee" "vyabhichaaravaan sanchaaravaan papakleshabhoghee" || Brigu Sootram "Sarvamapahaya chinthyam bhagyarksham praninaam visheshena" "Bhagyam vina na janthu: yasmath thad yanathovakshye" || Saravali "Neecharisamstha: papa: bhagye na swoumyasamdrishta:" "durbalamadanam kuryu: vigathakhyathim naram malinam" || Saravali "Ekenapy na drishtam samasthagunavarjitham lagnam" "swagrihaswabhasahitham janayathi khalu kevalam nithyam" || Saravali "Swagrihocha swoumyavarge griha: phalam pushtameva viddhathy" "neechaksharipugrihastho vigathaphalam keertitho munibhi:" || Saravali "Budhadristasthridasaguru: kudumbarasow cha Ni:swatham kuruthe" "somathanayopi sasina nireekshitho handhi sarvadhanam"|| Saravali This verse is not relevant in the contest of the present chart. I have included it only to point out the malefic nature of even sowmya grihas. Note that the word "Hanthi" meaning destroys- one cannot destroy with out its existence in the first place. So it can be assumed there shall be wealth and it will get destroyed. The question then arises is when? It shall be in the Dasa/Antar/Chidra of mercury or its navamsadhipathy or its nakshatra lord or if there is parivarthana , the concerned planets. This verse can be considered an apavada for the aspect (Drishti) of benefic planets. Avastha: "Swochbhavathy chadeeptha: swasthaha: swagrihe suhrithgrihe mudithaha:" "santha: subhavargastha: saktha: sputakiranajalascha" "vikalo raviluptha grihobhibhootho nipeedithaschaivom" "papaganasthascha khalo neeche bheetha: samakhyatha:" || Saravali "Dukhairvyadibhiraribhi: prapeedithe peedithakhyaathu" desathdesam vicharanthi bandhu viyogadi samthaptha" || Saravali "Sthanachyuthir bandhuvirodhitha cha deenasyakhedasya dasavipake" "jeevathyasouw kultsithaheenavrithyaa thyaktho janai: roganipeedasyath"|| Parasara "Swasthanaparibrashta: klishtomalina: prayathiparadesam" "vidwasthabalo vikale ripubala sanchakitha chithascha"|| Saravali "Vaikalyayukthakhedadasaavipake vaikalyamayathi manovikaram" "mithradikanam maranam visheshal sthree puthrayanaambarachorapeedaam" || Parasara Note the difference in the definition of "Vaikaya" by Parasara and Kalaya Varma. While Parasara defines it as a planets along with Malefic or in Malefic Rasi, Kalaya Varma defines it as a combusted planet. The author of Madhaveeya Defines a planet in Sathru Rasi as "Dukhitha" and combusted planet as "Vikala" "Karmasthane sthithayasya lajjithastrishithasthavaa" "kshuditha kshobhitho vapisanarodukhabhajanam"|| Parasara An Interesting Point: regarding Retrograde planets (not related with this chart) "Vakrinasthu mahaveerya: Subha: rajyaprada griha:" "Papa: vyasaninampumsam kurvanthicha vrithadanam" Subha Grihas if retrograde is shall confer wealth, prosperity etc. The Papa Grihas shall give sorrow and shall cause wandering without bearing any fruit. "Ucharasouw vilome cha phalam nanairiheshyathe" "kalasyathibahuthwacha thasmathswochethivakrithe" A planet in exaltation if becomes retrograde looses its power. Argument "Lagnesasya dasa balam bahudhana" Counter/Modification "Bhavadipo balayutho nijagehagamee" "thungatrikonasubhavargathopi poorna:" "jandho phalam khalu karothi yadarineecha" "sthanasthitho asubhaphalam vibalo viseshal" "Putrahanim Pithu: Peeda manasthapo mahan bhavel" "yasman trikonago rihpharandresarkendusooryaja:" "putrapeeda dravyahanisthathrikethwahimsangame" "videshabrahmanam klesho bhayam chaiva pade pade" This verse is notable If 12th or 8th bhadhipathy or sun, Saturn, moon in positioned in the 5th or 9th from a Bhava , The dasa of its Bhavadhipathy shall bring bad effects like danger or death of children, ailments to ones father , mental tensions and sorrow in extremes. Note that Saturn is posited in the 5th from Lagna (that too in its neecha rasi). Hence the dasa of lagna bhavadhipathy (Jupiter) shall bring misfortunes. Apart from this the Griha Chara Phala should definitely be considered while accessing a period. Consider the Saturn's transition during the period, since Saturn is Neecha and positioned In 5th from lagna and 8th from the dasa Lord. I hope I have cleared all doubts. Suresh Bahu vedic astrology, "sadashiva15" <sadashiva15> wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to end. Every > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth period for the whole > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of the times I had to > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very elementry knowelegde of > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my chart. I request > learned members to analyse my chart why this is happning to me. > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > Time - 12:25 PM > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > Regards, > Sadashiva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Dear All, This point seems to have been dragged in different directions unncecessarily. Guru is a Karak for Dhanu lagna and not a puran karak. So one should not expect miracles from it as compared to Sun which is a puran karak.Besides Guru in 2,8 and 10th house in Dhanu lagna is ashub. The KP dosh too is misinterpreted sometimes. As Lagu Parashari says. KP dosh only ceases the planet to operate and give its results, both malefic and benefic ones. So it is obvious that Guru MD shall not do miracles in this case. Of course some periods particularly Sun AD must have been good. Pran Razdan --- sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Namasthe > > The present controversy regarding the Jupiter and its Dasa regarding > the Dhanu Lagna triggered due to my mail is totally unfound and > solely > due to jumping to conclusions without grasping the full content of > what was written. > > My first contention itself was Jupiter is a natural benefic and being > Lagnadhipathy its dasa should be good. Then proceeded to state why > the > dasa shall give bad results. > > Now as far as the Kendradhipathya Dosha is concerned: > Argument > 1) Jupiter is having Kendradhipathya Dosha due to its owning two > kendras > Apavada (Counter Argument) > (1) Jupiter is Lagnadhipathy > (2) Jupiter is in Kendra > > The above is like > (1)There is dosha, but it is countered – How strong ? > > There wont be apavada if there is no dosha. The apavada is written > only because there is dosha. There are apavadas for benefic aspects > (points) also. Hence one can safely say that the dosha is > considerably > reduced because of Lagnadhipathya of Jupiter and his Kendra position. > This does not mean that there is no dosha. Only that its > manifestation > shall be reduced. It is like one has spilt black paint and to cover > it > painted white color over it. At some of time the Black paint shall > become visible when the white wears off. > > When a planets gets bad attributes as well as benefic attributes its > maha dasa shall bear both good and bad, that is mostly it becomes > neutral. > > In analysis, a total view of the chart is considered apart from the > weiteage given in terms of positive and negative aspects (Points) > related to the relevant planets/rasi/bhava etc. > > If my analysis I had given other arguments as to why the dasa may not > give the desired/prescribed/expected good results attributed to it as > a natural benefic and lagnadhipathya. > > > A few quotes > "Jeeve Swasthaanahantha Vadanthy" > "Munivaro Drishtirasyaa Prasastha"|| Thathwa Pradepam > > > "Swakshetre sabdhasastraadhikari trivedi" > "Bahuputravaan sukhee chirayu: gjaanavaan" > "Uche poornaphalani" > "Shodasa varshe maharajayoga: Arineechapaanaam kshetre" > "Papayootheva neechakarmavaan manaschalathwavaan madhyaayu:" > "putraheena: swajanaparithyagee krithagna: garvishta: > bahujanadweshee" > "vyabhichaaravaan sanchaaravaan papakleshabhoghee" || Brigu Sootram > > "Sarvamapahaya chinthyam bhagyarksham praninaam visheshena" > "Bhagyam vina na janthu: yasmath thad yanathovakshye" || Saravali > > "Neecharisamstha: papa: bhagye na swoumyasamdrishta:" > "durbalamadanam kuryu: vigathakhyathim naram malinam" || Saravali > "Ekenapy na drishtam samasthagunavarjitham lagnam" > "swagrihaswabhasahitham janayathi khalu kevalam nithyam" || Saravali > > "Swagrihocha swoumyavarge griha: phalam pushtameva viddhathy" > "neechaksharipugrihastho vigathaphalam keertitho munibhi:" || > Saravali > > > > "Budhadristasthridasaguru: kudumbarasow cha Ni:swatham kuruthe" > "somathanayopi sasina nireekshitho handhi sarvadhanam"|| Saravali > > This verse is not relevant in the contest of the present chart. I > have > included it only to point out the malefic nature of even sowmya > grihas. Note that the word "Hanthi" meaning destroys- one cannot > destroy with out its existence in the first place. So it can be > assumed there shall be wealth and it will get destroyed. The question > then arises is when? > It shall be in the Dasa/Antar/Chidra of mercury or its > navamsadhipathy > or its nakshatra lord or if there is parivarthana , the concerned > planets. This verse can be considered an apavada for the aspect > (Drishti) of benefic planets. > > Avastha: > "Swochbhavathy chadeeptha: swasthaha: swagrihe suhrithgrihe > mudithaha:" > "santha: subhavargastha: saktha: sputakiranajalascha" > "vikalo raviluptha grihobhibhootho nipeedithaschaivom" > "papaganasthascha khalo neeche bheetha: samakhyatha:" || Saravali > > "Dukhairvyadibhiraribhi: prapeedithe peedithakhyaathu" > desathdesam vicharanthi bandhu viyogadi samthaptha" || Saravali > > "Sthanachyuthir bandhuvirodhitha cha deenasyakhedasya dasavipake" > "jeevathyasouw kultsithaheenavrithyaa thyaktho janai: > roganipeedasyath"|| Parasara > > "Swasthanaparibrashta: klishtomalina: prayathiparadesam" > "vidwasthabalo vikale ripubala sanchakitha chithascha"|| Saravali > > "Vaikalyayukthakhedadasaavipake vaikalyamayathi manovikaram" > "mithradikanam maranam visheshal sthree puthrayanaambarachorapeedaam" > || Parasara > > Note the difference in the definition of "Vaikaya" by Parasara and > Kalaya Varma. While Parasara defines it as a planets along with > Malefic or in Malefic Rasi, Kalaya Varma defines it as a combusted > planet. > > The author of Madhaveeya Defines a planet in Sathru Rasi as > "Dukhitha" > and combusted planet as "Vikala" > > "Karmasthane sthithayasya lajjithastrishithasthavaa" > "kshuditha kshobhitho vapisanarodukhabhajanam"|| Parasara > > > > An Interesting Point: regarding Retrograde planets > (not related with this chart) > "Vakrinasthu mahaveerya: Subha: rajyaprada griha:" > "Papa: vyasaninampumsam kurvanthicha vrithadanam" > > Subha Grihas if retrograde is shall confer wealth, prosperity etc. > The > Papa Grihas shall give sorrow and shall cause wandering without > bearing any fruit. > > "Ucharasouw vilome cha phalam nanairiheshyathe" > "kalasyathibahuthwacha thasmathswochethivakrithe" > > A planet in exaltation if becomes retrograde looses its power. > > Argument > "Lagnesasya dasa balam bahudhana" > > Counter/Modification > > "Bhavadipo balayutho nijagehagamee" > "thungatrikonasubhavargathopi poorna:" > "jandho phalam khalu karothi yadarineecha" > "sthanasthitho asubhaphalam vibalo viseshal" > > "Putrahanim Pithu: Peeda manasthapo mahan bhavel" > "yasman trikonago rihpharandresarkendusooryaja:" > "putrapeeda dravyahanisthathrikethwahimsangame" > "videshabrahmanam klesho bhayam chaiva pade pade" > > This verse is notable > If 12th or 8th bhadhipathy or sun, Saturn, moon in positioned in the > 5th or 9th from a Bhava , The dasa of its Bhavadhipathy shall bring > bad effects like danger or death of children, ailments to ones father > , mental tensions and sorrow in extremes. > > Note that Saturn is posited in the 5th from Lagna (that too in its > neecha rasi). Hence the dasa of lagna bhavadhipathy (Jupiter) shall > bring misfortunes. > > Apart from this the Griha Chara Phala should definitely be considered > while accessing a period. Consider the Saturn's transition during the > period, since Saturn is Neecha and positioned In 5th from lagna and > 8th from the dasa Lord. > > I hope I have cleared all doubts. > Suresh Bahu > > > > > vedic astrology, "sadashiva15" > <sadashiva15> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to end. Every > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth period for the > whole > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of the times I had > to > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very elementry knowelegde > of > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my chart. I > request > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is happning to me. > > > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > > Time - 12:25 PM > > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > > === message truncated === All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Hi Sadashiva, Namaste, Guru is combust, in enemies house together with houselord, but more than this, in your chart Chaturasiti Sama Dasha is applicable, according to which you are in the period of Neecha Shani. Best wishes, Sabri. vedic astrology, "sadashiva15" <sadashiva15> wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to end. Every > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth period for the whole > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of the times I had to > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very elementry knowelegde of > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my chart. I request > learned members to analyse my chart why this is happning to me. > > DOB - October 2nd 1969 > Time - 12:25 PM > Place- 82E54, 25N08. > > Regards, > Sadashiva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scmenon Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Jupiter in my view is weak since it has hardly has any cheshta bala. It is combust and more importantly in the nakshatra of the 8th lord Moon. Hence the bad results. regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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