Is Kalachakra dasa a Bhagiratha-Prayathna ?-JHL6. ?!

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Dear Mr.PVN Narasimha Raoji,

Kalachakra dasa is a most difficult dasa system to understand. It is said to be

the most Palitha dasa (describes the true occurrence / events in once life

time). Maharishi Parashar said in his BPHS -ch.46 para 6-11” that some

Maharishis had said it, as a supreme dasa” He explains it from para 53-95 as

Goddess mother Parvathy preached it to him.

In Tamil nadu (Madras state) it is popularly known as Uma Mageswara samvaadha /

Sambhashana Kalachakra dasa.

My village Prohit is of the opinion that the Kala chakr dasa /bukthi calculatons

in JHL6.are seem to be most erratic and I am also of the opinion it is seemly

contradicting Mr. PVR Narasimha Rao’s own deliberations in some seminar in USA

/ help menu lessons contained in his erstwhile ver.5 of JHL (at present the

download of ver.6 had eroded the previous records in ver.5)

During the electoral battle of Mr. Bush /Mr. Kerry, I have seen

Mr.SathyanarayanaGupta had used, the slowly vanishing Kala chakra dasa system

Successfully, in the opinion of my village Prohit,’ it is a renascence to Kala

chakra dasa system, which action of his has to be commended / appreciated.’

My village Prohit had consented to teach me the system, he told me it is also

known as Amsa Rasi dasa. There are 12 Savya dasa cycle named after the 12

Rasis, similarly there are 12 Abhasavya dasa cycle named after 12 Rasis, for

the dasa cycles starting from Mesha, Simha, Dhanus PurnaAyu is 100 years, for

the dasa cycles starting from Rishaba, Kanya, Makara PurnaAyu is 85 years, for

the dasa cycles starting from Mituna, Thula, Makara Puna Ayu is 83 years, for

the dasa cycles starting from Kark, Vrishika, Meena is 86years. He also told

that there are 11 Gati / jumps in total, Out of which one Jalagati is common

for dasa / bukthi, Simha & Thuraga gati for dasas only, Cock, Peacock, Frog

Gati / jumps for bukthi only. He told me that among the Maharishis there are no

difference of opinion in the dasa system approach, the only difference is in the

recognition of number of Gati / jumps. (Refer Jathga

Alangar by Keeranur Natarajan, Veteran Astrologer who lived 55o years ago, his

book in the poetic form, it should be read with its commentary).

As a first step he had instructed me to Write Savya Nakshtra padas from Aries

to Pisces clock-wise (Aswani 1 in Mesha, 2 in Rishaba, 3in Mithuna, 4 in

Kataka……………Kirthika4 in Pisces, similarly from Punarvasu1 to Aslesha4, Hastha1

to Swati 4,Moola 1 to Uttarashada 4,Poorvabhadra 1 to Revathy 4.

When I step into my 2nd session class, I shall keep you posted.

I request Mr.Sathyanarayana Gupta to advise the correctness of the above.

Dhananjayan.Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > wrote:

Dear Mr.PVRji,

Thanks for your kind response to my mail addressed toMr.Chandrashekharji.Since

you are the author of JHL, it would have been proper on my part to address you

direct; however I make it clear that I have no motives behind it.

As regards to your Kala chakr dasa, I have made few print outs from JHL6. With

nakshatras U.Bha 4th quarter, U.Bha 3rd quarter, P.Bha 4th quarter, Makh 1st

quarter. They show paramayush as 88,86,100,85 years respectively; where as my

village Prohit compared them with what is appearing in Vasan thirk panchangam,

the panchangam show the above referred years as 86,83, 86, 86 years, further we

have verified with BPHS Ch. On Kaal chakr sloka 89. (The numbers of years (Purna

Ayu) are, as under. For the Añú in Mesh 100 years, in Vrishabh 85 years, in

Mithun 83 years, in Kark 86 years. The number of years will be the same for

Râúis, situated the 5th and 9th to them.) We found that Vasan panchangam is

only in agreement with BHPS. Vasan panchangam also differs from dega / jeewa

rasis as that of

yours.

My village prohit had opined that the Kala chakr in JHL is a unique dasa system

of its oun and resembles to be naveena / noodhana Kaal chakr dasa system which

he have not so far come accrossed.

I feel the subject is somewhat hard net to crack, on my understanding the dasa

system in due course; I shall revert to you for any further discussions on it.

Dhananjayan.

pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sir,I am the programmer of JHL 6.0

software. What I programmed is Kalachakra dasa as taught by Parasara in "Brihat

Parasara Hora Sastram". Of course, this implementation is based on my limited

understanding.My programming was also based on a text called "Kalachakram"

written by Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya in 1930. That text

gives a discussion on Kalachakra dasa between Shiva and Parvati. It has a lot

of Sanskrit verses and their translation into Telugu by Sriman Raghavacharya.

These verses may be from some Purana or some other classical text, but the

source is not mentioned. This source is much much more detailed than BPHS. I

used this source and BPHS in my understanding of Kalachakra dasa.I sincerely

tried my best to program it correctly. However, I am not completely clear why

it is

called "Kalachakra" dasa by Parasara and what is the link between this dasa and

Kalachakra. So I will not be surprised if it turns out that my understanding is

imperfect.If the village Purohit you mentioned can elaborate, I can try to learn

and correct any errors in my software. Can he kindly elaborate what he means by

"Naveena Kalachakra dasa" and how the ancient system differs from the new one?

>From your words, it sounds like this this gentleman knows something more than I

do. I will be grateful if he can shed further light for the benefit of all.May

Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji,> >

During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made

a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6.

They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To

understand, it is comparatively difficult and

equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further

added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system.>

> Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a

Vijayadasami day gift.> > Regards,> > Dhananjayan. Archives:

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