Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Namaste Sir, > Dear Sri Narasimha,> > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?> > Tatvam-Asi When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such things. You don't need to address me as "Sri". May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. Best wishes, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] 01 July 2004 06:19 Vedic Astrology Group [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha 12.0pt"> font-family:Arial">Namaste Sir, font-family:Arial"> font-family:Arial">> Dear Sri Narasimha, > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > Tatvam-Asi font-family:Arial"> font-family:Arial">When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such things. font-family:Arial"> font-family:Arial">You don't need to address me as "Sri". font-family:Arial"> font-family:Arial">May Jupiter's light shine on us, font-family:Arial">Narasimha 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dear Visti, Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with varnada lagna? May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Narasimha, > > He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is > very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do > your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, > i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out > information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. > > The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only of Varnada > lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > <visti@s...> visti@s... > _____ > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > 01 July 2004 06:19 > Vedic Astrology Group > [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) > Clearification Sri Narasimha > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as > Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking > about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such > things. > > > > You don't need to address me as "Sri". > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12924vuch/M=295196.4901138.6071305.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1088741924/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http :/compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2128215/rand=961205291> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > vedic astrology/ > > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 ::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya:: Dear Visti I am bowled! What does this have to do with the atma? How did you arrive at this conclusion. Should we not be using the colors with mundane matters instead? Like say I have VL in Libra and can use black for the website which is the color of Libra. Varna + da will then mean the color and the da will have all the three meanings for devas asuras and manushya. Lord is another issue and perhaps this has to do with the gunas associated with the sign it is in as lord means a planet and that means personality trait. With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com - "Visti Larsen" <visti <vedic astrology> Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:00 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. Best wishes, Visti Larsen <visti visti _____ Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr] 01 July 2004 06:19 Vedic Astrology Group [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha Namaste Sir, > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > Tatvam-Asi When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such things. You don't need to address me as "Sri". May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha <http://us.ard./SIG=12924vuch/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1088741924/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/compa nion.> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2128215/rand=961205291> _____ * vedic astrology/ * vedic astrology <vedic astrology?subject=Un> * <> Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dear Narasimhaji, Self is Not increasing Vitandavada but you have stated and so is the understanding of Trivedi that, "Based on the language used by Parasara, I strongly felt that signs should be counted and not degrees. " In Varnada chart, The word VARNA+DA ( varna dadati Iti Varnada) is very important. Varna shows where you come from. If totality of a Rasi is taken, it has its own Guna-Dharma. Planets occupying a Rasi derive these traits of Guna Dharma and inturn release their effect accordingly on individuals . If you further sub-divide the word RASI, it denotes a cosmo- electromagnetic force which is RA-Rahu and Shi-Shikhi Ketu (Here we are not talking of Lunar nodes)which is abundant in each rasi having very powerful stars of huge magnitude in proportion and power. In fact cosmic forces which are beyond our comprahension are accumulated in a Rasi. Hence would it not be prudent or logical to count all the significations denoted by a Rasi when we base our judgement based on Rasi? Just as Sri Visti said, Tula which has black colour may denote working to extract something from Tamas using one's intellect using power of Judgement. Mesha with Red colour signifying brute force, anger(Tamas) and violence connected with manufacturing of metals etc. This topic seems to be getting very interesting. Tatvam-Asi -- In vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with > varnada lagna? > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is > placed is > > very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take > on to do > > your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in > ignorance, > > i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to > research, dig out > > information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes > important. > > > > The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only > of Varnada > > lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to > take on. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > > 01 July 2004 06:19 > > Vedic Astrology Group > > [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna > Clarification) > > Clearification Sri Narasimha > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance > of > > > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby > indicating > > > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields > indicated > > > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences > as > > Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he > was talking > > about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any > such > > things. > > > > > > > > You don't need to address me as "Sri". > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12924vuch/M=295196.4901138.6071305.30011 > 76/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1088741924/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http > :/compa > > nion.> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2128215/rand=961205291> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > vedic astrology/ > > > > * > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Dear Visti, Apart from the meaning of varna as in "varnaasrama dharma" (e.g. Brahmana, Kshatriya etc), varna also means color. I never disputed that. I did not ask for a classical reference to show that that meaning is valid. What I asked was a classical reference to show that the color of a sign or planet should be used when judging varnada lagna. When talking about varnada, Jaimini said that the sign involved should be examined. He did not say how. Then he said the planet involved should be examined and there he explained how. He outlined which planets are which varna (i.e. which show Brahmana, which show Kshatriya etc). So, when judging the sign involved, there is no clear guidance. One may suggest using all kinds of parameters like the duality of the sign, triplicity of the sign, quadruplicity of the sign, various significations of the sign etc. But they must all be understood in the context of varna. Color of a sign is just another parameter. If you give more importance to that parameter than others just because varna also means color, I do not agree. I need classical sanction. In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do not agree that one's varna is decided by one's abilities and what varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the sources of income and how much money one makes in various activities, I am afraid we do not have a common ground. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Narasimha, Namaskar > > But Varëa means color? > > Whether you use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of > the signs, is a different issue. > > As for this method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference. > > Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on > only the word; varëa. > > This is what MW says about Varëa > > > > a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward > appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of > the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c. > colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c. > colour = race , species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , > property (applied to persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , > order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal > tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the > Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the four principal classes > described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and > Su1dras ; the more modern word for `" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. > 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical > sound or note (also applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the > order or arrangement of a song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , > glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in > arithm.) the figure , `" one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of > measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards > off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. > saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav. {vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow > "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow. "'] > > > > Best wishes, > Visti Larsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I’ll leave the color issue for now. One point; 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">Your wrote: 10.0pt">In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do not agree that one's varna is decided by one's abilities and what varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the sources of income and how much money one makes in various activities, I am afraid we do not have a common ground. 10.0pt"> Visti: Abilities would be wrong to say – it’s the opportunity. And specifically in the 11th from VL it shows those opportunities you can earn through. That’s why the lord of 11th from VL is connected with ones earnings. When I talked about Guruji’s chart, I was not referring to 11th from VL to see how much money he made, but whether he could earn at all. The opportunity to earn must be there. The Varëada Lagna itself has nothing to do with ones earnings, and shows those opportunities one has to manifest oneself. I have written this in another mail as well. Similarly other houses from VL specifically talk of various opportunities and support, but only 11th from VL shows opportunities to earn through. font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy"> Best wishes, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">pvr108 [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] 01 July 2004 15:23 To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Visti, Apart from the meaning of varna as in "varnaasrama dharma" (e.g. Brahmana, Kshatriya etc), varna also means color. I never disputed that. I did not ask for a classical reference to show that that meaning is valid. What I asked was a classical reference to show that the color of a sign or planet should be used when judging varnada lagna. When talking about varnada, Jaimini said that the sign involved should be examined. He did not say how. Then he said the planet involved should be examined and there he explained how. He outlined which planets are which varna (i.e. which show Brahmana, which show Kshatriya etc). So, when judging the sign involved, there is no clear guidance. One may suggest using all kinds of parameters like the duality of the sign, triplicity of the sign, quadruplicity of the sign, various significations of the sign etc. But they must all be understood in the context of varna. Color of a sign is just another parameter. If you give more importance to that parameter than others just because varna also means color, I do not agree. I need classical sanction. In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do not agree that one's varna is decided by one's abilities and what varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the sources of income and how much money one makes in various activities, I am afraid we do not have a common ground. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Narasimha, Namaskar > > But Varëa means color? > > Whether you use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of > the signs, is a different issue. > > As for this method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference. > > Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on > only the word; varëa. > > This is what MW says about Varëa > > > > a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward > appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of > the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c. > colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c. > colour = race , species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , > property (applied to persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , > order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal > tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the > Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the four principal classes > described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and > Su1dras ; the more modern word for `" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. > 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical > sound or note (also applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the > order or arrangement of a song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , > glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in > arithm.) the figure , `" one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of > measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards > off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. > saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav. {vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow > "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow. "'] > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Dear Visti, Narasimha and friends, If I may interject, does Jaimini or Parashara refers to either colors when talking of varnada, or income for that matter ? Would somebody quote from the classics to prove a point? This would remove any confusion. On a different note, if I may say so, I am of the view that Rasis are to be added for arriving at varnada, as clearly indicated by Parashara. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} ..shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar But Varëa means color? Whether you use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of the signs, is a different issue. As for this method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference. Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on only the word; varëa. This is what MW says about Varëa a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c. colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c. colour = race , species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , property (applied to persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the four principal classes described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and Su1dras ; the more modern word for `" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical sound or note (also applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the order or arrangement of a song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in arithm.) the figure , `" one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav. {vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow. "'] Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org pvr108 [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] 01 July 2004 07:06 To: vedic astrology Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha Dear Visti, Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with varnada lagna? May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Narasimha, > > He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is > very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do > your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, > i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out > information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. > > The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only of Varnada > lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > _____ > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > 01 July 2004 06:19 > Vedic Astrology Group > [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) > Clearification Sri Narasimha > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as > Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking > about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such > things. > > > > You don't need to address me as "Sri". > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Dear Visti, Narasimha and friends, If I may interject, does Jaimini or Parashara refers to either colors when talking of varnada, or income for that matter ? Would somebody quote from the classics to prove a point? This would remove any confusion. On a different note, if I may say so, I am of the view that Rasis are to be added for arriving at varnada, as clearly indicated by Parashara. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} ..shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar But Varëa means color? Whether you use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of the signs, is a different issue. As for this method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference. Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on only the word; varëa. This is what MW says about Varëa a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c. colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c. colour = race , species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , property (applied to persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the four principal classes described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and Su1dras ; the more modern word for `" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical sound or note (also applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the order or arrangement of a song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in arithm.) the figure , `" one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav. {vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow. "'] Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org pvr108 [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] 01 July 2004 07:06 To: vedic astrology Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha Dear Visti, Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with varnada lagna? May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Narasimha, > > He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is > very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do > your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, > i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out > information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. > > The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only of Varnada > lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > _____ > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > 01 July 2004 06:19 > Vedic Astrology Group > [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) > Clearification Sri Narasimha > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as > Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking > about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such > things. > > > > You don't need to address me as "Sri". > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12924vuch/M=295196.4901138.6071305.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1088741924/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http :/compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2128215/rand=961205291> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > vedic astrology/ > > * To from this group, send an email to: > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Attachment: (image/jpeg) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Guruji, Namaskar When did I write about ATMA? Yours, Visti Larsen visti Sanjay Rath [guruji] 01 July 2004 07:22 vedic astrology; Visti Larsen Re: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha ::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya:: Dear Visti I am bowled! What does this have to do with the atma? How did you arrive at this conclusion. Should we not be using the colors with mundane matters instead? Like say I have VL in Libra and can use black for the website which is the color of Libra. Varna + da will then mean the color and the da will have all the three meanings for devas asuras and manushya. Lord is another issue and perhaps this has to do with the gunas associated with the sign it is in as lord means a planet and that means personality trait. With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com - "Visti Larsen" <visti <vedic astrology> Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:00 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Narasimha, He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance, i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important. The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on. Best wishes, Visti Larsen <visti visti _____ Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr] 01 July 2004 06:19 Vedic Astrology Group [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha Namaste Sir, > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ? > > Tatvam-Asi When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such things. You don't need to address me as "Sri". May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha <http://us.ard./SIG=12924vuch/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1088741924/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/compa nion.> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2128215/rand=961205291> _____ * vedic astrology/ * vedic astrology <vedic astrology?subject=Un> * <> Terms of Service. Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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