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Namaste Sir,

 

> Dear Sri Narasimha,> > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate

predominance of > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

indicating > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields

indicated > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?> > Tatvam-Asi

 

When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as Brahmana,

Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking about varnas

of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such things.

 

You don't need to address me as "Sri".

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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Dear

Narasimha,

He is right,

the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is very important,

and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do your work. I.e. Libra

is black in color and represents working in ignorance, i.e. without light. Hence

such people need to learn how to research, dig out information, etc. Similarly

the color of each sign becomes important.

The sign

occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada lagna

and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on.

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font-family:Arial">> Dear Sri Narasimha,

>

> On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of

> VARNA

(Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating

> bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated

> by predominance of Varna

regarding his Ajeevika ?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

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such things.

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Dear Visti,

 

Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with

varnada lagna?

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is

placed is

> very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take

on to do

> your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in

ignorance,

> i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to

research, dig out

> information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes

important.

>

> The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only

of Varnada

> lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to

take on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

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> 01 July 2004 06:19

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> [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna

Clarification)

> Clearification Sri Narasimha

>

>

>

> Namaste Sir,

>

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>

> > Dear Sri Narasimha,

> >

> > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance

of

> > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

indicating

> > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields

indicated

> > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences

as

> Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he

was talking

> about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any

such

> things.

>

>

>

> You don't need to address me as "Sri".

>

>

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> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>

> Narasimha

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::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya::

Dear Visti

I am bowled! What does this have to do with the atma? How did you arrive at

this conclusion. Should we not be using the colors with mundane matters

instead? Like say I have VL in Libra and can use black for the website which

is the color of Libra. Varna + da will then mean the color and the da will

have all the three meanings for devas asuras and manushya.

Lord is another issue and perhaps this has to do with the gunas associated

with the sign it is in as lord means a planet and that means personality

trait.

 

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

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RE: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification)

Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

 

|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is

very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do

your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance,

i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out

information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important.

 

The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada

lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen

<visti visti

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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01 July 2004 06:19

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Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

 

 

Namaste Sir,

 

 

 

> Dear Sri Narasimha,

>

> On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of

> VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating

> bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated

> by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as

Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking

about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such

things.

 

 

 

You don't need to address me as "Sri".

 

 

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

 

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Dear Narasimhaji,

 

Self is Not increasing Vitandavada but you have stated and so is the

understanding of Trivedi that,

 

"Based on the language used by Parasara, I strongly felt that signs

should be counted and not degrees. "

 

In Varnada chart, The word VARNA+DA ( varna dadati Iti Varnada) is

very important.

 

Varna shows where you come from. If totality of a Rasi is taken, it

has its own Guna-Dharma. Planets occupying a Rasi derive these traits

of Guna Dharma and inturn release their effect accordingly on

individuals .

 

If you further sub-divide the word RASI, it denotes a cosmo-

electromagnetic force which is RA-Rahu and Shi-Shikhi Ketu (Here we

are not talking of Lunar nodes)which is abundant in each rasi having

very powerful stars of huge magnitude in proportion and power.

 

In fact cosmic forces which are beyond our comprahension are

accumulated in a Rasi.

 

Hence would it not be prudent or logical to count all the

significations denoted by a Rasi when we base our judgement based on

Rasi?

 

Just as Sri Visti said, Tula which has black colour may denote

working to extract something from Tamas using one's intellect using

power of Judgement. Mesha with Red colour signifying brute force,

anger(Tamas) and violence connected with manufacturing of metals etc.

 

This topic seems to be getting very interesting.

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

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> Dear Visti,

>

> Can you show me classical basis for using colors this way with

> varnada lagna?

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

> >

> > Dear Narasimha,

> >

> > He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is

> placed is

> > very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take

> on to do

> > your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in

> ignorance,

> > i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to

> research, dig out

> > information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes

> important.

> >

> > The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I'm talking only

> of Varnada

> > lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to

> take on.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

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> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...]

> > 01 July 2004 06:19

> > Vedic Astrology Group

> > [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna

> Clarification)

> > Clearification Sri Narasimha

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaste Sir,

> >

> >

> >

> > > Dear Sri Narasimha,

> > >

> > > On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance

> of

> > > VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

> indicating

> > > bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields

> indicated

> > > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> > When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary

influences

> as

> > Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he

> was talking

> > about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any

> such

> > things.

> >

> >

> >

> > You don't need to address me as "Sri".

> >

> >

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> >

> > Narasimha

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Dear Visti,

 

Apart from the meaning of varna as in "varnaasrama dharma" (e.g.

Brahmana, Kshatriya etc), varna also means color. I never disputed

that. I did not ask for a classical reference to show that that

meaning is valid.

 

What I asked was a classical reference to show that the color of a

sign or planet should be used when judging varnada lagna.

 

When talking about varnada, Jaimini said that the sign involved

should be examined. He did not say how. Then he said the planet

involved should be examined and there he explained how. He outlined

which planets are which varna (i.e. which show Brahmana, which show

Kshatriya etc).

 

So, when judging the sign involved, there is no clear guidance. One

may suggest using all kinds of parameters like the duality of the

sign, triplicity of the sign, quadruplicity of the sign, various

significations of the sign etc. But they must all be understood in

the context of varna. Color of a sign is just another parameter. If

you give more importance to that parameter than others just because

varna also means color, I do not agree. I need classical sanction.

 

In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do

not agree that one's varna is decided by one's abilities and what

varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the

sources of income and how much money one makes in various activities,

I am afraid we do not have a common ground.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha, Namaskar

>

> But Varëa means color?

>

> Whether you use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the

colors of

> the signs, is a different issue.

>

> As for this method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific

reference.

>

> Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so

based on

> only the word; varëa.

>

> This is what MW says about Varëa

>

>

>

> a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99

outward

> appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c.

colour of

> the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn.

MBh. &c.

> colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v.

&c.

> colour = race , species , kind , sort , character , nature ,

quality ,

> property (applied to persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men ,

tribe ,

> order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour between the dark

aboriginal

> tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the

A1ryas and the

> Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the four principal classes

> described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas ,

and

> Su1dras ; the more modern word for `" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf.

IW. 210 n.

> 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a

musical

> sound or note (also applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R.

Pan5cat. the

> order or arrangement of a song or poem W. praise , commendation ,

renown ,

> glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an unknown magnitude or

quantity (in

> arithm.) the figure , `" one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a

kind of

> measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious observance L. one who

wards

> off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus

L. n.

> saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav. {vranu8} , `" black "' , `"

a crow

> "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow. "']

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

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Dear Narasimha, Namaskar

I’ll leave the

color issue for now. One point;

10.0pt">

10.0pt">Your wrote:

10.0pt">In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do

not agree that one's varna

is decided by one's abilities and what

varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the

sources of income and how much money one makes in

various activities,

I am afraid we do not have a common ground.

10.0pt">

Visti: Abilities would

be wrong to say – it’s the opportunity. And specifically in the 11th

from VL it shows those opportunities you can earn through. That’s why the

lord of 11th from VL is connected with ones earnings.

 

When I talked about

Guruji’s chart, I was not referring to 11th from VL to see how

much money he made, but whether he could earn at all. The opportunity to earn

must be there.

 

The Varëada Lagna itself

has nothing to do with ones earnings, and shows those opportunities one has to

manifest oneself. I have written this in another mail as well. Similarly other

houses from VL specifically talk of various opportunities and support, but only

11th from VL shows opportunities to earn through.

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10.0pt">Dear Visti,

Apart from the meaning of varna as in "varnaasrama dharma"

(e.g.

Brahmana, Kshatriya etc), varna also means color. I never disputed

that. I did not ask for a classical reference to

show that that

meaning is valid.

What I asked was a classical reference to show

that the color of a

sign or planet should be used when judging varnada

lagna.

When talking about varnada, Jaimini said that the

sign involved

should be examined. He did not say how. Then he

said the planet

involved should be examined and there he explained

how. He outlined

which planets are which varna (i.e. which show Brahmana, which show

Kshatriya etc).

So, when judging the sign involved, there is no

clear guidance. One

may suggest using all kinds of parameters like the

duality of the

sign, triplicity of the sign, quadruplicity of the

sign, various

significations of the sign etc. But they must all

be understood in

the context of varna. Color of a sign is just another

parameter. If

you give more importance to that parameter than

others just because

varna also means color, I do not agree. I need classical

sanction.

In any case, all should be applied in the context

of varna. If

you do

not agree that one's varna

is decided by one's abilities and what

varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the

sources of income and how much money one makes in

various activities,

I am afraid we do not have a common ground.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha, Namaskar

>

> But Varëa means color?

>

> Whether you use the colors of the planets

(for complexion) or the

colors of

> the signs, is a different issue.

>

> As for this method of using the Varëada

lagna, I have no specific

reference.

>

> Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the

colors, and did so

based on

> only the word; varëa.

>

> This is what MW says about Varëa

>

>

>

> a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid

Ya1jn5. iii , 99

outward

> appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape

, colour RV. &c. &c.

colour of

> the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion ,

lustre , beauty Mn.

MBh. &c.

> colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting

or writing) MBh. Ka1v.

&c.

> colour = race , species , kind , sort ,

character , nature ,

quality ,

> property (applied to persons and things) RV.

&c. &c. class of men ,

tribe ,

> order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour

between the dark

aboriginal

> tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV.

esp. applied to the

A1ryas and the

> Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the

four principal classes

> described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans ,

Kshatriyas , Vais3yas ,

and

> Su1dras ; the more modern word for `"

caste "' being ja1ti ; cf.

IW. 210 n.

> 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable ,

word Br. Pra1t. &c. a

musical

> sound or note (also applied to the voice of

animals) MBh. R.

Pan5cat. the

> order or arrangement of a song or poem W.

praise , commendation ,

renown ,

> glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an

unknown magnitude or

quantity (in

> arithm.) the figure , `" one "'

(accord. to some) a co-efficient a

kind of

> measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious

observance L. one who

wards

> off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2

(%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus

L. n.

> saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav.

{vranu8} , `" black "' , `"

a crow

> "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow.

"']

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

 

 

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Dear Visti, Narasimha and friends,

If I may interject, does Jaimini or Parashara refers to either colors

when talking of varnada, or income for that matter ? Would somebody

quote from the classics to prove a point? This would remove any

confusion.

On a different note, if I may say so, I am of the view that Rasis are

to be added for arriving at varnada, as clearly indicated by Parashara.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Dear

Narasimha, Namaskar

But

Varëa

means color?

Whether

you

use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of the

signs, is a

different issue.

As

for this

method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference.

Guruji

spent

some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on only the

word; varëa.

This

is what

MW says about Varëa

 

a

covering ,

cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward appearance ,

exterior

, form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of the face

,

(esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c.

colour ,

tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c.

colour = race

, species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , property

(applied to

persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , order ,

caste

(prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal tribes and

their

fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the Da1sas ;

but more

properly applicable to the four principal classes described in Manu's

code ,

viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and Su1dras ; the more modern

word for

`" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. 1) ib. a letter , sound ,

vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical sound or note

(also

applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the order or

arrangement of a

song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , glory Mr2icch. Kum.

Ra1jat.

(in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in arithm.) the figure , `"

one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of measure L. (cf.

%{-tAla})

gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards off , expeller Sa1y. on

RV. i ,

104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some

, Slav.

{vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow "' Lith. {vA7rnas} ,

`" a crow. "']

 

Best

wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

 

 

 

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Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re:

JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

Dear Visti,

Can you show me classical basis for

using colors

this way with

varnada lagna?

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> He is right, the colors of the sign

in which

the Varëada lagna is

placed is

> very important, and indicates the

quality you

must learn or take

on to do

> your work. I.e. Libra is black in

color and

represents working in

ignorance,

> i.e. without light. Hence such

people need to

learn how to

research, dig out

> information, etc. Similarly the

color of each

sign becomes

important.

>

> The sign occupied lord of Varëada

lagna

(notice I'm talking only

of Varnada

> lagna and not the 11th from it) is

the

quality one must aspire to

take on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

[pvr@c...]

> 01 July 2004 06:19

> Vedic Astrology Group

> [vedic astrology] Re:

JHora and

Varnada Lagna

Clarification)

> Clearification Sri Narasimha

>

>

>

> Namaste Sir,

>

>

>

> > Dear Sri Narasimha,

> >

> > On a second thought, would

Varnada chart

indicate predominance

of

> > VARNA

(Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

indicating

> > bend of mind of a person

/source of

income from such fields

indicated

> > by predominance of Varna regarding

his Ajeevika ?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> When referring to Varnada, Jaimini

classifies

planetary influences

as

> Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and

Sudra. So, in

all likelihood, he

was talking

> about varnas of the varnasrama

dharma only

and not colors or any

such

> things.

>

>

>

> You don't need to address me as

"Sri".

>

>

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>

> Narasimha

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Visti, Narasimha and friends,

If I may interject, does Jaimini or Parashara refers to either colors

when talking of varnada, or income for that matter ? Would somebody

quote from the classics to prove a point? This would remove any

confusion.

On a different note, if I may say so, I am of the view that Rasis are

to be added for arriving at varnada, as clearly indicated by Parashara.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

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|Hare

Räma Kåñëa|

Dear

Narasimha, Namaskar

But

Varëa

means color?

Whether

you

use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of the

signs, is a

different issue.

As

for this

method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference.

Guruji

spent

some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on only the

word; varëa.

This

is what

MW says about Varëa

 

a

covering ,

cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward appearance ,

exterior

, form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of the face

,

(esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c.

colour ,

tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c.

colour = race

, species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , property

(applied to

persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , order ,

caste

(prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal tribes and

their

fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the Da1sas ;

but more

properly applicable to the four principal classes described in Manu's

code ,

viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and Su1dras ; the more modern

word for

`" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. 1) ib. a letter , sound ,

vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical sound or note

(also

applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the order or

arrangement of a

song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , glory Mr2icch. Kum.

Ra1jat.

(in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in arithm.) the figure , `"

one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of measure L. (cf.

%{-tAla})

gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards off , expeller Sa1y. on

RV. i ,

104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some

, Slav.

{vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow "' Lith. {vA7rnas} ,

`" a crow. "']

 

Best

wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

 

 

 

pvr108

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01 July 2004

07:06

To:

vedic astrology

Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re:

JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

Dear Visti,

Can you show me classical basis for

using colors

this way with

varnada lagna?

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> He is right, the colors of the sign

in which

the Varëada lagna is

placed is

> very important, and indicates the

quality you

must learn or take

on to do

> your work. I.e. Libra is black in

color and

represents working in

ignorance,

> i.e. without light. Hence such

people need to

learn how to

research, dig out

> information, etc. Similarly the

color of each

sign becomes

important.

>

> The sign occupied lord of Varëada

lagna

(notice I'm talking only

of Varnada

> lagna and not the 11th from it) is

the

quality one must aspire to

take on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

[pvr@c...]

> 01 July 2004 06:19

> Vedic Astrology Group

> [vedic astrology] Re:

JHora and

Varnada Lagna

Clarification)

> Clearification Sri Narasimha

>

>

>

> Namaste Sir,

>

>

>

> > Dear Sri Narasimha,

> >

> > On a second thought, would

Varnada chart

indicate predominance

of

> > VARNA

(Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

indicating

> > bend of mind of a person

/source of

income from such fields

indicated

> > by predominance of Varna regarding

his Ajeevika ?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> When referring to Varnada, Jaimini

classifies

planetary influences

as

> Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and

Sudra. So, in

all likelihood, he

was talking

> about varnas of the varnasrama

dharma only

and not colors or any

such

> things.

>

>

>

> You don't need to address me as

"Sri".

>

>

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>

> Narasimha

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine

on us

........

>

> || Om

Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sponsor

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Dear Guruji, Namaskar

When did I write about ATMA?

 

Yours,

Visti Larsen

visti

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath [guruji]

01 July 2004 07:22

vedic astrology; Visti Larsen

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification)

Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

 

::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya::

Dear Visti

I am bowled! What does this have to do with the atma? How did you arrive at

this conclusion. Should we not be using the colors with mundane matters

instead? Like say I have VL in Libra and can use black for the website which

is the color of Libra. Varna + da will then mean the color and the da will

have all the three meanings for devas asuras and manushya.

Lord is another issue and perhaps this has to do with the gunas associated

with the sign it is in as lord means a planet and that means personality

trait.

 

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

 

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RE: [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification)

Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

 

|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

He is right, the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is

very important, and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do

your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and represents working in ignorance,

i.e. without light. Hence such people need to learn how to research, dig out

information, etc. Similarly the color of each sign becomes important.

 

The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada

lagna and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen

<visti visti

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr]

01 July 2004 06:19

Vedic Astrology Group

[vedic astrology] Re: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification)

Clearification Sri Narasimha

 

 

 

Namaste Sir,

 

 

 

> Dear Sri Narasimha,

>

> On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of

> VARNA (Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating

> bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated

> by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary influences as

Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he was talking

about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any such

things.

 

 

 

You don't need to address me as "Sri".

 

 

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

 

Narasimha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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