#4: Accurate time of birth -> Important

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Allow me an important comment here that NO ONE have brought up earlier in the

history of this list (if my memory does not fail me!):

 

Last week I took part in a discussion with several practicing doctors in

(Stockholm, Sweden) on the subject of "Time of Birth".

 

There was NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER that the moment of birth is the moment of "self

breezing" as (note this!) the baby's entire supporting system from the mother

cease to function right after birth.

As proof one can see that there is no flow of any liquid through the umbilical

cord right after the baby is out and breezing.

 

Here you all have something to speculate about ....

 

Kind regards

/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/vedic.htm

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Jeyaram

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:42 PM

[vedic astrology] #4: Accurate time of birth

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Jay,

 

This point was discussed on Jagannatha list a couple of times, though

was cross posted by Sanjayji once on this list:)

 

In fact, a few moments after the baby takes first breath (many times

it coincides with the first cry), the flow of life supporting fluids

stop flowing from the mother to the baby, through the umbilical cord.

 

Doctors are also supposed to cut the umbilical cord, after the

pulsations in it completly stop, giving a chance for the last few

drops to flow through.

 

In the times we live in i.e., in Kali Yuga may be the baby has to

announce its arrival - so we take first cry as the time of birth!

(Clamping and cutting of the UC is done, quite regularly).

 

Some babies cause anxiety to their parents by being mum for several

minutes longer than usual, when the cry is induced. The first cry,

first breath & cutting the UC should normally be very close.

 

What do you think?

 

Regards

viswanadham

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> Allow me an important comment here that NO ONE have brought up

earlier in the history of this list (if my memory does not fail me!):

>

> Last week I took part in a discussion with several practicing

doctors in (Stockholm, Sweden) on the subject of "Time of Birth".

>

> There was NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER that the moment of birth is the

moment of "self breezing" as (note this!) the baby's entire

supporting system from the mother cease to function right after

birth.

> As proof one can see that there is no flow of any liquid through

the umbilical cord right after the baby is out and breezing.

>

> Here you all have something to speculate about ....

>

> Kind regards

>

>

> /Jay Weiss

> http://www.alvicomm.com

> http://www.alvicomm.com/vedic.htm

>

> -

> Jeyaram

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:42 PM

> [vedic astrology] #4: Accurate time of birth

>

>

>

>

> Note: forwarded message attached.

[Guest guest]

Dear viswanadham,

 

Thanks for your comments, however I did write "(if my memory does not fail

me!)" <smile>...

 

I am aware that Sanjay hold the moment of cutting the umbilical cord as the

birth time, something that I have difficulty to accept as in many Western

countries the baby is placed on the mother's chest (right after birth) for

some time (at times several minutes) before the umbilical cord is actually

cut.

 

Doctors and delivery personal usually note the time of 1) exit 2) first cry

(which is usually within seconds) as the birth time.

But again I assume that we have very short time frames here, which can be

easily rectifies.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

 

 

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"vishwanatham" <vishwanatham

<vedic astrology>

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:36 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: #4: Accurate time of birth -> Important

 

 

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Jay,

>

> This point was discussed on Jagannatha list a couple of times, though

> was cross posted by Sanjayji once on this list:)

>

> In fact, a few moments after the baby takes first breath (many times

> it coincides with the first cry), the flow of life supporting fluids

> stop flowing from the mother to the baby, through the umbilical cord.

>

> Doctors are also supposed to cut the umbilical cord, after the

> pulsations in it completly stop, giving a chance for the last few

> drops to flow through.

>

> In the times we live in i.e., in Kali Yuga may be the baby has to

> announce its arrival - so we take first cry as the time of birth!

> (Clamping and cutting of the UC is done, quite regularly).

>

> Some babies cause anxiety to their parents by being mum for several

> minutes longer than usual, when the cry is induced. The first cry,

> first breath & cutting the UC should normally be very close.

>

> What do you think?

>

> Regards

> viswanadham

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

>> Allow me an important comment here that NO ONE have brought up

> earlier in the history of this list (if my memory does not fail me!):

>>

>> Last week I took part in a discussion with several practicing

> doctors in (Stockholm, Sweden) on the subject of "Time of Birth".

>>

>> There was NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER that the moment of birth is the

> moment of "self breezing" as (note this!) the baby's entire

> supporting system from the mother cease to function right after

> birth.

>> As proof one can see that there is no flow of any liquid through

> the umbilical cord right after the baby is out and breezing.

>>

>> Here you all have something to speculate about ....

>>

>> Kind regards

>>

>>

>> /Jay Weiss

>> http://www.alvicomm.com

>> http://www.alvicomm.com/vedic.htm

>>

>> -

>> Jeyaram

>> vedic astrology

>> Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:42 PM

>> [vedic astrology] #4: Accurate time of birth

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Note: forwarded message attached.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jay,

I assume you mean breathing. I have always held that position and a lot

of discussion had ,in the past, occurred on what constitutes the moment

of birth. I am glad that the Doctors also feel that to be correct

position (assuming, by breezing you meant breathing).

Chandrashekhar.

J.Weiss wrote:

Allow me an important comment here

that NO ONE have brought up earlier in the history of this list (if my

memory does not fail me!):

 

Last week I took part in a

discussion with several practicing doctors in (Stockholm, Sweden) on

the subject of "Time of Birth".

 

There was NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER that

the moment of birth is the moment of "self breezing" as (note this!)

the baby's entire supporting system from the mother cease to function

right after birth.

As proof one can see that there is

no flow of any liquid through the umbilical cord right after the baby

is out and breezing.

 

Here you all have something

to speculate about ....

 

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

http://www.alvicomm.com

http://www.alvicomm.com/vedic.htm

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Dear Chandrashekhar.Ha, Ha ... yes indeed ... at times my fingers seem to have a

mind of their own when related to the keyboard ... thanks.

Regards/Jay Weiss

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Chandrashekhar

J.Weiss

Cc: vedic astrology ; Jeyaram

Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:24 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] #4: Accurate time of birth -> Important

Dear Jay,I assume you mean breathing. I have always held that position and a lot

of discussion had ,in the past, occurred on what constitutes the moment of

birth. I am glad that the Doctors also feel that to be correct position

(assuming, by breezing you meant breathing).Chandrashekhar.J.Weiss wrote:

Allow me an important comment here that NO ONE have brought up earlier in the

history of this list (if my memory does not fail me!):

 

Last week I took part in a discussion with several practicing doctors in

(Stockholm, Sweden) on the subject of "Time of Birth".

 

There was NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER that the moment of birth is the moment of "self

breezing" as (note this!) the baby's entire supporting system from the mother

cease to function right after birth.

As proof one can see that there is no flow of any liquid through the umbilical

cord right after the baby is out and breezing.

 

Here you all have something to speculate about ....

 

Kind regards

/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/vedic.htm

-

Jeyaram

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:42 PM

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