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Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Viswanatham garu and Vinay ji,

Thanks a lot for sharing that lovely background story! “Anaghaa” means the “The

Sinless One” and this is an attribute of Shuddha Parabrahma, which ofcourse is

equally applicable to his shakti. Here, Anaghaa Devi, being the manifestation

of tri-maataas would represent tremendous combination of Iccha, gynaana, kriya

shaktis. Jambhasura, lacking wisdom (source code?), wouldn’t know how to

harness power of that magnitude and use it with restraint for the right cause.

Anyway, the mere possession of such shakti seemed to have gone to the head of

the asura and caused his ultimate downfall. I think there is a vrata also in

the name of Anaghaa.

Vaiswanatham garu had talked about efforts giving bhagya, which is largely

true, because as guruji had already commented, Venus is the yogakaraka for

saturn’s signs. Then, in the story, when Jambhasura had taken the trouble of

going to the ashram and waging a war against devas, his efforts should have

rightfully resulted in the gain of Maha Lakshmi. Instead he ultimately loses

the war. Why? Simply, because his efforts did not have the backing of dharma

and he was guilty of wrongful use of Parakrama against peaceful folk and of

coveting what was clearly not his. Also, because he was not capable of

judicious and dharmic use of divine power.

During Ksheera Saagara Madhanam, the Asuras were not lazy. Infact they had a

tougher job than Devas. Then, why were they denied a share in the “Amrita”?

Again for the same reason.

In astrology, the 9th house stands for both Dharma and Bhagya, as does the 2nd

house in a more personal / individual sense. Only those efforts which sustain

Dharma or promote Dharma will result in lasting bhagya and not otherwise.

Because, as Vinay ji has very correctly pointed out, the Lakshmi trikona is the

same as the Dharma Trikona. There is no difference.

Today morning when I was praying to Lord Venkateshwara, what suddenly struck me

was the interesting posture of Lord’s hands. The left hand lightly rests on His

left thigh, as “Kati hastam” and the right hand points to His feet in “varada

mudra”! Well, the Merciful Lord could be letting us into a secret! It is not

for nothing that He is known as “Sri Nivasa” (Abode of Lakshmi) and is the

presiding deity of the richest temple in the world ! Sanjayji also opines that

He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana

)…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!

Sri Srinivasa charaNam saraNam prapadye.

Thank you all for a stimulating discussion and do let me know my mistakes.

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

Vinay Patwardhan <patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

 

Namaste Nisha,

 

Before interpreting the meaning of article try to understand the actual incident given in article.

 

This incident happened when Jambhaasur had defeated Deva s and they had been

adviced to ask help from ShriDattatreya. ShriDatta asked Devas to fight with

Asuras and bring them to his Ashrama. When Asuras came there, while fighting

with DEvas, they find Mother Lakshmi in Ashrama ( I think actual words are

"Anaghaa" shakti If Gurus or anyone can explain meaning of Anaghaa I'll be

greatful) and they forcely carry her on their heads. Then ShriDatta ask

Devas(who get defearted) to fight with Asuras again. As Asuras carry her on

their heads they forget all their Mantras and also they have done the greatest

sin of touching Parastri hence loose all their Tapa shakti. And Devas defeated

Asuras and Jambhaasura is also finished, with ease.

 

This is actual incident as per my knowledge and just wait what SJC Gurus will explain.

 

I'll try to give few views as per my understandings and hope every one can read

inbetween the lines ,

 

1)Here Jambha is second name for Lazyness. This is Tamoguna.

Shri Datta is son of Atri Krushi means He's not Satva, Raja, Tamas Guna!!

Carrying Mother Shakti (Lakshmi ) is symbol of Tamoguna again. (And Ven is showing Rajoguna)

Devas are follower of Dharma and representing Satva guna and efforts.

 

2)Again here shows the respect of woman which every one has to keep. Otherwise

anyone will finish like Jambhaa.

 

3)Now see the beauty of our sages , they says 5th and 9th H are Lakshmi Sthanas

and same sthanas are consider for Upasanam and Guru!! (I think learned ones can

share more readings on astroside hence not willing to repeat it)

 

Like way we can explore and may keep on explore but the word of caustion is,

Shri Datta is also known as Digambar and whatever we are trying to explore, are

just the cloths on his body and not He himself!! :-) Hence in Maharashtra we

know one famous phrase ,

"Ek tari Ovi Anubhavavi" Means

Try to realise atleast one Upadesa from any Saint in real!! (Not with just words)

 

Here I've taken liberty to write original inccident and my thoughts and not

willing to enter in any debate.

 

Thanks to Vishwanatham ji and Lakshmiji for their valuable readings.

 

Regards,

Vinay

 

Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:07:00 -0000 "vishwanatham"

<vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com>Re: Fw: mail on Pt S Raths articleHare

Rama KrishnaDear Nisha,i was waiting for an SJC guru to reply to your query to

know what is the subtler meaning of it.My thoughts at more gross level are :1.

Always, worship Laxmi along with narayana2. Narayana represents efforts, while

Laxmi represents bhagya.So, seeking bhagya without efforts is not sustainable,

in the long run.See, how gross are my thoughts!Thanks to Laxmi garu for

explaining the subtler meanings very well.regardsviswanadham--- In

vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:>

> Om Gurave Namah>

> > > Namaste Nisha,> > > > Though I am really unequal to the task of

interpreting Guruji's words, I just want to place before you my understanding

and leave the rest to guruji to correct.> > > > Though Venus signifies

Mahalakshmi, it is Jupiter, who is significator for wealth. It is common to see

in Hindu iconography Lakshmi seated on the left thigh (Sagittarius) of Lord

Vishnu or pressing the feet (pisces)of reclining Vishnu. Here thighs can be

taken to indicate stability and feet indicate "aasraya" or refuge. Guruji

could be referring to the tendency of Asuras to worship material

luxuries/wealth, while at the same time fighting with the Source of this wealth

(Vishnu), because Lakshmi is nothing but the Shakti or manifestation of

Vishnu's sustaining function. Since shakti's nature is primarily to

radiate/spread out,

the aakasa tattwa of Jupiter facilitates an unhindered expansion of this

shakti, and perhaps that is why Gajakesai yoga promises this kind of expanding

power. > > > > Incidentally Taurus, depicted as a Vrishabha, is symbolic of

Dharma and its four-legged stability. This could be the reason for calling the

2nd house as the house of Vishnu. Infact, some pundits say that Lord Krishna's

birth in Vrishabha signifies His descent to stabilize Dharma. Venus's other

sign is that of a balance and what other sign in the zodiac can indicate this

equilibrium better than the peaceful pisces?> > > > This is further reinforced

by the fact that Venus is exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. If we consider

Aries as the Sunrise, this exaltation of Venus would occur around the tranquil

pure moment of Brahma Muhurtam, heralding the birth of Light. Venus

rejoices in Light, that's why Maha Lakshmi is worshipped in "Deepam" and

deepavali is the festival of Lakshmi. That's why during dusk, every one lights

a "diya" and prayers are offered to invite & retain the grace of Lakshmi, both

on the material and spiritual planes. > > > > Hence, the best of Venus is when

the world is lost in the abiding ecstasy that the contemplation of the Highest

brings, and not in mere physical pleasures as the popular opinion goes. That's

why you see exalted Venus as a symbol of purity in the charts of many saints. >

> > > Please excuse the howlers that may have crept in.> > > > Regards,> >

Lakshmi > > > > > > > nisha malik <nisha1970@h...> wrote: > ----- Original

Message ----- nisha malik

> vedic astrology > Cc: > Sent:

Monday, September 27, 2004 7:29 PM> Fw: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

Om Namah Shivaye > > > > Dear List members and respected gurujis,> > Would

someone care to elaborate

on this (an article by Pt Sanjay Rath )> > The deity of Venus is Mahalakshmi and

when the Asura had defeated the Deva's and were running away with Mahalakshmi,

the Deva's went to Dattatreya (Om form of Vishnu) and asked Him to do

something. With His divine sight Dattaguru saw that the Asura were carrying

Lakshmi on their head and started smiling. He asked the Deva not to worry and

told that Lakshmi would return very soon. This happened exactly as Dattatreya

had predicted and the perplexed Deva asked for the reasons.> > Dattatreya

explained that Lakshmi is symbolic of money and those people who have Lakshmi

in their heads are bound to lose Her grace and consequently lose Her. Instead

those who have Lakshmi in their thighs (ninth house-Dharma) will always find

stability in wealth and Lakshmi will be please to be with them.> > Thus, Rahu &

Saturn have Rajyoga due to Venus and Venus becomes a

Yogakaraka for Capricorn and Aquarius. These people are always yearning for

Lakshmi and consequently they may be fortunate to get Her sometimes, but

invariably lose Her. That is why Rahu-Ven or Ven-Rahu, Sat-Ven or Ven-Sat

periods are terrible as Lakshmi is said to LEAVE THE HOUSE. Financial pressures

and misfortune results. The only exceptions are the Lagna of Jupiter (Pisces &

Sagitarius) as they have the sence to use Lakshmi properly and give Her a

respectable place next to Her Lord...see the real life & Jyotish implications.>

> > > Regards> > Nisha Malik> > Archives:

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Dear Lakshmi,

 

Namaste.[sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in

Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!]

 

Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in the latest issue

of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime minister) that Lord

Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha avatar.

 

About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite sometime and

the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my} atmakaraka (Mars)

and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that one of the deities

for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja

day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand

the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I accept)

that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu connection!

 

I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on the spiritual

dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your mails on Vishnu

Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that 'Adios' is

spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few western novels!

 

regards

Hari

 

 

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Laxmi garu,

 

Namasthe. Very well said.

 

i am giving my understanding as follows.

 

The root word for Dhrama is 'dhr' meaning to support/ to sustain. Now

this has moved from Vedas to smritis to the present day laws of the

land, adopted to the day.

 

Who can say that, taking care of one's family is not dharmic.

However, Goddess Laxmi may neither come nor stay with that family.

 

The onlyone who sustains is HE. What we can do is to make efforts

(offcourse within the laws of the land!), which include prayers to

Him.

 

Pt Rath also said that Sudasa will not give its promises, unless

Narayana dasa supports it. When Kendra (Vishnu sthana)lord & Kona

(Laxmi sthana)lord come together, it results in Yoga for prosperity.

 

So, i think efforts have a place in this, hoping that it fits into

His game plan.

 

Thanks for your insights.

 

Regards

viswanadham

 

vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Viswanatham garu and Vinay ji,

>

> Thanks a lot for sharing that lovely background story! "Anaghaa"

means the "The Sinless One" and this is an attribute of Shuddha

Parabrahma, which ofcourse is equally applicable to his shakti. Here,

Anaghaa Devi, being the manifestation of tri-maataas would represent

tremendous combination of Iccha, gynaana, kriya shaktis. Jambhasura,

lacking wisdom (source code?), wouldn't know how to harness power of

that magnitude and use it with restraint for the right cause. Anyway,

the mere possession of such shakti seemed to have gone to the head of

the asura and caused his ultimate downfall. I think there is a vrata

also in the name of Anaghaa.

>

> Vaiswanatham garu had talked about efforts giving bhagya, which is

largely true, because as guruji had already commented, Venus is the

yogakaraka for saturn's signs. Then, in the story, when Jambhasura

had taken the trouble of going to the ashram and waging a war against

devas, his efforts should have rightfully resulted in the gain of

Maha Lakshmi. Instead he ultimately loses the war. Why? Simply,

because his efforts did not have the backing of dharma and he was

guilty of wrongful use of Parakrama against peaceful folk and of

coveting what was clearly not his. Also, because he was not capable

of judicious and dharmic use of divine power.

>

> During Ksheera Saagara Madhanam, the Asuras were not lazy. Infact

they had a tougher job than Devas. Then, why were they denied a share

in the "Amrita"? Again for the same reason.

>

> In astrology, the 9th house stands for both Dharma and Bhagya, as

does the 2nd house in a more personal / individual sense. Only those

efforts which sustain Dharma or promote Dharma will result in lasting

bhagya and not otherwise. Because, as Vinay ji has very correctly

pointed out, the Lakshmi trikona is the same as the Dharma Trikona.

There is no difference.

>

> Today morning when I was praying to Lord Venkateshwara, what

suddenly struck me was the interesting posture of Lord's hands. The

left hand lightly rests on His left thigh, as "Kati hastam" and the

right hand points to His feet in "varada mudra"! Well, the Merciful

Lord could be letting us into a secret! It is not for nothing that He

is known as "Sri Nivasa" (Abode of Lakshmi) and is the presiding

deity of the richest temple in the world ! Sanjayji also opines that

He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri

Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!

>

> Sri Srinivasa charaNam saraNam prapadye.

>

> Thank you all for a stimulating discussion and do let me know my

mistakes.

>

> Regards,

>

> Lakshmi

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||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

 

Namaste Lakshmiji,

 

Thanks for explaining the word "Anaghaa" and 3 shaktis included in. Now Jambha

Sura, who got Jambha astra and make his enemeis sleeply and forget about their

strengths,etc That's why I named it as Tamo Guna. Sourse for this is Datta

Purana / Datta Mahatmya(I may be mistaken the name as I don't have Book right

now) And you are very correct about Anaghaashtami Vrata and this is the Day

when Kartaviryaarjuna got blessed by ShriDatta.

(I think Kaartaviryaarjuna is Avtar of Sudarshana is it correct? I think u may have more info)

 

For rest of the explanation I'm fully agree with you and in simple words this

story tells us about Dharma-Karma(dhipati) yoga. Hence when Upachaya involved

in DKY it's reducing DKY strength. (Astrologically Pls correct me if I'm wrong)

 

Lastly pls don't add ji after my name and keep on exploring your thoughts and info. Thanks.

 

Regards,

Vinay Patwardhan

 

|| Avadhut Chintan ShriGurudev Datta ||

 

 

Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:36:59 -0700 (PDT) lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh >Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths articleOm

Gurave NamahNamaste Viswanatham garu and Vinay ji,Thanks a lot for sharing that

lovely background story! "Anaghaa" means the "The Sinless One" and this is an

attribute of Shuddha Parabrahma, which ofcourse is equally applicable to his

shakti. Here, Anaghaa Devi, being the manifestation of tri-maataas would

represent tremendous combination of Iccha, gynaana, kriya shaktis. Jambhasura,

lacking wisdom (source code?), wouldn't know how to harness power of that

magnitude and use it with restraint for the right cause. Anyway, the mere

possession of such shakti seemed to have gone to the head of the asura and

caused his ultimate downfall. I think there is a vrata also in the name of

Anaghaa. Vaiswanatham garu had talked about efforts giving bhagya, which is

largely true, because as guruji had already commented, Venus is the yogakaraka

for saturn's signs. Then, in the story, when Jambhasura had taken the trouble

of going to the ashram and waging a war against devas, his efforts should have

rightfully resulted in the gain of Maha Lakshmi. Instead he ultimately loses

the war. Why? Simply, because his efforts did not have the backing of dharma

and he was guilty of wrongful use of Parakrama against peaceful folk and of

coveting what was clearly not his. Also, because he was not capable of

judicious and dharmic use of divine power. During Ksheera Saagara Madhanam, the

Asuras were not lazy. Infact they had a tougher job than Devas. Then, why were

they denied a share in the "Amrita"? Again for the same reason. In astrology,

the 9th house stands for both Dharma and Bhagya, as does the 2nd house in a

more personal / individual sense. Only those efforts which sustain Dharma or

promote Dharma will result in lasting bhagya and not otherwise. Because, as

Vinay ji has very correctly pointed out, the Lakshmi trikona is the same as the

Dharma Trikona. There is no difference.Today morning when I was praying to Lord

Venkateshwara, what suddenly struck me was the interesting posture of Lord's

hands. The left hand lightly rests on His left thigh, as "Kati hastam" and the

right hand points to His feet in "varada mudra"! Well, the Merciful Lord could

be letting us into a secret! It is not for nothing that He is known as "Sri

Nivasa" (Abode of Lakshmi) and is the presiding deity of the richest temple in

the world ! Sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in

Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana ).in astro-lingo, Jupiter! Sri Srinivasa

charaNam saraNam prapadye.Thank you all for a stimulating discussion and do let

me know my mistakes. Regards,Lakshmi

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Viswanathamgaru,

What you said about efforts is very true. Our efforts define what we are on

earth and determine what we become after we leave it.

 

Talking about Kendra-kona sambandha reminds me of this little bit. Please pardon

me for this digression. You know, in Sri Chakra, at the center is the Bindu and

surrounding it is the Trikona. While Bindu is Ishwara or the Source, the

Trikona is shakti / prakriti / or expression of the Supreme Being. When

Kalidasa talked about “Jagatah pitarou vande Paarvati Parameshwarou” this is

what he had in mind and this is what the exaltation of Sun in Ashwini tells

us….about brahma-ananda and the beginning of creation…which is continued into

Bharani. That’s why Mars rules blood, menstruation, mother, yoga

(Mars+Ketu=Ashwini), and also passion (Mars+Venus=Bharani) etc. Perhaps,

that’s why Mother is worshipped during Aaswayuja maasa.

 

When the Bindu, which is nothing but a circle with no radius, is stretched to

the sides, it becomes a chaturasra (a square). So, in Sri Chakra, even the last

layer, which is a square, is counted as a bindu/vritta. Now, as you can see, the

world (Shri Chakra) is nothing but the yoga or interaction between the Bindu and

Trikona…. and in jyotish it is no different.

 

Thanks for your time.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

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.. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your

chart.

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Hari,

 

There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known

as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I

think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail

from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana

avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji

could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't

know about it.

 

The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that

the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol.

You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the

influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are supposed

to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence, I

feel that He is more of Trivikrama.

 

It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about

vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is

posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to

last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that

form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who alone can

counter the all pervasive influence of Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in front

of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode.

Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.

 

Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra.

As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra,

thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day during Dassera

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it and I had no

doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give guru dakshina

first.

 

 

vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Namaste.

>

> [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born

in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!]

>

> Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in the

latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime

minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.

>

> About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that

{my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana

nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is

Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a

mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand the

spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this

Rahu connection!

>

> I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on

the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read

your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if

you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read

quite a few western novels!

>

> regards

> Hari

>

>

>

>

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::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday,

October 12, 2004 7:04 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article

.. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your chart.Om

Gurave NamahNamaste Hari,There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which

is also known as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you

search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting

Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath

represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji could have revised his opinion after

more introspection. I wouldn't know about it.The opinion of the poojaris of the

temple is that the vigraha of the lord extends even below the floor of the

sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka can often hear the sound of water near

the Lord's idol. You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as

the influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are supposed to

reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He

is more of Trivikrama.It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar

saying about vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is

posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the

end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for

the signs of saturn), who alone can counter the all pervasive influence of

Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu). Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically

sacrificed in front of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali

episode. Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.Sravana

nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know,

Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on

moola nakshatra day during DasseraRegards,LakshmiP.S: I did know the meaning of

"adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i

have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari

M <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Lakshmi, > >

Namaste.> > [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born

in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are

you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in the latest issue of

Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime minister) that Lord

Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha avatar.> > About Sravana

nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite sometime and the root of

this thinking lies in the observation that {my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are

both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana

nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this

a mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand the spiritual

dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I accept) that {my}

istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu connection! > > I

think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on the spiritual

dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your mails on Vishnu

Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that 'Adios' is

spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few western novels!> >

regards> Hari> > > >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of

nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a

full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not

arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of

your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is

no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the

Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of

the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the

Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined

to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy,

as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly

says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because

of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra.

The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami

(the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I

think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse

of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it.

Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you

have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him,

The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your

corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire

list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday,

October 12, 2004 7:04 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article

.. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your chart.Om

Gurave NamahNamaste Hari,There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which

is also known as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you

search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting

Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath

represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji could have revised his opinion after

more introspection. I wouldn't know about it.The opinion of the poojaris of the

temple is that the vigraha of the lord extends even below the floor of the

sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka can often hear the sound of water near

the Lord's idol. You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as

the influence of the Lord and the

congregation of Gods who are supposed to reside on the Hills is supposed to

extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He is more of Trivikrama.It is said

"Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about vinayaka, who is

represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is posited in Varaha khestra and

the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I

think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who

alone can counter the all pervasive influence of Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in front of Him, so

it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode. Annamayya often refers

to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in his sankeertanas and i am sure

our Telugu friends can vouch for this.Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and

is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know, Goddess

Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola

nakshatra day during DasseraRegards,LakshmiP.S: I did know the meaning of

"adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i

have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari

M <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Lakshmi, > >

Namaste.> > [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born

in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are you

sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in the latest issue of

Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime minister) that Lord

Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha avatar.> > About Sravana

nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite sometime

and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my} atmakaraka

(Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that one of the

deities for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on

Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been

trying to understand the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha

opined (and I accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again

this Rahu connection! > > I think that you have my chart and so I request you

to comment on the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently

read your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if you

knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few

western novels!> > regards> Hari> >

> > > Mail –

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is referred to in several Puranas, of which the most

important are the Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara Purana.

According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on the western

bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form of Venkateswara came to

reside on the southern bank of the Swami Pushkarini.

Sample References:

http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

 

I am sure you’d find many more on the web.

 

Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My inference to

Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on “Tirupati Charitram” or “A History of

Tirupati”(English version), published by the TTD.

 

Love and regards,

LakshmiSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi,"The official version of the story

given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills,

he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped

there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the

sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to

worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha before

worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu

avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial."From

which Purana is this story? I heard your story from Gauranga Das and we

followed your instructions by visiting Sri Varaha's temple first before Sri

Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's temple.When I was in Puri, someone

adviced me that I should have Chandi Path and puja done as my Rahu is

debilitated. I had this done for 2 others and so far, they has been no change

to these people's lives. I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava

equivalent of Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya.From what I gather

here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in Rahu's period.Please clear my

doubts.love, Sweelakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of

nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a

full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not

arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of

your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is

no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the

Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of

the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the

Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined

to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy,

as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly

says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because

of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra.

The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami

(the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I

think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse

of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it.

Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you

have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him,

The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your

corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire

list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday,

October 12, 2004 7:04 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article. Anyway, I'll check more

and revert to you with comments on your chart.Om Gurave NamahNamaste Hari,There

is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known as Varaha

Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and certainly not Lord

Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you search the archives

of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord

Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha

avatar. Perhaps

Guruji could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't know

about it.The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka

can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol. You must also know that

no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the influence of the Lord and the

congregation of Gods who are supposed to reside on the Hills is supposed to

extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He is more of Trivikrama.It is said

"Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about vinayaka, who is

represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is posited in Varaha khestra and

the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I

think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who

alone can counter the all pervasive influence of Kali

(Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu). Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically

sacrificed in front of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali

episode. Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.Sravana

nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know,

Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on

moola nakshatra day during DasseraRegards,LakshmiP.S: I did know the meaning of

"adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i

have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari

M <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye

Namah||> > Dear Lakshmi, > > Namaste.> > [sanjayji also opines that He

represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in

astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also

has written in the latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of

the Prime minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.> > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my}

atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that

one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born

on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been

trying to understand the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha

opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu

connection! > > I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment

on the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your

mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that

'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few western

novels!> > regards> Hari> > >

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Dear Swee (and Lakshmi),

 

Venkatachala Mahatmya is given pretty elaborately in a huge section

entittled "Venkatachala Mahatmya" in the Skanda Purana. This same

volume alos contains the 2000 page section on the Purushottama

Mahatmaya which is about Puri and Lord Jagannath.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is referred to in several Puranas, of

which the most important are the Varaha Purana and the

Bhavishyottara Purana.

>

> According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on

the western bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form

of Venkateswara came to reside on the southern bank of the Swami

Pushkarini.

>

> Sample References:

>

> http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

>

> http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

>

>

>

> I am sure you'd find many more on the web.

>

>

>

> Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My

inference to Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on "Tirupati

Charitram" or "A History of Tirupati"(English version), published by

the TTD.

>

>

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Lakshmi

>

>

> Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote:Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi,

>

> "The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when

Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission

from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While

Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the

sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be

inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one

worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be

fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped

on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial."

>

> From which Purana is this story? I heard your story from Gauranga

Das and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri Varaha's

temple first before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's

temple.

>

> When I was in Puri, someone adviced me that I should have Chandi

Path and puja done as my Rahu is debilitated. I had this done for 2

others and so far, they has been no change to these people's lives.

> I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava equivalent of

Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya.

>

> From what I gather here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is

in Rahu's period.

>

> Please clear my doubts.

>

> love, Swee

>

>

>

> lakshmi ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

>

>

> Namaste Gurudeva,

>

>

>

> I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a

great deal of nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What

more can a sishya ask for than a correction / clarification from

the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a full moon lighting up the sky

on this nearly new moon day!

>

>

>

> Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your

teaching does not arise, because this very thread started with me

trying to explain the import of your words, through my inadequate

intellect. By the way, has the discussion discovered the real

meaning of your words or were we miles off?

>

>

>

> Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills

(next to the Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it

is said that there is no accrual of punya on account of visit to

Balaji temple. I think most of the Telugu people know this, you can

ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of the story given out

by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala

Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already

being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission,

He also expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the

Hills, no one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa

said that unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji,

the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar,

had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

>

>

>

> Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams,

repeatedly says that the "tattwa / nature /intention /specific

power" of the deity must be understood by the study of the vigraha.

Balaji's vigraha is distinctive because of the huge "naamam" that

hides half of His eyes and the entire "aagnya" chakra. The "netra

darsanam" is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the

Lord also sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as

Annamayya, as the legend goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa,

apart from the chakra (agni)and Sankha (jala), that usually adorn

the Vishnu vigrahas.

>

>

>

> And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact,

Rathasaptami (the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day

brahmotsvam of the Lord in Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in

procession on various vahanas throughout the day, from sunrise to

sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I think it is unlikely to

happen.

>

>

>

> I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the

basic impulse of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama

(Anantha=upward movement) negates it. Infact, because of

the "sword" factor, there are quite a few who argue that Balaji

could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as

you have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they

all belong to Him, The Nameless One.

>

>

>

> Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully

wait for your corrections, because that would be great education in

itself, for the entire list.

>

>

>

> Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Lakshmi

>

>

Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote:

> ::Sri Guru::

> Dear Lakshmi

> The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the

period/effects of the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should

propitiate Chandi (for Rahu) and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The

similar dictum "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji

as having te special form of the Varaha Avatar and removing all the

negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha Murty is also

described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

> I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

> However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar

as well and you will get the results.

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Pages: http://srath.com

>

>

>

>

> B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

> Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:04 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article

>

>

>

> . Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your

> chart.

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Hari,

>

> There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also

known

> as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

> certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I

> think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a

mail

> from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents

Vamana

> avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps

Guruji

> could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I

wouldn't

> know about it.

>

> The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of

the

> lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and

that

> the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's

idol.

> You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the

> influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are

supposed

> to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence,

I

> feel that He is more of Trivikrama.

>

> It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying

about

> vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is

> posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to

> last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that

> form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who alone can

> counter the all pervasive influence of Kali

(Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

> Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in

front

> of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode.

> Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet

in

> his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for

this.

>

> Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special

nakshatra.

> As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra,

> thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day during Dassera

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it and I had no

> doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give guru

dakshina

> first.

>

>

> vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari>

wrote:

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar (

born

> in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!]

> >

> > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in

the

> latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the

Prime

> minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

> avatar.

> >

> > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

> sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation

that

> {my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana

> nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra

is

> Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this

a

> mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand

the

> spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I

> accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again

this

> Rahu connection!

> >

> > I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment

on

> the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently

read

> your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder

if

> you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have

read

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Namaste Hari,

Hari: I also would be grateful if you could explain your understanding of the difference between:

Lord Venkateswara

Lord Srinivasa and Padmalakshmi

Lord Varahamurthy

Lakshmi: Meaning of Venkateshwara:

 

I would like to quote Nammalvar before I proceed (ref: Tirupathi charithram &

Tirumala-Tirupathi kshetra mahaatmyam, both published by TTD)

 

“sarva paapaani vem praahuh kata sthadhaahamutchyathe

sarva papa dahoyasmaadvenkataadri rithyabhooth”

 

the meaning is that “vem” indicates all sins, while the word “kata” burns away

those sins, hence because the place has the ability to burn away all sins, the

place is called “venkataadri”. Venkateshwara can mean both the ruler of

venkataadri and also Maheshwara burning away the shad-ripu &sins of the

bhaktas.

 

Some other pundits also say that “vem” is the amrita beeja and “katam” signifies

gold, so the Lord of Venkataachalam can bestow both aishwarya and moksha on the

devotee. I leave it to you to figure out which planet(s) are capable of these

functions.

 

“kritethu Naarasimhobhuthrethaayaam Raghunandanah

dwaapare Vaasudevascha kalou Venkata naayakah

 

here the term Venkata Nayaka can refer to both Adi Varaha Murthy and

Venkateshwara and if you apply the logic of Kalou Chandi Vinaayaka here, I am

sure you’d know which planet signifies whom.

 

Meaning of Srinivasa:

 

I think “Shri” can be defined as “shreeyathe aashriyathe ithi Shri” roughly

meaning that which can sustain and provide refuge is “Sri”. Hence the entire

Universe would comprise Shri, and the One in which the Viswam resides is

Srinivasa.

 

At the time of Pralaya, the world is destroyed and the seeds of the creation are

stored away in the Parabrahma for another cycle of creation after the pralaya.

Hence Srinivasa can also mean The One in whom the world is stored at the time

of destruction. This is called samhaara-kramam or the process of Recall and it

is there even in Sri chakraaradhana.

 

Please note that there is no separate consort of the Lord on Tirumala. She

resides in Him, so Srinivasa, I feel, is the Parabrahma vaachakam. BTW, below

the feet of the Lord there is a shat-kona chakra, comprising of one oordhwa

trikona (male principle-Source) and one adho trikona (female principle-Shakti),

confirming the stupendous power & poorna Parabrahma tattwa of the Lord. This

shat-kona chakra is also symptomatic of the 6 attributes of “Bhagavan”. Perhaps

that’s why Brahmotsavams are performed to the Lord during Dassera, because He is

Mother too.

 

Padmavathi devi, though married to the Lord, leads a separate existence, to be

closer to the children, I guess, like we see in so many homes today. I think

She remained at His feet, while He grew and grew and grew. I think you know

that the entire Tirumala hill segment is a “salagrama”. I also want to tell you

that on Thursday, the Lord is divested of his usual finery and is in austerity

mode (like a brahmachari) and this process is called “sadalimpu” or

loosening…to facilitate further expansion?

Even if you consider Lord Venkateshwara as Kalki avatar, the avatar is depicted

as a warrior riding on a horse or alternatively as a horse faced warrior. Sri

Vishnu as Hayagreeva (horse faced – Ashwini nakshatra-celebrations during

Aswayuja maasa) is Guru swaroopa. Infact, if you consider the last few avataras

of the Lord, just before and during kaliyuga, as Krishna, Vyasa, Buddha, etc, He

comes across as more of a Teacher than a warrior. What we need in Kaliyuga is

Guru, one who can lead us to Light from darkness. Tamasoma jyotirgamaya.

 

Lord Venkateshwara is indeed “That”, which gives the same meaning in English or Sankrit.

 

Venkataadri samam sthaanam brahmaande naasti kinchana

Venkatesa samo devo na bhootho na bhavishyathi

 

Thanks Hari for giving me this great opportunity of thinking of the Lord. May He

bless you. I think I'll stop the thread here.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

P.S: I think I already talked too much in general, and about Sri Varaha, in

particular. I have this tendency to get carried away, despite a strongly

disapproving Saturn in lagna!! Please refer to my other emails and links for

more info on Sri Varaha. I think I answered all your queries by and large.

Hari M <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Lakshmi,

 

I know that my question is too primitive and that is why I am asking you

separately instead of asking Sanjay, for whom apparently, it is all childs

play! It has to do with Sanskrit and the question is: Of the two dictums 'Kaloh

Chandi Vinayaka' and 'Kalou Venkata Nayakasya', why is it that the first one

refers to both Ra & Ke whereas the latter refers to Ra only? Secondly I

understand from Sanjay's email that Varahamurthi is also referred to as Lord

Venkatesvara whereas you insist that this should be Vamana. I am confused!

regards

Hari

lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of

nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a

full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not

arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of

your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is

no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the

Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of

the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the

Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined

to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy,

as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly

says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because

of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra.

The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami

(the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I

think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse

of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it.

Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you

have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him,

The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your

corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire

list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee

 

Try this link.

 

http://www.hinduweb.org/home/dharma_and_philosophy/vvh/vvhstl.html

 

Twelve Puranas including the Brahmanda, Bhavishyottara, Skanda, Garuda, Padma,

Markhandeya, Vamana and Varaha have glorified at length the greatness of the

Supreme Lord at Tirumala. In fact, the Varaha Purana goes to the extent of

saying that in the entire world there is no Divya Desha like Tiruvengadam and

there is no God equal to the Lord in the serpent couch and further adds that

there is no God or wealth or Kula Devatha (family Deity) or Parama Gathi

(Highest goal) equal to Venkatachala. In the same Purana the term VENKATA is

defined as SARVAPAPANI VEM PRAHUHU KATA i.e. "the place which burns up all

sins." In the Vamana Purana, the passage AMRITA AISWARYA SAMATWAT VENKATADRI

ITISMRITAHA, i.e., "Venkatadri is remembered as the place conferring wealth and

immortality." Nammalwar, the most respected Sri Vaishnavite Alvar, in a psalm

beginning with the words VEMKADANGAL, says that

all the debts owed are cleared. In other words the Lord redeems all the sins and

grants security and wellbeing.

 

Venkataadri could be referred to as

 

Krite vrishaadrim vakshyanthi thretaayaamanjanaachalam

Dwaapare seshasailamtu kalou srivenkataachalam

Naamaani yugabhedena sailasyaasya bhavanthi hi

 

So, the names vrishaadri, anjanaachalam, seshasailam and venkataachalam all refer to Venkatadri.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya JagannathaDear Lakshmi,I checked the 2 vols. of Varaha Purana without

avail. So the references must be from Skanda Purana. (Haven't the time to look

them up.love,Sweelakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is referred to in several Puranas, of which the most

important are the Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara Purana.

According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on the western

bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form of Venkateswara came to

reside on the southern bank of the Swami Pushkarini.

Sample References:

http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

 

I am sure you’d find many more on the web.

 

Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My inference to

Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on “Tirupati Charitram” or “A History of

Tirupati”(English version), published by the TTD.

 

Love and regards,

LakshmiSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjayji and

Smt. Lakshmi,"The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when

Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha

murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave

permission, He also expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the

Hills, no one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that

unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be

fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the

Tirumala hills from time immemorial."From which Purana is this story? I heard

your story from Gauranga Das and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri

Varaha's temple first before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's

temple.When I was in Puri,

someone adviced me that I should have Chandi Path and puja done as my Rahu is

debilitated. I had this done for 2 others and so far, they has been no change

to these people's lives. I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava

equivalent of Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya.From what I gather

here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in Rahu's period.Please clear my

doubts.love, Sweelakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of

nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a

full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not

arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of

your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is

no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the

Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of

the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the

Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined

to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy,

as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly

says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because

of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra.

The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami

(the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I

think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse

of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it.

Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you

have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him,

The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your

corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire

list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday,

October 12, 2004 7:04 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article. Anyway, I'll check more

and revert to you with comments on your chart.Om Gurave NamahNamaste Hari,There

is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known as Varaha

Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and certainly not Lord

Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you search the archives

of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord

Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha

avatar. Perhaps

Guruji could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't know

about it.The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka

can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol. You must also know that

no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the influence of the Lord and the

congregation of Gods who are supposed to reside on the Hills is supposed to

extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He is more of Trivikrama.It is said

"Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about vinayaka, who is

represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is posited in Varaha khestra and

the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I

think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who

alone can counter the all pervasive influence of Kali

(Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu). Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically

sacrificed in front of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali

episode. Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.Sravana

nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know,

Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on

moola nakshatra day during DasseraRegards,LakshmiP.S: I did know the meaning of

"adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i

have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari

M <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye

Namah||> > Dear Lakshmi, > > Namaste.> > [sanjayji also opines that He

represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in

astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also

has written in the latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of

the Prime minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.> > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my}

atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that

one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born

on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been

trying to understand the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha

opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu

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on the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your

mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Lakshmi,

I checked the 2 vols. of Varaha Purana without avail. So the references

must be from Skanda Purana. (Haven't the time to look them up.

love,

Swee

lakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is

referred to in several Puranas, of which the most important are the

Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara Purana.

According

to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on the western bank

of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form of Venkateswara came

to reside on the southern bank of the Swami Pushkarini.

Sample

References:

http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

 

I am sure you’d find many more on the

web.

 

Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha

avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My inference to Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on

“Tirupati Charitram” or “A History of Tirupati”(English version),

published by the TTD.

 

Love and regards,

Lakshmi

Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi,

"The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when

Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission

from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri

Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the sentiment that

once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to worship

Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri

Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri

Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills

from time immemorial."

>From which Purana is this story? I heard your story from Gauranga Das

and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri Varaha's temple first

before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's temple.

When I was in Puri, someone adviced me that I should have Chandi Path

and puja done as my Rahu is debilitated. I had this done for 2 others

and so far, they has been no change to these people's lives.

I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava equivalent of Chandi

is and was told that it is Dattatreya.

>From what I gather here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in

Rahu's period.

Please clear my doubts.

love, Swee

lakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to

have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of nostalgia that

it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems

to be a full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of

verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not arise, because

this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of your

words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji,

there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that

there is no accrual of punya on account of visit to

Balaji temple. I think most of the Telugu people know this, you can ask

Narasimha Ji also. The official version of the story given out by TTD

goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he

sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped

there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be

inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that

unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit

would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been

worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha

Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly says that the

“tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha

is distinctive because of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes

and the entire “aagnya” chakra. The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on

Thursdays, when the full power of the Lord is said to be experienced.

Again, it is also known that the Lord also sports a golden

sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend goes),

which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I

think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami (the

birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu

avatar, I think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as

Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse of Kaliyuga and

Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it. Infact,

because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right.

Anyway, as you have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name,

they all belong to Him, The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong

on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your corrections,

because that would be great education in itself, for the entire list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com>

wrote:

::Sri

Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during

the period/effects of the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one

should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu) and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu).

The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji

as having te special form of the Varaha Avatar and removing all the

negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha Murty is also described

in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana and is called

Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the

Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for

every avatar as well and you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B

Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:04 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths

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.. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your

chart.

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Hari,

There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known

as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I

think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail

from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana

avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji

could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't

know about it.

The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that

the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol.

You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the

influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are supposed

to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence, I

feel that He is more of Trivikrama.

It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about

vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is

posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to

last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that

form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who alone can

counter the all pervasive influence of Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in front

of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode.

Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.

Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra.

As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra,

thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day during Dassera

Regards,

Lakshmi

P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it and I had no

doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give guru dakshina

first.

vedic astrology,

Hari M <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Namaste.

>

> [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born

in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!]

>

> Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in

the

latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime

minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.

>

> About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that

{my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana

nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is

Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a

mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand the

spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again

this

Rahu connection!

>

> I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on

the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read

your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if

you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read

quite a few western novels!

>

> regards

> Hari

>

>

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Dear Swee,

 

I already send you a mail on this list regarding the chapter

entittled Venkatachala Mahatmya in the Skanda Purana. A lot of

information on Padmavati is also there.

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> I checked the 2 vols. of Varaha Purana without avail. So the

references

> must be from Skanda Purana. (Haven't the time to look them up.

>

> love,

>

> Swee

>

>

> lakshmi ramesh wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Swee,

> >

> > Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is referred to in several Puranas, of

which

> > the most important are the Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara

Purana.

> >

> > According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on

the

> > western bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form

of

> > Venkateswara came to reside on the southern bank of the Swami

Pushkarini.

> >

> > Sample References:

> >

> > http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

> >

> > http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

> >

> >

> >

> > I am sure you'd find many more on the web.

> >

> >

> >

> > Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha avatar by Sage Parasara himself.

My

> > inference to Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on "Tirupati

Charitram"

> > or "A History of Tirupati"(English version), published by the

TTD.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> > */Swee Chan <swee@c...>/* wrote:

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi,

> >

> > "The official version of the story given out by TTD goes

that when

> > Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought

> > permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped

> > there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also

> > expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the

Hills, no

> > one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa

said that

> > unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the

> > visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu

avatar,

> > had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time

immemorial."

> >

> > From which Purana is this story? I heard your story from

Gauranga

> > Das and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri

Varaha's

> > temple first before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly,

Padmavati's

> > temple.

> >

> > When I was in Puri, someone adviced me that I should have

Chandi

> > Path and puja done as my Rahu is debilitated. I had this

done for

> > 2 others and so far, they has been no change to these

people's lives.

> > I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava equivalent

of

> > Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya.

> >

> > From what I gather here, Chandi puja is offered only when

one is

> > in Rahu's period.

> >

> > Please clear my doubts.

> >

> > love, Swee

> >

> >

> >

> > lakshmi ramesh wrote:

> >

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Namaste Gurudeva,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say

with

> >> a great deal of nostalgia that it seems like old times

again.

> >> What more can a sishya ask for than a correction /

clarification

> >> from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a full moon

lighting up

> >> the sky on this nearly new moon day!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your

> >> teaching does not arise, because this very thread started

with me

> >> trying to explain the import of your words, through my

inadequate

> >> intellect. By the way, has the discussion discovered the

real

> >> meaning of your words or were we miles off?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala

Hills

> >> (next to the Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple

first,

> >> it is said that there is no accrual of punya on account of

visit

> >> to Balaji temple. I think most of the Telugu people know

this,

> >> you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of the

story

> >> given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on

the

> >> Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy,

who was

> >> already being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly

gave

> >> permission, He also expressed the sentiment that once

Srinivasa

> >> stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to worship

Varaha.

> >> Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before

> >> worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri

> >> Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the

Tirumala

> >> hills from time immemorial.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking

> >> pravachanams, repeatedly says that the "tattwa / nature

> >> /intention /specific power" of the deity must be understood

by

> >> the study of the vigraha. Balaji's vigraha is distinctive

> >> because of the huge "naamam" that hides half of His eyes

and the

> >> entire "aagnya" chakra. The "netra darsanam" is allowed

only on

> >> Thursdays, when the full power of the Lord is said to be

> >> experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a

> >> golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as

the

> >> legend goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart

from the

> >> chakra (agni)and Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the

Vishnu

> >> vigrahas.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas.

Infact,

> >> Rathasaptami (the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day

> >> brahmotsvam of the Lord in Tirumala, when the Lord is taken

out

> >> in procession on various vahanas throughout the day, from

sunrise

> >> to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I think it is

unlikely to

> >> happen.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement)

indicates the

> >> basic impulse of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama

> >> (Anantha=upward movement) negates it. Infact, because of

the

> >> "sword" factor, there are quite a few who argue that Balaji

could

> >> be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway,

as

> >> you have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the

name, they

> >> all belong to Him, The Nameless One.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will

gleefully

> >> wait for your corrections, because that would be great

education

> >> in itself, for the entire list.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Lakshmi

> >>

> >>

> >> */Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> _*::Sri Guru::*_

> >> Dear Lakshmi

> >> The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during

the

> >> period/effects of the dark or tamas planets Rahu and

Ketu one

> >> should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu) and Vinayaka or

Ganesha

> >> (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya".

> >> refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of

the

> >> Varaha Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu

during

> >> Kali yuga. This Varaha Murty is also described in the

Puranas

> >> - very specifically in the Skanda Purana and is called

> >> Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

> >> I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the

Puranas.

> >> However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for

every

> >> avatar as well and you will get the results.

> >> Best Wishes

> >> Sanjay Rath

> >> Web Pages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com/>

> >>

> >>

> >> -----------------------

----------------

> >> ** B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:04 AM

> >> *To:* vedic astrology

> >> *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths

article

> >>

> >>

> >> . Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with

comments on

> >> your

> >> chart.

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Namaste Hari,

> >>

> >> There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which

is

> >> also known

> >> as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha

Murthy and

> >> certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me

> >> right, I

> >> think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology

you'd

> >> find a mail

> >> from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara

> >> represents Vamana

> >> avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar.

Perhaps

> >> Guruji

> >> could have revised his opinion after more

introspection. I

> >> wouldn't

> >> know about it.

> >>

> >> The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the

vigraha

> >> of the

> >> lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum

sanctorum

> >> and that

> >> the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the

Lord's

> >> idol.

> >> You must also know that no aircraft can fly above

Tirumala,

> >> as the

> >> influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who

are

> >> supposed

> >> to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much

upwards.

> >> Hence, I

> >> feel that He is more of Trivikrama.

> >>

> >> It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar

> >> saying about

> >> vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since,

the Lord is

> >> posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is

> >> supposed to

> >> last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the

Lord is

> >> that

> >> form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who

alone can

> >> counter the all pervasive influence of Kali

> >> (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

> >> Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically

sacrificed

> >> in front

> >> of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali

> >> episode.

> >> Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and

eulogises His

> >> feet in

> >> his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can

vouch

> >> for this.

> >>

> >> Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very

special

> >> nakshatra.

> >> As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola

> >> nakshatra,

> >> thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day

during

> >> Dassera

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Lakshmi

> >>

> >> P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it

and I

> >> had no

> >> doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give

guru

> >> dakshina

> >> first.

> >>

> >>

> >> vedic astrology, Hari M

> >> <onlyhari> wrote:

> >> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >> >

> >> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >> >

> >> > Namaste.

> >> >

> >> > [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana

Avatar

> >> ( born

> >> in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )...in astro-lingo,

> >> Jupiter!]

> >> >

> >> > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has

> >> written in the

> >> latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in

chart of

> >> the Prime

> >> minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and

therefore

> >> Varaha

> >> avatar.

> >> >

> >> > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on

this for

> >> quite

> >> sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the

> >> observation that

> >> {my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in

Sravana

> >> nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana

> >> nakshatra is

> >> Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja

day. Is

> >> this a

> >> mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to

> >> understand the

> >> spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha

opined

> >> (and I

> >> accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa &

PadmaLakshmi.

> >> Again this

> >> Rahu connection!

> >> >

> >> > I think that you have my chart and so I request you to

> >> comment on

> >> the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have

> >> recently read

> >> your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum

and I

> >> wonder if

> >> you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay

must

> >> have read

> >> quite a few western novels!

> >> >

> >> > regards

> >> > Hari

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

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lakshmi ramesh wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Lakshmi,

At least we concur the following:

During a tamasic dasa, the avatar to be worshipped should be in satvic

form.

In the Varaha Purana, Durga who is KAtayAyanI and MAyA, born with a

seperate body out of the primodial subtle state, come out of the river

to save Indra, Agni, Yma, Nirriti, Varuna.......when they were all

vanquished by the Asuras.

The Devas hailed her as Goddess gayatri. Those who worship her Navami

tithi will accomplish their desires. Navami day is presided by the Sun,

the natural atma. Hence by paying obeisance to the Sun (Gayatri

Namaskar) will naturally strengthen the weakness of a chart. There's

more and I am sure you will elucidate.

What say thou?

love,

Swee

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee

 

Try this link.

 

http://www.hinduweb.org/home/dharma_and_philosophy/vvh/vvhstl.html

 

Twelve Puranas including the

Brahmanda, Bhavishyottara, Skanda, Garuda, Padma, Markhandeya, Vamana

and Varaha have glorified at length the greatness of the Supreme Lord

at Tirumala. In fact, the Varaha Purana goes to the extent of saying

that in the entire world there is no Divya Desha like Tiruvengadam and

there is no God equal to the Lord in the serpent couch and further adds

that there is no God or wealth or Kula Devatha (family Deity) or Parama

Gathi (Highest goal) equal to Venkatachala. In the same Purana the term

VENKATA is defined as SARVAPAPANI VEM PRAHUHU KATA i.e. "the

place which burns up all sins." In the Vamana Purana, the passage AMRITA

AISWARYA SAMATWAT VENKATADRI ITISMRITAHA, i.e., "Venkatadri is

remembered as the place conferring wealth and immortality." Nammalwar,

the most respected Sri Vaishnavite Alvar, in a psalm beginning with the

words VEMKADANGAL, says that all the debts owed are cleared. In

other words the Lord redeems all the sins and grants security and

wellbeing.

 

Venkataadri could be referred to as

 

Krite vrishaadrim vakshyanthi

thretaayaamanjanaachalam

Dwaapare seshasailamtu kalou

srivenkataachalam

Naamaani yugabhedena sailasyaasya

bhavanthi hi

 

So, the names vrishaadri,

anjanaachalam, seshasailam and venkataachalam all refer to Venkatadri.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Lakshmi,

I checked the 2 vols. of Varaha Purana without avail. So the references

must be from Skanda Purana. (Haven't the time to look them up.

love,

Swee

lakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is

referred to in several Puranas, of which the most important are the

Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara Purana.

According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested

Himself on the western bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in

the form of Venkateswara came to reside on the southern bank of the

Swami Pushkarini.

Sample References:

http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

 

I am sure you’d find many more on the

web.

 

Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha

avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My inference to Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on

“Tirupati Charitram” or “A History of Tirupati”(English version),

published by the TTD.

 

Love and regards,

Lakshmi

Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>

wrote:

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi,

"The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when

Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission

from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri

Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the sentiment that

once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to worship

Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri

Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri

Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills

from time immemorial."

>From which Purana is this story? I heard your story from Gauranga Das

and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri Varaha's temple first

before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's temple.

When I was in Puri, someone adviced me that I should have Chandi Path

and puja done as my Rahu is debilitated. I had this done for 2 others

and so far, they has been no change to these people's lives.

I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava equivalent of Chandi

is and was told that it is Dattatreya.

>From what I gather here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in

Rahu's period.

Please clear my doubts.

love, Swee

lakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to

have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of nostalgia that

it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems

to be a full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of

verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not arise, because

this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of your

words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji,

there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that

there is no accrual of punya on account of visit to

Balaji temple. I think most of the Telugu people know this, you can ask

Narasimha Ji also. The official version of the story given out by TTD

goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he

sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped

there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be

inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that

unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit

would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been

worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha

Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly says that the

“tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha

is distinctive because of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes

and the entire “aagnya” chakra. The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on

Thursdays, when the full power of the Lord is said to be experienced.

Again, it is also known that the Lord also sports a

golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra

(agni)and Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu

vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I

think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami (the

birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu

avatar, I think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as

Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse of Kaliyuga and

Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it. Infact,

because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right.

Anyway, as you have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name,

they all belong to Him, The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong

on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your corrections,

because that would be great education in itself, for the entire list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com>

wrote:

::Sri

Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during

the period/effects of the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one

should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu) and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu).

The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji

as having te special form of the Varaha Avatar and removing all the

negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha Murty is also described

in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana and is called

Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the

Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for

every avatar as well and you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:04 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S

Raths article

.. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your

chart.

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Hari,

There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known

as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and

certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I

think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail

from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana

avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji

could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't

know about it.

The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that

the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol.

You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the

influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are supposed

to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence, I

feel that He is more of Trivikrama.

It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about

vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is

posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to

last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that

form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who alone can

counter the all pervasive influence of Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu).

Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in front

of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode.

Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.

Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra.

As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra,

thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day during Dassera

Regards,

Lakshmi

P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it and I had no

doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give guru dakshina

first.

vedic astrology,

Hari M <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Namaste.

>

> [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born

in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!]

>

> Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in

the

latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime

minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.

>

> About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that

{my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana

nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is

Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a

mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand the

spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again

this

Rahu connection!

>

> I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on

the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read

your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if

you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read

quite a few western novels!

>

> regards

> Hari

>

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee,

 

Please excuse my delayed reply. Since it is Navaratri, I usually do not access the internet.

 

I think it is widely known that Narayana is “Rasa Swaroopa. When I said “aapovai

Vishnuh” I meant that Narayana is jala swaroopa and the birth of a lotus (with

Brahma in it) from His navel and of Ganga from His feet attest to this. Infact

the word Narayana itself means one who has Nara or water as “ayana”- as means

of travel.

 

The natural movement of water is downwards. Then perhaps it is not unnatural

that usually it is either Vishnu or Mother who “come down” to protect and

purify the earth. So, in the shat-kona I was talking about, the downward

trikona is as applicable to Narayana as to Narayani. This is confirmed by the

fact that in Astrology both are represented by Moon.

 

Ofcourse, the upward movement is also represented by Vishu as per the saying

“yagnyovai vishnu” here the term “yagnya” implying action, completing the

celectial cycle of action & reaction. Mother is also described as “agni

varnaam”. So saatwik worship is always good. Further

 

Yaa Umaa saa swayam Vishnuh – Rudra hridayopanishad

pum roopa Vishnu vigrahaa – Lalithopakhyanam

vyakta sarvamayo vishnuh stree sangyo loka bhaavanah- Harivamsam

 

(ref: “Ramachandra Prabhoo” by Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma)

 

It is said “agni somatmakm jagat” that is, the tangible world is basically made

up of fire and water. The other two tattwas of vaayu and prithvi tattwas are

derived from these two. In astrology also, Saturn (vaayu tattwa) is the son of

Sun and Mercury (prithvi tattwa) is the son of Moon. Whenever there is an

interaction (or yoga –ruled by Jupiter)between agni and jala tattwas, great

energy is released. Example: the birth of Subrahmanya in krittika. This can be

applied to the concept of Gandanta also.

 

Now, I am going to complicate matters by talking about the charkas, or energy

points in one’s body. If you take the intersection of manipoora (agni) and

swadhistana (jala) chakras, the great energy is released in the shape of

Brahma-anda. If you take the association of Sun and Moon (two eyes) in the

aagnya chakra, the energy is released in the shape of Brahma-jnana and if you

take the sahasraara, where there is no difference between Sun and Moon and both

are One, it is Brahma-ananda.

 

The MahaMaaya is one of the deities ruling the Swaadhisthaana chakra, and this

explains Her rising from the river, and Her inherent purity. For defeating the

Mahishaasura (symbolic of impurity, gross ignorance & depression), purity alone

is not enough. She would need the power of fire & Light to burn away the

avidya, hence the invocation to the Sun. Perhaps, this signifies the practice

of kundlini vidya, the awakening of chaitanya shakti or immense yogic power.

I have a feeling that offering of “arghyam” (water) to Sun & gayatri mantra

japa during the sandhyas also reflect this idea.

 

BTW, I have read in various books, people assigning either Mrigasira or

Poorvashadha nakshatra to Her. Either way, you can see the fire-water

connection.

 

Durga is also supposed to be the specific female version of Sri Rama,

 

“Sankha chakra dhanurbaanaan dhaarayantheem trilochanaam

doorvadala nibhaam vande Durgaam durgati naashineem “

 

I am sure you know the significance of Navami in the chart and life of Sri Rama,

the Sun avatara. The celebration of Vasanta navaratri strengthens this opinion.

Rama was also known to defeat Ravana only after worshipping Sun through “Aditya

Hridayam”. Coincidentally the sage who advised Rama about Aditya Hridayam and

the sage who received & disseminated “Lalitha Sahasranaamam” is one and the

same, Agasthya (the aquarian?)!

 

The eight days from padyami to Ashtami signify the maturing of the embryo. These

8 days also indicate 8 aavaranas of the Sri Chakra and assimilation of the

energies of each aavarana and the respective presiding deities on each day. The

number 9 as I think I already said earlier indicates fullness/ripeness. On 9th

day, the 9th aavarana is that of Bindu (Sun -Shiva), wherein Mother is

worshipped as Tripura Sundari, the Paraa shakti and it is this integrated Power

& Joy of the entire Cosmos that killed Mahishaasura.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

P.S: Statutory warning: My reasoning comes with umpteen loopholes :--))Swee Chan

<swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

lakshmi ramesh wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Lakshmi,At least we concur the

following:During a tamasic dasa, the avatar to be worshipped should be in

satvic form. In the Varaha Purana, Durga who is KAtayAyanI and MAyA, born with

a seperate body out of the primodial subtle state, come out of the river to

save Indra, Agni, Yma, Nirriti, Varuna.......when they were all vanquished by

the Asuras.The Devas hailed her as Goddess gayatri. Those who worship her

Navami tithi will accomplish their desires. Navami day is presided by the Sun,

the natural atma. Hence by paying obeisance to the Sun (Gayatri Namaskar) will

naturally strengthen the weakness of a chart. There's more and I am sure you

will elucidate.What say thou?love,Swee

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee

 

Try this link.

 

http://www.hinduweb.org/home/dharma_and_philosophy/vvh/vvhstl.html

 

Twelve Puranas including the Brahmanda, Bhavishyottara, Skanda, Garuda, Padma,

Markhandeya, Vamana and Varaha have glorified at length the greatness of the

Supreme Lord at Tirumala. In fact, the Varaha Purana goes to the extent of

saying that in the entire world there is no Divya Desha like Tiruvengadam and

there is no God equal to the Lord in the serpent couch and further adds that

there is no God or wealth or Kula Devatha (family Deity) or Parama Gathi

(Highest goal) equal to Venkatachala. In the same Purana the term VENKATA is

defined as SARVAPAPANI VEM PRAHUHU KATA i.e. "the place which burns up all

sins." In the Vamana Purana, the passage AMRITA AISWARYA SAMATWAT VENKATADRI

ITISMRITAHA, i.e., "Venkatadri is remembered as the place conferring wealth and

immortality." Nammalwar, the most respected Sri Vaishnavite Alvar, in a psalm

beginning with the words VEMKADANGAL, says that

all the debts owed are cleared. In other words the Lord redeems all the sins and

grants security and wellbeing.

 

Venkataadri could be referred to as

 

Krite vrishaadrim vakshyanthi thretaayaamanjanaachalam

Dwaapare seshasailamtu kalou srivenkataachalam

Naamaani yugabhedena sailasyaasya bhavanthi hi

 

So, the names vrishaadri, anjanaachalam, seshasailam and venkataachalam all refer to Venkatadri.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Lakshmi,I

checked the 2 vols. of Varaha Purana without avail. So the references must be

from Skanda Purana. (Haven't the time to look them up.love,Sweelakshmi ramesh

wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

Sri Venkatachala Mahatmya is referred to in several Puranas, of which the most

important are the Varaha Purana and the Bhavishyottara Purana.

According to the Varaha Purana, Adi Varaha manifested Himself on the western

bank of the Swami Pushkarini, while Vishnu in the form of Venkateswara came to

reside on the southern bank of the Swami Pushkarini.

Sample References:

http://www.tirumala-tirupati.com/plc_tirumala.php

http://www.tirumala.org/ptv_tm_varaha.htm

 

I am sure you’d find many more on the web.

 

Rahu is assigned to Sri Varaha avatar by Sage Parasara himself. My inference to

Sri Balaji as Sri Vamana is based on “Tirupati Charitram” or “A History of

Tirupati”(English version), published by the TTD.

 

Love and regards,

LakshmiSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjayji and

Smt. Lakshmi,"The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when

Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha

murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave

permission, He also expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the

Hills, no one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that

unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be

fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the

Tirumala hills from time immemorial."From which Purana is this story? I heard

your story from Gauranga Das and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri

Varaha's temple first before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's

temple.When I was in Puri,

someone adviced me that I should have Chandi Path and puja done as my Rahu is

debilitated. I had this done for 2 others and so far, they has been no change

to these people's lives. I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava

equivalent of Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya.From what I gather

here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in Rahu's period.Please clear my

doubts.love, Sweelakshmi ramesh wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of

nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for

than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a

full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day!

 

Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not

arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of

your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion

discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off?

 

Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the

Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is

no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the

Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of

the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the

Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being

worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed

the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined

to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha

before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy,

as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial.

 

 

Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly

says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be

understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because

of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra.

The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the

Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also

sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend

goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and

Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas.

 

And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami

(the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in

Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas

throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I

think it is unlikely to happen.

 

I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse

of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it.

Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that

Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you

have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him,

The Nameless One.

 

Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your

corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire

list.

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::Sri Guru::

Dear Lakshmi

The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of

the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu)

and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata

Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha

Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha

Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana

and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya.

I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas.

However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and

you will get the results.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com

 

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday,

October 12, 2004 7:04 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article. Anyway, I'll check more

and revert to you with comments on your chart.Om Gurave NamahNamaste Hari,There

is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known as Varaha

Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and certainly not Lord

Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you search the archives

of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord

Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha

avatar. Perhaps

Guruji could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't know

about it.The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the

lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka

can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol. You must also know that

no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the influence of the Lord and the

congregation of Gods who are supposed to reside on the Hills is supposed to

extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He is more of Trivikrama.It is said

"Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about vinayaka, who is

represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is posited in Varaha khestra and

the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I

think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who

alone can counter the all pervasive influence of Kali

(Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu). Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically

sacrificed in front of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali

episode. Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in

his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this.Sravana

nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know,

Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on

moola nakshatra day during DasseraRegards,LakshmiP.S: I did know the meaning of

"adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i

have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari

M <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye

Namah||> > Dear Lakshmi, > > Namaste.> > [sanjayji also opines that He

represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in

astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also

has written in the latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of

the Prime minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha

avatar.> > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite

sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my}

atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that

one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born

on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been

trying to understand the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha

opined (and I

accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu

connection! > > I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment

on the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your

mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that

'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few western

novels!> > regards> Hari> > Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

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