Re:Jupiter effects and whats true wisdom

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Namaste Mohammad,

 

"Sukha will be deprived...even after having a son...one may not derive

benefits...or one may have more daughters and few sons..."

Sukha is again a very subjective term. I think the term "putra karaka" also

includes "putrikaa" and today's daughters are no less involved than sons in

ensuring parental happiness. Anyway, shouldn't the lord /planets/aspects of

5th & 9th (5th from 5th) houses and Saptamsa also be studied apart from Jupiter

to assess the above?

 

BTW, I have two naughty, lovable sons and no daughters.

 

Regards,LakshmiMy God is my Guru, He leads my sould from darkness into light, My

Guru is my Guru, he helps me learn and differentiate truth from untruth, My

relatives are my Gurus, they teach me unconditionally, continously,My Friends

are my Gurus, they teach me at every stage of life, in every meeting, My

Neighbours are my Gurus, I learn from them all my life, The strangers are my

Gurus, I may or may never know their names , but I learn so much from them, My

enemies are my Gurus, they teach me by showing me my limitations, by critising

me, So the entire Universe is my Guru, I bow In front of all my Gurus in deep

reverence and humbleness and am grateful for their presence and send them my

love and peace and blessings , contionously, uninhabitedly, and till my soul

exists.

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There are 25 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. RE: Guru chandala

yoga"Deepa Jayram" 2. President Bush heading for 2nd term"anr75" 3.

Re: Wrath of Sarpa Deva/Parentstushankur.saroha (AT) xansa (DOT) com4. Re:Jupiter

effects and whats true wisdomMohammad Edrees 5. Re: President Bush

heading for 2nd term"anr75" 6. Re: #3 Exalted or Strong Jupiter

lakshmi ramesh

7. Re: Re:Jupiter effects and whats true wisdomlakshmi ramesh 8. need your

help"lakshmy s.2k" 9. need your help"lakshmy s.2k" 10. Fawad

Javaid"Fawad" 11. Troubled times"siva123_2002" 12. Puzzle

Vishnu Jandhyala 13. retrograde Saturn ...."vadhris.rm" 14. Request for

Prediction"jeyaram009" 15. Re: #2 What about Rahu as Atmakaraka

Sridhar Govindan 16. Remedial mantra related to child - pls help

"drupadupadhyaya" 17. #4 (repeat) What about Rahu as Atmakaraka"Nitin"

18. Re: #3 Exalted or Strong Jupiterlakshmi ramesh

19. #5 Exalted or Strong Jupiter"Nitin" 20. Dear Nitin, about Rahu as

atmakarakaMohammad Edrees 21. To Nitin: I had already mentioned it

on...Mohammad Edrees 22. Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] FB in bad house

(3,6,8,12)tushankur.saroha (AT) xansa (DOT) com23. Re: DRL QuestionRamadas Rao

24. Upaye of kemdruma YogaMohammad Edrees 25. Bush vs Kerry

"sameer_sawhney"

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1 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:49:08 +0530"Deepa Jayram" RE: Guru

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2 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:53:03 -0000"anr75" President Bush

heading for 2nd term|| Hare Rama Krishna || President Bush heading for 2nd term

because he has state of Florida in his

kitty.http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Bush-likely-to-win-2nd-US-terms/2004/11/03/1099362210827.htmlRegardsAbhijeet

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3 Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:21:26 +0000tushankur.saroha (AT) xansa (DOT) comSubject:

Re: Wrath of Sarpa Deva/ParentsJagannathan jiNamaskarSorry for not attaching

the chart with the

previous mail. Here it is.(See attached file: Tushankur.jhd)While studying the

Topic - 'Wrath of Parents' in 'Badhaka' by Sanjay ji - Ifound that Ar is the

badhaka rasi & there is a connection with Leo, Cancer,Mars (Badhakesh), Rahu &

Sat. Sun is in Sc in Navamsa & Moon is in Sc inrasi. 4th co-lord is in 12th.

All this may indicate displeasure of Mother &Father.Hope I will have your

valuable comments on both the Wraths (Sarpa/Parents)for better understanding of

how 'Badhaka' should be interpreted & how doesit work.with

regardsTushankurkapisthalam jagannathan tushankur.saroha (AT) xansa (DOT) com

academicinterest.?Regards,jagannathan.tushankur.saroha (AT) xansa (DOT) com wrote:Respected

Gurus & Dear List Members,Namaskar.I'm going through Sanjay ji's article -

'Badhaka' on his sitehttp://srath.com.It says - 'Rahu in 4, 6, 7, 8, 10 or 12

houses requires propitiation. IfRahu is connected in any way with Bädhakeça,

these remedial measures arecompulsory.Remedy - 1. Rahu in 6th, 8th, 10th or

Bädhaka House: Sarpa Bali as perprescribed texts.Rahu in movable sign: small

eggs of gold or silver be offered(symbolic of the broken eggs of the snakes)'I

realised that I have Rahu in 6th house (Cap-movable) with exalted Mars.9th

house (Ar) is badhak for Lagna & its lord Mars is badhakesh situatedin6th. 6th

house (Cap) is badhak for 10th house (Ta) & badhakesh Sat is in10th .Shall any

of the learned ones read this situation for me - have a look atthe degree of

Badha &

prescribe remedial actions? I'm also not clear onremedy prescribed by Sanjay ji.

If any one can clarify it for me - I'll begrateful for them. Is going to

Kalahasti is a considerable propitiation?with regardsTushankurWhilst this email

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4 Wed, 3 Nov 2004 02:40:50 -0800 (PST)Mohammad Edrees Subject:

Re:Jupiter effects and whats true wisdomOm Gurave NamahTrue wisdom, it is just

equal to wisdom, but I used the word true to emphasis its impact on all spheres

of life...and beyond life...both materially, socially and all...Sukha will be

deprived...even after having a son...one may not derive benefits...or one may

have more daughters and few sons...RegardsMy God is my Guru, He leads my sould

from darkness into

light, My Guru is my Guru, he helps me learn and differentiate truth from

untruth, My relatives are my Gurus, they teach me unconditionally,

continously,My Friends are my Gurus, they teach me at every stage of life, in

every meeting, My Neighbours are my Gurus, I learn from them all my life, The

strangers are my Gurus, I may or may never know their names , but I learn so

much from them, My enemies are my Gurus, they teach me by showing me my

limitations, by critising me, So the entire Universe is my Guru, I bow In front

of all my Gurus in deep reverence and humbleness and am grateful for their

presence and send them my love and peace and blessings , contionously,

uninhabitedly, and till my soul exists.Do you

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5 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:44:22 -0000"anr75" Re: President Bush

heading for 2nd term|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Looks like its a re-run of 2000, the

state of Ohio is still undecided

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11271867%255E37995,00.htmlbyeAbhijeet---

In vedic astrology, "anr75" wrote:> > || Hare Rama Krishna || >

> President Bush heading for 2nd term because he has state of Florida > in his

kitty.> > http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Bush-likely-to-win-2nd-US->

terms/2004/11/03/1099362210827.html> > > Regards> Abhijeet

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6 Wed, 3 Nov 2004 03:29:51 -0800 (PST)lakshmi ramesh Re: #3

Exalted or Strong JupiterOm Gurave NamahNamaste Nitin,Excellent points:--))

Jupiter in lagna, especially in trines to Sun, certainly counteracts the sarpa

yoga, but can it totally negate the ill effects of three malefics in three

angles? If that were the case, the native would not have suffered repeated

betrayals on home/ relationship/ work fronts. I feel that both the dragnet of

sarpa and protection of Jupiter manifest simultaneously and equally powerfully

in the native’s chart, and like in ksheera saagara mathanam, the native is

constantly exposed to & shaped by his encounters with the haalahalam and the

amritam present in human psyche. Regards,LakshmiNitin wrote:Dear Lakshmi,

Mohammed and others, Allow me to share some of my understanding as

well….Besides considering the placement of any planet in the Rashi,

alsoconsider where it is in the subdivisional chart of fortunes (orbhagya) –

the Navamsa (D-9). When a planet is in a state ofexaltation or debilitation in

the Rashi, a finer picture is acquiredby examining the D-9.(A complete overview

of the charts always helps) Any planet not following the path of the Sun

(natural accepted order),then the pathway is that of the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu). To

understand Jupiter retrograde, understand what are the inherentqualities

described, and how it can play out in our lives. Some,amongst others are:A)

MarriageB) ChildrenC) General happinessRahu and Jupiter are inherently

different in their nature. Where

oneis blessing, the other is reminding of past karma. One is a Priest,the other

is the notorious one having felt deprived of the nectar ofthe Gods (Amrit Ras),

based on Puranic stories.Hence, there will be something unconventional in a

person's chartregarding the above three areas, or something specific of

Jupiter. For example, the person may have had an unusual marriage, or under

oddcircumstances.The person may be trying various methods to conceive. The

person finds happiness in a unique manner.Extending this, one can go to an

interpretation of stating childrenwill be denied. (This need not be, of

course.)I hope some of my observations and logic helps. Lakshmi – the Sarpa

toga you described is naturally broken by Jupiterin the Lagna. Furthremore, the

Sun is very important in Sarpa Yogas.The Priest (Jupiter) welcomes peace and

naturally cannot fight thedeeds of Rahu (the one not following

convention). Hence it is the Sun(established authority) that views the situation

and can aidimmensely…… In the chart you described, Jupiter is welcomed in

theHouse of the King.Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin.|| Namah Shivaaya ||Om

Gurave NamahNamaste Mohammad,I find your posts very interesting. Please continue

the good work. ButI have a small query. Can you define the term "true wisdom" ?

And canyou give me the source /basis of "Exalted or Strong Jupiter bestows two

out of the folowing three goodthings, but deprives of the third or sukha

(happiness from ) the third.They are 1. True Wisdom, 2. Wealth (dhan), 3.

Progeny (santaan)You may get any of the above two, but one will be missing, and

thechoice is made by God and not man (as usual)..."I have a strong Jupiter and

by God's grace I have all the three...atleast I have the wisdom / good sense to

be truly happy with

the worldand with whatever God has given to me. Or I can give the much

betterknown example of Madhuri Dixit.A person may have all the good things in

life, but might still beunhappy. I personally find that a strong Jupiter gives

one the abilityto transcend one's circumstances, and remain happy despite

adverseexperiences. There is this person with a strong Jupiter in lagna,

whodespite a terrible sarpa yoga and quite a few unsavoury incidents inlife,

still finds the incredible stamina to press ahead towards hisgoal with

missionary zeal and I find him very humane with a remarkablesense of humour! so

do a lot of others!Anandamaya kosha comes after vigyaanamaya kosha. Happiness is

a veryelusive quality and one who knows "Ananda" knows All.Ofcourse, what you

say might be perfectly true, based on other conditions.Regards,LakshmiArchives:

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7 Wed, 3 Nov 2004 03:47:09 -0800 (PST)lakshmi ramesh Re:

Re:Jupiter effects and whats true wisdomOm Gurave NamahNamaste Mohammad,"Sukha

will be deprived...even after having a son...one may not derive benefits...or

one may have more daughters and few sons..."Sukha is again a very subjective

term. I think the term "putra karaka" also includes "putrikaa" and today's

daughters are no less involved than sons in ensuring parental happiness.

Anyway, shouldn't the lord /planets/aspects of 5th & 9th (5th from 5th) houses

and Saptamsa also be studied apart from Jupiter to assess the above?BTW, I have

two naughty, lovable sons and no daughters.Regards,LakshmiMy God is my Guru, He

leads

my sould from darkness into light, My Guru is my Guru, he helps me learn and

differentiate truth from untruth, My relatives are my Gurus, they teach me

unconditionally, continously,My Friends are my Gurus, they teach me at every

stage of life, in every meeting, My Neighbours are my Gurus, I learn from them

all my life, The strangers are my Gurus, I may or may never know their names ,

but I learn so much from them, My enemies are my Gurus, they teach me by

showing me my limitations, by critising me, So the entire Universe is my Guru,

I bow In front of all my Gurus in deep reverence and humbleness and am grateful

for their presence and send them my love and peace and blessings , contionously,

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darkness into light, My Guru is my Guru, he helps me learn and differentiate

truth from untruth, My relatives are my Gurus, they teach me unconditionally,

continously,My Friends are my Gurus, they teach me at every stage of life, in

every meeting, My Neighbours are my Gurus, I learn from them all my life, The

strangers are my Gurus, I may or may never know their names , but I learn so

much from them, My enemies are my Gurus, they teach me by showing me my

limitations, by critising me, So the entire Universe is my Guru, I bow In front

of all my Gurus in deep reverence and humbleness and am grateful for their

presence and send them my love and peace and blessings , contionously,

uninhabitedly, and till my soul exists.

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