Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Mike, I think you may be referring to "Advanced Principles Of Prediction" by Gayatri Dev Vasudev. The first chapter talks about what you have mentioned. Its not that badhakesh "theory" is incorrect. Its just that the effect is superceded by other factors most of the time. Its effect is subtle and requires lot of analysis and observation in real life to figure out if its really due to badhakesh or not. Also badhakesh indicates things at a macro level - something very basic about the person and most of the time interpretation on a day to day basis might not make sense. Its more likely that bad transits rather than badhakesh are causing obstructions in your case. 9th lord is almost always auspicious for any chart. Thanks, Raju - mikefranc01 Monday, August 02, 2004 6:47 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Some of the views on Badhak & Badhakesh. I read somewhere that the badhakesh obstruction materializes only if it is the lord of the sign where Gulika is placed or of the 22nd Drekkana. Otherwise this whole theory of badhakesh is not really correct.Presently I am running the bhukti of the 9th lord which is the badhakesh of my ascendant (Aq). Things are hunky-dory and extremely good but once in a while I encounter some obstructions and I don't know whether it is because of the badhakesh bhukti or because of planet transits.Mikevedic astrology, sanjay@s... wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Gaurav and Jyotishas,> Let me give some of my opinions on Badhak.> Baadhak the word literally means to Obstruct(MW: oppressing , > harassing , paining, opposing , hindering, injuring , prejudicing). > From Roots verb baadh:to press , force , drive away , repel , remove.> So what is the Obstructor(Baadhakesh) obstructing from?. I think > Prashna Marga also gives a different set of obstructors. So depending > on your goal the obstructor may be different. > From understanding the word Baadhak we can deduce that the natural > Kaaraka(Producer/Creator) of Baadhak is Saturn for Pain, obstruction > etc and for Oppressing,Repel etc it's Rahu.> If you note for the Kaalapurusha 11th Baahva becomes the baadhak > staana so Saturn Or Rahu becomes Baadhakesh. 11th house is the house > of gains and fruits of all activities to which we are constantly tied > to which causes a return to earth. This is a retrograde phenomenon > and shown by Rahu. Between Saturn and Rahu, Rahu is worse.> The Baadhak house for each lagna indicates where the native's > maximum desire is concentrated. When this gets tied up with Dushtana > lords it give hurdle to fulfilment of all desires.> The giver of freedom from Obstruction is 12th Bhaava, association of > 11th with 12th gives relief. Ketu is natural opposer of Rahu so > Ganesha is Vigneshwara the Lord who wins over all obstacles.> > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > Om Tat Sat> > > --- In vedic astrology, "" <gg_0202> > wrote:> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > Dear Learned Members of the group, > > For a few days i find that many people are busy > > with the "Badhak" and "Badhakesh"Concept.I would like to share my > > views and the resources i have regarding this topic.> > As everybody knows that,for the Movable Rasi,the Badhak > > Rasi is 11th house from it,for Fixed Rasi the Badhak Rasi is 9th > > house from it finally for common Rasi or dual rasi,the Badhak Rasi > > is 7th House from it.> > Now let's analyse this view.As we came to Know that for > > Movable Rasi,11th house is a Badhak house.So it will give > > troubles.But it is accepted by all that any planet in 11th will > give > > good results.However 11th lord is one of the "Tri-Sharaya Pati".So > > the 11th house and 11th Lord can give good results owing to > position > > & relation.> > For Fixed Sign Badhak Rashi is 9th from it.We all know > > that being the Lord of the trines,the results will be good always, > > and it is a yogakaraka too.Moreover in Parasara Hora > Sastra,Maharshi > > Parasar had praised about the 9th Lord and if the excepting the > lord > > of Dusthanas,All planets give good results in this house.In > Parasara > > Hora Sastra,in the Chapter of Vimshottari Dasa,all the Dasas and > > antardasas of Trines has been said to be good.> > Finally,for the dual rasi,the Seventh House is the > > Badhak rasi.Its true that the seventh house is a bit evil as it is > > one of the maraka,but seventh house is one of kendras and any > > planet in kendras give good results and in Parasara Hora Sastra,the > > dasas & antardasas of planets posted in kendras has been said to be > > good.> > To prove my views,let me take a simple example of the > > Chart of Ravindranath Tagore.Tagore was Born in Meen lagnam,and the > > lagnam being a dual rasi,his Badhak Rasi was 7th from Lagna,thus > > Kanya was his Badhak Rasi and Lord of Badhak being Budha> > (Mercury).The Badhakesh being posted in the 2nd House,with Sun & > > Venus.He was born in the Mercury Mahadasa too ,the Bhogyakaal being > > 12 years,3 months & 8days.One interesting to say that he wrote > > literature during the Mercury Mahadasa.Throughout His life Mercury > > Antar Dasa was favorable for him.let's Take the last two Antar > dasas > > of Tagore.In the Moon MD-Mercury AD he wrote the "Gitanjali" in > > english,which awarded him with the noble prize.> > In the Mars MD -Mercury AD,to collect money for > > Biswabharati and Shanti-Niketana,he left the country and went > > abroad,wrote many books and felicitated by many countries and > > statesmen where he went.> > So we can see that the Mercury dasas weren't bad for > > him.So there are many fears regarding Badhak and Badhakesh which > > panics peope,as it has nothing to do with "Phalita Jyotish".> > Thanking You,> > ||May the Blessings of Shree Ramakrishna Always Protect Us||> > ||Jai Jagannatha||> > ||Om Shanti!Om Shanti!!Om Shanti!!!Hari Om Tat Sat!!!||> > ||Shree Ramakrishnaarpanamastu||> > ,Vedic Astrologer.> > Horoscope Analyst and Vimshottari Dasa Specialist.> > Kolkata,West Bengal,India.> > astrogauravArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 By the way, there is an interesting inter-relationship among badhak sthanas for various lagnas. By nature there are three types of sings i.e. Cardinal, Fixed and Dual. While 11th house is assumed one of the possible maraka and giver of maleficent. Now for first type of signs i.e. Cardinals (Ar, Cn, Li, Cp) 11th house become badhaka (obstructor). Now count 11th from 11th which become 9th house, that arises as badhaka sthana for second type of sings (Ta, Le, Sc, Aq). Now count from 11th from last 9th which become 7th, that is the badhaka for third type of sings i.e. dual (Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi). Therefore it can be inferred that badhaka's obstructing effect is subject to quadruplicity of the related signs. That is for cardinal sing lagnas all the "fix natured matters of the 11th house" may cause problem. For fixed sigs lagnas all the "moveable natured matters of the 9th house" may harm and similarly for dual signs lagnas all the "dual natured matters of the 7th house" may lead to barriers. Regards M.Imran mikefranc01 <mtravass (AT) terra (DOT) com.pe> wrote: I read somewhere that the badhakesh obstruction materializes only if it is the lord of the sign where Gulika is placed or of the 22nd Drekkana. Otherwise this whole theory of badhakesh is not really correct.Presently I am running the bhukti of the 9th lord which is the badhakesh of my ascendant (Aq). Things are hunky-dory and extremely good but once in a while I encounter some obstructions and I don't know whether it is because of the badhakesh bhukti or because of planet transits.Mikevedic astrology, sanjay@s... wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Gaurav and Jyotishas,> Let me give some of my opinions on Badhak.> Baadhak the word literally means to Obstruct(MW: oppressing , > harassing , paining, opposing , hindering, injuring , prejudicing). > From Roots verb baadh:to press , force , drive away , repel , remove.> So what is the Obstructor(Baadhakesh) obstructing from?. I think > Prashna Marga also gives a different set of obstructors. So depending > on your goal the obstructor may be different. > From understanding the word Baadhak we can deduce that the natural > Kaaraka(Producer/Creator) of Baadhak is Saturn for Pain, obstruction > etc and for Oppressing,Repel etc it's Rahu.> If you note for the Kaalapurusha 11th Baahva becomes the baadhak > staana so Saturn Or Rahu becomes Baadhakesh. 11th house is the house > of gains and fruits of all activities to which we are constantly tied > to which causes a return to earth. This is a retrograde phenomenon > and shown by Rahu. Between Saturn and Rahu, Rahu is worse.> The Baadhak house for each lagna indicates where the native's > maximum desire is concentrated. When this gets tied up with Dushtana > lords it give hurdle to fulfilment of all desires.> The giver of freedom from Obstruction is 12th Bhaava, association of > 11th with 12th gives relief. Ketu is natural opposer of Rahu so > Ganesha is Vigneshwara the Lord who wins over all obstacles.> > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > Om Tat Sat> > > --- In vedic astrology, "" <gg_0202> > wrote:> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > Dear Learned Members of the group, > > For a few days i find that many people are busy > > with the "Badhak" and "Badhakesh"Concept.I would like to share my > > views and the resources i have regarding this topic.> > As everybody knows that,for the Movable Rasi,the Badhak > > Rasi is 11th house from it,for Fixed Rasi the Badhak Rasi is 9th > > house from it finally for common Rasi or dual rasi,the Badhak Rasi > > is 7th House from it.> > Now let's analyse this view.As we came to Know that for > > Movable Rasi,11th house is a Badhak house.So it will give > > troubles.But it is accepted by all that any planet in 11th will > give > > good results.However 11th lord is one of the "Tri-Sharaya Pati".So > > the 11th house and 11th Lord can give good results owing to > position > > & relation.> > For Fixed Sign Badhak Rashi is 9th from it.We all know > > that being the Lord of the trines,the results will be good always, > > and it is a yogakaraka too.Moreover in Parasara Hora > Sastra,Maharshi > > Parasar had praised about the 9th Lord and if the excepting the > lord > > of Dusthanas,All planets give good results in this house.In > Parasara > > Hora Sastra,in the Chapter of Vimshottari Dasa,all the Dasas and > > antardasas of Trines has been said to be good.> > Finally,for the dual rasi,the Seventh House is the > > Badhak rasi.Its true that the seventh house is a bit evil as it is > > one of the maraka,but seventh house is one of kendras and any > > planet in kendras give good results and in Parasara Hora Sastra,the > > dasas & antardasas of planets posted in kendras has been said to be > > good.> > To prove my views,let me take a simple example of the > > Chart of Ravindranath Tagore.Tagore was Born in Meen lagnam,and the > > lagnam being a dual rasi,his Badhak Rasi was 7th from Lagna,thus > > Kanya was his Badhak Rasi and Lord of Badhak being Budha> > (Mercury).The Badhakesh being posted in the 2nd House,with Sun & > > Venus.He was born in the Mercury Mahadasa too ,the Bhogyakaal being > > 12 years,3 months & 8days.One interesting to say that he wrote > > literature during the Mercury Mahadasa.Throughout His life Mercury > > Antar Dasa was favorable for him.let's Take the last two Antar > dasas > > of Tagore.In the Moon MD-Mercury AD he wrote the "Gitanjali" in > > english,which awarded him with the noble prize.> > In the Mars MD -Mercury AD,to collect money for > > Biswabharati and Shanti-Niketana,he left the country and went > > abroad,wrote many books and felicitated by many countries and > > statesmen where he went.> > So we can see that the Mercury dasas weren't bad for > > him.So there are many fears regarding Badhak and Badhakesh which > > panics peope,as it has nothing to do with "Phalita Jyotish".> > Thanking You,> > ||May the Blessings of Shree Ramakrishna Always Protect Us||> > ||Jai Jagannatha||> > ||Om Shanti!Om Shanti!!Om Shanti!!!Hari Om Tat Sat!!!||> > ||Shree Ramakrishnaarpanamastu||> > ,Vedic Astrologer.> > Horoscope Analyst and Vimshottari Dasa Specialist.> > Kolkata,West Bengal,India.> > astrogauravArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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