Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Dear friends/Gurus, There are many tools used in astrology to foretell the past events and future. Every astrologer has his favourite and swears by it. This is as things should be. Many puzzles are posted on the list in this regards.Varied logic and methods are used to find out the event. Many a times new logic is used to justify an event after the event becomes known. Some astrologers deride others if they are not able to pinpoint the exact event. Here is one from me. The intention is just to show that it is very difficult to pinpoint an event, and there is no reason to deride anyone or think that he lacks knowledge.Here is a chain of events which should make the job easy. _ 1) Something happened to me day before yesterday i.e.on 29th April 2004 at about 13.20 hr.s 2) Again something else happened today i.e. on 1st of May 2004 at 14.12 hrs. at Nagpur. _ You may use any Astrological method that you like. The method used and steps to arrive at the conclusion may also be given. My chart is on SJC website, if someone does not have it with him. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Dear Pradeep, Usually he would behave as 6th lord in first half of his dasha and 11th Lord in second half of his Dasha. The same applies to Antar and Pratyantar. Transit house occupied also has to be taken into consideration to find out the exact way in which he would behave. Anyway, I was just trying to illustrate how difficult it is to pinpoint an event and how good basics can lead you to correct event. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Thanks for the mail,explanations and puzzle. > It also makes me understand the effort and dedication needed to gain > knowledge in astrology. > In this case Venus is considered as a functional malefic.How do we > determine whether Venus will behave as 11th lord or 6th lord.Is it > based on transits and the house getting activated,especially during > Venus periods. > > Thanks & Respect > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > Once we understand that any event is related to transits and > Dashas > > applied to natal chart, it follows that all planetary transits are > to be > > considered, especially for pinpointing any event. Anyway, the > puzzle, > > as mentioned in the initial mail, was just an illustration of how > > difficult it is to pinpoint an event and to show respect to those > who > > predict in writing, even if the predictions fail. More so if sound > logic > > based on astrological principles is used. This also illustrates > how > > methods that appear to be easy to follow are difficult to apply > unless > > one is sound in Basics of astrology, and the great role played by > the > > astrologer's ability to separate grain from chaff in order to > predict. > > Ruler ships of planets, their gems, nature, functional nature etc. > all > > have a role to play. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the encouragement.To get guidance in proper > > > direction is a blessing. > > > May be i have to put some effort to errect chart in the fashion > you > > > have mentioned. > > > > > > But as you have mentioned Venus-Venus-Venus as the current > period, i > > > believe the prior period Ketu-Mercury had helped you to interact > > > with and share jyotish knowledge at a public level.(This is > known by > > > now). > > > > > > Now transit venus(lord of all three levels) was in 6th from lagna > > > and 8th from moon.7th lord mercury (and dispositor of saturn and > > > mars aspecting lagna)was debilitated in 4th showing lack of > mental > > > happiness and 6th from moon.But these indications are too loose > for > > > me to confirm.But i need your knowledge and explanations - for > > > understanding the indications well. > > > > > > Ruby indicated by ninth lord sun associating with transit rahu in > > > 5th can also be guessed after getting the answer from > > > you.Debilitated mercury was also aspecting 12th from natal moon > from > > > transit position.This mercury is along with sun in natal > chart.some > > > loss. > > > > > > As transit jupiter and saturn stays in a sign for major periods- > > > should we concentrate more on other planets to pin point > incidents. > > > > > > Thanks & Respect > > > pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I appreciate the efforts you have put in. The answer is > somewhat > > > > simpler. I have posted it in a mail to Sunil and the List > today. > > > > You have gone in right direction. Perhaps the problem was two > > > folds. I > > > > use Savana360 days for Vimshottary dasha as given by ancient > > > texts. Also > > > > I use tip of Sun at eastern horizon for sunrise. Erect my > chart in > > > this > > > > fashion, and I am certain you will see the connection. Venus- > Venus- > > > Venus > > > > will appear to be running. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > Please find my try.I will go by ,transiting planetary > positions, > > > from > > > > > lagna and - moon in some cases. > > > > > > > > > > It is really a difficult task (especially for the > inexperienced > > > ones) > > > > > as numerous houses are significantly activated during the > dates > > > and > > > > > timings mentioned by you. > > > > > > > > > > 1)9th house is activated as transiting jupiter enters ninth > from > > > > > lagna.Jupiter rules 1& 4 and hence those as well.Jupiter > aspects > > > > > ascendant and 5th as well.Thus if we filter out, 1st and 9th > > > houses > > > > > are involved, plus jupiter.Transiting Jupiter aspects > ascendant > > > hence > > > > > natal ketu is also activated.Also Ketu in transit is 1st from > > > natal > > > > > moon.Thus 1st and 9th plus ketu and jupiter have significant > > > role. > > > > > > > > > > 2)Now Transiting jupiter and moon are together and hence has > > > > > influence on each other and on the 9th house.Both are > aspecting > > > 3 rd > > > > > house and hence this house is also actvated.Moon rules 8th > house > > > and > > > > > hence that house is as well activated.Now you see Moon and > > > jupier is > > > > > influencing 3rd house significantly. > > > > > > > > > > 3)Mars and Saturn joins natal, mars and saturn, in transit > from > > > lagna > > > > > and hence 7th house is also activated.Plus houses owned by > them > > > ie > > > > > 5th & 12th/ 2nd and 3rd. > > > > > Both these aspect ascendant from transit positions.Thus from > > > here it > > > > > shows that ascendant has a significant role and it cleary > says > > > the > > > > > event is closely connected to you.Planets in 7th house are > > > aspecting > > > > > lagna for confirmation.5th and 3rd also has a role. > > > > > > > > > > >From natal moon jupiter and moon are in 11th positions - > Hence i > > > > > expect a gain. > > > > > > > > > > To summarise one has to select from -a) 1st house jupiter and > > > Ketu b) > > > > > Moon and its effect as 8th lord aspecting 3rd house along > with > > > > > jupiter c)Saturn and Mars aspecting and activating 7th and > 1st > > > houses > > > > > significantly( also 5th and 3rd houses) d) 9th house - as sun > > > lord of > > > > > ninth is aspecting it.Jjupiter and moon in transit are in > 9th. > > > > > > > > > > You are running Ketu-Mercury-Rahu > > > > > Thus 7th has a big say (saturn and mars(transiting and > natal) are > > > > > with Rahu (Pratyantara lord).Mercury the antardasha lord is > also > > > > > involved as it is the dispositor of 7th. > > > > > > > > > > possibility1)Thus i think there has been a sucess in > partnership > > > > > business or victory in a case with respect to 7th house(mars > and > > > > > saturn transiting seventh house).This could be sudden.A > > > speculation > > > > > is also possible as 5th house and 9th houses are > involved.This > > > gain > > > > > could be related to brothers as well -3rd house > involvement.Since > > > > > this is seventh house this can be related to wife as well. > > > > > > > > > > possibility 2)Since ascendant lord, ascendant and ketu are > > > involved - > > > > > with natal ketu in ascendant and transit ketu in 1st from > moon > > > and > > > > > especially as you are running ketu maha dasha - this could > be a > > > > > spiritual awakening or some special enlightenment for you.Or > > > ketu and > > > > > occult related professional gains as mercury is also lord of > > > 10th. > > > > > > > > > > I know i have mentioned numerous possibilities - but the > puzzle > > > is > > > > > tough and my knowledge is limited. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > <boxdel> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends/Gurus, > > > > > > There are many tools used in astrology to foretell the past > > > events > > > > > and > > > > > > future. Every astrologer has his favourite and swears by > it. > > > This > > > > > is as > > > > > > things should be. Many puzzles are posted on the list in > this > > > > > > regards.Varied logic and methods are used to find out the > > > event. > > > > > Many a > > > > > > times new logic is used to justify an event after the event > > > becomes > > > > > known. > > > > > > Some astrologers deride others if they are not able to > > > pinpoint the > > > > > > exact event. Here is one from me. The intention is just to > show > > > > > that it > > > > > > is very difficult to pinpoint an event, and there is no > reason > > > to > > > > > > deride anyone or think that he lacks knowledge.Here is a > chain > > > of > > > > > events > > > > > > which should make the job easy. > > > > > > _ > > > > > > 1) Something happened to me day before yesterday i.e.on > 29th > > > April > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > at about 13.20 hr.s > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Again something else happened today i.e. on 1st of May > 2004 > > > at > > > > > 14.12 > > > > > > hrs. at Nagpur. _ > > > > > > > > > > > > You may use any Astrological method that you like. The > method > > > used > > > > > and > > > > > > steps to arrive at the conclusion may also be given. > > > > > > My chart is on SJC website, if someone does not have it > with > > > him. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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