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Dear Raman Suprajarama,

Thank you for the interest. It is not related to land.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

Raman Suprajarama wrote:

 

> *May 3, 2004, 8:07 am*

>

> Dear Mr. Chandrasekhar,

>

> Namasthe!

>

> Is it related to land?

>

> Om Tat Sat,

>

> Raman Suprajarama

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>

> Chandrashekhar <boxdel@y <boxdel@y>...>

> Sat May 1, 2004 7:09 am

> Test for various methods.

>

> Dear friends/Gurus,

> There are many tools used in astrology to foretell the past events and

> future. Every astrologer has his favourite and swears by it. This is as

> things should be. Many puzzles are posted on the list in this

> regards.Varied logic and methods are used to find out the event. Many a

> times new logic is used to justify an event after the event becomes known.

> Some astrologers deride others if they are not able to pinpoint the

> exact event. Here is one from me. The intention is just to show that it

> is very difficult to pinpoint an event, and there is no reason to

> deride anyone or think that he lacks knowledge.Here is a chain of events

> which should make the job easy.

> _

> 1) Something happened to me day before yesterday i.e.on 29th April 2004

> at about 13.20 hr.s

>

> 2) Again something else happened today i.e. on 1st of May 2004 at 14.12

> hrs. at Nagpur. _

>

> You may use any Astrological method that you like. The method used and

> steps to arrive at the conclusion may also be given.

> My chart is on SJC website, if someone does not have it with him.

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Dear Shubhangi,

 

I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper

reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya

being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship

Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman

is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May

18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology;

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject:

Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I

thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears

to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on

which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I

appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts

anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing

knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only

country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as

per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to

me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i

visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari)

allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister

(as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed

saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I

did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was

a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular

God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be

our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence

my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many

thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi

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Dear Shubhangi,

 

I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper

reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya

being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship

Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman

is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May

18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology;

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject:

Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I

thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears

to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on

which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I

appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts

anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing

knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only

country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as

per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to

me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i

visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari)

allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister

(as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed

saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I

did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was

a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular

God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be

our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence

my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many

thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi

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Dear Sarbani Ji,

Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and

children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra

Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of

VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri

Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also

visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18

steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground

level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18

steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children

are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why

Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once

there

was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods

were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva

told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to

bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's

ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18

steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is

nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra "

OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening (

During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but

also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO

DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH.....

" When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be worshipped by females.

Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called

KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and

children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed

in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different

faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I

obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel

sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail

Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find

any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also

it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet

is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply

Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in

Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either

Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives

Shakti or energy and such a planet is

Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs

and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of

Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.

I hope this helps all.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Dear Shubhangi,

 

I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper

reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya

being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship

Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman

is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May

18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology;

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject:

Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I

thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears

to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on

which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I

appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts

anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing

knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only

country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as

per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to

me, let me

share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited

Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed

all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we

were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying

that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not

like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a

female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God

is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our

right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my

humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many

thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Archives:

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Dear Ramadas ji,

 

That was a wonderful mail. Thanks so much for posting this wonderful

information on this auspicious Friday, which is also very special for

Muruga.

 

Best regards,

 

Jayashree

 

 

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sarbani Ji,

> Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by

men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in

Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that "

VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been

mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which

says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with

family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple

is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and

18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at

the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we

have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and

all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the

temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a

higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a

controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and

> all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya,

son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM

but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain

the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva

stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach

Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but

its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM

SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and

evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only

spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important

information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord

Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide

Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO

VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to

tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by

> females.

> Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple

called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of

men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my

Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind

that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

> So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but

has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like

us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have

different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests

of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be

worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any

difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord

Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta

Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord

Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that

particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha

Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign

represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni

Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is

Vrishabha Rashi, does

> it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the

different signs and their characteristics and then come to a

conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana

Devatha etc.

> I hope this helps all.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Dear Shubhangi,

>

> I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations

and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not

allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war,

women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for

Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is

their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

>

> Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...]

> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM

> onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...;

ramadasrao

> Subject:

>

>

>

>

> Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and

all friends,

>

> I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist

me.

>

> It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the

doubts and concerns on

> which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being

> whether worshiped by females or not.

>

> I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if

the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is

not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is

allright.

>

> India is the only country which has variety of traditions and

customs and each people function

> as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have

already said, it is better that we dont

> make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and

> tradition is supreme to oneself.

>

> Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I

was in school then, i visited Hanuman

> temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari)

allowed all males to offer oil to

> Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2

females present at that time)

> to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that

females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him

so what if he is celibate he had a mother

> who was a female.

>

> What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any

particular God is worshiped by female or not.

> What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-

devta...the one who can assist us overcome

> our problems.

>

> Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-

devta for Mars.

>

> Many thanks to you all.

> Best wishes to you all.

> Regards

> Shubhangi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

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Dear Ramdas Raoji Namaste

 

Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I

remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH

satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please

verify.

Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and

Shankara story.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

 

 

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sarbani Ji,

> Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by

men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in

Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that "

VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been

mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which

says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with

family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple

is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level

and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple

is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground

level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to

worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I

asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is

at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there

was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and

> all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord

Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact

meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son

Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a

result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18

steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning

of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also

there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted

everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108

times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the

intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda

is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu

Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this "

SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know

this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be

worshipped by

> females.

> Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous

temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people

irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS

Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also

we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

> So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but

has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like

us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have

different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned

priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to

be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any

difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord

Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta

Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord

Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that

particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha

Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign

represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni

Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is

Vrishabha Rashi, does

> it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the

different signs and their characteristics and then come to a

conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana

Devatha etc.

> I hope this helps all.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Dear Shubhangi,

>

> I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations

and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not

allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war,

women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for

Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is

their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

>

> Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...]

> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM

> onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...;

ramadasrao

> Subject:

>

>

>

>

> Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and

all friends,

>

> I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to

assist me.

>

> It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the

doubts and concerns on

> which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being

> whether worshiped by females or not.

>

> I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if

the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is

not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is

allright.

>

> India is the only country which has variety of traditions and

customs and each people function

> as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have

already said, it is better that we dont

> make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and

> tradition is supreme to oneself.

>

> Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I

was in school then, i visited Hanuman

> temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari)

allowed all males to offer oil to

> Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2

females present at that time)

> to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that

females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him

so what if he is celibate he had a mother

> who was a female.

>

> What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any

particular God is worshiped by female or not.

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Dear Kaimal Ji,

You are an elderly person and you should be religious also.When there is a

temple of Mother Godess near your house and when SHE came near to your house

during the Jaatra festival which at that time SHE is highly pleased and you did

not bothered to see HER face.After all SHE is our Universal Mother and as usual

because you betrayed HER, she thought SHe will play with you and correct your

methods.Always remember that the Grama Devatha is more important to start any

religious or remedial measures. Everybody has to worship the Grama Devatha

first and then start doing the other remedies which was decided on that day.

Now you do one thing. Chant this following Mantra taken from Shri Durga Sapta

Shati everyday 11 times and surrender yourself to Mother Godess and then see

the results afterwards.Then whenever you start anything new,SHE will be always

with you and I am the witness for this. Nowadays I am running Shani Dasha -

Rahu's Antara and so think how this period will be. I am facing a lot of

problems in my family life and the problems get solved by HER Blessings before

it get worsened. So now you dont worry at all and chant the following Mantra

minimum of 11 times everyday :

HREEM SHARANAAGATHADEENAARTA PARITRAANAPARAAYANE.

SARVASYAATIRHARE DEVI NAARAAYANI NAMOSTUTE.

ÿI— zr[agtdInatR pirÇa[ pray[e,

svRSyaithRre devI narayi[ nmaeStute.

hréà çaraëägatadénärta pariträëa paräyaëe|

sarvasyätirhare devé näräyaëi namostute||

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

SRCKaimal <srckaimal (AT) asianetindia (DOT) com> wrote:

Respected Guruji Shri.Ramadas Rao,

What a wonderul mail from you!After reading it I have the courage to ask you

some thing that was bothering me for some time.I do not observe any religious

discipline other than going to our family deity temple a bit far off once in

every month.Now there is a famous Devi temple very near to where I am staying

and I drop in there once in a while and offer my prananms to the Goddess.An

year back we had planned to go to the famous Mannarsala snake temple to offer

worship there as per your advice.The day before that it was the annual festival

of the local Devi temple when she is brought out in procession on an elephant

and all of used to offer our worship in the traditional form when she arrives

in the front of our houses.That day I was watching some programme in the TV and

eventhough I could hear the commotion below relating to the procesion arriving I

waited to the last moment and when I finally got down the procession had

actually passed my house and I

could not affer my worship to the Devi.

Next day we started for Mannarsala but after a few Kms,the car showed no battery

charge warning and since it was a diesel car I came back and took the petrol car

I had.Both are brand new new generation cars and I never had a problem with

either of them before.So we started again but very soon this car showed break

fluid leaking warning and we had no option pther than to return.I also suddenly

realised that it was the Devi doing this to me for ignoring her when she came in

procession to me the previous day.

You can imagine the turmoil of shame and guilt tormenting me and we all went to

the temole and apologised and did every thing to pacify her by offering her the

pujas we thought necessary.

Next week we again started for Mannarsala but dropped down to the Devi temple

before proceeding further and we had a smooth drive to Mannarsala and we

offered all the pujas there you prescribed.

But we were punished on the return trip when we had an a/c failure.It was the

hottest time in Kerala and you can imagine how it was.And then we had a tyre

puncture too and it was hell but we finally we made it back but with a delay of

about 4 hours!

Incidentally the workshop people could not find anything wrong with both cars.In

fact they never have any problems so far.

Can you please advice me the real message of this experience?After this we

always make it a point to go to the local Devi temple before we venture into

anything but now I am afraid to go to any new temple for fear of displeasing

the deity in furture.

Please advice me.

With warm regards

Kaimal

-

Ramadas Rao

Sarbani Sarkar

Cc: vedic astrology

Friday, May 21, 2004 7:01 PM

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Dear Sarbani Ji,

Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and

children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra

Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of

VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri

Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also

visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18

steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground

level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18

steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children

are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why

Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once

there

was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods

were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva

told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to

bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's

ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18

steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is

nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra "

OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening (

During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but

also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO

DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH.....

" When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be worshipped by females.

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Dear Shri Ramadas,

 

Simply fantastic. Swamimalai is my family deity and you have provided the

answers to the questions I could not ask my father because of his passage from

the Bhuloka. I am delighted beyond words to see this. I have forwarded this to

my mother and will take a printout to study whenever I am praying. Now I want

to ask another question which I have been discussing with Smt Jayashree. It

seems in my family there is a tradition of the newlyweds to carry the kavadai

around Swamimalai. I think this may be done to appease the anger of Mars in my

family (probably unverified but it could be possible that the generations in my

family have a history of kuja dosha). What is your opinion on this quaint

practice? My father was very keen that my elder brother do this immediately

after marriage but I was too young to ask him the questions which I should

have.

 

Best regards

HariRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sarbani Ji,

Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and

children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra

Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of

VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri

Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also

visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18

steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground

level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18

steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children

are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why

Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once

there

was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods

were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva

told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to

bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's

ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18

steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is

nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra "

OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening (

During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but

also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO

DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH.....

" When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be worshipped by females.

Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called

KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and

children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed

in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different

faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I

obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel

sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail

Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find

any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also

it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet

is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply

Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in

Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either

Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives

Shakti or energy and such a planet is

Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs

and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of

Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.

I hope this helps all.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Dear Shubhangi,

 

I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper

reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya

being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship

Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman

is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May

18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology;

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject:

Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I

thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears

to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on

which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I

appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts

anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing

knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only

country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as

per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to

me, let me

share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited

Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed

all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we

were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying

that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not

like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a

female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God

is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our

right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my

humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many

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Dear Hari,

Thanks for your mail. Now I wanted to know about Kavadai around Swamimalai. Can

you please elaborate this ?

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Shri Ramadas,

 

Simply fantastic. Swamimalai is my family deity and you have provided the

answers to the questions I could not ask my father because of his passage from

the Bhuloka. I am delighted beyond words to see this. I have forwarded this to

my mother and will take a printout to study whenever I am praying. Now I want

to ask another question which I have been discussing with Smt Jayashree. It

seems in my family there is a tradition of the newlyweds to carry the kavadai

around Swamimalai. I think this may be done to appease the anger of Mars in my

family (probably unverified but it could be possible that the generations in my

family have a history of kuja dosha). What is your opinion on this quaint

practice? My father was very keen that my elder brother do this immediately

after marriage but I was too young to ask him the questions which I should

have.

 

Best regards

HariRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sarbani Ji,

Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and

children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra

Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of

VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri

Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also

visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18

steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground

level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18

steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children

are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why

Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once

there

was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods

were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva

told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to

bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's

ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18

steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is

nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra "

OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening (

During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but

also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO

DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH.....

" When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be worshipped by females.

Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called

KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and

children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed

in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different

faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I

obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel

sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail

Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find

any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also

it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet

is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply

Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in

Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either

Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives

Shakti or energy and such a planet is

Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs

and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of

Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.

I hope this helps all.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Dear Shubhangi,

 

I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper

reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya

being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship

Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman

is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and

children...

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May

18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology;

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject:

Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I

thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears

to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on

which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I

appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts

anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing

knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only

country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as

per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to

me, let me

share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited

Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed

all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we

were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying

that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not

like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a

female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God

is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our

right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my

humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many

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Dear Jayashree,

You are most welcome.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Jayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramadas ji,That was a wonderful mail. Thanks so much for posting this

wonderful information on this auspicious Friday, which is also very special for

Muruga.Best regards,Jayashreevedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear

Sarbani Ji,> Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by

men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri

Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is

the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in

Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I

also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord

Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher

level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at

the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to

climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and

children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office

bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me

that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM

and> all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of

Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord

Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS

Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after

climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple

saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to

everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if

chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times

gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another

important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord

Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36

which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... "

When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be worshipped by> females.> Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there

is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people

irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even

my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that

Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> So by considering all these, I must state that

GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common

people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have

different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the

temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females

etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either

Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose

if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord

Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart,

we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta

Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in

such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja

is

Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha

Rashi, does> it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs

and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of

Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.> I hope this helps all.> With

Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...>

wrote:> Dear Shubhangi,> > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of

misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not

allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in

general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to

north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover

of obstacles...for men, women

and children...> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > >

> Shubhangi Naik

[shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> To:

onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao>

> > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji

and all friends,> > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to

assist me.> > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the

doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of

entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being > whether worshiped by

females or not. > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group.

But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even

unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting

anyone's feeling is allright.> > India is the only country which has variety of

traditions and customs and each people function > as per their tradition and

belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dont> make

an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones

belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself.> > Coming to me, let me share

with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanuman>

temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all

males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were

the only 2 females present at that time)> to offer. He disallowed saying that

Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like

it and asked him so what

if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female.> > What i wish to say is

that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or

not.> What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the

one who can assist us overcome > our problems.> > Hence my humble request to

you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.> > Many thanks to you all.>

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Dear Prabodh,

I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So some error might

have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is there. Am I correct ?

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:

21052004Dear Ramdas Raoji NamasteReally good to read about Lord Karthikeya.

Thanks for that. But if I remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo

Dhama SatyaH satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please

verify. Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and

Shankara story.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae

naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sarbani Ji,> Both Lord Karthikeya or

Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord

Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra

,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also

has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says

"VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai

near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there

is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple

and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at

the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to

worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the

temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level

than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going

on about the meaning of the word OM and> all Gods were not able to satisfy

lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give

the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so

that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a

result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we

can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but

its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM

SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening (

During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but

also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO

DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to

tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by> females.> Similarly in

my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA

HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to

HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that

temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> So by

considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different

faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I

obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel

sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail

Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find

any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also

it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet

is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply

Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in

Vrishabha

Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded

by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord

Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or

energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does> it not indicate the Shakti

form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to

look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a

conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.>

I hope this helps all.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> >

Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear Shubhangi,> > I agree with you and

there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails!

Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari

and god of war,

women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got

to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover

of obstacles...for men, women and children...> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > >

> Shubhangi Naik

[shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> To:

onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao>

> > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji

and all friends,> > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to

assist me.> > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the

doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of

entering into debate/controversies on

kartikeya being > whether worshiped by females or not. > > I appreciate your

having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's

feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge

without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.> > India is the only country

which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function > as per

their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is

better that we dont> make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

traditions - and each ones belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself.> >

Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school

then, i visited Hanuman> temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not

pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my

sister (as we were the only 2

females present at that time)> to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is

celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and

asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female.> > What

i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped

by female or not.> What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right

ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome > our problems.> > Hence my

humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.> > Many

thanks to you all.> Best wishes to you all.> Regards> Shubhangi> > > > > > > >

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Dear Kaimal Ji,

There is no problem of visiting any new temples. In your case, the problems

happened as you did not take a Darshan of Mother Godess who is very near to

your house.So in future, before starting anything new just visit HER and then

start any new venture and see the result afterwards.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.SRCKaimal <srckaimal (AT) asianetindia (DOT) com> wrote:

Respected Guruji,

Thank you very much.I will chant the Mantra as you suggested without fail hereafter.

After this incident I have a fear of going to new temples as I am afraid to

offend the deity there by not being able to visit the temple again.What is your

advice on this,please.

I am very relieved that when I did offend the Devi,she did not inflict any major punishment.

Regards

Kaimal

-

Ramadas Rao

SRCKaimal

Cc: vedic astrology

Friday, May 21, 2004 9:58 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] RE:

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Kaimal Ji,

You are an elderly person and you should be religious also.When there is a

temple of Mother Godess near your house and when SHE came near to your house

during the Jaatra festival which at that time SHE is highly pleased and you did

not bothered to see HER face.After all SHE is our Universal Mother and as usual

because you betrayed HER, she thought SHe will play with you and correct your

methods.Always remember that the Grama Devatha is more important to start any

religious or remedial measures. Everybody has to worship the Grama Devatha

first and then start doing the other remedies which was decided on that day.

Now you do one thing. Chant this following Mantra taken from Shri Durga Sapta

Shati everyday 11 times and surrender yourself to Mother Godess and then see

the results afterwards.Then whenever you start anything new,SHE will be always

with you and I am the witness for this. Nowadays I am running Shani Dasha -

Rahu's Antara and so think how this period will be. I am facing a lot of

problems in my family life and the problems get solved by HER Blessings before

it get worsened. So now you dont worry at all and chant the following Mantra

minimum of 11 times everyday :

HREEM SHARANAAGATHADEENAARTA PARITRAANAPARAAYANE.

SARVASYAATIRHARE DEVI NAARAAYANI NAMOSTUTE.

ÿI— zr[agtdInatR pirÇa[ pray[e,

svRSyaithRre devI narayi[ nmaeStute.

hréà çaraëägatadénärta pariträëa paräyaëe|

sarvasyätirhare devé näräyaëi namostute||

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

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Dear Ramdas Rao Ji NAmaste

 

The shloka is absolutly correct. WHen I read your mail i thought

that the number might be wrong and later I verified that without

shanti and nayasa mantra and Bhishma/Yudhistir dia, the number will

be indeed 36. So in way you are absolutly correct. Thanks for the

mail. This really made me to again recollect my memories with

sahastranama.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

 

 

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Prabodh,

> I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So

some error might have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is

there. Am I correct ?

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:

> 21052004

> Dear Ramdas Raoji Namaste

>

> Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if

I

> remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH

> satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please

> verify.

> Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda

and

> Shankara story.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

>

>

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao> wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> >

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Sarbani Ji,

> > Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped

by

> men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as

in

> Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that "

> VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been

> mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which

> says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with

> family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple

> is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level

> and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple

> is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground

> level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple

to

> worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I

> asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple

is

> at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once

there

> was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and

> > all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord

> Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact

> meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son

> Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As

a

> result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing

18

> steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning

> of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also

> there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted

> everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108

> times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the

> intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or

Skanda

> is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu

> Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this "

> SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we

know

> this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not

be

> worshipped by

> > females.

> > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous

> temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people

> irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS

> Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also

> we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.

> > So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one

but

> has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people

like

> us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have

> different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned

> priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not

to

> be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any

> difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord

> Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta

> Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord

> Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that

> particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha

> Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female

> sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign

> represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni

> Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is

> Vrishabha Rashi, does

> > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi

> Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the

> different signs and their characteristics and then come to a

> conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana

> Devatha etc.

> > I hope this helps all.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:

> > Dear Shubhangi,

> >

> > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of

misinterpretations

> and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not

> allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of

war,

> women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for

> Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is

> their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women

and

> children...

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Sarbani

> >

> >

> >

> > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...]

> > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM

> > onlyhari; vedic astrology;

sarbani@s...;

> ramadasrao

> > Subject:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and

> all friends,

> >

> > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to

> assist me.

> >

> > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the

> doubts and concerns on

> > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into

> debate/controversies on kartikeya being

> > whether worshiped by females or not.

> >

> > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But

if

> the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally

is

> not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling

is

> allright.

> >

> > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and

> customs and each people function

> > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have

> already said, it is better that we dont

> > make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and

> traditions - and each ones belief and

> > tradition is supreme to oneself.

> >

> > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience.

I

> was in school then, i visited Hanuman

> > temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari)

> allowed all males to offer oil to

> > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only

2

> females present at that time)

> > to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that

> females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked

him

> so what if he is celibate he had a mother

> > who was a female.

> >

> > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any

> particular God is worshiped by female or not.

> > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-

> devta...the one who can assist us overcome

> > our problems.

> >

> > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-

> devta for Mars.

> >

> > Many thanks to you all.

> > Best wishes to you all.

> > Regards

> > Shubhangi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Prabodh,

You are most welcome.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:

22052004Dear Ramdas Rao Ji NAmasteThe shloka is absolutly correct. WHen I read

your mail i thought that the number might be wrong and later I verified that

without shanti and nayasa mantra and Bhishma/Yudhistir dia, the number will be

indeed 36. So in way you are absolutly correct. Thanks for the mail. This

really made me to again recollect my memories with sahastranama.Thanks a lot

for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhandevedic astrology,

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|>

Dear Prabodh, > I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So

some error might have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is there. Am I

correct ?> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas

Rao.> > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:> 21052004> Dear Ramdas Raoji

Namaste> > Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I

> remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH >

satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please > verify. >

Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and > Shankara

story.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> > > --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote:> > > >

` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Sarbani Ji,> > Both Lord

Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by > men,women and

children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in > Shri Subrahmanya

Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " > VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort

of VALLI.This also has been > mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri

Subrhmanyashtakam which > says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also

visted with > family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan

temple > is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level >

and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple > is at the

ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground > level, we have to

climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to > worship and all men,women

and children are worshipping HIM.Here I > asked the temple priests and the

office bearers why Son's temple is > at a higher level than Father.Then they

replied me that "once there > was a controversy was going on about the meaning

of the word OM and> >

all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord > Karthikeya, son of Lord

Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact > meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva

has to bend so that Son > Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS

Father's ears. As a > result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after

climbing 18 > steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the

meaning > of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also >

there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted > everyday

morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 > times gives not only

spiritual strength but also sharpens the > intellect.Another important

information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda > is also a form of Lord Vishnu which

can be seen in Shri Vishnu > Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which

states like this " > SKANDAH

SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know > this,then it is

not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be > worshipped by> >

females.> > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous >

temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people > irrespective of

men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS > Blessings.Even my

Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also > we must bear in mind that

Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> > So by considering all these, I must state that

GOD is only one but > has different faces only and this is only satisfy common

people like > us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have >

different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned > priests of the

temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to > be worshipped by females

etc.etc.As an

Astrologer, I dont find any > difference in worship between either Lord

Kaarthikeya or Lord > Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if

the Ishta > Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord >

Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that > particulr

chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha > Rashi is the indicator

of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female > sign lorded by Shukra and how come

Kuja in such a female sign > represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan

? Kuja is Agni > Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is >

Vrishabha Rashi, does> > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie.,

Adi > Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the > different

signs and their characteristics and then come to a > conclusion about any kind

of Devatha ie., Ishta

Devatha or Palana > Devatha etc.> > I hope this helps all.> > With Shri Hari

Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...>

wrote:> > Dear Shubhangi,> > > > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot

of misinterpretations > and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of

"not > allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, >

women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for > Hanuman...just

got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is > their guardian angel...the

remover of obstacles...for men, women and > children...> > > > Best regards,>

> > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > Shubhangi

Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > > Sent:

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> > onlyhari;

vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; > ramadasrao> > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji

and > all friends,> > > > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in

trying to > assist me.> > > > It appears to me that my mail which was basically

to clarify the > doubts and concerns on > > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on

the verge of entering into > debate/controversies on kartikeya being > > whether

worshiped by females or not. > > > > I appreciate your having shared the

knowledge to the group. But if > the same hurts anyone's feelings even

unknowingly/unintentionally is > not not right. Sharing knowledge without

hurting anyone's feeling is

> allright.> > > > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and

> customs and each people function > > as per their tradition and belief. Hence

as some of you have > already said, it is better that we dont> > make an issue

of it and respect each other's beliefs and > traditions - and each ones belief

and > > tradition is supreme to oneself.> > > > Coming to me, let me share with

you all my personal experience. I > was in school then, i visited Hanuman> >

temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) > allowed all

males to offer oil to > > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we

were the only 2 > females present at that time)> > to offer. He disallowed

saying that Hanuman is celibate and that > females are not allowed to

offer....I did not like it and asked him > so

what if he is celibate he had a mother > > who was a female.> > > > What i wish

to say is that it does not matter whether any > particular God is worshiped by

female or not.> > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta->

devta...the one who can assist us overcome > > our problems.> > > > Hence my

humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-> devta for Mars.> > > >

Many thanks to you all.> > Best wishes to you all.> > Regards> > Shubhangi> > >

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Dear Ramdas Rao Ji

first a belated congratulations on your prediction on

the US presidential elections. Moreover you had

explained the charts about HP rahu centric theory.

would like to know more details on this and would

appreciate if you could share your knowledge on this.

However i do have few questions on this.

1. How to interpret the effects of the Vishmukha

planets if they are a) exalted & b) debilitated.

2. What if they happen to be fiendly with Ra ( ie if

they are Sa, Ve)

3. If you treat Ra's position as Lagna, any palnet in

2nd(regular order as Ra is a retro) will be

detrimental to Ra. so why do you say planets in 2nd

from Ra will always give bad results?

4. shuold AL also matter as AL is how one's image

manifests which is more of an illusion as signified by

Mo.

 

Thanks and with best regards

Lakshman

 

 

 

 

 

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