Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Dear Raman Suprajarama, Thank you for the interest. It is not related to land. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Raman Suprajarama wrote: > *May 3, 2004, 8:07 am* > > Dear Mr. Chandrasekhar, > > Namasthe! > > Is it related to land? > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > Chandrashekhar <boxdel@y <boxdel@y>...> > Sat May 1, 2004 7:09 am > Test for various methods. > > Dear friends/Gurus, > There are many tools used in astrology to foretell the past events and > future. Every astrologer has his favourite and swears by it. This is as > things should be. Many puzzles are posted on the list in this > regards.Varied logic and methods are used to find out the event. Many a > times new logic is used to justify an event after the event becomes known. > Some astrologers deride others if they are not able to pinpoint the > exact event. Here is one from me. The intention is just to show that it > is very difficult to pinpoint an event, and there is no reason to > deride anyone or think that he lacks knowledge.Here is a chain of events > which should make the job easy. > _ > 1) Something happened to me day before yesterday i.e.on 29th April 2004 > at about 13.20 hr.s > > 2) Again something else happened today i.e. on 1st of May 2004 at 14.12 > hrs. at Nagpur. _ > > You may use any Astrological method that you like. The method used and > steps to arrive at the conclusion may also be given. > My chart is on SJC website, if someone does not have it with him. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > * Sponsor* > > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > vedic astrology/ > > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Dear Shubhangi, I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... Best regards, Sarbani Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology; sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Dear Shubhangi, I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... Best regards, Sarbani Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology; sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarbani Ji, Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by females. Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc. I hope this helps all. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Shubhangi, I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... Best regards, Sarbani Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology; sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Dear Ramadas ji, That was a wonderful mail. Thanks so much for posting this wonderful information on this auspicious Friday, which is also very special for Muruga. Best regards, Jayashree vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Sarbani Ji, > Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and > all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by > females. > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. > So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc. > I hope this helps all. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > Dear Shubhangi, > > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM > onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao > Subject: > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends, > > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me. > > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being > whether worshiped by females or not. > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright. > > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dont > make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself. > > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanuman > temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time) > to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female. > > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not. > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta- devta...the one who can assist us overcome > our problems. > > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta- devta for Mars. > > Many thanks to you all. > Best wishes to you all. > Regards > Shubhangi > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 21052004 Dear Ramdas Raoji Namaste Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please verify. Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and Shankara story. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Sarbani Ji, > Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and > all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by > females. > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. > So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc. > I hope this helps all. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > Dear Shubhangi, > > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM > onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao > Subject: > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends, > > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me. > > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being > whether worshiped by females or not. > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright. > > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dont > make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself. > > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanuman > temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time) > to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female. > > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not. > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta- devta...the one who can assist us overcome > our problems. > > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta- devta for Mars. > > Many thanks to you all. > Best wishes to you all. > Regards > Shubhangi > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kaimal Ji, You are an elderly person and you should be religious also.When there is a temple of Mother Godess near your house and when SHE came near to your house during the Jaatra festival which at that time SHE is highly pleased and you did not bothered to see HER face.After all SHE is our Universal Mother and as usual because you betrayed HER, she thought SHe will play with you and correct your methods.Always remember that the Grama Devatha is more important to start any religious or remedial measures. Everybody has to worship the Grama Devatha first and then start doing the other remedies which was decided on that day. Now you do one thing. Chant this following Mantra taken from Shri Durga Sapta Shati everyday 11 times and surrender yourself to Mother Godess and then see the results afterwards.Then whenever you start anything new,SHE will be always with you and I am the witness for this. Nowadays I am running Shani Dasha - Rahu's Antara and so think how this period will be. I am facing a lot of problems in my family life and the problems get solved by HER Blessings before it get worsened. So now you dont worry at all and chant the following Mantra minimum of 11 times everyday : HREEM SHARANAAGATHADEENAARTA PARITRAANAPARAAYANE. SARVASYAATIRHARE DEVI NAARAAYANI NAMOSTUTE. ÿI— zr[agtdInatR pirÇa[ pray[e, svRSyaithRre devI narayi[ nmaeStute. hréà çaraëägatadénärta pariträëa paräyaëe| sarvasyätirhare devé näräyaëi namostute|| I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. SRCKaimal <srckaimal (AT) asianetindia (DOT) com> wrote: Respected Guruji Shri.Ramadas Rao, What a wonderul mail from you!After reading it I have the courage to ask you some thing that was bothering me for some time.I do not observe any religious discipline other than going to our family deity temple a bit far off once in every month.Now there is a famous Devi temple very near to where I am staying and I drop in there once in a while and offer my prananms to the Goddess.An year back we had planned to go to the famous Mannarsala snake temple to offer worship there as per your advice.The day before that it was the annual festival of the local Devi temple when she is brought out in procession on an elephant and all of used to offer our worship in the traditional form when she arrives in the front of our houses.That day I was watching some programme in the TV and eventhough I could hear the commotion below relating to the procesion arriving I waited to the last moment and when I finally got down the procession had actually passed my house and I could not affer my worship to the Devi. Next day we started for Mannarsala but after a few Kms,the car showed no battery charge warning and since it was a diesel car I came back and took the petrol car I had.Both are brand new new generation cars and I never had a problem with either of them before.So we started again but very soon this car showed break fluid leaking warning and we had no option pther than to return.I also suddenly realised that it was the Devi doing this to me for ignoring her when she came in procession to me the previous day. You can imagine the turmoil of shame and guilt tormenting me and we all went to the temole and apologised and did every thing to pacify her by offering her the pujas we thought necessary. Next week we again started for Mannarsala but dropped down to the Devi temple before proceeding further and we had a smooth drive to Mannarsala and we offered all the pujas there you prescribed. But we were punished on the return trip when we had an a/c failure.It was the hottest time in Kerala and you can imagine how it was.And then we had a tyre puncture too and it was hell but we finally we made it back but with a delay of about 4 hours! Incidentally the workshop people could not find anything wrong with both cars.In fact they never have any problems so far. Can you please advice me the real message of this experience?After this we always make it a point to go to the local Devi temple before we venture into anything but now I am afraid to go to any new temple for fear of displeasing the deity in furture. Please advice me. With warm regards Kaimal - Ramadas Rao Sarbani Sarkar Cc: vedic astrology Friday, May 21, 2004 7:01 PM Re: [vedic astrology] RE: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarbani Ji, Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by females. India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Dear Shri Ramadas, Simply fantastic. Swamimalai is my family deity and you have provided the answers to the questions I could not ask my father because of his passage from the Bhuloka. I am delighted beyond words to see this. I have forwarded this to my mother and will take a printout to study whenever I am praying. Now I want to ask another question which I have been discussing with Smt Jayashree. It seems in my family there is a tradition of the newlyweds to carry the kavadai around Swamimalai. I think this may be done to appease the anger of Mars in my family (probably unverified but it could be possible that the generations in my family have a history of kuja dosha). What is your opinion on this quaint practice? My father was very keen that my elder brother do this immediately after marriage but I was too young to ask him the questions which I should have. Best regards HariRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarbani Ji, Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by females. Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc. I hope this helps all. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Shubhangi, I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... Best regards, Sarbani Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology; sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Hari, Thanks for your mail. Now I wanted to know about Kavadai around Swamimalai. Can you please elaborate this ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Shri Ramadas, Simply fantastic. Swamimalai is my family deity and you have provided the answers to the questions I could not ask my father because of his passage from the Bhuloka. I am delighted beyond words to see this. I have forwarded this to my mother and will take a printout to study whenever I am praying. Now I want to ask another question which I have been discussing with Smt Jayashree. It seems in my family there is a tradition of the newlyweds to carry the kavadai around Swamimalai. I think this may be done to appease the anger of Mars in my family (probably unverified but it could be possible that the generations in my family have a history of kuja dosha). What is your opinion on this quaint practice? My father was very keen that my elder brother do this immediately after marriage but I was too young to ask him the questions which I should have. Best regards HariRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarbani Ji, Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by females. Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc. I hope this helps all. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Shubhangi, I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children... Best regards, Sarbani Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com] Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PMonlyhari ; vedic astrology; sarbani (AT) (DOT) org; ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being whether worshiped by females or not. I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dontmake an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and tradition is supreme to oneself.Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanumantemple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother who was a female.What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome our problems.Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.Many thanks to you all.Best wishes to you all.RegardsShubhangi Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Jayashree, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Jayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Ramadas ji,That was a wonderful mail. Thanks so much for posting this wonderful information on this auspicious Friday, which is also very special for Muruga.Best regards,Jayashreevedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sarbani Ji,> Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and> all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by> females.> Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does> it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.> I hope this helps all.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear Shubhangi,> > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children...> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> To: onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao> > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,> > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.> > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being > whether worshiped by females or not. > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.> > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dont> make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself.> > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanuman> temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)> to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female.> > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.> What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome > our problems.> > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.> > Many thanks to you all.> Best wishes to you all.> Regards> Shubhangi> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So some error might have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is there. Am I correct ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote: 21052004Dear Ramdas Raoji NamasteReally good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please verify. Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and Shankara story.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sarbani Ji,> Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and> all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be worshipped by> females.> Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is Vrishabha Rashi, does> it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the different signs and their characteristics and then come to a conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana Devatha etc.> I hope this helps all.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear Shubhangi,> > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and children...> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> To: onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; ramadasrao> > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and all friends,> > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to assist me.> > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the doubts and concerns on > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into debate/controversies on kartikeya being > whether worshiped by females or not. > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is allright.> > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and customs and each people function > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have already said, it is better that we dont> make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and traditions - and each ones belief and > tradition is supreme to oneself.> > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I was in school then, i visited Hanuman> temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) allowed all males to offer oil to > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 females present at that time)> to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him so what if he is celibate he had a mother > who was a female.> > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any particular God is worshiped by female or not.> What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-devta...the one who can assist us overcome > our problems.> > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-devta for Mars.> > Many thanks to you all.> Best wishes to you all.> Regards> Shubhangi> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kaimal Ji, There is no problem of visiting any new temples. In your case, the problems happened as you did not take a Darshan of Mother Godess who is very near to your house.So in future, before starting anything new just visit HER and then start any new venture and see the result afterwards. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.SRCKaimal <srckaimal (AT) asianetindia (DOT) com> wrote: Respected Guruji, Thank you very much.I will chant the Mantra as you suggested without fail hereafter. After this incident I have a fear of going to new temples as I am afraid to offend the deity there by not being able to visit the temple again.What is your advice on this,please. I am very relieved that when I did offend the Devi,she did not inflict any major punishment. Regards Kaimal - Ramadas Rao SRCKaimal Cc: vedic astrology Friday, May 21, 2004 9:58 PM Re: [vedic astrology] RE: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kaimal Ji, You are an elderly person and you should be religious also.When there is a temple of Mother Godess near your house and when SHE came near to your house during the Jaatra festival which at that time SHE is highly pleased and you did not bothered to see HER face.After all SHE is our Universal Mother and as usual because you betrayed HER, she thought SHe will play with you and correct your methods.Always remember that the Grama Devatha is more important to start any religious or remedial measures. Everybody has to worship the Grama Devatha first and then start doing the other remedies which was decided on that day. Now you do one thing. Chant this following Mantra taken from Shri Durga Sapta Shati everyday 11 times and surrender yourself to Mother Godess and then see the results afterwards.Then whenever you start anything new,SHE will be always with you and I am the witness for this. Nowadays I am running Shani Dasha - Rahu's Antara and so think how this period will be. I am facing a lot of problems in my family life and the problems get solved by HER Blessings before it get worsened. So now you dont worry at all and chant the following Mantra minimum of 11 times everyday : HREEM SHARANAAGATHADEENAARTA PARITRAANAPARAAYANE. SARVASYAATIRHARE DEVI NAARAAYANI NAMOSTUTE. ÿI— zr[agtdInatR pirÇa[ pray[e, svRSyaithRre devI narayi[ nmaeStute. hréà çaraëägatadénärta pariträëa paräyaëe| sarvasyätirhare devé näräyaëi namostute|| I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 22052004 Dear Ramdas Rao Ji NAmaste The shloka is absolutly correct. WHen I read your mail i thought that the number might be wrong and later I verified that without shanti and nayasa mantra and Bhishma/Yudhistir dia, the number will be indeed 36. So in way you are absolutly correct. Thanks for the mail. This really made me to again recollect my memories with sahastranama. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Prabodh, > I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So some error might have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is there. Am I correct ? > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: > 21052004 > Dear Ramdas Raoji Namaste > > Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I > remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH > satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please > verify. > Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and > Shankara story. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Sarbani Ji, > > Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by > men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in > Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " > VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been > mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which > says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with > family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple > is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level > and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple > is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground > level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to > worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I > asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is > at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there > was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and > > all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord > Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact > meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son > Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a > result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 > steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning > of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also > there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted > everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 > times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the > intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda > is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu > Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " > SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know > this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be > worshipped by > > females. > > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous > temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people > irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS > Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also > we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha. > > So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but > has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like > us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have > different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned > priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to > be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any > difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord > Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta > Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord > Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that > particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha > Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female > sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign > represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni > Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is > Vrishabha Rashi, does > > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi > Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the > different signs and their characteristics and then come to a > conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana > Devatha etc. > > I hope this helps all. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > Dear Shubhangi, > > > > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations > and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not > allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, > women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for > Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is > their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and > children... > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM > > onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; > ramadasrao > > Subject: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and > all friends, > > > > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to > assist me. > > > > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the > doubts and concerns on > > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into > debate/controversies on kartikeya being > > whether worshiped by females or not. > > > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if > the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is > not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is > allright. > > > > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and > customs and each people function > > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have > already said, it is better that we dont > > make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and > traditions - and each ones belief and > > tradition is supreme to oneself. > > > > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I > was in school then, i visited Hanuman > > temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) > allowed all males to offer oil to > > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 > females present at that time) > > to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that > females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him > so what if he is celibate he had a mother > > who was a female. > > > > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any > particular God is worshiped by female or not. > > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta- > devta...the one who can assist us overcome > > our problems. > > > > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta- > devta for Mars. > > > > Many thanks to you all. > > Best wishes to you all. > > Regards > > Shubhangi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote: 22052004Dear Ramdas Rao Ji NAmasteThe shloka is absolutly correct. WHen I read your mail i thought that the number might be wrong and later I verified that without shanti and nayasa mantra and Bhishma/Yudhistir dia, the number will be indeed 36. So in way you are absolutly correct. Thanks for the mail. This really made me to again recollect my memories with sahastranama.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhandevedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Prabodh, > I just calculated from my hand only about the Shloka Numbers.So some error might have happened.Anyhow the Shloka I mentioned is there. Am I correct ?> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:> 21052004> Dear Ramdas Raoji Namaste> > Really good to read about Lord Karthikeya. Thanks for that. But if I > remember correctly the shloka 36 is "Gururgurutamo Dhama SatyaH > satyaparakaramH..." and "SkandH Skandhadharo..." is no. 49. Please > verify. > Writ-up was really very informative. I did not know about Skanda and > Shankara story.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> > > --- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Sarbani Ji,> > Both Lord Karthikeya or Skanda and Lord Hanumaan are worshipped by > men,women and children. Lord Kaartikeeya is not a Brahmachari as in > Shri Subrahmanya Sahasra Naama Stotra ,it tells that " > VALLEESHANAATHA " , He is the consort of VALLI.This also has been > mentioned in all Shloka last lines in Shri Subrhmanyashtakam which > says "VALLEESHANATHA MAMA DeHI KARAAVALAMBAM."I also visted with > family to Swamimalai near Kumbhakonam where Lord Kaartikeeyan temple > is situated.The surprise there is HIS temple is at a higher level > and 18 steps are there to reach HIS temple and Lord Shiva's temple > is at the ground level.After worshipping Lord Shiva at the ground > level, we have to climb 18 steps to reach Lord Karthikeya temple to > worship and all men,women and children are worshipping HIM.Here I > asked the temple priests and the office bearers why Son's temple is > at a higher level than Father.Then they replied me that "once there > was a controversy was going on about the meaning of the word OM and> > all Gods were not able to satisfy lord Shiva.Then Lord > Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva told HIM that he will give the exact > meaning of OM but then Lord Shiva has to bend so that Son > Kaartikeya will explain the meaning of OM to HIS Father's ears. As a > result, Lord Shiva stayed at the ground level and after climbing 18 > steps, we can reach Lord Karthikeya temple saying that the meaning > of OM is nothing but its chanting gives MOKSHA to everybody." Also > there is a Mantra " OM SHARAVANABHAVAAYA NAMAH " which if chanted > everyday morning and evening ( During Sun rise and Sun Set )108 > times gives not only spiritual strength but also sharpens the > intellect.Another important information is Lord Kartikeeya or Skanda > is also a form of Lord Vishnu which can be seen in Shri Vishnu > Sahasra Naama Stotra Vide Mantra No. 36 which states like this " > SKANDAH SKANDADHARO DHURYO VARADO VAAYUVAAHANAH..... " When we know > this,then it is not wise to tell that Lord Kaartikeeya should not be > worshipped by> > females.> > Similarly in my native place of Mangalore, there is a famous > temple called KARANEEKA HANUMANTA TEMPLE where all people > irrespective of men,women and children pray to HIM and get HIS > Blessings.Even my Brahmopadesham was performed in that temple.Also > we must bear in mind that Lord Hanumaan is Shiva Amsha.> > So by considering all these, I must state that GOD is only one but > has different faces only and this is only satisfy common people like > us.Also another thing I obsereved is that North and South have > different types of worships.I feel sometimes the half learned > priests of the temple give these ideas that certail Gods are not to > be worshipped by females etc.etc.As an Astrologer, I dont find any > difference in worship between either Lord Kaarthikeya or Lord > Hanumaan.Also it depends on one's inner mind.Suppose if the Ishta > Devatha representing planet is Kuja, either one can worship lord > Kaarthikeya or Lord Hanumaan or simply Lord Vishnu.No win that > particulr chart, we observed that in Navamsha, Kuja in Vrishabha > Rashi is the indicator of Ishta Devatha. Now Vrishabha is a female > sign lorded by Shukra and how come Kuja in such a female sign > represent either Lord Kaarthikeeya or Lord Hanumaan ? Kuja is Agni > Tattwa Planet who gives Shakti or energy and such a planet is > Vrishabha Rashi, does> > it not indicate the Shakti form of female diety ie., Adi > Parashakti or Durga etc. ? As per me we have to look into the > different signs and their characteristics and then come to a > conclusion about any kind of Devatha ie., Ishta Devatha or Palana > Devatha etc.> > I hope this helps all.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:> > Dear Shubhangi,> > > > I agree with you and there is as usual a lot of misinterpretations > and improper reading of mails! Its not a question of "not > allow"...its more that Kartikeya being a brahmachari and god of war, > women in general are not advised to worship Kartikeya. As for > Hanuman...just got to north India...specially Delhi...Hanuman is > their guardian angel...the remover of obstacles...for men, women and > children...> > > > Best regards,> > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > Shubhangi Naik [shubhangi_naik@r...] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:25 PM> > onlyhari; vedic astrology; sarbani@s...; > ramadasrao> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari,Sarbaniji,Sajjiji,Jayshreeji,Patwardhanji,Ramdasji and > all friends,> > > > I thank you all and appreciate all of your help in trying to > assist me.> > > > It appears to me that my mail which was basically to clarify the > doubts and concerns on > > which ishta-detva to be prayed is on the verge of entering into > debate/controversies on kartikeya being > > whether worshiped by females or not. > > > > I appreciate your having shared the knowledge to the group. But if > the same hurts anyone's feelings even unknowingly/unintentionally is > not not right. Sharing knowledge without hurting anyone's feeling is > allright.> > > > India is the only country which has variety of traditions and > customs and each people function > > as per their tradition and belief. Hence as some of you have > already said, it is better that we dont> > make an issue of it and respect each other's beliefs and > traditions - and each ones belief and > > tradition is supreme to oneself.> > > > Coming to me, let me share with you all my personal experience. I > was in school then, i visited Hanuman> > temple, the person in charge of that small temple (not pujari) > allowed all males to offer oil to > > Hanuman but did not allow me and my sister (as we were the only 2 > females present at that time)> > to offer. He disallowed saying that Hanuman is celibate and that > females are not allowed to offer....I did not like it and asked him > so what if he is celibate he had a mother > > who was a female.> > > > What i wish to say is that it does not matter whether any > particular God is worshiped by female or not.> > What matter is to whoever we pray should be our right ishta-> devta...the one who can assist us overcome > > our problems.> > > > Hence my humble request to you all is to help me find my ishta-> devta for Mars.> > > > Many thanks to you all.> > Best wishes to you all.> > Regards> > Shubhangi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > Links> > > > To visit your group on the web, go to:> > vedic astrology/> > > > To from this group, send an email to:> > vedic astrology> > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Sponsor> > > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> vedic astrology/> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Dear Ramdas Rao Ji first a belated congratulations on your prediction on the US presidential elections. Moreover you had explained the charts about HP rahu centric theory. would like to know more details on this and would appreciate if you could share your knowledge on this. However i do have few questions on this. 1. How to interpret the effects of the Vishmukha planets if they are a) exalted & b) debilitated. 2. What if they happen to be fiendly with Ra ( ie if they are Sa, Ve) 3. If you treat Ra's position as Lagna, any palnet in 2nd(regular order as Ra is a retro) will be detrimental to Ra. so why do you say planets in 2nd from Ra will always give bad results? 4. shuold AL also matter as AL is how one's image manifests which is more of an illusion as signified by Mo. Thanks and with best regards Lakshman Check out the new Front Page. www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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