Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sunil, As I wrote previously ,Shri Atal Ji will win definitely.His Guru-Shani- Shukra period will give him success.Shani is planet of democracy and as he is exalted and is placed in 11th from Guru will give him this success.Also Guru in transit is crossing over his 10th house,GL etc.will bring him success and power also.But we have to se other transits also.Transit of Shani on 8th from Lagna and Chandra is not conducive for good health.He is running Ashtama Shani and Shani is the lord of 3rd and 4th and becomes malefic for his chart.Now look at Shani's Nakshatra and its lord.He is in Swati ruled by Rahu and is placed in 9th from Lagna,10th from Shani and 8th from Dasha lord Guru.Ok,now where is Rahu and Ketu transitting ? Rahu is transitting over Mesha and Ketu over Tula.So Rahu is aspecting Shani in natal chart and Ketu himself is crossing over natal Shani.Shani is the Karma Karaka and Vairagya Karaka Ketu's transit over Shani is not conducive to his health.Also Ketu is transitting over Swati -4th Pada where his natal Shani is also placed.So is it not enough that the present period till Ketu transits Swati-4th Pada is not good for him ? Now finally look at Ketu's position in his natal chart.Ketu is in Makara Rashi who is sign dispositor for Shani.So during Shani Dasha,Shani's Antara,Ketu has to show his results.Ketu's position in Makara which is a enemic sign is not conducive to his health mainly connected with his knees.Also transitting Guru is aspected by transitting Shani also.Shani also aspects Lagna and 6th lord Kuja through his 10th aspect.This will further aggravate his health problems connected with feet. Now if we look through Rasi Tulya Navamsha Chart,then the whole thing changes.Keeping Lagna in Vrischika ,place all other planets of Navamsha chart.Now see the big difference.Transit Shani is crossing over his Dasha lord Guru and aspecting Antar Dasha lord Shani also along with Budha (V) with Mandi.Guru is transitting over Budha (V) and Mandi.Ketu is transitting over Shani's sign dispositor in Natal chart,ie., Shukra and Kuja,the Lagna and 6th lord.Does this not indicate his health will reduce to carry out his official work? Now let us see his D-6 and apply the same transits.Shani is transitting over Surya and specting Kuja and Shukra.Surya is natural Atma Karaka and Rajyadhikara Karaka and this transit will make him to retire from active politics due to health problems.Also Shani is with Budha (V) in 6th from Lagna whose sign dispositor Chandra is in Lagna and is afflicted by the nodes.Is this not enough to tell that Atal Ji's health will be disturbed during this Guru-Shani period ? Now his speaching ability is shown by both Budha (V) and his sign dispositor Guru who are in 2nd to Lagna and Shukra in Lagna.This forms what is called Saraswati Yoga. Now regarding Prashna,this has to be asked by the party leader or anybody who is related to Shri Atal Ji.So please I am not going to see this Prashna chart. Even then if you want to anwer this Prashna chart,here is my simple analysis.Prashna Lagna falls in Makara whose lord Shani is in 6th and Guru (V) is in 8th.Lagna is in Uttarshada Nakshatra ruled by Surya and so the Prashna is related to politics.5th is occupied by its lord Shukra indicating the success of the prashna but Ketu in 10th from Prashna Lagna will not fructify the complete results of this Prashna chart as Guru does not aspect Lagna.Hora Lord Budha is Vakra and 2nd to him is Rahu and hence the results will not be completely sucessful. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Ramadasji Ur analysis on his victory sounds perfect. I am not debating if he would lose, he seems logical to win. PD is of Sun which is the 10th lord is placed in the 2nd house, I presume this is the time when elections results would come in, ( not sure as not following politics these days). According to me usually good gains can be seen when 10th and 7th lord periods are on. This Sun gains more imp as it is the 7th lord of D10 placed nicely in the 2nd house ( is this true most famous people have Sun in the 2nd house in D10) and it is 11th from GL. But on deeper look i had one query, which maybe very basic, so pls correct here, his Sat is exalted and he is running that dasa, but isnt it placed in the 12th house of losses with Gulika. In transit, Sat is in his 8th house, where Sat has only 1 BAV in Sats BAV. This hypothesis is taking into consideration that his Sat is the giver in the chart. Sat also is more imp I read somewhere for people in politics for their connection with masses. His health could fail when SAT goes on natal AL and also on Rahu, as you explained earlier. and that house has only 3 points in BAV of Sat. Pls guide. Just did a prashna, lagna lord Sat in 6th house with its dispositor Mer in the 3rd house and retro. Mer also becomes the hora lord. does this mean that his health is surely an issue? Prashna time: 23rd Apr 2004, 1.05.31 am, mumbai. According to u which is the planet responsible for his oratory skills, Jup or Mer and does that Mer R give his long gaps between his words. Pls guide. With Blessings of the Divine Mother Sunil JohnMumbai - Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:34 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Not Vajpayee, not NDA? ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, Namaste. I am using the chart given by Shri K.N.Rao in Express Star Teller Magazine.The birth details given was 25/12/1924,5-45 AM at Gwalior.He will be 80 only by this year end if we use this birth data.Anyhow we have to see which of his birth dates will be correct only after the results of election. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao,Which of Atalji's chart are you refering to. There are many charts available. One (used by Sanjayji too) shows Scorpio as the ascendant. Another published by Tarun Bharat, a news paper of the RSS shows Libra ascendant. Recently on a TV interview, Atalji told that he is not yet 80 year of age. So Birth has to be later than 1925/24.Regards,Chandrashekhar.Ramadas Rao wrote:> ` nmae naray[ay,>> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Rageshwari,> In Atal Ji's chart,at present Guru- Shani is going on and Shani is > exalted in Tula Rashi and definitely he will win.But now you see the > transits of Rahu and Ketu.Ketu is transitting over Tula and over > Shani.Shani is Karma Karaka and Ketu is Vairagya Karaka.So his transit > over natal Shani will make him to refrain from prime ministership and > his health also will affect during this transit.Till May 14th,he has > to be very careful in his health.After 6th Sept.2004,when Shani enters > Karka rashi, he transits over natal Rahu and so his health will reduce > completely.Performing of Maha Mrityunjaya Jap with Homam is a must.As > per my knowledge,either Murali Manohar Ji or Madanlal Ji may be the > candidates for this post but we should check their charts also.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> */rageshwari75 <rageshwari75 >/* wrote:>> Dear ??,>> Pt. 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If the ruling coalition was> not very careful, there was the possibility that it might not be able> to form the government at all, Madan warned. The astrologer fears> that there will be violence in the country between April 19 and mid-> May. He feels that Sonia Gandhi's stars will start improving after> April 14 and she will give an impressive performance in the polls.> >> > Superstitious politicians take Madan seriously. After all he was> the man who predicted that though the Congress would return to power> in 1990, Rajiv Gandhi would not become Prime Minister. He also> foresaw the Gujarat earthquake.>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Dear Ramadasji, Thanks for the mail, very exhaustive explanation from you, took me a long time to understand due to my limited intelligence but I gathered the gist of how u used several techniques. Salutations Sunil John Mumbai vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Sunil, > As I wrote previously ,Shri Atal Ji will win definitely.His Guru- Shani- Shukra period will give him success.Shani is planet of democracy and as he is exalted and is placed in 11th from Guru will give him this success.Also Guru in transit is crossing over his 10th house,GL etc.will bring him success and power also.But we have to se other transits also.Transit of Shani on 8th from Lagna and Chandra is not conducive for good health.He is running Ashtama Shani and Shani is the lord of 3rd and 4th and becomes malefic for his chart.Now look at Shani's Nakshatra and its lord.He is in Swati ruled by Rahu and is placed in 9th from Lagna,10th from Shani and 8th from Dasha lord Guru.Ok,now where is Rahu and Ketu transitting ? Rahu is transitting over Mesha and Ketu over Tula.So Rahu is aspecting Shani in natal chart and Ketu himself is crossing over natal Shani.Shani is the Karma Karaka and Vairagya Karaka Ketu's transit over Shani is not conducive to his health.Also Ketu is transitting over > Swati -4th Pada where his natal Shani is also placed.So is it not enough that the present period till Ketu transits Swati-4th Pada is not good for him ? Now finally look at Ketu's position in his natal chart.Ketu is in Makara Rashi who is sign dispositor for Shani.So during Shani Dasha,Shani's Antara,Ketu has to show his results.Ketu's position in Makara which is a enemic sign is not conducive to his health mainly connected with his knees.Also transitting Guru is aspected by transitting Shani also.Shani also aspects Lagna and 6th lord Kuja through his 10th aspect.This will further aggravate his health problems connected with feet. > Now if we look through Rasi Tulya Navamsha Chart,then the whole thing changes.Keeping Lagna in Vrischika ,place all other planets of Navamsha chart.Now see the big difference.Transit Shani is crossing over his Dasha lord Guru and aspecting Antar Dasha lord Shani also along with Budha (V) with Mandi.Guru is transitting over Budha (V) and Mandi.Ketu is transitting over Shani's sign dispositor in Natal chart,ie., Shukra and Kuja,the Lagna and 6th lord.Does this not indicate his health will reduce to carry out his official work? > Now let us see his D-6 and apply the same transits.Shani is transitting over Surya and specting Kuja and Shukra.Surya is natural Atma Karaka and Rajyadhikara Karaka and this transit will make him to retire from active politics due to health problems.Also Shani is with Budha (V) in 6th from Lagna whose sign dispositor Chandra is in Lagna and is afflicted by the nodes.Is this not enough to tell that Atal Ji's health will be disturbed during this Guru-Shani period ? > > Now his speaching ability is shown by both Budha (V) and his sign dispositor Guru who are in 2nd to Lagna and Shukra in Lagna.This forms what is called Saraswati Yoga. > Now regarding Prashna,this has to be asked by the party leader or anybody who is related to Shri Atal Ji.So please I am not going to see this Prashna chart. > Even then if you want to anwer this Prashna chart,here is my simple analysis.Prashna Lagna falls in Makara whose lord Shani is in 6th and Guru (V) is in 8th.Lagna is in Uttarshada Nakshatra ruled by Surya and so the Prashna is related to politics.5th is occupied by its lord Shukra indicating the success of the prashna but Ketu in 10th from Prashna Lagna will not fructify the complete results of this Prashna chart as Guru does not aspect Lagna.Hora Lord Budha is Vakra and 2nd to him is Rahu and hence the results will not be completely sucessful. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > Sunil John <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote: > Dear Ramadasji > Ur analysis on his victory sounds perfect. I am not debating if he would lose, he seems logical to win. > PD is of Sun which is the 10th lord is placed in the 2nd house, I presume this is the time when elections results would come in, ( not sure as not following politics these days). > According to me usually good gains can be seen when 10th and 7th lord periods are on. > This Sun gains more imp as it is the 7th lord of D10 placed nicely in the 2nd house ( is this true most famous people have Sun in the 2nd house in D10) and it is 11th from GL. > > > But on deeper look i had one query, which maybe very basic, so pls correct here, his Sat is exalted and he is running that dasa, but isnt it placed in the 12th house of losses with Gulika. > In transit, Sat is in his 8th house, where Sat has only 1 BAV in Sats BAV. This hypothesis is taking into consideration that his Sat is the giver in the chart. > Sat also is more imp I read somewhere for people in politics for their connection with masses. > > His health could fail when SAT goes on natal AL and also on Rahu, as you explained earlier. and that house has only 3 points in BAV of Sat. > > Pls guide. > > Just did a prashna, lagna lord Sat in 6th house with its dispositor Mer in the 3rd house and retro. Mer also becomes the hora lord. does this mean that his health is surely an issue? > Prashna time: 23rd Apr 2004, 1.05.31 am, mumbai. > > According to u which is the planet responsible for his oratory skills, Jup or Mer and does that Mer R give his long gaps between his words. > > Pls guide. > > > With Blessings of the Divine Mother > > Sunil John > Mumbai > - > Ramadas Rao > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:34 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Not Vajpayee, not NDA? > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, > Namaste. > I am using the chart given by Shri K.N.Rao in Express Star Teller Magazine.The birth details given was 25/12/1924,5-45 AM at Gwalior.He will be 80 only by this year end if we use this birth data.Anyhow we have to see which of his birth dates will be correct only after the results of election. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Ramadas Rao, > Which of Atalji's chart are you refering to. There are many charts > available. One (used by Sanjayji too) shows Scorpio as the ascendant. > Another published by Tarun Bharat, a news paper of the RSS shows Libra > ascendant. Recently on a TV interview, Atalji told that he is not yet 80 > year of age. So Birth has to be later than 1925/24. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Rageshwari, > > In Atal Ji's chart,at present Guru- Shani is going on and Shani is > > exalted in Tula Rashi and definitely he will win.But now you see the > > transits of Rahu and Ketu.Ketu is transitting over Tula and over > > Shani.Shani is Karma Karaka and Ketu is Vairagya Karaka.So his transit > > over natal Shani will make him to refrain from prime ministership and > > his health also will affect during this transit.Till May 14th,he has > > to be very careful in his health.After 6th Sept.2004,when Shani enters > > Karka rashi, he transits over natal Rahu and so his health will reduce > > completely.Performing of Maha Mrityunjaya Jap with Homam is a must.As > > per my knowledge,either Murali Manohar Ji or Madanlal Ji may be the > > candidates for this post but we should check their charts also. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > */rageshwari75 <rageshwari75>/* wrote: > > > > Dear ??, > > > > Pt. Sanjay Rath have something else to say: > > > > http://www.srath.com/news/toi2004.htm > > > > Rageshwari. > > > > vedic astrology, "yakshi_yakshi" > > <yakshi_yakshi> wrote: > > > http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45254 > > > > > > Though the poll surveys predict an NDA victory, the BJP camp > > remains nervous. One reason for the BJP's insecurity is astrologer > > Lacchman Das Madan's prediction in the March issue of his Babaji > > magazine that neither Vajpayee nor Advani, nor for that matter Sonia, > > will be the next Prime Minister. A BJP leader who approached the 82- > > year-old astrologer to discuss his prediction, hoping that that there > > was a possibility of the situation improving, received further bad > > news. While the earlier prediction had foretold an NDA victory, Madan > > has now put in a rider because of the strong planetary influences > > working against the BJP and its allies. If the ruling coalition was > > not very careful, there was the possibility that it might not be able > > to form the government at all, Madan warned. The astrologer fears > > that there will be violence in the country between April 19 and mid- > > May. He feels that Sonia Gandhi's stars will start improving after > > April 14 and she will give an impressive performance in the polls. > > > > > > Superstitious politicians take Madan seriously. After all he was > > the man who predicted that though the Congress would return to power > > in 1990, Rajiv Gandhi would not become Prime Minister. He also > > foresaw the Gujarat earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Dear Ramadas Raoji, If we take Vrishchika as Lagna for Bajpai, Saturn in exaltation in 12th and aspecting the 6th makes the 6th house more powerful than the 7th. The question is how come he was not in service for long. Again Lord of the 4th in 12th could also show him to be in distant lands, but he has been in the Motherland, though he has traveled a lot. Moon debilitated in Lagna would suggest a person not very firm in decision making and finding difficulty in decision making. He has not displayed such a tendency, being with the same organisations through out his life.This is the reason I think there is something wrong with the chart and Lagna should be Tula. Your comments and analysis would be appreciated. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao wrote: > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Sunil, > As I wrote previously ,Shri Atal Ji will win definitely.His > Guru-Shani- Shukra period will give him success.Shani is planet of > democracy and as he is exalted and is placed in 11th from Guru will > give him this success.Also Guru in transit is crossing over his 10th > house,GL etc.will bring him success and power also.But we have to se > other transits also.Transit of Shani on 8th from Lagna and Chandra is > not conducive for good health.He is running Ashtama Shani and Shani is > the lord of 3rd and 4th and becomes malefic for his chart.Now look at > Shani's Nakshatra and its lord.He is in Swati ruled by Rahu and is > placed in 9th from Lagna,10th from Shani and 8th from Dasha lord > Guru.Ok,now where is Rahu and Ketu transitting ? Rahu is transitting > over Mesha and Ketu over Tula.So Rahu is aspecting Shani in natal > chart and Ketu himself is crossing over natal Shani.Shani is the Karma > Karaka and Vairagya Karaka Ketu's transit over Shani is not conducive > to his health.Also Ketu is transitting over Swati -4th Pada where his > natal Shani is also placed.So is it not enough that the present period > till Ketu transits Swati-4th Pada is not good for him ? Now finally > look at Ketu's position in his natal chart.Ketu is in Makara Rashi who > is sign dispositor for Shani.So during Shani Dasha,Shani's Antara,Ketu > has to show his results.Ketu's position in Makara which is a enemic > sign is not conducive to his health mainly connected with his > knees.Also transitting Guru is aspected by transitting Shani > also.Shani also aspects Lagna and 6th lord Kuja through his 10th > aspect.This will further aggravate his health problems connected with > feet. > Now if we look through Rasi Tulya Navamsha Chart,then the whole thing > changes.Keeping Lagna in Vrischika ,place all other planets of > Navamsha chart.Now see the big difference.Transit Shani is crossing > over his Dasha lord Guru and aspecting Antar Dasha lord Shani also > along with Budha (V) with Mandi.Guru is transitting over Budha (V) and > Mandi.Ketu is transitting over Shani's sign dispositor in Natal > chart,ie., Shukra and Kuja,the Lagna and 6th lord.Does this not > indicate his health will reduce to carry out his official work? > Now let us see his D-6 and apply the same transits.Shani is > transitting over Surya and specting Kuja and Shukra.Surya is natural > Atma Karaka and Rajyadhikara Karaka and this transit will make him to > retire from active politics due to health problems.Also Shani is with > Budha (V) in 6th from Lagna whose sign dispositor Chandra is in Lagna > and is afflicted by the nodes.Is this not enough to tell that Atal > Ji's health will be disturbed during this Guru-Shani period ? > > Now his speaching ability is shown by both Budha (V) and his sign > dispositor Guru who are in 2nd to Lagna and Shukra in Lagna.This forms > what is called Saraswati Yoga. > Now regarding Prashna,this has to be asked by the party leader or > anybody who is related to Shri Atal Ji.So please I am not going to see > this Prashna chart. > Even then if you want to anwer this Prashna chart,here is my simple > analysis.Prashna Lagna falls in Makara whose lord Shani is in 6th and > Guru (V) is in 8th.Lagna is in Uttarshada Nakshatra ruled by Surya and > so the Prashna is related to politics.5th is occupied by its lord > Shukra indicating the success of the prashna but Ketu in 10th from > Prashna Lagna will not fructify the complete results of this Prashna > chart as Guru does not aspect Lagna.Hora Lord Budha is Vakra and 2nd > to him is Rahu and hence the results will not be completely sucessful. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > */Sunil John <suniljohn_2004/* wrote: > > *Dear Ramadasji* > *Ur analysis on his victory sounds perfect. I am not debating if > he would lose, he seems logical to win. * > *PD is of Sun which is the 10th lord is placed in the 2nd house, I > presume this is the time when elections results would come in, ( > not sure as not following politics these days). * > *According to me _usually _good gains can be seen when 10th and > 7th lord periods are on.* > *This Sun gains more imp as it is the 7th lord of D10 placed > nicely in the 2nd house ( is this true most famous people have Sun > in the 2nd house in D10) and it is 11th from GL.* > > ** > *But on deeper look i had one query, which maybe very basic, so > pls correct here, his Sat is exalted and he is running that dasa, > but isnt it placed in the 12th house of losses with Gulika.* > *In transit, Sat is in his 8th house, where Sat has only 1 BAV in > Sats BAV. This hypothesis is taking into consideration that his > Sat is the giver in the chart. * > *Sat also is more imp I read somewhere for people in politics for > their connection with masses.* > > *His health could fail when SAT goes on natal AL and also on Rahu, > as you explained earlier. and that house has only 3 points in BAV > of Sat.* > > *Pls guide.* > > *Just did a prashna, lagna lord Sat in 6th house with its > dispositor Mer in the 3rd house and retro. Mer also becomes the > hora lord. does this mean that his health is surely an issue?* > *Prashna time: 23rd Apr 2004, 1.05.31 am, mumbai.* > > *According to u which is the planet responsible for his oratory > skills, Jup or Mer and does that Mer R give his long gaps between > his words.* > > *Pls guide.* > > > *With Blessings of the Divine Mother* > > *Sunil John > Mumbai* > > - > ** Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao > *To:* vedic astrology > <vedic astrology> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Not Vajpayee, not NDA? > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, > Namaste. > I am using the chart given by Shri K.N.Rao in Express Star > Teller Magazine.The birth details given was 25/12/1924,5-45 AM > at Gwalior.He will be 80 only by this year end if we use this > birth data.Anyhow we have to see which of his birth dates will > be correct only after the results of election. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel/* wrote: > > Dear Ramadas Rao, > Which of Atalji's chart are you refering to. There are > many charts > available. One (used by Sanjayji too) shows Scorpio as the > ascendant. > Another published by Tarun Bharat, a news paper of the RSS > shows Libra > ascendant. Recently on a TV interview, Atalji told that he > is not yet 80 > year of age. So Birth has to be later than 1925/24. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Rageshwari, > > In Atal Ji's chart,at present Guru- Shani is going on > and Shani is > > exalted in Tula Rashi and definitely he will win.But now > you see the > > transits of Rahu and Ketu.Ketu is transitting over Tula > and over > > Shani.Shani is Karma Karaka and Ketu is Vairagya > Karaka.So his transit > > over natal Shani will make him to refrain from prime > ministership and > > his health also will affect during this transit.Till May > 14th,he has > > to be very careful in his health.After 6th > Sept.2004,when Shani enters > > Karka rashi, he transits over natal Rahu and so his > health will reduce > > completely.Performing of Maha Mrityunjaya Jap with Homam > is a must.As > > per my knowledge,either Murali Manohar Ji or Madanlal Ji > may be the > > candidates for this post but we should check their > charts also. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > */rageshwari75 <rageshwari75/* wrote: > > > > Dear ??, > > > > Pt. 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Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sunil, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.suniljohn_2002 <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Ramadasji,Thanks for the mail, very exhaustive explanation from you, took me a long time to understand due to my limited intelligence but I gathered the gist of how u used several techniques.SalutationsSunil JohnMumbai--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sunil,> As I wrote previously ,Shri Atal Ji will win definitely.His Guru-Shani- Shukra period will give him success.Shani is planet of democracy and as he is exalted and is placed in 11th from Guru will give him this success.Also Guru in transit is crossing over his 10th house,GL etc.will bring him success and power also.But we have to se other transits also.Transit of Shani on 8th from Lagna and Chandra is not conducive for good health.He is running Ashtama Shani and Shani is the lord of 3rd and 4th and becomes malefic for his chart.Now look at Shani's Nakshatra and its lord.He is in Swati ruled by Rahu and is placed in 9th from Lagna,10th from Shani and 8th from Dasha lord Guru.Ok,now where is Rahu and Ketu transitting ? Rahu is transitting over Mesha and Ketu over Tula.So Rahu is aspecting Shani in natal chart and Ketu himself is crossing over natal Shani.Shani is the Karma Karaka and Vairagya Karaka Ketu's transit over Shani is not conducive to his health.Also Ketu is transitting over> Swati -4th Pada where his natal Shani is also placed.So is it not enough that the present period till Ketu transits Swati-4th Pada is not good for him ? Now finally look at Ketu's position in his natal chart.Ketu is in Makara Rashi who is sign dispositor for Shani.So during Shani Dasha,Shani's Antara,Ketu has to show his results.Ketu's position in Makara which is a enemic sign is not conducive to his health mainly connected with his knees.Also transitting Guru is aspected by transitting Shani also.Shani also aspects Lagna and 6th lord Kuja through his 10th aspect.This will further aggravate his health problems connected with feet.> Now if we look through Rasi Tulya Navamsha Chart,then the whole thing changes.Keeping Lagna in Vrischika ,place all other planets of Navamsha chart.Now see the big difference.Transit Shani is crossing over his Dasha lord Guru and aspecting Antar Dasha lord Shani also along with Budha (V) with Mandi.Guru is transitting over Budha (V) and Mandi.Ketu is transitting over Shani's sign dispositor in Natal chart,ie., Shukra and Kuja,the Lagna and 6th lord.Does this not indicate his health will reduce to carry out his official work?> Now let us see his D-6 and apply the same transits.Shani is transitting over Surya and specting Kuja and Shukra.Surya is natural Atma Karaka and Rajyadhikara Karaka and this transit will make him to retire from active politics due to health problems.Also Shani is with Budha (V) in 6th from Lagna whose sign dispositor Chandra is in Lagna and is afflicted by the nodes.Is this not enough to tell that Atal Ji's health will be disturbed during this Guru-Shani period ?> > Now his speaching ability is shown by both Budha (V) and his sign dispositor Guru who are in 2nd to Lagna and Shukra in Lagna.This forms what is called Saraswati Yoga.> Now regarding Prashna,this has to be asked by the party leader or anybody who is related to Shri Atal Ji.So please I am not going to see this Prashna chart.> Even then if you want to anwer this Prashna chart,here is my simple analysis.Prashna Lagna falls in Makara whose lord Shani is in 6th and Guru (V) is in 8th.Lagna is in Uttarshada Nakshatra ruled by Surya and so the Prashna is related to politics.5th is occupied by its lord Shukra indicating the success of the prashna but Ketu in 10th from Prashna Lagna will not fructify the complete results of this Prashna chart as Guru does not aspect Lagna.Hora Lord Budha is Vakra and 2nd to him is Rahu and hence the results will not be completely sucessful.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > Sunil John <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote:> Dear Ramadasji> Ur analysis on his victory sounds perfect. I am not debating if he would lose, he seems logical to win. > PD is of Sun which is the 10th lord is placed in the 2nd house, I presume this is the time when elections results would come in, ( not sure as not following politics these days). > According to me usually good gains can be seen when 10th and 7th lord periods are on.> This Sun gains more imp as it is the 7th lord of D10 placed nicely in the 2nd house ( is this true most famous people have Sun in the 2nd house in D10) and it is 11th from GL.> > > But on deeper look i had one query, which maybe very basic, so pls correct here, his Sat is exalted and he is running that dasa, but isnt it placed in the 12th house of losses with Gulika.> In transit, Sat is in his 8th house, where Sat has only 1 BAV in Sats BAV. This hypothesis is taking into consideration that his Sat is the giver in the chart. > Sat also is more imp I read somewhere for people in politics for their connection with masses.> > His health could fail when SAT goes on natal AL and also on Rahu, as you explained earlier. and that house has only 3 points in BAV of Sat.> > Pls guide.> > Just did a prashna, lagna lord Sat in 6th house with its dispositor Mer in the 3rd house and retro. Mer also becomes the hora lord. does this mean that his health is surely an issue?> Prashna time: 23rd Apr 2004, 1.05.31 am, mumbai.> > According to u which is the planet responsible for his oratory skills, Jup or Mer and does that Mer R give his long gaps between his words.> > Pls guide.> > > With Blessings of the Divine Mother> > Sunil John> Mumbai> ----- Original Message ----- > Ramadas Rao > vedic astrology > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:34 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Not Vajpayee, not NDA?> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,> Namaste.> I am using the chart given by Shri K.N.Rao in Express Star Teller Magazine.The birth details given was 25/12/1924,5-45 AM at Gwalior.He will be 80 only by this year end if we use this birth data.Anyhow we have to see which of his birth dates will be correct only after the results of election.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Ramadas Rao,> Which of Atalji's chart are you refering to. There are many charts > available. One (used by Sanjayji too) shows Scorpio as the ascendant. > Another published by Tarun Bharat, a news paper of the RSS shows Libra > ascendant. Recently on a TV interview, Atalji told that he is not yet 80 > year of age. So Birth has to be later than 1925/24.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> > Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> >> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Rageshwari,> > In Atal Ji's chart,at present Guru- Shani is going on and Shani is > > exalted in Tula Rashi and definitely he will win.But now you see the > > transits of Rahu and Ketu.Ketu is transitting over Tula and over > > Shani.Shani is Karma Karaka and Ketu is Vairagya Karaka.So his transit > > over natal Shani will make him to refrain from prime ministership and > > his health also will affect during this transit.Till May 14th,he has > > to be very careful in his health.After 6th Sept.2004,when Shani enters > > Karka rashi, he transits over natal Rahu and so his health will reduce > > completely.Performing of Maha Mrityunjaya Jap with Homam is a must.As > > per my knowledge,either Murali Manohar Ji or Madanlal Ji may be the > > candidates for this post but we should check their charts also.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > */rageshwari75 <rageshwari75>/* wrote:> >> > Dear ??,> >> > Pt. Sanjay Rath have something else to say:> >> > http://www.srath.com/news/toi2004.htm> >> > Rageshwari.> >> > vedic astrology, "yakshi_yakshi"> > <yakshi_yakshi> wrote:> > > http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45254> > >> > > Though the poll surveys predict an NDA victory, the BJP camp> > remains nervous. One reason for the BJP's insecurity is astrologer> > Lacchman Das Madan's prediction in the March issue of his Babaji> > magazine that neither Vajpayee nor Advani, nor for that matter Sonia,> > will be the next Prime Minister. A BJP leader who approached the 82-> > year-old astrologer to discuss his prediction, hoping that that there> > was a possibility of the situation improving, received further bad> > news. While the earlier prediction had foretold an NDA victory, Madan> > has now put in a rider because of the strong planetary influences> > working against the BJP and its allies. If the ruling coalition was> > not very careful, there was the possibility that it might not be able> > to form the government at all, Madan warned. The astrologer fears> > that there will be violence in the country between April 19 and mid-> > May. He feels that Sonia Gandhi's stars will start improving after> > April 14 and she will give an impressive performance in the polls.> > >> > > Superstitious politicians take Madan seriously. After all he was> > the man who predicted that though the Congress would return to power> > in 1990, Rajiv Gandhi would not become Prime Minister. 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Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, I am using both Parashari and Nadi technics and so there is some confusion.Now 4th lord Shani's sign dispositor Shukra is in Lagna itself indicating he will be in his native country.Chandra even debilitated in Lagna in Vrischika Rashi,his exaltation lord Shukra is in Lagna Kendra and so Chandra's debilitation gets cancelled.Rahu is the Nakshatra lord for Karma karaka Shani and being placed in 9th in watery sign Karka ,he travelled a lot to foreign countries on official tours.Shani in 12th from Shukra has not given him bed pleasures ( not married ).5th is occupied by Kuja aspected by Rahu in Ashlesha Nakshatra will not allow him to get a child of his own due to severe Sarpa Dosha.Ketu's transit over Karma karaka Shani will make him refrain from his official duties.Transit Shani's aspects to Surya,the planet of Rajyadhikara will make him away from active politics. >From Nadi point of view,Guru's position can be considered as the native ( Lagna is not considered ) and as he is in his own house with Surya and Budha (V) his vocabulary is very good.Ketu is 2nd to Guru indicating he performs Moksha related activities.Chandra and Shukra from 12th indicates he has got a super power of construction of poems indicating he is also a good poet.Shani's aspect on Putra Karaka ( as well as Pitru Karaka ) Surya has denied any children as Patni Karaka Shukra is in trine with Kuja and in Moksha tattwa Rashi has denied him getting married. Like this many things can be predicted from Nadi system.As transit Guru is in trine to natal Guru,Surya,he will gain of position . But health problems will not allow him for his power to continue or even if he continues,when Shani enters Karka where Rahu is there which indicates Kala,he may suffer from severe health problems and may not be able to continue in power. I hope this clarifies your doubts. As many are of the view that Atal ji has many birth data,so I dont want to continue further till I get a exact birth data. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ramadas Raoji,If we take Vrishchika as Lagna for Bajpai, Saturn in exaltation in 12th and aspecting the 6th makes the 6th house more powerful than the 7th. The question is how come he was not in service for long. Again Lord of the 4th in 12th could also show him to be in distant lands, but he has been in the Motherland, though he has traveled a lot. Moon debilitated in Lagna would suggest a person not very firm in decision making and finding difficulty in decision making. He has not displayed such a tendency, being with the same organisations through out his life.This is the reason I think there is something wrong with the chart and Lagna should be Tula. Your comments and analysis would be appreciated.Regards,Chandrashekhar.Ramadas Rao wrote:> ` nmae naray[ay,>> om namo näräyaëäya|>> Dear Sunil,> As I wrote previously ,Shri Atal Ji will win definitely.His > Guru-Shani- Shukra period will give him success.Shani is planet of > democracy and as he is exalted and is placed in 11th from Guru will > give him this success.Also Guru in transit is crossing over his 10th > house,GL etc.will bring him success and power also.But we have to se > other transits also.Transit of Shani on 8th from Lagna and Chandra is > not conducive for good health.He is running Ashtama Shani and Shani is > the lord of 3rd and 4th and becomes malefic for his chart.Now look at > Shani's Nakshatra and its lord.He is in Swati ruled by Rahu and is > placed in 9th from Lagna,10th from Shani and 8th from Dasha lord > Guru.Ok,now where is Rahu and Ketu transitting ? Rahu is transitting > over Mesha and Ketu over Tula.So Rahu is aspecting Shani in natal > chart and Ketu himself is crossing over natal Shani.Shani is the Karma > Karaka and Vairagya Karaka Ketu's transit over Shani is not conducive > to his health.Also Ketu is transitting over Swati -4th Pada where his > natal Shani is also placed.So is it not enough that the present period > till Ketu transits Swati-4th Pada is not good for him ? Now finally > look at Ketu's position in his natal chart.Ketu is in Makara Rashi who > is sign dispositor for Shani.So during Shani Dasha,Shani's Antara,Ketu > has to show his results.Ketu's position in Makara which is a enemic > sign is not conducive to his health mainly connected with his > knees.Also transitting Guru is aspected by transitting Shani > also.Shani also aspects Lagna and 6th lord Kuja through his 10th > aspect.This will further aggravate his health problems connected with > feet.> Now if we look through Rasi Tulya Navamsha Chart,then the whole thing > changes.Keeping Lagna in Vrischika ,place all other planets of > Navamsha chart.Now see the big difference.Transit Shani is crossing > over his Dasha lord Guru and aspecting Antar Dasha lord Shani also > along with Budha (V) with Mandi.Guru is transitting over Budha (V) and > Mandi.Ketu is transitting over Shani's sign dispositor in Natal > chart,ie., Shukra and Kuja,the Lagna and 6th lord.Does this not > indicate his health will reduce to carry out his official work?> Now let us see his D-6 and apply the same transits.Shani is > transitting over Surya and specting Kuja and Shukra.Surya is natural > Atma Karaka and Rajyadhikara Karaka and this transit will make him to > retire from active politics due to health problems.Also Shani is with > Budha (V) in 6th from Lagna whose sign dispositor Chandra is in Lagna > and is afflicted by the nodes.Is this not enough to tell that Atal > Ji's health will be disturbed during this Guru-Shani period ?> > Now his speaching ability is shown by both Budha (V) and his sign > dispositor Guru who are in 2nd to Lagna and Shukra in Lagna.This forms > what is called Saraswati Yoga.> Now regarding Prashna,this has to be asked by the party leader or > anybody who is related to Shri Atal Ji.So please I am not going to see > this Prashna chart.> Even then if you want to anwer this Prashna chart,here is my simple > analysis.Prashna Lagna falls in Makara whose lord Shani is in 6th and > Guru (V) is in 8th.Lagna is in Uttarshada Nakshatra ruled by Surya and > so the Prashna is related to politics.5th is occupied by its lord > Shukra indicating the success of the prashna but Ketu in 10th from > Prashna Lagna will not fructify the complete results of this Prashna > chart as Guru does not aspect Lagna.Hora Lord Budha is Vakra and 2nd > to him is Rahu and hence the results will not be completely sucessful.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.>>> */Sunil John /* wrote:>> *Dear Ramadasji*> *Ur analysis on his victory sounds perfect. I am not debating if> he would lose, he seems logical to win. *> *PD is of Sun which is the 10th lord is placed in the 2nd house, I> presume this is the time when elections results would come in, (> not sure as not following politics these days). *> *According to me _usually _good gains can be seen when 10th and> 7th lord periods are on.*> *This Sun gains more imp as it is the 7th lord of D10 placed> nicely in the 2nd house ( is this true most famous people have Sun> in the 2nd house in D10) and it is 11th from GL.*> > ** > *But on deeper look i had one query, which maybe very basic, so> pls correct here, his Sat is exalted and he is running that dasa,> but isnt it placed in the 12th house of losses with Gulika.*> *In transit, Sat is in his 8th house, where Sat has only 1 BAV in> Sats BAV. This hypothesis is taking into consideration that his> Sat is the giver in the chart. *> *Sat also is more imp I read somewhere for people in politics for> their connection with masses.*> > *His health could fail when SAT goes on natal AL and also on Rahu,> as you explained earlier. and that house has only 3 points in BAV> of Sat.*> > *Pls guide.*> > *Just did a prashna, lagna lord Sat in 6th house with its> dispositor Mer in the 3rd house and retro. Mer also becomes the> hora lord. does this mean that his health is surely an issue?*> *Prashna time: 23rd Apr 2004, 1.05.31 am, mumbai.*> > *According to u which is the planet responsible for his oratory> skills, Jup or Mer and does that Mer R give his long gaps between> his words.*> > *Pls guide.*> > > *With Blessings of the Divine Mother*> > *Sunil John> Mumbai*>> -> ** Ramadas Rao > *To:* vedic astrology> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:34 PM> *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Not Vajpayee, not NDA?>> ` nmae naray[ay,>> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,> Namaste.> I am using the chart given by Shri K.N.Rao in Express Star> Teller Magazine.The birth details given was 25/12/1924,5-45 AM> at Gwalior.He will be 80 only by this year end if we use this> birth data.Anyhow we have to see which of his birth dates will> be correct only after the results of election.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.>> */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:>> Dear Ramadas Rao,> Which of Atalji's chart are you refering to. There are> many charts> available. One (used by Sanjayji too) shows Scorpio as the> ascendant.> Another published by Tarun Bharat, a news paper of the RSS> shows Libra> ascendant. Recently on a TV interview, Atalji told that he> is not yet 80> year of age. So Birth has to be later than 1925/24.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.>> Ramadas Rao wrote:>> > ` nmae naray[ay,> >> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Rageshwari,> > In Atal Ji's chart,at present Guru- Shani is going on> and Shani is> > exalted in Tula Rashi and definitely he will win.But now> you see the> > transits of Rahu and Ketu.Ketu is transitting over Tula> and over> > Shani.Shani is Karma Karaka and Ketu is Vairagya> Karaka.So his transit> > over natal Shani will make him to refrain from prime> ministership and> > his health also will affect during this transit.Till May> 14th,he has> > to be very careful in his health.After 6th> Sept.2004,when Shani enters> > Karka rashi, he transits over natal Rahu and so his> health will reduce> > completely.Performing of Maha Mrityunjaya Jap with Homam> is a must.As> > per my knowledge,either Murali Manohar Ji or Madanlal Ji> may be the> > candidates for this post but we should check their> charts also.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > */rageshwari75 /* wrote:> >> > Dear ??,> >> > Pt. Sanjay Rath have something else to say:> >> > http://www.srath.com/news/toi2004.htm> >> > Rageshwari.> >> > vedic astrology, "yakshi_yakshi"> > wrote:> > >> http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45254> > >> > > Though the poll surveys predict an NDA victory,> the BJP camp> > remains nervous. One reason for the BJP's insecurity> is astrologer> > Lacchman Das Madan's prediction in the March issue> of his Babaji> > magazine that neither Vajpayee nor Advani, nor for> that matter Sonia,> > will be the next Prime Minister. A BJP leader who> approached the 82-> > year-old astrologer to discuss his prediction,> hoping that that there> > was a possibility of the situation improving,> received further bad> > news. While the earlier prediction had foretold an> NDA victory, Madan> > has now put in a rider because of the strong> planetary influences> > working against the BJP and its allies. If the> ruling coalition was> > not very careful, there was the possibility that it> might not be able> > to form the government at all, Madan warned. The> astrologer fears> > that there will be violence in the country between> April 19 and mid-> > May. He feels that Sonia Gandhi's stars will start> improving after> > April 14 and she will give an impressive performance> in the polls.> > >> > > Superstitious politicians take Madan seriously.> After all he was> > the man who predicted that though the Congress would> return to power> > in 1990, Rajiv Gandhi would not become Prime> Minister. He also> > foresaw the Gujarat earthquake.> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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