Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Dear Sastry ji, You can just call me Rajesh. I appreciate your thoughts and hope you understand that my views were against quick remedies and NOT against astrological remedies. The reason is well known, the real astrological remedies are hardly understood clearly and peope develop over-expectation based on fraudulent type remedies. Sometimes my views can appear to be very critical, but actually I have no such intentions to be over-critical or over-analytic.. we all need to be compassionate and yet express ourselves clearly thesedays..after all astrology was meant to help mankind and not become a cheap tool to generate money in the name of totally illogical remedies which are circulating thesedays on TV, magazines and newspapers everywhere, by people who just want to make quick millions even without bothering to look at any horoscope etc., and who are promising everything in just few days for all types of financial, social and health problems. I just felt that its our moral duty to save Hinduism from such cheap degradations and insults, rather say it would be a sin to turn our faces away from such type of astrological propaganda, (which has absolutely no relation with real vedic astrology) and pretend that nothing is happening around us. Thanks and Regards RMK ____________________ ___ Dear Parvatishankar Hope my calculations below are correct…Well as you already know that you have Saturn and Mars in cojunction in 4th house in Gemini, causing afflictions to your fourth house and the houses aspected by them especially the 10th house of career, so it obvious that you need mantras to overcome this affliction. Since Mars is the 9th Lord of Fortune for Pisces Lagna, so you should pray to Saturn, who is malefic being 11th and 12th Lord. Also as per your chart, you are pasing through Sade Sati period of Saturn, when Saturn transits through Gemini, Cancer and Leo for next 5 or more years. Since 4th house is the seed of developments for the 10th house of career, so its good to pray to Lord Shanidev. For Rahu you should pray to Goddess Durga and Jupiter as Lagnesh and 10th Lord in 12th house can take you to faraway places for career objectives. Jupiter does aspect 4th house and provides some relief from Shani-Mars afflictions. Venus as 8th Lord in Lagna is not a very favourable position for Venus Mahadasa. Conjunction of Sun and Mercury in 2nd house also affects wealth, since although Sun is exalted here in Aries, yet an exlated Sun always creates more pride and dynamic behaviour, which is more of leaderhip type than for wealth creation…I think the Sun is too powerful in the 2nd house of wealth,…it does have a strong Isthaphala (beneifc rays) but being 6th Lord in 2nd, it can create some pain. I can understand that there is lot of pain in your horoscope, so may be its better to pray to Shanidev and Goddess Durga. I think you already know all this and so hardly need any analysis…I wish you better times and better fortunes, now that you already know that mantras and gemstones etc take time to give their effects. If I remember correctly than the mantras for SHaniDev and Goddess Durga are as follows: OM SHANIYAE NAMAH SHAM SHANISCHARAYA NAMAH AIM HRIM KLEEM CHAMUDAYAI VICHAI(for Goddesses Lakshmi, Saraswati and Kali who combine to make Goddess Durga). Hope the Gurus correct my mantras for spelling mistakes, or provide more relevant ones, if I am not correct. I really do not know the precise numbers to be chanted everyday, but thing 108/day until you reach 40,000 to 100,000 or more may be required with full concentration. also even though your rashi chart appears to be complex for my understanding, yet the mantras have tremendous powers and who knows they may help you to overcome all hurdles by your own efforts(once your voice reaches the higher heavens somehow)…if not then its better to consult the gurus. These are my humble thoughts.All the best and regards.RMK -- These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora Lite" software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org). -- parvatishankar Natal Chart April 30, 1974 Time: 4:45:00 am Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 35' 00", 12 N 59' 00" Bangalore, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Ananda - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (78.72% left) Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (42.70% left) Yoga: Ganda (Sa) Karana: Balava (Mo) Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Vi) Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Vi) Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars) Sunrise: 6:02:43 am (April 29) Sunset: 6:31:49 pm (April 29) Janma Ghatis: 56.7615 Ayanamsa: 23-30-11.35 Sidereal Time: 18:55:26 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 23 Pi 11' 04.94" Reva 2 Pi Cp Sun - BK 15 Ar 45' 10.58" Bhar 1 Ar Le Moon - AK 24 Cn 18' 22.64" Asre 3 Cn Aq Mars - MK 12 Ge 15' 04.77" Ardr 2 Ge Cp Mercury - PiK 10 Ar 17' 41.13" Aswi 4 Ar Cn Jupiter - AmK 17 Aq 36' 33.90" Sata 4 Aq Pi Venus - DK 1 Pi 07' 34.33" PBha 4 Pi Cn Saturn - PK 7 Ge 29' 55.40" Ardr 1 Ge Sg Rahu - GK 28 Sc 07' 17.77" Jye 4 Sc Pi Ketu 28 Ta 07' 17.77" Mrig 2 Ta Vi Maandi 15 Sc 30' 20.68" Anu 4 Sc Sc Gulika 5 Sc 40' 56.76" Anu 1 Sc Le Bhava Lagna 25 Pi 24' 11.04" Reva 3 Pi Aq Hora Lagna 5 Pi 58' 20.27" UBha 1 Pi Le Ghati Lagna 7 Cp 40' 47.95" USha 4 Cp Pi Vighati Lagna 16 Pi 13' 06.39" UBha 4 Pi Sc Varnada Lagna 29 Aq 09' 25.21" PBha 3 Aq Ge Sree Lagna 19 Li 27' 16.25" Swat 4 Li Pi Dhooma 29 Le 05' 10.58" UPha 1 Le Sg Vyatipata 0 Sc 54' 49.42" Visa 4 Sc Cn Parivesha 0 Ta 54' 49.42" Krit 2 Ta Cp Indra Chapa 29 Aq 05' 10.58" PBha 3 Aq Ge Upaketu 15 Pi 45' 10.58" UBha 4 Pi Sc Kaala 25 Sg 25' 33.10" PSha 4 Sg Sc Mrityu 11 Aq 33' 14.76" Sata 2 Aq Cp Artha Prahara 7 Pi 26' 13.50" UBha 2 Pi Vi Yama Ghantaka 3 Ar 14' 46.93" Aswi 1 Ar Ar Rasi +--------------+ | \ Me / \ / | | \ Su / \ Ju / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ke x As x AL GL | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Sa \ 12 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Ma x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / Gk | |Mo x x Md Ra | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Mo / \ Sa / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ma \ / | |GL \ / \ / | |Ju Ra x As x AL Md | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 10 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | | x Me x Ke | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Su \ | | / \ / HL Gk \ | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Mer Mer 1964-08-02 Ket 1966-12-30 Ven 1967-12-27 Sun 1970-10-27 Moo 1971-09-02 Mar 1973-02-01 Rah 1974-01-29 Jup 1976-08-17 Sat 1978-11-23 Ket Ket 1981-08-02 Ven 1981-12-29 Sun 1983-02-28 Moo 1983-07-06 Mar 1984-02-04 Rah 1984-07-02 Jup 1985-07-21 Sat 1986-06-27 Mer 1987-08-06 Ven Ven 1988-08-02 Sun 1991-12-02 Moo 1992-12-02 Mar 1994-08-02 Rah 1995-10-02 Jup 1998-10-02 Sat 2001-06-02 Mer 2004-08-02 Ket 2007-06-03 Sun Sun 2008-08-02 Moo 2008-11-19 Mar 2009-05-21 Rah 2009-09-26 Jup 2010-08-20 Sat 2011-06-09 Mer 2012-05-21 Ket 2013-03-27 Ven 2013-08-02 Moo Moo 2014-08-02 Mar 2015-06-03 Rah 2016-01-02 Jup 2017-07-02 Sat 2018-11-01 Mer 2020-06-02 Ket 2021-11-01 Ven 2022-06-02 Sun 2024-02-01 Mar Mar 2024-08-02 Rah 2024-12-29 Jup 2026-01-16 Sat 2026-12-23 Mer 2028-02-01 Ket 2029-01-28 Ven 2029-06-26 Sun 2030-08-26 Moo 2031-01-01 Rah Rah 2031-08-02 Jup 2034-04-14 Sat 2036-09-07 Mer 2039-07-15 Ket 2042-01-31 Ven 2043-02-19 Sun 2046-02-19 Moo 2047-01-13 Mar 2048-07-14 Jup Jup 2049-08-02 Sat 2051-09-20 Mer 2054-04-02 Ket 2056-07-08 Ven 2057-06-14 Sun 2060-02-13 Moo 2060-12-01 Mar 2062-04-02 Rah 2063-03-09 Sat Sat 2065-08-02 Mer 2068-08-04 Ket 2071-04-14 Ven 2072-05-23 Sun 2075-07-24 Moo 2076-07-05 Mar 2078-02-03 Rah 2079-03-15 Jup 2082-01-19 vedic astrology, "venkatarama_sastry" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > Dear Rajesh Ji and group, > > My first reaction when I saw your posting, sir, was to vehemently > disagree with it, and post evidence of remedies working. But then, > thankfully, better counsel prevailed, and after some thought, I do > agree with you to a great extent. > > You are right, blindly performing remedies, or worse, paying someone > to perform them on your behalf is not the answer. It may give > temporary relief, but it does nto solve the problem. Accepting > pleasure and pain with equanimity, dharmic living and doing good in > thought, word and deed are the long term solutions. Prayer - true > prayer, not merely a bribe or empty promises - can and will work > miracles, but this works both by changing OUR attitudes within us, > as well as by changing the external circumstances and situations. > Prayer does nto always give us what we want, but it gives us what is > truely good for us. (Thank goodness some of the silly things I > prayed for were not granted :-), the good Lord had more sense than > me!) It's not a quick fix. The idea that our evil deeds will be > washed away by donating mustard oil or wearing a gemstone is > ridiculous. Those remedies may do two things, one, postpone the > karmaphal (the results of your actions) to another time, when, > hopefully you will be more able to bear them, or two, provide > temporary relief from the same. If I may draw a parallel, the > remedies are like cough drops and Tylenol when you are suffering > from a strep throat, which do indeed make you feel better sometimes. > But the true "cure" is penicillin, which acts slowly but surely. And > an even better cure is prevention, by maintaining general health and > building resistance to infections. > > Another analogy is the ever-popular dieting. If you are overweight, > going on a diet is a quick solution that may or may not last. But > the sure way to maintain your weight is to eat sensibly and > exercise, both not the "glamorous" solutions but the only real ones. > > So, my take on this is that yes, remedies do work but only when > performed in the right spirit, and while it is OK to try a quick > remedy to take the edge off suffering, the real remedy is, as Rajesh > Ji said, to develop the right atitude. > > (By the way, talking about coincidences - as I was just thinking > about this issue this morning, and how this is so much like dieting, > I opened the newspaper and the headlines were about how the low- carb > craze here is going too far. Partha once wrote a wonderful article > in this group, regarding his train journey and the > many "coincidences" along his way. Really the more cognizant you > become, it seems you see more "coincidences" ... reminds me of the > sloka from the Geetha where the Lord talks about the string of > pearls, with each pearl reflecing all the others. Similarly, every > situation, every thought seems to have parallels in everything > around us. How wonderful! To see the world in a grain of sand ... ) > > Sorry about the rambling. > -VRS > > By the way, Rajesh Ji, I do think the Gods and Goddesses are a whole > lot closer than that! To me they are everywhere, even within someone > as worthless as myself. And in their/His/Her infinite kindness, they > care for us, even though we don't really deserve that love and care. > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Parvatishankar(and all others souls who are desperately > seeking > > quick remedies), > > > > Here are some of my humble thoughts on remedies: > > > > Divine Providence cannot be altered. You will have to chant more > than > > 100,000 mantras to control the afflictions to some extent and > that > > too for limited periods of time, depending upon you concentration > and > > efforts. Rather the best remedy is to learn to live with > afflictions, > > try to control the demoralizing effects(materialistic and > spiritually > > demoralizing) on the mind due to these afflictions and move > forward > > in life with confidence. No one can ascend to higher levels of > > planetary dimensions and fix your horoscope through various > remedies > > i.e., all types of yantra, kavach, stones etc are not going to > fix > > all such afflictions, if they seriously exist in the horoscope, > > otherwise the astrologer would become GOD. I have not analysed > your > > horoscope and the Gurus can give you mantras..but ultimately in > this > > Kaliyuga only your efforts, patience and concentration on present > > karma can lead you forward..if the remedies existed , won't 2 > million > > people in USA and millions in India, gets jobs soon by wearing > all > > these kavach etc., > > > > > > If you still choose to live in the dreamworld, then its your > choice. > > And also won't millions of unmarried girls get suitable > > husbands/marriage partners or the seriously sick get cured soon… > All > > you can do is to chant mantras for the GODs and GODDESSes who do > not > > actually reside on this planet actually, but get linked to us > somehow > > by chanting mantras, which is again subject to your tremendous > > confidence in these mantras…when you alone cannot hear any voice > > which is more than 15 ft away, but have confidence that the Gods > are > > listening to your mantras, in worlds which are millions and > billions > > of miles away somehow, than its all due to your extreme confidence > > only. I am not so learned to say anything more on Gods and mantras… > In > > short Divine Providence cannot be altered…all you can do is your > > karma and chant the mantras…there is no other magic here. I have > seen > > planets working, rather their effects are visible in physical > > dimensions(astrological analysis can always be done but can anyone > > predict the future in all its dimensions! we are all subject to > human > > error here.) but have'nt seen anyone's horoscope and destiny > getting > > altered drastically by any astrological remedies. hope this helps… > all > > the best and regards…RMK > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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