Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Dear Partha, a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system. b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is related to dominance. c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic-astrologers change their blinkered view of life. d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice. e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for Geocosmic Research in US. Regards Rajeev Upadhye In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. -- Lenny Bruce - partha sarathy Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev Dear Rajeev Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can make a clan of people dominating? And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies? best wishes partha Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Partha, I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, the other side of restlessness. Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may NOT be the same. Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation, remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are hampering our growth... What I have presented is sufficient to carry label of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice. I hope this clarifies... Rajeev Upadhye In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. -- Lenny Bruce - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev Dear Rajeeva) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, going through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is very clear that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house, the yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he is in inimical house, so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!@There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. And you are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all the planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^Please review your analysis. best wishespartha--- In vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,> > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63 born. Many 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing difficulties since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets bringing in forced transformations in our life. > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in 2004 this Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight conjunction with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or the other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to this complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines my earlier statements.> > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC till 2007 will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some more time.> > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus which brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In addtion you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give constant urge to dominate others. > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review your attitudes accdly...> > > Rajeev Upadhye> > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.> -- Lenny Bruce> > ----- Original Message ----- > simhan63 > vedic astrology > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM> [vedic astrology] Please Help!> > > Om Namo Narayana> > Dear members> > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.> DOB is 28.8.1963> Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.> Place of birth is Chennai> Day of birth is Wednesday.> > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the strongest in my > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth house > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's dasa!> Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.> > My entire professional career upto now has not been satisfactory!> For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of job! I could > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my embarassment, I had > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who studied with me > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt totally ashamed > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me are well > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me!> > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa atleast? > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.> > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in rescuing me from > this depressed state.> > Regards> V.B.Lakshminarasimhan> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Links> > > vedic astrology/> > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > c.. 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Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Dear Rajeev Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma. I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology for some "insights" into life. I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few questions that made me think aloud., Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind, There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you could kindly spare some time a) What are the various planets representing? b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking through a telescope, or does it signify anything else? c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent? d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work done by western astrologer on the same? e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could provide some links, it would be useful. best wishes partha vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system. > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is related to dominance. > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic- astrologers change their blinkered view of life. > > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice. > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for Geocosmic Research in US. > > Regards > > Rajeev Upadhye > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > -- Lenny Bruce > > - > partha sarathy > Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > Dear Rajeev > > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can make a clan of people dominating? > And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies? > best wishes > partha > > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun- Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, the other side of restlessness. > > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may NOT be the same. > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation, remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are hampering our growth... > > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice. > > I hope this clarifies... > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > -- Lenny Bruce > > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > Dear Rajeev > > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, going > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?! > b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is very clear > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house, the > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he is in > inimical house, > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO, cheiron, and > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!@ > There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. And you > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all the > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^ > Please review your analysis. > best wishes > partha > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan, > > > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63 born. Many > 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing difficulties > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets bringing in > forced transformations in our life. > > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in 2004 this > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight conjunction > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or the > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to this > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines my > earlier statements. > > > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC till 2007 > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some more > time. > > > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus which > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In addtion > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give constant urge > to dominate others. > > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review your > attitudes accdly... > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > - > > simhan63 > > vedic astrology > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM > > [vedic astrology] Please Help! > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > Dear members > > > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B. > > DOB is 28.8.1963 > > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m. > > Place of birth is Chennai > > Day of birth is Wednesday. > > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the strongest in > my > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth house > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's dasa! > > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion. > > > > My entire professional career upto now has not been satisfactory! > > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of job! I > could > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my embarassment, I > had > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who studied with > me > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt totally > ashamed > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me are well > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me! > > > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa atleast? > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004. > > > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in rescuing me > from > > this depressed state. > > > > Regards > > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Dear Partha, You say - "I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology for some "insights" into life." This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western astrologers are open enough to look for insights into other systems but vedic astrologers do not exhibit same openness about other systems. You say - "I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few questions that made me think aloud.," Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas and practices. Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing special about it... I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion - that is Mr. Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to answer them. I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western astrology, but one that comes to my mind immediately is http://www.renaissanceastrology.com . You may be interested in the works of Kepler, Lilly Enjoy, Rajeev Upadhye In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. -- Lenny Bruce - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev Dear RajeevThank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma. I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology for some "insights" into life.I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few questions that made me think aloud.,Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind,There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you could kindly spare some timea) What are the various planets representing?b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking through a telescope, or does it signify anything else?c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent?d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work done by western astrologer on the same?e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could provide some links, it would be useful.best wishesparthavedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> Dear Partha,> > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system. > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is related to dominance. > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic-astrologers change their blinkered view of life. > > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice. > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for Geocosmic Research in US. > > Regards > > Rajeev Upadhye > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.> -- Lenny Bruce> > - > partha sarathy > To: Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev> > > Dear Rajeev> > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can make a clan of people dominating?> And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies?> best wishes> partha> > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> Dear Partha,> > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, the other side of restlessness. > > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may NOT be the same. > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation, remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are hampering our growth...> > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice. > > I hope this clarifies...> > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.> -- Lenny Bruce> > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev> > > Dear Rajeev> > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, going > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!> b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is very clear > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house, the > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he is in > inimical house, > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO, cheiron, and > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!@> There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. And you > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all the > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^> Please review your analysis. > best wishes> partha> > --- In vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> > wrote:> > > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,> > > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63 born. Many > 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing difficulties > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets bringing in > forced transformations in our life. > > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in 2004 this > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight conjunction > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or the > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to this > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines my > earlier statements.> > > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC till 2007 > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some more > time.> > > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus which > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In addtion > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give constant urge > to dominate others. > > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review your > attitudes accdly...> > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye> > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.> > -- Lenny Bruce> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > simhan63 > > To: vedic astrology > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM> > [vedic astrology] Please Help!> > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > Dear members> > > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.> > DOB is 28.8.1963> > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.> > Place of birth is Chennai> > Day of birth is Wednesday.> > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the strongest in > my > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth house > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's dasa!> > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.> > > > My entire professional career upto now has not been satisfactory!> > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of job! I > could > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my embarassment, I > had > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who studied with > me > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt totally > ashamed > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me are well > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me!> > > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa atleast? > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.> > > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in rescuing me > from > > this depressed state.> > > > Regards> > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan> > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > --> ----------> > Links> > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> > vedic astrology/> > > > b.. > > vedic astrology> > > > c.. Terms of > Service.> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > --------> Links> > > vedic astrology/> > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > Search - Find what you're looking for faster.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Dear Partha, This is probably my last mail to you unless you bring up meaningfull discussion. You say - "This outer planet business fails me completely," and also say "PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!@" Comapre the above two statements with your latest statement - "I have learnt all the systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, Western astrology etc etc.". With your miserable reading of my mails I doubt wheather you have learnt anything at all. You are asking me why I am not answering your questions? SHould anyone take trouble to answer if someone makes such contradictiory statements. Regarding my "openness" to vedic astrology - I am willing to learn from a vedic astrologer with total humble attitude who will give me a single correct prediction about my future. All of them have failed miserably in the past... given a chance I would find a tallest tree and hang them together. Rajeev Upadhye vedic astrology, partha sarathy <partvinu5 > wrote: > Dear Rajeev > > Thanks for the website , i shall look into it. I have learnt all the systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, Western astrology etc etc. > I have dwelled into all, and i have come to conclusion, that vedic astrology is the best from a spiritual standpoint. > I fail to understand why you are not attempting the questions, probably you are not "open" to vedic astrology? > best wishes > partha > > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > You say - > "I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology for some "insights" into life." > > This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western astrologers are open enough to look for insights into other systems but vedic astrologers do not exhibit same openness about other systems. > > You say - > "I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few > questions that made me think aloud.," > > Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas and practices. Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing special about it... > > I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion - that is Mr. Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to answer them. > > I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western astrology, but one that comes to my mind immediately is http://www. renaissanceastrology.com . You may be interested in the works of Kepler, Lilly > > > Enjoy, > > Rajeev Upadhye > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > -- Lenny Bruce > > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > Dear Rajeev > > Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma. > I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic > astrology for some "insights" into life. > > I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few > questions that made me think aloud., > > Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are > rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the > impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind, > > There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you > could kindly spare some time > > a) What are the various planets representing? > b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking > through a telescope, or does it signify anything else? > c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent? > d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work > done by western astrologer on the same? > e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could > provide some links, it would be useful. > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v... > > wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same > lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system. > > > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house > placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is > related to dominance. > > > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic- > astrologers change their blinkered view of life. > > > > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western > astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice. > > > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for > Geocosmic Research in US. > > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > - > > partha sarathy > > Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > > > > Dear Rajeev > > > > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years > around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can > make a clan of people dominating? > > And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is > Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies? > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have > attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun- > Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, > the other side of restlessness. > > > > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an > acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may > NOT be the same. > > > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best > remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation, > remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are > hampering our growth... > > > > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label > of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice. > > > > I hope this clarifies... > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > - > > V.Partha sarathy > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > > > > Dear Rajeev > > > > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, > going > > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?! > > b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is very > clear > > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house, > the > > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he > is in > > inimical house, > > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO, > cheiron, and > > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?! @ > > There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. > And you > > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all > the > > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^ > > Please review your analysis. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye > <yuyutsu@v...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan, > > > > > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63 > born. Many > > 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > > > > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing > difficulties > > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets > bringing in > > forced transformations in our life. > > > > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in > 2004 this > > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight > conjunction > > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or > the > > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to > this > > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines > my > > earlier statements. > > > > > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC > till 2007 > > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some > more > > time. > > > > > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus > which > > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In > addtion > > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give > constant urge > > to dominate others. > > > > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review > your > > attitudes accdly... > > > > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > > > - > > > simhan63 > > > vedic astrology > > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Please Help! > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B. > > > DOB is 28.8.1963 > > > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m. > > > Place of birth is Chennai > > > Day of birth is Wednesday. > > > > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the > strongest in > > my > > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth > house > > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's > dasa! > > > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion. > > > > > > My entire professional career upto now has not been > satisfactory! > > > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of > job! I > > could > > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my > embarassment, I > > had > > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who > studied with > > me > > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt > totally > > ashamed > > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me > are well > > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me! > > > > > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa > atleast? > > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004. > > > > > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in > rescuing me > > from > > > this depressed state. > > > > > > Regards > > > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > -------- > > ---------- > > > Links > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > b.. > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > c.. > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Dear Rajeev I had clearly stated that I "understand" western astrology, and also stated that i regard vedic astrology as a better tool from a spiritual standpoint. I guess you are not reading my mails correctly. I dont make contradictory statements. I said i "learnt" all the systems, i never said that i prefer them over vedic astrology. Infact i was very clear and unambigious over my choice of vedic astrology. The reason why i mentioned that i learnt this systems, was due to my "openness" to experiement with all techniques. i have learnt strangest of techniques from different systems. but none of them gave me as much spiritual insight as Vedic-astrology. This clarifies your doubts i suppose. The reason why you are dismissing vedic astrology is due to your "personal bias". You had experienced some negative responses from some vedic-astrologers, and dismissed the entire vedic astrology system!!! I dont get any pleasure or delight in discussing or proving the superiority of one system over another. For me subject, and the process is more important than personal prejudices, and experiences with a few people. ANd this is my last mail on this thread, as i dont want to expend my energies over these issues which are always debated for eternity. If you are open to learn vedic astrology, then you can explore "your own self-that needs to be tapped". best wishes partha vedic astrology, "yuyutsu2000" <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > This is probably my last mail to you unless you bring up meaningfull > discussion. > > You say - "This outer planet business fails me completely," and also > say "PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just dont > make any sense?!@" > > Comapre the above two statements with your latest statement - "I have > learnt all the systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, > Western astrology etc etc.". > > With your miserable reading of my mails I doubt wheather you have > learnt anything at all. You are asking me why I am not answering your > questions? SHould anyone take trouble to answer if someone makes such > contradictiory statements. > > Regarding my "openness" to vedic astrology - I am willing to learn > from a vedic astrologer with total humble attitude who will give me a > single correct prediction about my future. All of them have failed > miserably in the past... given a chance I would find a tallest tree > and hang them together. > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > > vedic astrology, partha sarathy <partvinu5 > > wrote: > > Dear Rajeev > > > > Thanks for the website , i shall look into it. I have learnt all the > systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, Western astrology > etc etc. > > I have dwelled into all, and i have come to conclusion, that > vedic astrology is the best from a spiritual standpoint. > > I fail to understand why you are not attempting the questions, > probably you are not "open" to vedic astrology? > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > You say - > > "I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to > vedic astrology for some "insights" into life." > > > > This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western > astrologers are open enough to look for insights into other systems > but vedic astrologers do not exhibit same openness about other > systems. > > > > You say - > > "I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it > > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few > > questions that made me think aloud.," > > > > Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas > and practices. Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing > special about it... > > > > I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion - > that is Mr. Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to answer > them. > > > > I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western astrology, > but one that comes to my mind immediately is http://www. > renaissanceastrology.com . You may be interested in the works of > Kepler, Lilly > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > - > > V.Partha sarathy > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > > > > Dear Rajeev > > > > Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma. > > I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to > vedic > > astrology for some "insights" into life. > > > > I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it > > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few > > questions that made me think aloud., > > > > Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are > > rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the > > impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind, > > > > There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you > > could kindly spare some time > > > > a) What are the various planets representing? > > b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking > > through a telescope, or does it signify anything else? > > c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent? > > d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work > > done by western astrologer on the same? > > e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could > > provide some links, it would be useful. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v... > > > > wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same > > lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system. > > > > > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house > > placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is > > related to dominance. > > > > > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic- > > astrologers change their blinkered view of life. > > > > > > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western > > astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice. > > > > > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for > > Geocosmic Research in US. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > > > - > > > partha sarathy > > > Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev > > > > > > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 > years > > around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can > > make a clan of people dominating? > > > And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is > > Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies? > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have > > attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun- > > Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, > > the other side of restlessness. > > > > > > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been > an > > acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons > may > > NOT be the same. > > > > > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best > > remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation, > > remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are > > hampering our growth... > > > > > > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label > > of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice. > > > > > > I hope this clarifies... > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > > > - > > > V.Partha sarathy > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev > > > > > > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, > > going > > > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?! > > > b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is > very > > clear > > > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house, > > the > > > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he > > is in > > > inimical house, > > > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO, > > cheiron, and > > > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?! > @ > > > There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. > > And you > > > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all > > the > > > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^ > > > Please review your analysis. > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye > > <yuyutsu@v...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan, > > > > > > > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63 > > born. Many > > > 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > > > > > > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing > > difficulties > > > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets > > bringing in > > > forced transformations in our life. > > > > > > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in > > 2004 this > > > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight > > conjunction > > > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some > or > > the > > > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit > to > > this > > > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines > > my > > > earlier statements. > > > > > > > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC > > till 2007 > > > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some > > more > > > time. > > > > > > > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus > > which > > > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In > > addtion > > > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give > > constant urge > > > to dominate others. > > > > > > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review > > your > > > attitudes accdly... > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev Upadhye > > > > > > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. > > > > -- Lenny Bruce > > > > > > > > - > > > > simhan63 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM > > > > [vedic astrology] Please Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B. > > > > DOB is 28.8.1963 > > > > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m. > > > > Place of birth is Chennai > > > > Day of birth is Wednesday. > > > > > > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the > > strongest in > > > my > > > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth > > house > > > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's > > dasa! > > > > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion. > > > > > > > > My entire professional career upto now has not been > > satisfactory! > > > > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of > > job! I > > > could > > > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my > > embarassment, I > > > had > > > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who > > studied with > > > me > > > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt > > totally > > > ashamed > > > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me > > are well > > > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me! > > > > > > > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa > > atleast? > > > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004. > > > > > > > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in > > rescuing me > > > from > > > > this depressed state. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > > -------- > > > ---------- > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > > > b.. To from this group, send an email to: > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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