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Dear Partha,

 

a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same lable can be

applied to rest of the members of solar system.

 

b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house placement of pluto

to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is related to dominance.

 

c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic-astrologers

change their blinkered view of life.

 

d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western astrologers before

they were brought into astrological practice.

 

e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for Geocosmic Research in US.

 

Regards

 

Rajeev Upadhye

In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. --

Lenny Bruce

-

partha sarathy

Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

Dear Rajeev

 

Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years around the

sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can make a clan of people

dominating?

And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is Hamburg school

providing diplomas in astrology studies?

best wishes

partha

Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Partha,

 

I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have attributed Sun-Pluto

conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings

erratic and eccentric behavior, the other side of restlessness.

 

Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an acid test for

the individuals born in those years but the reasons may NOT be the same.

 

Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best remedy is available

is to make best choices in a given situation, remain level headed and to

discard our faiths and beliefs if the are hampering our growth...

 

What I have presented is sufficient to carry label of "analysis" in the Hamburg

School that I practice.

 

I hope this clarifies...

 

Rajeev Upadhye

 

 

 

In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. --

Lenny Bruce

-

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

Dear Rajeeva) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, going

through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!b) This outer planet

business fails me completely, it is very clear that Narasimhan's venus has lost

power, he is in 8th house, the yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing

its duty, he is in inimical house, so what kind of analysis are you presenting

here. PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just dont make any

sense?!@There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy. And you are

talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all the planets Uranus)

conjunction for dominance?$%^Please review your analysis. best wishespartha---

In vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> >

Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,> > I got curious to look into your chart since you

are 63 born. Many 63 born people recently underwent acid test. > > You have

mentioned that you have been experiencing difficulties since 3+ years. Its an

excelent example of outer planets bringing in forced transformations in our

life. > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in 2004 this

Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight conjunction with

Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or the other kind. This

is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to this complex in April 04 and later

half of 2004 which underlines my earlier statements.> > If we look ahead Saturn

and neptune lingering on you MC till 2007 will bring professional unstability

dissatisfaction for some more time.> > Natally you have a tight conjunction of

Sun and Uranus which brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In

addtion you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give constant urge to

dominate others. > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review

your attitudes accdly...> > > Rajeev Upadhye> > In the Halls of Justice the only

justice is in the halls.> -- Lenny Bruce> > ----- Original

Message ----- > simhan63 > vedic astrology >

Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM> [vedic astrology] Please

Help!> > > Om Namo Narayana> > Dear members> > I am Lakshminarasimhan,

V.B.> DOB is 28.8.1963> Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.> Place of birth is

Chennai> Day of birth is Wednesday.> > I am now going thru a horrible

period: Sun being the strongest in my > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and

is Lord of eighth house > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also

Sun's dasa!> Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.> > My entire

professional career upto now has not been satisfactory!> For the past 3+

years I'm not getting the right kind of job! I could > not stick on to the

job which I got! Much to my embarassment, I had > to attend reunion with my

class mates of college who studied with me > 20 years ago at the most

inappropriate moment! I felt totally ashamed > of myself when I came to know

that all of them except me are well > settled. Those embarassing moments

still haunt me!> > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa

atleast? > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.> > Kindly help me. Your

advice will go a long way in rescuing me from > this depressed state.> >

Regards> V.B.Lakshminarasimhan> > > > > Archives:

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Dear Rajeev

 

Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma.

I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic

astrology for some "insights" into life.

 

I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it

suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few

questions that made me think aloud.,

 

Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are

rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the

impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind,

 

There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you

could kindly spare some time

 

a) What are the various planets representing?

b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking

through a telescope, or does it signify anything else?

c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent?

d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work

done by western astrologer on the same?

e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could

provide some links, it would be useful.

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same

lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system.

>

> b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house

placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is

related to dominance.

>

> c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic-

astrologers change their blinkered view of life.

>

> d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western

astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice.

>

> e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for

Geocosmic Research in US.

>

> Regards

>

> Rajeev Upadhye

> In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> -- Lenny Bruce

>

> -

> partha sarathy

> Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology

> Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

>

>

> Dear Rajeev

>

> Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248 years

around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can

make a clan of people dominating?

> And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is

Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies?

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have

attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-

Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior,

the other side of restlessness.

>

> Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an

acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may

NOT be the same.

>

> Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best

remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation,

remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are

hampering our growth...

>

> What I have presented is sufficient to carry label

of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice.

>

> I hope this clarifies...

>

> Rajeev Upadhye

>

>

>

> In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> -- Lenny Bruce

>

> -

> V.Partha sarathy

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

>

>

> Dear Rajeev

>

> a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84,

going

> through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!

> b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is very

clear

> that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house,

the

> yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he

is in

> inimical house,

> so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO,

cheiron, and

> all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!@

> There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy.

And you

> are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all

the

> planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^

> Please review your analysis.

> best wishes

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye

<yuyutsu@v...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,

> >

> > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63

born. Many

> 63 born people recently underwent acid test.

> >

> > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing

difficulties

> since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets

bringing in

> forced transformations in our life.

> >

> > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in

2004 this

> Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight

conjunction

> with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some or

the

> other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit to

this

> complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines

my

> earlier statements.

> >

> > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC

till 2007

> will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some

more

> time.

> >

> > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus

which

> brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In

addtion

> you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give

constant urge

> to dominate others.

> >

> > If this is the source of your problems then you may review

your

> attitudes accdly...

> >

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye

> >

> > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > -- Lenny Bruce

> >

> > -

> > simhan63

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Please Help!

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Narayana

> >

> > Dear members

> >

> > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.

> > DOB is 28.8.1963

> > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.

> > Place of birth is Chennai

> > Day of birth is Wednesday.

> >

> > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the

strongest in

> my

> > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth

house

> > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's

dasa!

> > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.

> >

> > My entire professional career upto now has not been

satisfactory!

> > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of

job! I

> could

> > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my

embarassment, I

> had

> > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who

studied with

> me

> > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt

totally

> ashamed

> > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me

are well

> > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me!

> >

> > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa

atleast?

> > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.

> >

> > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in

rescuing me

> from

> > this depressed state.

> >

> > Regards

> > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

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Dear Partha,

 

You say -

"I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology

for some "insights" into life."

 

This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western astrologers are

open enough to look for insights into other systems but vedic astrologers do

not exhibit same openness about other systems.

 

You say -

"I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it suits them

quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few questions that made me

think aloud.,"

 

Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas and practices.

Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing special about it...

 

I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion - that is Mr.

Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to answer them.

 

I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western astrology, but one that

comes to my mind immediately is http://www.renaissanceastrology.com . You may

be interested in the works of Kepler, Lilly

 

 

Enjoy,

 

Rajeev Upadhye

 

In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls. --

Lenny Bruce

-

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

Dear RajeevThank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma. I

have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to vedic astrology

for some "insights" into life.I am not against the system practiced by western

astrologers as it suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have

a few questions that made me think aloud.,Vedic-astrology was not designed to

just understand how planets are rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it

designed to study the impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind,There

are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you could kindly spare

some timea) What are the various planets representing?b) What us Bha-chakra

basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking through a telescope, or does it

signify anything else?c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent?d)

How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work done by

western astrologer on the same?e) Are their any ancient works on western

astrology, if you could provide some links, it would be useful.best

wishesparthavedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye

<yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> Dear Partha,> > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor'

attached to pluto. The same lable can be applied to rest of the members of

solar system. > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house

placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is related to

dominance. > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if

vedic-astrologers change their blinkered view of life. > > d. Outer planets

have been studied extensively by western astrologers before they were brought

into astrological practice. > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is

National Council for Geocosmic Research in US. > > Regards > > Rajeev Upadhye >

In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.> --

Lenny Bruce> > - > partha sarathy > To:

Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 10,

2004 11:42 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev> >

> Dear Rajeev> > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for

248 years around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can

make a clan of people dominating?> And BTW what has hamburg to do with

vedic astrology? Or is Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies?>

best wishes> partha> > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:> Dear

Partha,> > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have attributed

Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-Uranus! Sun Uranus

normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior, the other side of restlessness.

> > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been an acid

test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons may NOT be the

same. > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best remedy

is available is to make best choices in a given situation, remain level headed

and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are hampering our growth...> >

What I have presented is sufficient to carry label of "analysis" in the Hamburg

School that I practice. > > I hope this clarifies...> > Rajeev Upadhye

> > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.>

-- Lenny Bruce> > - >

V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Sent:

Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Please

Help!-dear Rajeev> > > Dear Rajeev> > a) I have seen people born in

71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84, going > through acid test recently, so what

does it prove?!> b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is

very clear > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house,

the > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he is in >

inimical house, > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here.

PLUTO, cheiron, and > all kind of planets in our system just dont make

any sense?!@> There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy.

And you > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all

the > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^> Please review

your analysis. > best wishes> partha> > --- In

vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> > wrote:>

> > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,> > > > I got curious to

look into your chart since you are 63 born. Many > 63 born people

recently underwent acid test. > > > > You have mentioned that you

have been experiencing difficulties > since 3+ years. Its an excelent

example of outer planets bringing in > forced transformations in our

life. > > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn

and in 2004 this > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows

tight conjunction > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of

some or the > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit

to this > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines my

> earlier statements.> > > > If we look ahead Saturn and

neptune lingering on you MC till 2007 > will bring professional

unstability dissatisfaction for some more > time.> > > >

Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus which > brings

restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In addtion > you have a

natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give constant urge > to dominate

others. > > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may

review your > attitudes accdly...> > > > > > Rajeev

Upadhye> > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the

halls.> > -- Lenny Bruce> > > > -----

Original Message ----- > > simhan63 > > To:

vedic astrology > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00

PM> > [vedic astrology] Please Help!> > > > >

> Om Namo Narayana> > > > Dear members> > > > I

am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.> > DOB is 28.8.1963> > Time of birth

is 4.17 p.m.> > Place of birth is Chennai> > Day of birth is

Wednesday.> > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun

being the strongest in > my > > horoscope (shadbala is highest)

and is Lord of eighth house > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running

dasa is also Sun's dasa!> > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.>

> > > My entire professional career upto now has not been

satisfactory!> > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind

of job! I > could > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much

to my embarassment, I > had > > to attend reunion with my class

mates of college who studied with > me > > 20 years ago at the

most inappropriate moment! I felt totally > ashamed > > of myself

when I came to know that all of them except me are well > > settled.

Those embarassing moments still haunt me!> > > > Is there any

scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa atleast? > > Moon's dasa

starts on 16th June '2004.> > > > Kindly help me. Your advice

will go a long way in rescuing me > from > > this depressed

state.> > > > Regards> > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan> > >

> > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > > > Group info:

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Dear Partha,

 

This is probably my last mail to you unless you bring up meaningfull

discussion.

 

You say - "This outer planet business fails me completely," and also

say "PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just dont

make any sense?!@"

 

Comapre the above two statements with your latest statement - "I have

learnt all the systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology,

Western astrology etc etc.".

 

With your miserable reading of my mails I doubt wheather you have

learnt anything at all. You are asking me why I am not answering your

questions? SHould anyone take trouble to answer if someone makes such

contradictiory statements.

 

Regarding my "openness" to vedic astrology - I am willing to learn

from a vedic astrologer with total humble attitude who will give me a

single correct prediction about my future. All of them have failed

miserably in the past... given a chance I would find a tallest tree

and hang them together.

 

Rajeev Upadhye

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, partha sarathy <partvinu5

> wrote:

> Dear Rajeev

>

> Thanks for the website , i shall look into it. I have learnt all the

systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, Western astrology

etc etc.

> I have dwelled into all, and i have come to conclusion, that

vedic astrology is the best from a spiritual standpoint.

> I fail to understand why you are not attempting the questions,

probably you are not "open" to vedic astrology?

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> You say -

> "I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to

vedic astrology for some "insights" into life."

>

> This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western

astrologers are open enough to look for insights into other systems

but vedic astrologers do not exhibit same openness about other

systems.

>

> You say -

> "I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it

> suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few

> questions that made me think aloud.,"

>

> Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas

and practices. Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing

special about it...

>

> I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion -

that is Mr. Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to answer

them.

>

> I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western astrology,

but one that comes to my mind immediately is http://www.

renaissanceastrology.com . You may be interested in the works of

Kepler, Lilly

>

>

> Enjoy,

>

> Rajeev Upadhye

>

> In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> -- Lenny Bruce

>

> -

> V.Partha sarathy

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

>

>

> Dear Rajeev

>

> Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma.

> I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to

vedic

> astrology for some "insights" into life.

>

> I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as it

> suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a few

> questions that made me think aloud.,

>

> Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets are

> rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study the

> impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind,

>

> There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if you

> could kindly spare some time

>

> a) What are the various planets representing?

> b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for looking

> through a telescope, or does it signify anything else?

> c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent?

> d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the work

> done by western astrologer on the same?

> e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could

> provide some links, it would be useful.

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...

>

> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The same

> lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system.

> >

> > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house

> placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that is

> related to dominance.

> >

> > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if vedic-

> astrologers change their blinkered view of life.

> >

> > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western

> astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice.

> >

> > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council for

> Geocosmic Research in US.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye

> > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > -- Lenny Bruce

> >

> > -

> > partha sarathy

> > Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248

years

> around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years, can

> make a clan of people dominating?

> > And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is

> Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies?

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have

> attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-

> Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric behavior,

> the other side of restlessness.

> >

> > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have been

an

> acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons

may

> NOT be the same.

> >

> > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best

> remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation,

> remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the are

> hampering our growth...

> >

> > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label

> of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice.

> >

> > I hope this clarifies...

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye

> >

> >

> >

> > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > -- Lenny Bruce

> >

> > -

> > V.Partha sarathy

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84,

> going

> > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!

> > b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is

very

> clear

> > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th house,

> the

> > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty, he

> is in

> > inimical house,

> > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO,

> cheiron, and

> > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any sense?!

@

> > There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any remedy.

> And you

> > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of all

> the

> > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^

> > Please review your analysis.

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye

> <yuyutsu@v...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,

> > >

> > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63

> born. Many

> > 63 born people recently underwent acid test.

> > >

> > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing

> difficulties

> > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets

> bringing in

> > forced transformations in our life.

> > >

> > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and in

> 2004 this

> > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight

> conjunction

> > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of some

or

> the

> > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's transit

to

> this

> > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which underlines

> my

> > earlier statements.

> > >

> > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC

> till 2007

> > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for some

> more

> > time.

> > >

> > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus

> which

> > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences. In

> addtion

> > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give

> constant urge

> > to dominate others.

> > >

> > > If this is the source of your problems then you may review

> your

> > attitudes accdly...

> > >

> > >

> > > Rajeev Upadhye

> > >

> > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > > -- Lenny Bruce

> > >

> > > -

> > > simhan63

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Please Help!

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Namo Narayana

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > >

> > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.

> > > DOB is 28.8.1963

> > > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.

> > > Place of birth is Chennai

> > > Day of birth is Wednesday.

> > >

> > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the

> strongest in

> > my

> > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth

> house

> > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also Sun's

> dasa!

> > > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.

> > >

> > > My entire professional career upto now has not been

> satisfactory!

> > > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind of

> job! I

> > could

> > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my

> embarassment, I

> > had

> > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who

> studied with

> > me

> > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt

> totally

> > ashamed

> > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except me

> are well

> > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me!

> > >

> > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's dasa

> atleast?

> > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.

> > >

> > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in

> rescuing me

> > from

> > > this depressed state.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Rajeev

 

I had clearly stated that I "understand" western astrology, and also

stated that i regard vedic astrology as a better tool from a

spiritual standpoint. I guess you are not reading my mails correctly.

I dont make contradictory statements. I said i "learnt" all the

systems, i never said that i prefer them over vedic astrology. Infact

i was very clear and unambigious over my choice of vedic astrology.

The reason why i mentioned that i learnt this systems, was due to

my "openness" to experiement with all techniques. i have learnt

strangest of techniques from different systems. but none of them gave

me as much spiritual insight as Vedic-astrology. This clarifies your

doubts i suppose.

The reason why you are dismissing vedic astrology is due to

your "personal bias". You had experienced some negative responses

from some vedic-astrologers, and dismissed the entire vedic astrology

system!!!

I dont get any pleasure or delight in discussing or proving the

superiority of one system over another. For me subject, and the

process is more important than personal prejudices, and experiences

with a few people.

ANd this is my last mail on this thread, as i dont want to expend my

energies over these issues which are always debated for eternity. If

you are open to learn vedic astrology, then you can explore "your own

self-that needs to be tapped".

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "yuyutsu2000" <yuyutsu@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> This is probably my last mail to you unless you bring up

meaningfull

> discussion.

>

> You say - "This outer planet business fails me completely," and

also

> say "PLUTO, cheiron, and all kind of planets in our system just

dont

> make any sense?!@"

>

> Comapre the above two statements with your latest statement - "I

have

> learnt all the systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology,

> Western astrology etc etc.".

>

> With your miserable reading of my mails I doubt wheather you have

> learnt anything at all. You are asking me why I am not answering

your

> questions? SHould anyone take trouble to answer if someone makes

such

> contradictiory statements.

>

> Regarding my "openness" to vedic astrology - I am willing to learn

> from a vedic astrologer with total humble attitude who will give me

a

> single correct prediction about my future. All of them have failed

> miserably in the past... given a chance I would find a tallest tree

> and hang them together.

>

> Rajeev Upadhye

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, partha sarathy

<partvinu5

> > wrote:

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > Thanks for the website , i shall look into it. I have learnt all

the

> systems, infact i undersatnd KP, Systems astrology, Western

astrology

> etc etc.

> > I have dwelled into all, and i have come to conclusion, that

> vedic astrology is the best from a spiritual standpoint.

> > I fail to understand why you are not attempting the questions,

> probably you are not "open" to vedic astrology?

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > You say -

> > "I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to

> vedic astrology for some "insights" into life."

> >

> > This is exactly what I want to stress - interestingly western

> astrologers are open enough to look for insights into other systems

> but vedic astrologers do not exhibit same openness about other

> systems.

> >

> > You say -

> > "I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as

it

> > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a

few

> > questions that made me think aloud.,"

> >

> > Every (ancient) culture on this planet has its own spritual ideas

> and practices. Vedic culture is just one of them. There is nothing

> special about it...

> >

> > I find your questions irrelvant to our basic point of discussion -

 

> that is Mr. Laxmi Narayan's chart and dont find it necessary to

answer

> them.

> >

> > I will be happy to provide you links on ancient western

astrology,

> but one that comes to my mind immediately is http://www.

> renaissanceastrology.com . You may be interested in the works of

> Kepler, Lilly

> >

> >

> > Enjoy,

> >

> > Rajeev Upadhye

> >

> > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > -- Lenny Bruce

> >

> > -

> > V.Partha sarathy

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > Thank you for kindly giving the information on getting a diploma.

> > I have quite a few western astrology friends who have turned to

> vedic

> > astrology for some "insights" into life.

> >

> > I am not against the system practiced by western astrologers as

it

> > suits them quite well. But from a spiritual standpoint i have a

few

> > questions that made me think aloud.,

> >

> > Vedic-astrology was not designed to just understand how planets

are

> > rotating or revolving around sun, nor was it designed to study

the

> > impact of a meteorite, or a pluto on the Human mind,

> >

> > There are some valid questions that i would like to ask you if

you

> > could kindly spare some time

> >

> > a) What are the various planets representing?

> > b) What us Bha-chakra basically?, is it a zodiac mapped for

looking

> > through a telescope, or does it signify anything else?

> > c) What are the Dwadasa Adityas basically represent?

> > d) How many planes of consciousness are there, and what is the

work

> > done by western astrologer on the same?

> > e) Are their any ancient works on western astrology, if you could

> > provide some links, it would be useful.

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye

<yuyutsu@v...

> >

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Partha,

> > >

> > > a. I dont undertsnad the label 'poor' attached to pluto. The

same

> > lable can be applied to rest of the members of solar system.

> > >

> > > b. Again you you are mistaken - I have not associated house

> > placement of pluto to dominance. IT IS SUN-PLUTO COMBINATION that

is

> > related to dominance.

> > >

> > > c. Hamburg School has a lot to offere to vedic astrology if

vedic-

> > astrologers change their blinkered view of life.

> > >

> > > d. Outer planets have been studied extensively by western

> > astrologers before they were brought into astrological practice.

> > >

> > > e. The best place for diploma in astrology is National Council

for

> > Geocosmic Research in US.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Rajeev Upadhye

> > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > > -- Lenny Bruce

> > >

> > > -

> > > partha sarathy

> > > Rajeev Upadhye ; vedic astrology

> > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rajeev

> > >

> > > Ok, so it was sun-pluto. Poor Pluto who is orbiting for 248

> years

> > around the sun, who stays in a house for some countless years,

can

> > make a clan of people dominating?

> > > And BTW what has hamburg to do with vedic astrology? Or is

> > Hamburg school providing diplomas in astrology studies?

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > >

> > > Rajeev Upadhye <yuyutsu@v...> wrote:

> > > Dear Partha,

> > >

> > > I think my mssg is not read correctly by you. I have

> > attributed Sun-Pluto conjunction (wide) to dominance and not Sun-

> > Uranus! Sun Uranus normally brings erratic and eccentric

behavior,

> > the other side of restlessness.

> > >

> > > Regarding the years you have mentioned - there may have

been

> an

> > acid test for the individuals born in those years but the reasons

> may

> > NOT be the same.

> > >

> > > Personally, I dont believe in remedial measures. Only best

> > remedy is available is to make best choices in a given situation,

> > remain level headed and to discard our faiths and beliefs if the

are

> > hampering our growth...

> > >

> > > What I have presented is sufficient to carry label

> > of "analysis" in the Hamburg School that I practice.

> > >

> > > I hope this clarifies...

> > >

> > > Rajeev Upadhye

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the halls.

> > > -- Lenny Bruce

> > >

> > > -

> > > V.Partha sarathy

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:15 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Help!-dear Rajeev

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rajeev

> > >

> > > a) I have seen people born in 71,72,73,74,75,76,82,83,84,

> > going

> > > through acid test recently, so what does it prove?!

> > > b) This outer planet business fails me completely, it is

> very

> > clear

> > > that Narasimhan's venus has lost power, he is in 8th

house,

> > the

> > > yogakaraka for makara lagna has not been doing its duty,

he

> > is in

> > > inimical house,

> > > so what kind of analysis are you presenting here. PLUTO,

> > cheiron, and

> > > all kind of planets in our system just dont make any

sense?!

> @

> > > There is neither an analysis on your part, nor any

remedy.

> > And you

> > > are talking about attitude problem due to sun-(Uranus-of

all

> > the

> > > planets Uranus) conjunction for dominance?$%^

> > > Please review your analysis.

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Upadhye

> > <yuyutsu@v...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Laxmi narsimhan,

> > > >

> > > > I got curious to look into your chart since you are 63

> > born. Many

> > > 63 born people recently underwent acid test.

> > > >

> > > > You have mentioned that you have been experiencing

> > difficulties

> > > since 3+ years. Its an excelent example of outer planets

> > bringing in

> > > forced transformations in our life.

> > > >

> > > > In 2000 transiting Uranus passed over natal Saturn and

in

> > 2004 this

> > > Uranus is activationg natal Sun complex which shows tight

> > conjunction

> > > with Uranus indicating injury, accident or surgery of

some

> or

> > the

> > > other kind. This is further emphasized by Saturn's

transit

> to

> > this

> > > complex in April 04 and later half of 2004 which

underlines

> > my

> > > earlier statements.

> > > >

> > > > If we look ahead Saturn and neptune lingering on you MC

> > till 2007

> > > will bring professional unstability dissatisfaction for

some

> > more

> > > time.

> > > >

> > > > Natally you have a tight conjunction of Sun and Uranus

> > which

> > > brings restlessness and frequent uprroting experiences.

In

> > addtion

> > > you have a natal Sun Pluto wide conjunction which give

> > constant urge

> > > to dominate others.

> > > >

> > > > If this is the source of your problems then you may

review

> > your

> > > attitudes accdly...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rajeev Upadhye

> > > >

> > > > In the Halls of Justice the only justice is in the

halls.

> > > > -- Lenny Bruce

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > simhan63

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Monday, March 08, 2004 2:00 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Please Help!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Om Namo Narayana

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > I am Lakshminarasimhan, V.B.

> > > > DOB is 28.8.1963

> > > > Time of birth is 4.17 p.m.

> > > > Place of birth is Chennai

> > > > Day of birth is Wednesday.

> > > >

> > > > I am now going thru a horrible period: Sun being the

> > strongest in

> > > my

> > > > horoscope (shadbala is highest) and is Lord of eighth

> > house

> > > > (Ashtamadipathi). Currently running dasa is also

Sun's

> > dasa!

> > > > Venus in my horoscope is under combustion.

> > > >

> > > > My entire professional career upto now has not been

> > satisfactory!

> > > > For the past 3+ years I'm not getting the right kind

of

> > job! I

> > > could

> > > > not stick on to the job which I got! Much to my

> > embarassment, I

> > > had

> > > > to attend reunion with my class mates of college who

> > studied with

> > > me

> > > > 20 years ago at the most inappropriate moment! I felt

> > totally

> > > ashamed

> > > > of myself when I came to know that all of them except

me

> > are well

> > > > settled. Those embarassing moments still haunt me!

> > > >

> > > > Is there any scope for my career to grow in Moon's

dasa

> > atleast?

> > > > Moon's dasa starts on 16th June '2004.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly help me. Your advice will go a long way in

> > rescuing me

> > > from

> > > > this depressed state.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > V.B.Lakshminarasimhan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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