to missing pictures - From 'LAM' to 'OM' -NarasimhaRao ji

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Dear Narasimha Raoji

 

The link was good.The sounds of chakras gave a very special feeling

while listening.

 

I have one doubt.Till this time i was thinking 'OM' was the adhara

or the beginning of all and hence it starts from the bottom region

of the vertebral column and then rises upwards.

 

In the link OM is connected to Sahsrara chakra.And LAM is connected

to Mooladhara.So does this mean it has to be understood in a

different fashion.The inverted tree phenomenon - ie we are part of a

big inverted tree having roots up in the heaven -has any relevance

here? Are the Chakras to be inverted or understood differently in a

relative fashion?Because then what we think as top and bottom and

hence the flow of energy gets reverted.Could you kindly throw some

light.Other Gurujis may pls help.

 

Another interesting factor was there was no age associated with Ajna

and Sahasrara Chakras!Supreme bliss is free of any bonds!

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste friends,

>

> The two pictures in my article are missing, when the mail showed

up on .

>

> I uploaded the two pictures as small gif files to

>

> vedic astrologyChakras/

>

> You can go to the abovce link in your browser and check out the

two pictures.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste all,

> >

> > Before I start, a learned friend said she did not know the

Sanskrit names of chakras and asked me for a definition of chakras.

She and others in the same situation may kindly check out

> >

> >

http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/seven_chakras.htm

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > What Bepin Behari and Subba Row apparently gave seems to be the

most popular version on the internet. Most sites seem to associate

Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn with the 7

chakras (from sahasrara to mooladhara).

> >

> > Well, the motivation must be as given by Chendrashekhar ji. But

this approach has loopholes.

> >

> > If it is based on the distance from Sun, why is ajna chakra

given to Moon? Mercury is closer to Sun than Moon. Why not give ajna

to Mercury, Visuddhi to Venus and Anahata to Moon? So it is not

exactly based on distance from Sun.

> >

> > Basically, this approach (of Behari and others) is based on

seeing ajna and sahasrara chakra from Cancer and Leo (which do not

have Ida and Pingala - female and male nadis - but have only one

nadi) and seeing the 2 nadis of other five chakras from the signs

Cp, Sg, Sc, Li and Vi or Aq, Pi, Ae, Ta and Ge (bisect the zodiac

and assign two signs owned by the same planet to one chakra). This

corresponds to Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus and Mercury for

Mooladhara, ..., Visuddha.

> >

> > I am showing their approach pictorially below:

> >

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > But the five non-luminary planets represent the five tattwas.

When we give importance to physical distance, the tattvas get

reversed (and they get messed up in the case of Saturn and Jupiter.

It is not just reversal). For example, Mooladhara chakra is said to

represent earthy nature (bhoo tattva), but Mercury (planet of bhoo

tattva) is being given to Visuddha chakra above. Swadhishthana

chakra is said to represent watery nature (jala tattva), but Venus

(planet of jala tattva) is being given to Anahata. Why this reversal?

> >

> > This reversal is coming from the fact that we are counting from

Mooladhara to Sahasrara. However, in all religious rituals involving

chakras, the natural order of invoking the chakras is different. It

is

> >

> > Visuddha, Anahata, Manipoora, Swadhishthana, Mooladhara, Ajna,

Sahasrara

> >

> > This is the natural order of invoking chakras as per rituals.

Even when chakras are mentioned in Lalita sahasra nama stotram, this

is the order in which they are mentioned! So the order used by most

authors is wrong.

> >

> > Also, you may note that Sg, Cp, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn are night-

strong signs according to Parasara and taken in Moon's hora in

Kashinatha Hora chart. Similarly, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Aq and Pi are day-

strong signs according to Parasara and taken in Sun's hora in

Kashinatha hora. This discontinuity is said to be due to a "Brahma

sutra" involvind Jupiter and Saturn (I don't understand it quite

well, but this discontinuity is a fact as per Parasara's

classification of signs into day-strong and night-strong ones).

> >

> > But these authors end up getting Aq, Pi, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn for

Ida (female/Moon hora) and others for Pingala (male/Sun hora). This

is incorrect for the signs owned by Saturn and Jupiter! Thus, the

above picture does not obey Parasara's classification of day-strong

and night-strong signs!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > My approach is very similar to that of others, but differs in

two key aspects: (1) I put the night-strong signs together in one

half and day-strong signs together in the other half and assign them

to Ida and Pingala nadis (i.e. obey the Brahma sutra), (2) I take

the natural order of chakras as used in religious rituals and not

based on any physical order.

> >

> > With this approach, I get Mercury for Mooladhara chakra, which

shows bhoo tattva, Venus for Swadhshthana chakra, which shows jala

tattva, and so on. Even airy and ethery tattvas fall in place!!

> >

> > To those who haven't yet got it, the following picture should

make it clear:

> >

> >

> > With this, you can see that

> >

> > (1) the Pingala nadi side has all the day-strong signs and Ida

nadi side has all the night-strong signs

> > (2) the order of the chakras is in the natural order of

invocation in Hindu rituals.

> > (3) the tattvas fall in place. For example, visuddha chakra has

ether (Jupiter), anahata chakra has air (Saturn) and so on.

> >

> > Thus, everything falls in place beautifully. I sincerely believe

that this is the correct approach and the other approach is based on

faulty logic. I cannot accept the list given by Bepin Behari.

> >

> > However, I have no problem with a different list given by Sri

Harish Johari. It makes perfect sense, when you visualize the form

of the Divine Mother in various chakras and her spiritual blessings.

In fact, I have given four lists assigning various aspects of

chakras to planets. The classification in the picture above is only

one of the four! Please read the previous mails if you haven't done

so already.

> >

> > Disclaimer: I have done a lot of reading and thinking on this

matter, but I am certainly not an expert. So use your own discretion

when getting influenced! ;-)

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > > Dear Gili,

> > > Well it appears I am not alone in this line of thinking.

Thanks for the

> > > info.

> > > Love,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Gili Mary [xapsarax@h...]

> > > Friday, December 05, 2003 5:50 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Spiritual Chakras and

Planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > Both T.Subba Row and Bepin Behari suggest this too. As I

posted before,

> > > it

> > > seems so simple and so tidy that it 'feels' right to me but

I am just an

> > > inexperienced novice in this field.

> > > Love,

> > > Gili

> > >

> > > >Dear Narasimha,

> > > >I am not much in to religion interpretation per-se. But

since there is an

> > > >ongoing attempt to relate Chakras to Planet karakatwa,

would you check up

> > > >the following and let me know whether this logic can be

applied to

> > > >Chakra-Karaka relationship?

> > > >I think the Karakatwas could relate from Sun to Saturn in

descending

> > > order

> > > >depending distance of planets from Sun, from Saharara to

Mooladhara as

> > > the

> > > >locations relate to the planets in question. I may be

completely off the

> > > >track,but could you check up.

> > > >Regards,

> > > >Chandrashekhar.