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|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Mahesh,

 

Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu

and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination.

It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall

be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or

aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted

or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any

chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that

benefic to get some relief.

 

About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their

influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors

mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although

after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.

 

Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

bcitus

vedic astrology

Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM

[vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.

Dear Members and Gurujis, In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun

oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th

house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth

house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5thJust

isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth

house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. Also the

sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both

inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya

chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the

person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. In

general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like

convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun

weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the

native??Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. Best Wishes and

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Dear Sarajit.

Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one

justify the following factors then.

 

1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful.

2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries

acedent)

3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in

gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any

aspect or affliction.

4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the

rays of mercury strong.

5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer

is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu.

6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength

and power.

 

7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature.

8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a

first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot

afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun.

However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed

by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool

trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in

cancer.

 

 

Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I

think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in

the 6th house.

 

NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th

house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being

placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu

in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such

things.

 

Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my

question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in

the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than

against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters

would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??

 

Thanks and looking foward to ur response

Mahesh

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Mahesh,

>

> Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by

Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this

combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the

areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the

fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is

afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer.

By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that

benefic to get some relief.

>

> About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and

their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors

mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although

after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.

>

> Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

> -

> bcitus

> vedic astrology

> Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM

> [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.

>

>

> Dear Members and Gurujis,

> In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house

along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in

the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga

with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th

>

> Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the

fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native.

>

> Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury

are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun

gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional

life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th

house.

>

> In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold

(like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun

weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native??

>

> Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated.

>

> Best Wishes and Namaste to all

> Mahesh

>

>

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Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy

spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in

regards to health, proffession and wealth.

 

6 aug 1980

12:03am

bombay

 

regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter

 

Thanks again and warms wishes

Mahesh

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Mahesh,

>

> In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on

the factors you mentioned are below the queries:

>

> -

> planck12

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

>

>

> Dear Sarajit.

> Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can

one justify the following factors then.

>

> 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful.

> [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well.

>

> 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries

acedent)

>

> [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to

eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord

shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs.

>

> 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in

gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any

aspect or affliction.

>

> [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of

the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural

significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in

pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse.

>

> 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps

the rays of mercury strong.

>

> [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed

Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More

to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with.

So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury-

Sun or Mercury- Rahu.

>

> 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in

cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu.

>

> [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer.

>

> 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more

strength and power.

>

> [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.

>

> 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature.

> [sP] The house is saved from further destruction.

>

> 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and

a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot

afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun.

However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed

by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool

trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in

cancer.

>

> [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a

yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars.

However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not

give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two

trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas

break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is

concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of

Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other

association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things

from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the

affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the

vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings

and there shall be relief thereafter.

>

> Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I

think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in

the 6th house.

>

> [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth

house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.

>

> NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th

house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being

placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu

in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such

things.

>

> [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More

to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house.

Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's

placement in the 4th.

>

> Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my

question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in

the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than

against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters

would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??

>

> [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and

Moon would help fulfilling the significations.

>

> Thanks and looking foward to ur response

> Mahesh

>

> You are most welcome.

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > Dear Mahesh,

> >

> > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun

by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this

combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the

areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the

fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is

afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer.

By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that

benefic to get some relief.

> >

> > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and

their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors

mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although

after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.

> >

> > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sarajit

> > -

> > bcitus

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> >

> >

> > Dear Members and Gurujis,

> > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house

along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in

the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga

with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th

> >

> > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the

fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native.

> >

> > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and

mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and

Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the

proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting

the 10th house.

> >

> > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would

unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status

of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the

native??

> >

> > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated.

> >

> > Best Wishes and Namaste to all

> > Mahesh

> >

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

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Dear Sarajitji,

Thank you for the quick response. Seems true in the case of native however the

native is young at this point so I cannot comment much but seems true as I

mentioned.

 

Also one more thing I had asked and is pretty crucial if u can respond on this

too would be really appreciate.

 

Q. How would the native fair healthwise with malefics in 6th, and other

combination. Will the native have a normal health life or will he be married by

dieases and if so wot kind of diseases??

 

Appreciative of your time and effort

Mahesh

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannat ||

> Dear Mahesh,

>

> Here is my response:

>

> +--------------+

> | |As GL |Mo |Ve |

> | | |A6 | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Md AL | |Su Me |

> | | |Ra |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> |Ke HL | |Ju |

> |Gk | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> | | | |Ma Sa |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> +--------------+

> |Ra |HL GL | |Mo |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> | | |Ma Me |

> | | |Gk |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Navamsa |-----------|

> |Sa | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although

Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win

over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a

known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition,

it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's

presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity.

The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and

deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas

Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows

involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations.

>

> Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting

each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in

the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is

the best course of action.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

-

> planck12

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

>

>

> Dear Sarajit,

> Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can

possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope.

Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth.

>

> 6 aug 1980

> 12:03am

> bombay

>

> regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter

>

> Thanks again and warms wishes

> Mahesh

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > Dear Mahesh,

> >

> > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views

on the factors you mentioned are below the queries:

> >

> > -

> > planck12

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> >

> >

> > Dear Sarajit.

> > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How

can one justify the following factors then.

> >

> > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it

powerful.

> > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well.

> >

> > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus

(aries acedent)

> >

> > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due

to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord

shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs.

> >

> > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus

in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without

any aspect or affliction.

> >

> > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one

of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural

significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in

pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse.

> >

> > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and

keeps the rays of mercury strong.

> >

> > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with

eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does

suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its

associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results...

watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu.

> >

> > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu

in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu.

> >

> > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer.

> >

> > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more

strength and power.

> >

> > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.

> >

> > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature.

> > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction.

> >

> > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent

and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury

cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to

sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is

strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered

a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed

in cancer.

> >

> > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a

yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars.

However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not

give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two

trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas

break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is

concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of

Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other

association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things

from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the

affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the

vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings

and there shall be relief thereafter.

> >

> > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query

apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and

ploaced in the 6th house.

> >

> > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth

house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.

> >

> > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the

4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu

being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having

rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and

such things.

> >

> > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th.

More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the

house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only

Rahu's placement in the 4th.

> >

> > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though

my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and

in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than

against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters

would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??

> >

> > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter

and Moon would help fulfilling the significations.

> >

> > Thanks and looking foward to ur response

> > Mahesh

> >

> > You are most welcome.

> > Best Wishes

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > > Dear Mahesh,

> > >

> > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of

Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this

combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the

areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the

fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is

afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer.

By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that

benefic to get some relief.

> > >

> > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars

and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt

factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled,

although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.

> > >

> > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sarajit

> > > -

> > > bcitus

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members and Gurujis,

> > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th

house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is

exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba

kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th

> > >

> > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of

the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native.

> > >

> > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and

mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and

Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the

proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting

the 10th house.

> > >

> > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would

unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status

of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the

native??

> > >

> > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated.

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Dear Sarajit,

Thank U once again for the response. I dont follow a few things, U have

mentioned about Venus aspecting the 6th house combo of mars and saturn. How can

this be possibly?? Venus is in the third house and only aspects the 9th house

with its sevent aspect. So basically there are no aspects on the 6th house.

 

Also u said the lord of 8th house (which is mars) is placed in the 6th house

with its worst enemies. But how can that be?? Saturn is netural to mars isnt it.

So basically saturn is not causing any troubles to mars. It is mars however that

causes trouble to saturn. So how can mars be troubled by saturn.

 

In addition mars is placed in the nakshtra of hasta whose ruler is moon which is

exhlated. And the dispositor of the sixth house (which is ofcouse inmical to

mars but friendly to saturn) is placed in 4th house in vargottama.

 

So how do the above factors affect health? Since after all the most prominent

affects in a chart are repreated over and again without any cancelling effects.

So basically dont the ill effects in the above case cancel out because of the

reasons mentioned above.

 

Best Wishes

Mahesh

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Mahesh,

>

> The 8th lord, the ruler of congenital defects is placed in the 6th house with

one of its worst enemies. This is not condusive of health and the the body parts

ruled by Virgo, i.e. Lower abdomen area is likely to suffer. As Saturn is the

badhaka in the chart placed in the 6th house, the source of the trouble could be

some kind of black-magic stemming out of enemity. Along with this, the 6th lord

is placed with the 5th lord in 4th house, the native might suffer from some kind

of heart weaknesses, stemming out of excessive stress and tensions.

>

> The remedies are the aspect of Venus on the 6th house combination and

subhakartati yoga of the 4th house. So the native chance of recovery too.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

> -

> planck12

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:05 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

>

>

> Dear Sarajitji,

> Thank you for the quick response. Seems true in the case of native however

the native is young at this point so I cannot comment much but seems true as I

mentioned.

>

> Also one more thing I had asked and is pretty crucial if u can respond on

this too would be really appreciate.

>

> Q. How would the native fair healthwise with malefics in 6th, and other

combination. Will the native have a normal health life or will he be married by

dieases and if so wot kind of diseases??

>

> Appreciative of your time and effort

> Mahesh

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > || Jaya Jagannat ||

> > Dear Mahesh,

> >

> > Here is my response:

> >

> > +--------------+

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> > | | | | |

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> > | | | | |

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> > | | |Ra |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> > |Ke HL | |Ju |

> > |Gk | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > | | | |Ma Sa |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > +--------------+

> > |Ra |HL GL | |Mo |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > | | |Ma Me |

> > | | |Gk |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------| Navamsa |-----------|

> > |Sa | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > |Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house.

Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and

ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too.

This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed

in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn

and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems

from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e.,

Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own

house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These

all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations.

> >

> > Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for

fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is

placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding

fight is the best course of action.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > planck12

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> >

> >

> > Dear Sarajit,

> > Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can

possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope.

Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth.

> >

> > 6 aug 1980

> > 12:03am

> > bombay

> >

> > regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter

> >

> > Thanks again and warms wishes

> > Mahesh

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > > Dear Mahesh,

> > >

> > > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My

views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries:

> > >

> > > -

> > > planck12

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sarajit.

> > > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But

How can one justify the following factors then.

> > >

> > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it

powerful.

> > > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be

well.

> > >

> > > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus

(aries acedent)

> > >

> > > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness

due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th

lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs.

> > >

> > > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house

venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo

without any aspect or affliction.

> > >

> > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is

one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural

significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in

pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse.

> > >

> > > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and

keeps the rays of mercury strong.

> > >

> > > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with

eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does

suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its

associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results...

watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu.

> > >

> > > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That

Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu.

> > >

> > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer.

> > >

> > > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire

more strength and power.

> > >

> > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.

> > >

> > > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature.

> > > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction.

> > >

> > > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries

acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign.

Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is

simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu

too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books

considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred

friendly placed in cancer.

> > >

> > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a

yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars.

However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not

give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two

trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas

break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is

concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of

Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other

association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things

from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the

affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the

vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings

and there shall be relief thereafter.

> > >

> > > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query

apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and

ploaced in the 6th house.

> > >

> > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the

fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.

> > >

> > > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on

the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of

rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone

having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring

proprty and such things.

> > >

> > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in

4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with

the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not

only Rahu's placement in the 4th.

> > >

> > > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it.

Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it

cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth

house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house

matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??

> > >

> > > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus,

Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations.

> > >

> > > Thanks and looking foward to ur response

> > > Mahesh

> > >

> > > You are most welcome.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > > > Dear Mahesh,

> > > >

> > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse

of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this

combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the

areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the

fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is

afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer.

By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that

benefic to get some relief.

> > > >

> > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and

Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed

wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled,

although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.

> > > >

> > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a

lot.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Sarajit

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> > > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members and Gurujis,

> > > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the

4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is

exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba

kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th

> > > >

> > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the

matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for

the native.

> > > >

> > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu

and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and

Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the

proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting

the 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house

would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the

status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to

the native??

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