Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees)

> > over natal Moon

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the

> last

> > three

> > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad

> financial

> > phase

> > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in

> > positive

> > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have

been

> > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been

> > technically

> > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite

> > dramatically

> > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it

not

> a

> > fault

> > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).

> > >

> > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is

> exactly

> > over

> > > my natal moon now.

> > >

> > > My DOB

> > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)

> > > Time Of Birth

> > > 8:45 am (No DST)

> > > Place of birth

> > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT

> > > Latitude and Longitude

> > > 10.23 N

> > > 78.52 E

> > >

> > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Siva

> > >

>

> Sponsor

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

> SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

July 8, 2003

dear Hari,

well it was both good and bad. it was good because at the time, I

finally quit my full time job after years of dithering and

hesitation and started to write my book full time. it was a tough

decision as I had not saved that much by then to support myself. but

I was happy because quitting finally helped me concentrate on my own

writing instead of having to edit other people's writing

(especially, doing legal briefs night and day, day in and day out,

is a killer for any creativity). it was bad because of the same

reason, lack of finacial stability and uncertainty about the future.

thankfully, the book is almost done. but the hard part begins now:

i.e., selling it.

thank you very much for the responses!

rani.

vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> Dear Rani,

>

> As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your

> chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta

(being

> also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11

> Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book.

>

> If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then

probably

> there are other factors at work here.

>

> regards

> Hari

> vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> >

> > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember

> > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as

well.

> > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would

> > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is

> pisces

> > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready

> for

> > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right

> inside

> > yet another one :-( .

> >

> > rani.

July 8, 2003

dear Visti and Gurus,

I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of emails.

I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before!

on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK any

relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is

cancer and moon is in pisces.

thanks!

rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Rani,

> Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones

work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and

Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during

its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and

nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.

> The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are

different, but we consider them jointly.

> Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional

charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> raindancer_1998

> Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

> visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me

> before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me

about

> depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or

> less. though I am trying to work thru it.

>

> also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

addition

> to) sadesati?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear List,

> > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or

10th.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > onlyhari

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > Dear Rani,

> >

> > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is

your

> > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta

> (being

> > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you.

> 3/6/11

> > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's

book.

> >

> > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then

> probably

> > there are other factors at work here.

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

> > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > >

> > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> remember

> > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

as

> well.

> > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I

would

> > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi

is

> > pisces

> > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm

> ready

> > for

> > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm

right

> > inside

> > > yet another one :-( .

> > >

> > > rani.

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

>

> Sponsor

>

> Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

July 8, 2003

"Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional

charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits."

I am beginning to understand/realise why we all aim for nirvana.

rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Rani,

> Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones

work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and

Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during

its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and

nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.

> The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are

different, but we consider them jointly.

> Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional

charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> raindancer_1998

> Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

> visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me

> before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me

about

> depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or

> less. though I am trying to work thru it.

>

> also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

addition

> to) sadesati?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear List,

> > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or

10th.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > onlyhari

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > Dear Rani,

> >

> > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is

your

> > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta

> (being

> > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you.

> 3/6/11

> > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's

book.

> >

> > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then

> probably

> > there are other factors at work here.

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

> > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > >

> > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> remember

> > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

as

> well.

> > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I

would

> > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi

is

> > pisces

> > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm

> ready

> > for

> > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm

right

> > inside

> > > yet another one :-( .

> > >

> > > rani.

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

>

> Sponsor

>

> Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

July 8, 2003

dear JKda,

LOL. you're right. but i am thinking this is where chart strengths

come in right? ie if you have strong yogas that help you fight/deal

with this constant barrage of stress and pressure. and also,

mitigating factors like benefic planets in benefic houses that take

some of the stress away and help you relax and put up your feet for

a few moments.

rani.

vedic astrology, "j.k. dasgupta"

<dgassociates@s...> wrote:

> hi all,

>

> sadesati is for seven and half years and to be considered from

chandra rashi. but sat transit over asc and on kendras from asc., on

AL are also difficult. specially on AL except sadesati..other

transit effects are for two and half years only. besides sat transit

on 5th, 8th, 9th, 12th from moon are also not good.

>

> similar effects can be judged from varga charts also.

>

> it is hard to find a peacefull time (LOL)

>

> jk

> -

> raindancer_1998

> Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:58 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

> hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

>

> thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember

> Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as

well.

> but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would

> breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is

pisces

> and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready

for

> a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right

inside

> yet another one :-( .

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar

> <rajeswarishankar> wrote:

> > Dear Rani,

> >

> > It is considered to be from one's moon rasi.When saturn comes

yr

> previous rasi sade sati has started.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raji

> >

> > raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > dear Hari,

> >

> > I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered

from

> > moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also?

and

> can

> > it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too?

> >

> > if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have

sadesatis

> > going on ALL the time! yikes.

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "onlyhari"

> > wrote:

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Ognjen and Siva,

> > >

> > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is

> > generally

> > > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over

natal

> > > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and

> mental

> > > tensions.

> > >

> > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are

> > > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties

during

> the

> > > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in

Ge

> > > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from

> some

> > > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any

> > > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married

> during

> > > this period!

> > >

> > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful

while

> > the

> > > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the

factor to

> > be

> > > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn

with

> > > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected

> > within

> > > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati

usually

> > makes

> > > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very

> > > stressful because the native has by then developed the

> > > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this

> depends

> > > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is

running.

> > Again

> > > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a

double

> > > whammy!

> > >

> > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as

per

> > advice

> > > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated.

You

> may

> > > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere

> > worship

> > > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help

you

> > > greatly. Its all a matter of faith.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen"

> > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Siva,

> > > >

> > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the

same

> > > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and

some

> > > changes occur but I think that they are positive.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck.

> > > >

> > > > Ognjen

> > > > -

> > > > vijayuma

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees)

> > > over natal Moon

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in

the

> > last

> > > three

> > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad

> > financial

> > > phase

> > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always

moving in

> > > positive

> > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i

have

> been

> > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been

> > > technically

> > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite

> > > dramatically

> > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of

it

> not

> > a

> > > fault

> > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).

> > > >

> > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is

> > exactly

> > > over

> > > > my natal moon now.

> > > >

> > > > My DOB

> > > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)

> > > > Time Of Birth

> > > > 8:45 am (No DST)

> > > > Place of birth

> > > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT

> > > > Latitude and Longitude

> > > > 10.23 N

> > > > 78.52 E

> > > >

> > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Siva

> > > >

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

>

> Sponsor

>

> Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

July 8, 2003

dear Rao,

namaste. yes, this makes eminent sense!! I have felt this way for

the past almost seven years now. although, there have been times I

have made considerable positive progress. I am still trying to

figure out how shani as my atmakaraka figures into this equation.

rani.

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

<raonemani> wrote:

> Dear Rani,

>

> If I remember correctly once Sanjay Ji said about the Kantaka

Shani

> effect would be like a "Lion limping" during that period.

>

> I always tries to understand the Sanskrit meaning of these

definition

> first, so I would think , Kantaka means "Thorn" so what happens to

a

> native when he/she gets Thorn in the feet, the result could be

> walking slowly or limping, hence the "Kantaka Shani" meaning

matches

> with Sanjay ji' saying of "Lion Limping".

>

> It is only my little knowledge. Guru's may please correct me if I

am

> wrong.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me

> > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me

> about

> > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or

> > less. though I am trying to work thru it.

> >

> > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

addition

> > to) sadesati?

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear List,

> > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or

10th.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > onlyhari

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Rani,

> > >

> > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is

your

> > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta

> > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you.

> > 3/6/11

> > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's

book.

> > >

> > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then

> > probably

> > > there are other factors at work here.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > > >

> > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> > remember

> > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

as

> > well.

> > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I

would

> > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi

is

> > > pisces

> > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm

> > ready

> > > for

> > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm

right

> > > inside

> > > > yet another one :-( .

> > > >

> > > > rani.

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> > astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > Terms of

> > Service.

July 8, 2003

Dear Imran, thank you for this detailed post. it was very helpful.

but I still seem to have questions about what houses for what.

anyway, it seems that JKda is right, almost half the houses could be

affected at any given time either by sadesati or by kantaka shani.

many thanks.

rani.

vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran

<astroimran> wrote:

> Dear Hari,

> Namaste,

>

> Yes, there are lot of exceptions for Sade Sati. Just read the

follwoing mail on the the said topic.

> Message No. 23793

>

> Sade Sati is not always of 7 years and 6 months long, its all

depends on motion of Saturn (slow, fast, direct and retrograde etc.)

over 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal Moon. Though the aggregate average

makes seven and half years. Thus it is called the Sade-Sati i.e.

period of seven and half years.

> Now the question about whether the pivotal sign should either be

Natal Moon or Lagna? But there are various opinion on it. e.g. In SA

(system approach) transit is reckoned from natal lagna. Whereas some

experts not only take Natal Moon but also consider Natal Lagna for

delineating transit effects. Thus transit of Saturn behind, over and

ahead of Lagna is assmused identical to Sade Sati.

> In my humble opinion, transit should be reckoned from Moon, Lagna

and Sun as well *(if we want to judge 3-dimentional flow of cosmic

energy)*. As without this trinity (Lagna=Body, Moon=Mind and

Sun=Soul), no picture can be completed.

> Where the Transit from Natal Moon, yields general and apprent

effects, i.e. What you feel? These results are very clear, and

easily perceptible.

> Transit from Lagna shows results on physical plane, i.e. limited

to your physical self and generally not perceptible by others

instead they exist. While the Transit from Sun reveals inner and

spiritual conditions effected by planets in gochar. The results from

Sun are quite deeper and can not cast an impact on external pattern

of life.

> The profundity of transitary effects are directly propotional to

Ashtaka Varga (A.V). Thus without A.V. gochar can not be fully judge

at all. Another important fearture is vedh and latta.

> Now, I come to the point i.e. Sade Sati. There are some rules

(and some are my observations) regarding Sadi Sati and its effects.

> 1) If the Natal Moon is subjected to Kemadruma Yoga (formed when

Moon is not flanked by any planet, excluding Sun and nodes) without

cancellation then Sade-Sati yields adverse result. (why? due to

reserve and lonely nature "kemadurma yoga holders" usually have)

> 2) The effect of Sade Sati is inversly proportional to strength of

Saturn in natal chart. That is, if Saturn is strong in natal chart

then Sade Sati can't hit native, otherwise vice-versa holds good.

> 3) If Moon is into sign of Venus, i.e. either in Taurus or Libra

(because for Venusian signs Saturn becomes Yoga-Karaka) then Sade

Sati would also not very harmful. (B.V.Raman eloborated it in his

autobiography)

> 4) If Moon is enjoyed by Shubha Adi Yoga(flanked by natural

benefics) or Shubha Dhurdhura Yoga (benefics in 6th, 7th and 8th)

then also Sade Sati does not lead to meleficent, even may evolve

you.

> 5) If there is powerful planet in 10th from Moon in natal chart,

then the 1st phase of Sade Sati (i.e. saturn's transit in 12th) cant

be bad, similarly if there is strong benefic in 7th from Moon the

2nd phase of Sade Sati (i.e. in 1st) can not be bad, and if there

there is strong supporting planet in 4th from Moon then the last

phase of Sade Sati wont feel adverse.

> 6) The Sani-Paya (i.e. Murthi Rule; Silver, Gold, Copper and Iron

w.r.t beneficent effects respectively) are also seemed a parameter

to alter the intensity of Sade Sati. School of K.N.Rao believe this

works very well.

> 7) The rusult of Sade Sati is altered according to the strength of

Natal Moon, if Moon is afflicted due to association of Rahu or Mars,

combustion, or get lesser bindus in A.V. Because a weak Mind can't

survive and/or fight in hostile environment.

> 8) Finally the Dasanath may change the intensity of Sade Sati,

e.g. a powerful dasanath(specially strong yoga-karaka) curtails the

bad effect.

> 9) Sade Sati does not hit elder peoples (as saturn is naturally

eldest graha). In old age they generally brings forth diseases.

> 10) If first sade sati was bad then second will not so wrost. But

if first sade sati was favourable then second one may be

troublesome. In other words effects are cyclical or oscillatory.

> Regards

> IMRAN

>

> onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:

> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> Dear Ognjen and Siva,

>

> Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is

generally

> called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal

> moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental

> tensions.

>

> I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are

> exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the

> 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge

> (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some

> delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any

> difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during

> this period!

>

> My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while

the

> second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to

be

> considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with

> respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected

within

> the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually

makes

> the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very

> stressful because the native has by then developed the

> experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends

> to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running.

Again

> my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double

> whammy!

>

> respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per

advice

> of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may

> search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere

worship

> in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you

> greatly. Its all a matter of faith.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> vedic astrology, "Ognjen"

> <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:

> > Dear Siva,

> >

> > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same

> postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some

> changes occur but I think that they are positive.

> >

> > Good luck.

> >

> > Ognjen

> > -

> > vijayuma

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees)

> over natal Moon

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the

last

> three

> > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad

financial

> phase

> > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in

> positive

> > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been

> > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been

> technically

> > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite

> dramatically

> > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not

a

> fault

> > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).

> >

> > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is

exactly

> over

> > my natal moon now.

> >

> > My DOB

> > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)

> > Time Of Birth

> > 8:45 am (No DST)

> > Place of birth

> > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT

> > Latitude and Longitude

> > 10.23 N

> > 78.52 E

> >

> > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated

> >

> > Thanks

> > Siva

> >

>

> Sponsor

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

> SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

July 8, 2003

|Namah Shivaaya|Dear Rani,

Transiting planets will not express their functional tendencies, only their

natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the transiting planets

trigerring in our natal charts?Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS

99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

raindancer_1998

vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

dear Visti and Gurus, I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple

of emails. I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before! on the note of

Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK any relief? or is it even more

intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is cancer and moon is in pisces. thanks!rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant

obstacle in ones work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon

and Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during its

transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and nothing seems to be

going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.> The philosophies/basis of

Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are different, but we consider them jointly.>

Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional charts as well.

This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri

Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - >

raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology > Thursday,

July 03, 2003 10:36 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in degrees) over natal Moon> > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's

what you told me > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell

me about > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or >

less. though I am trying to work thru it. > > also, are kanataka shani's

effects separate from (and in addition > to) sadesati? > > rani.> > ---

In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear List,> > Has anyone forgot Kanataka

Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th.> > Best wishes> > Visti> > --->

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > >

onlyhari > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit

Saturn Exactly (in > degrees) over natal Moon> > > > > > ---Om

Brihaspataye Namah---> > Dear Rani,> > > > As much as I sympathize

with you, I must say that if Pi is your > > chandra lagna, then the gochar

3rd house transit of Sa in Ta > (being > > also the 11th from Cn

lagna)should have been good for you. > 3/6/11 > > Gochar transit of Sa is

considered good as per Narasimha's book.> > > > If this is not the case as

hinted emphatically by you, then > probably > > there are other factors at

work here. > > > > regards> > Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > >

<raindancer_1998> wrote:> > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > >

> thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to > remember > >

> Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as > well. > >

> but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > >

breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > > pisces >

> > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm > ready >

> for > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right

> > inside > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > > rani.> > >

> > > > > Sponsor > > >

> > > > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > > > Group info:

vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To

UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > >

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat

|| Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of

Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > >

Groups Sponsor > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > Group info:

vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE:

Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May

Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the

Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

July 8, 2003

Hi Ash/Margarita/All,

Thanks for all your inputs, is there a possibility to loose the job

during this phase.

--Siva

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

>

> How do you see court cases and their endings. I can see that

Mercury

> is LOE for 6th house. I am considering 6th house for court cases.

I

> do not know if this is correct though.

> In any case Mercury has highest points of 25 for 6th house and next

> antra is that of Ketu (Sun) who has just 10 points.

>

> Now, what gives court cases is it High points or Low points for 6th

> house and what marks the end again is it low points or high points ?

>

> Mahadasha is that of Shani and Shani holds karaktwa for 8th and 9th

> house so how do we know that a particular antra will give " court

> case " as compared to " desease " or " a job " all of it are 6th house

> matters so how can we know that Shani/Mercury antra the person may

> face a court case ? Here Shani is placed in 6th house with more

> points but as per the system planets do not give results related to

> the house they are placed but if with more points then of 4th and

8th

> house from it....

>

> More and more questions... hope to get some guidance...

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " dirk & margarita

> lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> > Hello Siva, Ash, and listmembers,

> > OK for your TOB, it should thus be accurate.

> > Of course I'm waiting untill Krushna can give some more

> clarification about

> > the role Rahu can play because Ash and myself have different

> opinion and

> > things have to be cleared up first otherwise discussion is

useless.

> > As to your divorce, I think it will get settled in Mercury antar

so

> this is

> > before end of january 2004, but I would like someone else's

> opinion about

> > that.

> >

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

> >

> > vijayuma [vijayuma]

> > Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:23 PM

> >

> > Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> > Hi Margarita, Ash and All,

> >

> > since you all are looking for exact dates to get some

> understanding

> > on my chart, here are the exact facts.

> >

> > 1) My birth time is considered to be very accurate. Our family

> > beleives in astrology, we have family astrologers and birth of a

> > child is timed correctly, i would say that there is no need to

> even

> > think of correction of time.

> >

> > 2) My marraige date February 9 1996 (Forced marraige, i was

> married

> > to my mom's own brothers daughter, it is a practice in south

> indian

> > families)

> >

> > 3) first child June 12 1997 (daughter was born in India, but i

> was in

> > USA at that time)

> >

> > 4) second child september 30 1998 (Son was born in USA)

> >

> > 5) seperation date first weeek of february 1999

> >

> > 6) filed divorce march 2000; still divorce is going on, since a

> > contested divorce takes around 4 years in India.

> >

> > 7) Both children have not seen their mother from the date of

> > seperation (daughter was 20 months and son was 4 months),

though

> both

> > children are under my custody they live with my parents in

India,

> i

> > have not seen my children from March 2000 but plan to visit this

> > august.

> >

> > 8) Basically from 1999 all sorts of problems marraige, finance

> (lots

> > of debts), and now career.

> >

> > But still holding on that it will get better.

> >

> > Hope all the above information helps a little bit to judge the

> > reasons.

> >

> > --Siva

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Margarita,

> > > I am adding my comments below your comments.

> > >

> > > , " dirk &

> margarita

> > > lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> > > > Hello Ash,

> > > > Good questions, I just put in my meaning in your text.

> > > >

> > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> > > > Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:32 AM

> > > >

> > > > Re: Transit Saturn

> Exactly

> > (in

> > > > degrees) over natal Moon

> > > >

> > > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Siva,

> > > >

> > > > Siva, can you confirm if you were married between 20th

Feb

> and

> > > 28th

> > > > of Feb i.e. Suns transit over Saturn and Rahu. (Saturn

is

> LOD

> > and

> > > > Rahu in House D).

> > > >

> > > > Can you also give either the birth dates or conception

time

> of

> > > your

> > > > children.

> > > >

> > > > Krushnaji and Margarita since Siva was married in

Guru/Rahu

> > > (shani)

> > > > and seperation happened in Shani/shani here how can you

time

> > > > seperatoin in Shani/Shani ?

> > > > WE SEE THT ONLY JUPITER HAS GOOD POINTS IN 5th,7th AND

> > 12th.THE

> > > ONLY ONE

> > > > THAT COULD GIVE RESULTS FOR MARRIAGE WAS THUS JUPITER.NOW

HIS

> > ANTRA

> > > WAS IN

> > > > 1982 AND THEN THE NATIVE WAS ONLY 12 YEARS OLD. MARRIAGE

> HAPPENED

> > > IN RAHU

> > > > ANTAR BECAUSE RAHU IS IN SAG. AND DOES THE JOB FOR JUPITER.

> THIS

> > > SEEMS OK TO

> > > > ME.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ash : The way I came to Rahu antra in Shani main was I

> considered

> > > Moderate delay due to shani and then at that time after delay

of

> > > shani was over Mars antra in Shani main was running. So Mars

> having

> > > just 7 bindus could not give marriage. Next antra was that of

> > Rahu.

> > > Rahu represents (Shani only) and Shani is LOD and is placed in

> > House

> > > D so will result on priority. That is why I came to

conclusion

> of

> > > Rahu antra. Yes Shani is very weak for all houses but he is

> LOD so

> > > we do not consider points and nodes in House D or E will give

> > result

> > > on prority as they are tennants there.

> > >

> > > > LOOKING AT SATURN, HIS POINTS ARE VERY LOW FOR ALL

HOUSES.

> THE

> > > ONLY PLANET

> > > > SATURN IS SAMDHARMI TO IS VENUS WHO CAN GIVE RESULTS FOR

THE

> 2nd

> > > HOUSE.

> > > > VENUS ALSO HAS 5 POINTS FOR THE 7th, HOUSE E FOR THE 2nd.

SO I

> > > THINK SATURN

> > > > ACTS FOR VENUS. LOOKING AT THE KARAK FOR THE 2nd HOUSE IT'S

> THE

> > > MOON AND

> > > > MOON IS IN SATURN NAVAMSA, SO THERE WE ALSO SEE A

RELATIONSHIP

> > WITH

> > > THE MAHA

> > > > DASA LORD. OF COURSE IT'S ALWAYS MORE EASY TO SEE THINGS

WHEN

> > THEY

> > > HAVE

> > > > HAPPENED..... I COULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED FOR SURE A

SEPARATION

> OR

> > > DIVORCE

> > > > ALTHOUGH IT'S CLEAR THAT MARRIAGE WAS NOT HAPPY

> > >

> > > Ash : There are other factors that do not auger well for

> marriage

> > as

> > > pointed out in my previous mail which could indicate a

> seperation

> > but

> > > why in Shani/Shani. Shani, yes it has low points for all

houses

> > but

> > > its LOD for 7th house, why did it not sustain marriage ?

Agreed

> > its

> > > in 6th house with high bindus but still its LOD. I would like

> > > Krushnaji to comment on the same. So that we could have

> predicted

> > > with more confidence in antras of LOD or LOE a break up.

Also

> in

> > the

> > > past we have predicted break up happening " quickly " in LOD or

> LOE

> > but

> > > that was when Marriage happened in low significator and break

in

> > > highest significator or LOD or LOE here Marriage happened in

> Rahu

> > who

> > > is LOD and Breakup also in LOD Only difference is Mahadasha

> changed

> > > but still Antras have precidence over Mahadasha as per this

> > system.

> > > Hence my confusion.

> > >

> > > > Secondly, how can you have timed children in Rahu or

Shanis

> > > antra ?

> > > > All planets except Sun and Guru have weak points for 5th

> house

> > and

> > > > Ketu in 10th house can give... any insights on why

Shanis

> > antra

> > > > gave 2 children, Marriage in Rahu is understandable but

> > children

> > > I am

> > > > puzzled ?

> > > > I THINK CONCEPTION OF CHILDREN ALSO TOOK PLACE IN RAHU

> ANTAR.

> > I

> > > DON'T SEE

> > > > SATURN ABLE TO DO THIS. MARRIAGE WAS IN BEGINNING OF RAHU

> ANTAR

> > > WHICH IS

> > > > NEARLY 29 MONTHS SO WITH A BIT OF LUCK THIS WORKS

ESPECIALLY

> IF

> > THE

> > > FIRST

> > > > CHILD WAS CONCEIVED EARLY AFTER MARRIAGE DATE.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ash : Again, Margarita, Rahu represents only Shani. As its

in

> its

> > > own nakshsatra and in sign of Shani. So I am confused

retarding

> > > Birth of Children as Marriage happened in Rahu (Shani) and

> Broke in

> > > Shanis' antra, so children also were born in Shanis' or Rahus'

> > antra

> > > but but represent Shani.

> > >

> > > > Again here, I could get the right antra for marriage but

> goofed

> > > up on

> > > > identifying the correct 1/3rd portion. I chose 2nd

sector

> due

> > to

> > > the

> > > > fact that there is moderate delay in Sivas chart but the

> event

> > > > happened in the first 1/3rd sector. What is the reasoning

> > behind

> > > > this ? Why first 1/3rd portion of Rahu's antra ?

> > > > NO ASH, I'M AT LOSS TOO. I ALSO WENT FOR THE 2nd PART

> BECAUSE

> > > RAHU IS IN

> > > > SATURN SIGN AND JUPITER NAVAMSA BUT WITH SATURN. I TRIED TO

> > CHANGE

> > > THE TOB

> > > > BUT IT'S HARD TO MAKE HIM MARRY IN THE 2ndPART AS 2

CHILDREN

> HAVE

> > > STILL TO

> > > > BE CONCEIVED IN RAHU ANTAR .....

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ash : Ok, so Krushnaji can step in here and guide us on why

> event

> > > happened in 1nd sector.

> > >

> > > > Please share your insights and guide me to understand

> narrowing

> > > down

> > > > further to the proper sector ....

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > >

> > > Thanks Margarita,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " vijayuma "

> > > > <vijayuma> wrote:

> > > > > HI Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for all the inputs, appreciate them. regarding

your

> > > > > clarification questions,

> > > > > I was married in feb 1996

> > > > > I have two children one son and one daughter, I filed

> divorce

> > in

> > > > > March 2000 still divorce case is being prolonged (in

> india a

> > > > > contested divorce takes 4 years).

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Siva

> > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Siva,

> > > > > > I casted your chart. Margarita has given a very good

> > > analysis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would however like to verify a few things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Were you married in Jupiter/Rahu antra i.e. between

> 1995/12

> > > thru

> > > > > > 1998/21. I would say in the 2nd sector i.e After

> > 1996/August

> > > > thru

> > > > > > 1997/May. Rahu reprsents Shani who is LOD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you verify if you have any children

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next antra is that of Shani. Shani is very weak for

> each

> > and

> > > > every

> > > > > > house. This antra starts from 1998/05/21 thru

> 2001/05/23.

> > So

> > > > > > Issues could have begun from there. Even the previous

> > period

> > > of

> > > > > > Guru/Rahu would not have been a walk in the park i.e.

> > 1995/12

> > > > thru

> > > > > > 1998/21. However the problems might be different as

> Gurus

> > > > karaktwa

> > > > > > is different from Shanis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shani is in 6th house with 5 bindus. Here LOD is

> situated

> > in

> > > 6th

> > > > > > house. Guru is in Libra. You have 2 zero point in

2nd

> > house

> > > > which

> > > > > > is Karak sthan for marriage and family and for 7th

house

> > > which is

> > > > > > for marriage. Mars is giving 0 for 7th house and

Shani

> is

> > > giving

> > > > 0

> > > > > > for 2nd house. 6th lord aspecting LOD in Rasi. LOE

is

> in

> > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > of Guru who is spoilt being in Libra. All these

things

> do

> > not

> > > > auger

> > > > > > well for marriage. Current antra running has very low

> > points

> > > for

> > > > > > 5th house and also all planets are less than 12

points

> for

> > > 12th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As Margarita had pointed out.. Shani has finsished his

> > transit

> > > > over

> > > > > > taurus and at that time Mars was also transitting over

> > > > Sagittarius

> > > > > > so you definitely must have been through hell and

> problems

> > > faced

> > > > > > would come in the form of house ownerships of shani

and

> mars

> > > > which

> > > > > > is 1st and 6th house for mars and 3rd and 4th house

for

> > shani

> > > so

> > > > > you

> > > > > > would not have gotten any support from these houses

when

> > shani

> > > > and

> > > > > > mars transitted over taurus and sagittarius.

Problems

> must

> > > > > > definitely have started brewing from that time

onwards.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Current Antra running is that of Mercury. Mercury is

> LOE

> > for

> > > 6th

> > > > > > house but its with Mars who is 6th lord and also in

> Navamsa

> > > Mars

> > > > is

> > > > > > aspecting Mercury.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now if you observe closely at the Transit chart of

29th

> of

> > > June

> > > > > your

> > > > > > antra lord Mercury is in Navamsa of Mars. Mercury is

> > > samdharmi

> > > > to

> > > > > > Mars in Rasi. Transit points for June 29th were 201

so

> > > Mercury

> > > > > will

> > > > > > give results of its samdharmi Mars who is 6th lord !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury is LOE for Job but with Mars might not give

pure

> > > > > happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also feel Venus antra will be better for you as its

> > getting

> > > > good

> > > > > > points for pretty much all houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hang in there and remember every dark cloud has a

silver

> > > lining.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wish you all the best,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " vijayuma "

> > > > > > <vijayuma> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden

in

> > the

> > > last

> > > > > > three

> > > > > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very

bad

> > > financial

> > > > > > phase

> > > > > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always

> moving

> > in

> > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career

i

> have

> > > been

> > > > > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have

> been

> > > > > > technically

> > > > > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped

> quite

> > > > > > dramatically

> > > > > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most

> of it

> > > not a

> > > > > > fault

> > > > > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me

> etc.).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit

saturn

> is

> > > > exactly

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > my natal moon now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My DOB

> > > > > > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)

> > > > > > > Time Of Birth

> > > > > > > 8:45 am (No DST)

> > > > > > > Place of birth

> > > > > > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT

> > > > > > > Latitude and Longitude

> > > > > > > 10.23 N

> > > > > > > 78.52 E

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Siva

> > > >

July 10, 2003

I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further (I

know I get stupid during these times but I need to get it all deeper

into my head ;-)). so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had something to

do with my moon's or lagna's position could the kanataka sani effect

it and trigger anything?

rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Namah Shivaaya|

> Dear Rani,

> Transiting planets will not express their functional tendencies,

only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the

transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> raindancer_1998

> Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

> dear Visti and Gurus,

>

> I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of

emails.

> I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before!

>

> on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK

any

> relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is

> cancer and moon is in pisces.

>

> thanks!

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Rani,

> > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones

> work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and

> Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas

during

> its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and

> nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.

> > The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are

> different, but we consider them jointly.

> > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional

> charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > raindancer_1998

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told

me

> > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell

me

> about

> > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more

or

> > less. though I am trying to work thru it.

> >

> > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

> addition

> > to) sadesati?

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear List,

> > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th

or

> 10th.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > onlyhari

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Rani,

> > >

> > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi

is

> your

> > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa

in Ta

> > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for

you.

> > 3/6/11

> > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per

Narasimha's

> book.

> > >

> > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you,

then

> > probably

> > > there are other factors at work here.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > > vedic-

astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > > >

> > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> > remember

> > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from

lagna

> as

> > well.

> > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari,

I

> would

> > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my

rashi

> is

> > > pisces

> > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so

I'm

> > ready

> > > for

> > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and

I'm

> right

> > > inside

> > > > yet another one :-( .

> > > >

> > > > rani.

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> > astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu

||

> > >

> > > Terms

of

> > Service.

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

>

> Sponsor

>

> Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Terms of

Service.

July 11, 2003

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Rani,

>From now on i expect you to recite the mantra; Namah Shivaaya, atleast 108 times

a day using Rudraksha Mala, and Gyana Mudra. If you wanto learn Jyotish then you

must put your body, mind and soul into it. Believe me, you will feel a

significant difference very soon.

Inhale with Om, exhale with Namah Shivaaya.

Now the Moon is placed somewhere in your natal chart. When Shani hovers

(transits) over it or cast his laserbeam eyes on the Moons 10th house during

transit, then the Natal Moon, which is our mana and connection with the public,

suffers. I have not talked about Natal Yoga's yet. If your natal moon is

involved in some horrible yoga's, then Shani's transit gets even worse.

The logic is simple. The worse the inherrent state of the mind, the worse will

be the effects of people influencing it. And Shani is definitely among the more

malefic type of people.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS

99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

raindancer_1998

vedic astrology

Friday, July 11, 2003 6:36 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further (I know I get

stupid during these times but I need to get it all deeper into my head ;-)).

so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had something to do with my moon's or lagna's

position could the kanataka sani effect it and trigger anything? rani.--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > |Namah

Shivaaya|> Dear Rani,> Transiting planets will not express their functional

tendencies, only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the

transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?> Best wishes> Visti> --->

Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - >

raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology > Tuesday, July

08, 2003 5:42 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon> > > dear Visti and Gurus, > > I'm sorry if I sort

of repeated myself before in a couple of emails. > I forgot that I replied to

Hari's emails before! > > on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having

Shani as AK any > relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna

is > cancer and moon is in pisces. > > thanks!> rani. > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > >

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rani,> > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a

constant obstacle in ones > work. This work is seen from the 10th house from

Lagna, Moon and > Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these

bhavas during > its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt,

and > nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.> >

The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are > different, but

we consider them jointly.> > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned

in Divisional > charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.>

> Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > ----- Original

Message ----- > > raindancer_1998 > > To:

vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in > degrees)

over natal Moon> > > > > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's

what you told me > > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did

tell me > about > > depression and yes, that did happen and is still

around more or > > less. though I am trying to work thru it. > > > >

also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in > addition > >

to) sadesati? > > > > rani.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear List,> > > Has

anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or > 10th.> > > Best

wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > >

> onlyhari > > > vedic astrology > > >

Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re:

Transit Saturn Exactly (in > > degrees) over natal Moon> > > > > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> > > Dear Rani,> > > > >

> As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is > your > >

> chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta > > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. > >

3/6/11 > > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's >

book.> > > > > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by

you, then > > probably > > > there are other factors at work here. >

> > > > > regards> > > Hari> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > > >

<raindancer_1998> wrote:> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > >

> > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to > >

remember > > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

> as > > well. > > > > but I can't remember the number of the

posting. Hari, I > would > > > > breathe big relief if it were only

from the moon. my rashi > is > > > pisces > > > > and these past

three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm > > ready > > > for > >

> > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm > right > >

> inside > > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > > > >

rani.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:

vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > >

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >

> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine

on us .......> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is

subject to the Terms of > > Service.> > > > > >

Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > > > Group info:

vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To

UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > >

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat

|| Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of

Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > >

Groups Sponsor > > > > >

> Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info:

vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE:

Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May

Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the

Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

July 15, 2003

thanks Visti. it's much clearer to me now. Sani's transit is as bad

as you chart makes it.

I already do the chant you mentioned. but I do not have the

rudraksha mala. don't know where I would get it here. also, what is

the gyana mudra?

again, many thanks,

rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|

> Dear Rani,

> From now on i expect you to recite the mantra; Namah Shivaaya,

atleast 108 times a day using Rudraksha Mala, and Gyana Mudra. If

you wanto learn Jyotish then you must put your body, mind and soul

into it. Believe me, you will feel a significant difference very

soon.

> Inhale with Om, exhale with Namah Shivaaya.

>

> Now the Moon is placed somewhere in your natal chart. When Shani

hovers (transits) over it or cast his laserbeam eyes on the Moons

10th house during transit, then the Natal Moon, which is our mana

and connection with the public, suffers. I have not talked about

Natal Yoga's yet. If your natal moon is involved in some horrible

yoga's, then Shani's transit gets even worse.

> The logic is simple. The worse the inherrent state of the mind,

the worse will be the effects of people influencing it. And Shani is

definitely among the more malefic type of people.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> raindancer_1998

> Friday, July 11, 2003 6:36 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

> I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further

(I

> know I get stupid during these times but I need to get it all

deeper

> into my head ;-)). so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had

something to

> do with my moon's or lagna's position could the kanataka sani

effect

> it and trigger anything?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Namah Shivaaya|

> > Dear Rani,

> > Transiting planets will not express their functional

tendencies,

> only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are

the

> transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > raindancer_1998

> > Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> > dear Visti and Gurus,

> >

> > I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of

> emails.

> > I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before!

> >

> > on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as

AK

> any

> > relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna

is

> > cancer and moon is in pisces.

> >

> > thanks!

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Rani,

> > > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in

ones

> > work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon

and

> > Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these

bhavas

> during

> > its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt,

and

> > nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant

pain.

> > > The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati

are

> > different, but we consider them jointly.

> > > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in

Divisional

> > charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > raindancer_1998