Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Dear Siva, there must be some other factors also because I am in the same postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some changes occur but I think that they are positive. Good luck. Ognjen - vijayuma vedic astrology Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon Hi All,All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over my natal moon now. My DOB 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)Time Of Birth 8:45 am (No DST)Place of birth Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMTLatitude and Longitude 10.23 N 78.52 EAny inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciatedThanksSivaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Siva, Does this by any chance involve a lady(lady boss or colleague)? You are running through the period of Sat/Mer/Rahu and in D-10,Rahu is posited in Aries with Jupiter who lords the 12th house from arudha Lagna.So its but natural that there is a perceived loss of status.This is in addition to Rahu whose sign dispositor Mars is placed in Cancer in opposition to the Arudha Lagna, Capricorn.So there will be some opposition to your work from people at work. Hang in there until January when the Lord of AL Saturn takes over as PD lord. Please pray to Sri Narayana(Amatyakaraka) and also to Sri Ganaesha ketu in 6th to Amtyakaraka). Your obstacles will go away. Hare Krishna Sudharsan vedic astrology, "vijayuma" <vijayuma> wrote: > Hi All, > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over > my natal moon now. > > My DOB > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > Time Of Birth > 8:45 am (No DST) > Place of birth > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > Latitude and Longitude > 10.23 N > 78.52 E > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > Thanks > Siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Ognjen and Siva, Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental tensions. I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during this period! My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very stressful because the native has by then developed the experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double whammy! respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you greatly. Its all a matter of faith. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Ognjen" <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > Dear Siva, > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > Good luck. > > Ognjen > - > vijayuma > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon > > > Hi All, > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over > my natal moon now. > > My DOB > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > Time Of Birth > 8:45 am (No DST) > Place of birth > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > Latitude and Longitude > 10.23 N > 78.52 E > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > Thanks > Siva > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 For me in my sade sathi first 5 years over.This is my second cycle.My moon rasi is rishaba.During saturn comes to mesha my seven and half year saturn started.First 2 and half years its ok.next 2 and half years mental tensions,worries,quarells...Now i am in the last 2 and half years.In this for me lot of physical pbms are coming.Not much mental tensions. Regards Raji onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Ognjen and Siva,Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental tensions.I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during this period!My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very stressful because the native has by then developed the experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double whammy!respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you greatly. Its all a matter of faith.regardsHarivedic astrology, "Ognjen" <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:> Dear Siva,> > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some changes occur but I think that they are positive.> > Good luck.> > Ognjen> - > vijayuma > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM> [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon> > > Hi All,> > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).> > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over > my natal moon now. > > My DOB> 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)> Time Of Birth> 8:45 am (No DST)> Place of birth> Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT> Latitude and Longitude> 10.23 N> 78.52 E> > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated> > Thanks> Siva>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Your use of is subject to the SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Raji, Yes, you are not completely out of the woods yet although you may feel considerable relief presently! 3rd house gochar transit of Sa circa Sep'04 should be good for you...happy days are slowly but surely coming to you. :-) regards Hari vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > Dear Hari, > > For me in my sade sathi first 5 years over.This is my second cycle.My moon rasi is rishaba.During saturn comes to mesha my seven and half year saturn started.First 2 and half years its ok.next 2 and half years mental tensions,worries,quarells...Now i am in the last 2 and half years.In this for me lot of physical pbms are coming.Not much mental tensions. > > Regards > > Raji > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 dear Hari, I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatis going on ALL the time! yikes. rani. vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote: > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > Dear Ognjen and Siva, > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > tensions. > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > this period! > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > stressful because the native has by then developed the > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > whammy! > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > greatly. Its all a matter of faith. > > regards > Hari > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > Dear Siva, > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Ognjen > > - > > vijayuma > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > over natal Moon > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last > three > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial > phase > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > positive > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > technically > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > dramatically > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a > fault > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly > over > > my natal moon now. > > > > My DOB > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > > Time Of Birth > > 8:45 am (No DST) > > Place of birth > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > > Latitude and Longitude > > 10.23 N > > 78.52 E > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > > > Thanks > > Siva > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 dear hari, i heard that third sadesati is very bad and in general people will not complete third sadesate (i.e. during third sadesati people die). how far this is correct? with regards, t. v. rao - "onlyhari" <onlyhari <vedic astrology> Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:22 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > Dear Ognjen and Siva, > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > tensions. > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > this period! > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > stressful because the native has by then developed the > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > whammy! > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > greatly. Its all a matter of faith. > > regards > Hari > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > Dear Siva, > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Ognjen > > - > > vijayuma > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > over natal Moon > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last > three > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial > phase > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > positive > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > technically > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > dramatically > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a > fault > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly > over > > my natal moon now. > > > > My DOB > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > > Time Of Birth > > 8:45 am (No DST) > > Place of birth > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > > Latitude and Longitude > > 10.23 N > > 78.52 E > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > > > Thanks > > Siva > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Rani, Sadesati is to be reckoned only with respect to natal moon in rasi chart. Hope that cheers you considerably. :-) regards Hari vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote: > dear Hari, > > I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from > moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can > it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? > > if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatis > going on ALL the time! yikes. > > rani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 I've also read that SS applies to Asc, and sometimes Sun as well. personally, most difficult of three was Sat over Moon. You seem tp reffer to a 'reliable source', I'd appreciate your sharing. Thanks, Annaonlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Rani,Sadesati is to be reckoned only with respect to natal moon in rasi chart. Hope that cheers you considerably. :-)regardsHarivedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote:> dear Hari, > > I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from > moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can > it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? > > if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatis> going on ALL the time! yikes. > > rani.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 It is considered to be from one's moon rasi.When saturn comes yr previous rasi sade sati has started. Regards Raji raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998 > wrote: dear Hari, I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatisgoing on ALL the time! yikes. rani.--- In vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote:> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> Dear Ognjen and Siva,> > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > tensions.> > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > this period!> > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > stressful because the native has by then developed the > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > whammy!> > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > greatly. Its all a matter of faith.> > regards> Hari> > --- In vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:> > Dear Siva,> > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > changes occur but I think that they are positive.> > > > Good luck.> > > > Ognjen> > ----- Original Message ----- > > vijayuma > > To: vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM> > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > over natal Moon> > > > > > Hi All,> > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last > three > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial > phase > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > positive > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > technically > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > dramatically > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a > fault > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).> > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly > over > > my natal moon now. > > > > My DOB> > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)> > Time Of Birth> > 8:45 am (No DST)> > Place of birth> > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT> > Latitude and Longitude> > 10.23 N> > 78.52 E> > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated> > > > Thanks> > Siva> >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is pisces and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready for a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right inside yet another one :-( . rani. vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > Dear Rani, > > It is considered to be from one's moon rasi.When saturn comes yr previous rasi sade sati has started. > > Regards > Raji > > > raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998> wrote: > dear Hari, > > I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from > moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can > it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? > > if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatis > going on ALL the time! yikes. > > rani. > > vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> > wrote: > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > > Dear Ognjen and Siva, > > > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is > generally > > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > > tensions. > > > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > > this period! > > > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while > the > > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to > be > > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected > within > > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually > makes > > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > > stressful because the native has by then developed the > > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. > Again > > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > > whammy! > > > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per > advice > > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere > worship > > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > > greatly. Its all a matter of faith. > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > > Dear Siva, > > > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > > changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Ognjen > > > - > > > vijayuma > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > > over natal Moon > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the > last > > three > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad > financial > > phase > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > > positive > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > > technically > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > > dramatically > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not > a > > fault > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is > exactly > > over > > > my natal moon now. > > > > > > My DOB > > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > > > Time Of Birth > > > 8:45 am (No DST) > > > Place of birth > > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > > > Latitude and Longitude > > > 10.23 N > > > 78.52 E > > > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > > > > > Thanks > > > Siva > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Rani, As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book. If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably there are other factors at work here. regards Hari vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote: > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is pisces > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready for > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right inside > yet another one :-( . > > rani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna|Dear List, Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Rani,As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book.If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably there are other factors at work here. regardsHarivedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote:> hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is pisces > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready for > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right inside > yet another one :-( . > > rani.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Hari, it was shall we say a very small breather? also, I think, 11th is my badhaksthan. and my badhakesh is in my 8th - venus - ruler of my 4th. it's disposited by saturn in makara in 7th - which has sasa yoga. and saturn is my atmakaraka. just writing this, I am getting the shivers. anyway. thanks very much for staying with my questions. rani. vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote: > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > Dear Rani, > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book. > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably > there are other factors at work here. > > regards > Hari > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > <raindancer_1998> wrote: > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > pisces > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready > for > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right > inside > > yet another one :-( . > > > > rani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me about depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or less. though I am trying to work thru it. also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in addition to) sadesati? rani. vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear List, > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > onlyhari > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > Dear Rani, > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book. > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably > there are other factors at work here. > > regards > Hari > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > <raindancer_1998> wrote: > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > pisces > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready > for > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right > inside > > yet another one :-( . > > > > rani. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Rani, Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain. The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are different, but we consider them jointly. Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - raindancer_1998 vedic astrology Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me about depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or less. though I am trying to work thru it. also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in addition to) sadesati? rani.vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear List,> Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - > onlyhari > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> Dear Rani,> > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book.> > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably > there are other factors at work here. > > regards> Hari> vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > <raindancer_1998> wrote:> > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > pisces > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready > for > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right > inside > > yet another one :-( . > > > > rani.> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 hi all, sadesati is for seven and half years and to be considered from chandra rashi. but sat transit over asc and on kendras from asc., on AL are also difficult. specially on AL except sadesati..other transit effects are for two and half years only. besides sat transit on 5th, 8th, 9th, 12th from moon are also not good. similar effects can be judged from varga charts also. it is hard to find a peacefull time (LOL) jk - raindancer_1998 vedic astrology Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:58 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is pisces and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready for a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right inside yet another one :-( . rani.--- In vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> Dear Rani,> > It is considered to be from one's moon rasi.When saturn comes yr previous rasi sade sati has started.> > Regards> Raji> > > raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998> wrote:> dear Hari, > > I have a small question: are sadesatis only to be considered from > moon, or are the ascendant or the sun to be considered also? and can > it be considered on the navamsa chart from transits too? > > if all of the above apply, then we could conceivably have sadesatis> going on ALL the time! yikes. > > rani.> > --- In vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> > wrote:> > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> > Dear Ognjen and Siva,> > > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is > generally > > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > > tensions.> > > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > > this period!> > > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while > the > > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to > be > > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected > within > > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually > makes > > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > > stressful because the native has by then developed the > > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. > Again > > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > > whammy!> > > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per > advice > > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere > worship > > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > > greatly. Its all a matter of faith.> > > > regards> > Hari> > > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:> > > Dear Siva,> > > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > > changes occur but I think that they are positive.> > > > > > Good luck.> > > > > > Ognjen> > > - > > > vijayuma > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > > over natal Moon> > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the > last > > three > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad > financial > > phase > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > > positive > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > > technically > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > > dramatically > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not > a > > fault > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).> > > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is > exactly > > over > > > my natal moon now. > > > > > > My DOB> > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)> > > Time Of Birth> > > 8:45 am (No DST)> > > Place of birth> > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT> > > Latitude and Longitude> > > 10.23 N> > > 78.52 E> > > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated> > > > > > Thanks> > > Siva> > >> > > Sponsor> Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Rani, If I remember correctly once Sanjay Ji said about the Kantaka Shani effect would be like a "Lion limping" during that period. I always tries to understand the Sanskrit meaning of these definition first, so I would think , Kantaka means "Thorn" so what happens to a native when he/she gets Thorn in the feet, the result could be walking slowly or limping, hence the "Kantaka Shani" meaning matches with Sanjay ji' saying of "Lion Limping". It is only my little knowledge. Guru's may please correct me if I am wrong. Regards Rao vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote: > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me about > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or > less. though I am trying to work thru it. > > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in addition > to) sadesati? > > rani. > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > Dear List, > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > onlyhari > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in > degrees) over natal Moon > > > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > > Dear Rani, > > > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta > (being > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. > 3/6/11 > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book. > > > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then > probably > > there are other factors at work here. > > > > regards > > Hari > > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > > <raindancer_1998> wrote: > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to > remember > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as > well. > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > > pisces > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm > ready > > for > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right > > inside > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > > rani. > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear T.V Rao and Hari, If assuming for certain cases shani took 29 years for the sadi sati as worst case and at best the person was born when sadi sati was going on so here you have 2 scnarios 29.5*3 = 88.5 years and the second is 29.5 * 2 = 59 years. Life expectancy during Vedic times is definitely different from now... Life expectacy in India I think is much lesser than 88.5 years... so if people die around 88.5 they have outlived their life expectacny in forIndia atleast... The probability of a person dying during the 3rd cycle is quite high.. I must recon.... and for remaining people who escape the 3rd cycle.. the 4th cycle of shani will definitely do the job... What say you.... Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote: > dear hari, > > i heard that third sadesati is very bad and in general people will not > complete third sadesate (i.e. during third sadesati people die). how far > this is correct? > > with regards, > > t. v. rao > > - > "onlyhari" <onlyhari> > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:22 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over > natal Moon > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > > Dear Ognjen and Siva, > > > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally > > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > > tensions. > > > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during > > this period! > > > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the > > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be > > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within > > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes > > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > > stressful because the native has by then developed the > > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends > > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again > > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > > whammy! > > > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice > > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship > > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > > greatly. Its all a matter of faith. > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > > Dear Siva, > > > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > > changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Ognjen > > > - > > > vijayuma > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > > over natal Moon > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last > > three > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial > > phase > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > > positive > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > > technically > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > > dramatically > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a > > fault > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly > > over > > > my natal moon now. > > > > > > My DOB > > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > > > Time Of Birth > > > 8:45 am (No DST) > > > Place of birth > > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > > > Latitude and Longitude > > > 10.23 N > > > 78.52 E > > > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > > > > > Thanks > > > Siva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Hello Siva, I don't think only Saturn transit over your moon is totally responsible. If you look at the dasas you will see that Saturn/Saturn was running between may 98 and may 2001, During this Sat/Sat period Saturn was transiting your 7th house where Mars has 0 points. Saturn is also the 2nd lord, bringing worries and friction with superiors, etc. When making the worksheet, you will also see that Saturn has low points and cannot give favorable results during his antar. Actually you are running Sat/ Mercury. Mercury is samdharmi to the 6th lord. Mercury can give results for many houses especially for the 2nd and the 8th. Saturn transit over the Moon could make you a bit depressed. Anyway, some tension and stress has been building up in previous months or year not only through work conditions and perhaps your focus is less charp or you feel more weak. In these conditions one suffers more or feels more sharply adversities from others. So Saturn on Moon is not the only one responsible. Best regards Margaria vijayuma [vijayuma]Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:09 AM Subject: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal MoonHi All,All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over my natal moon now. My DOB20/october/1970 (Tuesday)Time Of Birth8:45 am (No DST)Place of birthNear pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMTLatitude and Longitude10.23 N78.52 EAny inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciatedThanksSiva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Consider this situation.I was born at the end of sade sati.My moon rasi is rishaba rasi.My natal saturn is in gemini.That means i was born at the last 2 and half years of first cycle of sade sati.Within my age of 30,now i am running 2nd cycle of sade sati.Am i right??? Thanks Raji ashsam73 <ashsam73 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear T.V Rao and Hari,If assuming for certain cases shani took 29 years for the sadi sati as worst case and at best the person was born when sadi sati was going on so here you have 2 scnarios 29.5*3 = 88.5 years and the second is 29.5 * 2 = 59 years. Life expectancy during Vedic times is definitely different from now... Life expectacy in India I think is much lesser than 88.5 years... so if people die around 88.5 they have outlived their life expectacny in forIndia atleast... The probability of a person dying during the 3rd cycle is quite high.. I must recon.... and for remaining people who escape the 3rd cycle.. the 4th cycle of shani will definitely do the job... ;)What say you.... Cheers !!!Ashvedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> dear hari,> > i heard that third sadesati is very bad and in general people will not> complete third sadesate (i.e. during third sadesati people die). how far> this is correct?> > with regards,> > t. v. rao> > -> "onlyhari" <onlyhari>> <vedic astrology>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:22 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over> natal Moon> > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> > Dear Ognjen and Siva,> >> > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is generally> > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal> > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental> > tensions.> >> > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are> > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the> > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge> > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some> > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any> > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during> > this period!> >> > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while the> > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to be> > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with> > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected within> > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually makes> > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very> > stressful because the native has by then developed the> > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends> > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. Again> > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double> > whammy!> >> > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per advice> > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may> > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere worship> > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you> > greatly. Its all a matter of faith.> >> > regards> > Hari> >> > vedic astrology, "Ognjen"> > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:> > > Dear Siva,> > >> > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same> > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some> > changes occur but I think that they are positive.> > >> > > Good luck.> > >> > > Ognjen> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > vijayuma> > > vedic astrology> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees)> > over natal Moon> > >> > >> > > Hi All,> > >> > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last> > three> > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial> > phase> > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in> > positive> > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been> > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been> > technically> > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite> > dramatically> > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a> > fault> > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).> > >> > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly> > over> > > my natal moon now.> > >> > > My DOB> > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)> > > Time Of Birth> > > 8:45 am (No DST)> > > Place of birth> > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT> > > Latitude and Longitude> > > 10.23 N> > > 78.52 E> > >> > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated> > >> > > Thanks> > > Siva> > >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > > >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Raji, This would mean that the first cycle would finish at 29.5 - 2.5 years i.e. 27th year and 2nd cycle would end after 29.5 years and then 3 would end after another 29.5 years.. The essence of my mail is the fact that one is considering an outermost planet considered in Vedic Astrology and taking 3 cycles of it... to me thats like maximizing the probablity for death.... Also refer to Vistis mail and he has elucidated about Kantaka shani. Now between Sade sati and Kantaka Shani .. we are covering pretty much half the signs in the chart.... its not right to bame saturn all the time.. yes he is a harsh teacher.. and teaches a lesson... but he can also give marriage, give birth of children, give happinesss if he is strong.. Check how many bindus shani gives for 12th, 1st and 2nd from moon in its BhinaAshtakavarga. If its less than 3 bindus then there maybe more enhanced effects.. but if points given by Shani itself is like 4 or 5 bindus then results will be felt would be very good. Shani cannot cause havoc if its giving more bindus to the place where he is transitting as for example if shani is giving 5 bindus to the place where moon which means that 5 planets or lagna are opposing shani and dissuading it from showing its natural maleficiance.... Just because Shani transits over 12th, 1st or 2nd from lagna does not mean always there will be problems... Hari has demonstrated that with his chart... also the fact that during transits other planets also have to be considered and their effect on the house shani is transitting too... You cannot see one planet in isolation... Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > Hi ASh, > > Consider this situation.I was born at the end of sade sati.My moon rasi is rishaba rasi.My natal saturn is in gemini.That means i was born at the last 2 and half years of first cycle of sade sati.Within my age of 30,now i am running 2nd cycle of sade sati.Am i right??? > > Thanks > Raji > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear T.V Rao and Hari, > If assuming for certain cases shani took 29 years for the sadi sati > as worst case and at best the person was born when sadi sati was > going on so here you have 2 scnarios 29.5*3 = 88.5 years and the > second is 29.5 * 2 = 59 years. Life expectancy during Vedic times > is definitely different from now... Life expectacy in India I think > is much lesser than 88.5 years... so if people die around 88.5 they > have outlived their life expectacny in forIndia atleast... The > probability of a person dying during the 3rd cycle is quite high.. I > must recon.... and for remaining people who escape the 3rd cycle.. > the 4th cycle of shani will definitely do the job... > What say you.... > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > vedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> > wrote: > > dear hari, > > > > i heard that third sadesati is very bad and in general people will > not > > complete third sadesate (i.e. during third sadesati people die). > how far > > this is correct? > > > > with regards, > > > > t. v. rao > > > > - > > "onlyhari" <onlyhari> > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:22 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > over > > natal Moon > > > > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > > > Dear Ognjen and Siva, > > > > > > Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is > generally > > > called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal > > > moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental > > > tensions. > > > > > > I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are > > > exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the > > > 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge > > > (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some > > > delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any > > > difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married > during > > > this period! > > > > > > My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while > the > > > second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to > be > > > considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with > > > respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected > within > > > the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually > makes > > > the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very > > > stressful because the native has by then developed the > > > experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this > depends > > > to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running. > Again > > > my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double > > > whammy! > > > > > > respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per > advice > > > of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may > > > search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere > worship > > > in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you > > > greatly. Its all a matter of faith. > > > > > > regards > > > Hari > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ognjen" > > > <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote: > > > > Dear Siva, > > > > > > > > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same > > > postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some > > > changes occur but I think that they are positive. > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > Ognjen > > > > - > > > > vijayuma > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in > degrees) > > > over natal Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the > last > > > three > > > > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad > financial > > > phase > > > > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in > > > positive > > > > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have > been > > > > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been > > > technically > > > > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite > > > dramatically > > > > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it > not a > > > fault > > > > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > > > > > > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is > exactly > > > over > > > > my natal moon now. > > > > > > > > My DOB > > > > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > > > > Time Of Birth > > > > 8:45 am (No DST) > > > > Place of birth > > > > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > > > > Latitude and Longitude > > > > 10.23 N > > > > 78.52 E > > > > > > > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Siva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Hi Margaria, Thanks for your comments. I have one more question, with what i have gone through in the past few years (terrible from 1999) could you please let me know if there will be any improvement in any of the follwing. I have been fighting 2 and 3 in the past but 1 has also cropped up recently. Bottom line is there light in the end of the tunnel and how long is this tunnel. 1) profession 2) finance 3) marraige --Siva , " dirk & margarita lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Siva, > I don't think only Saturn transit over your moon is totally responsible. If > you look at the dasas you will see that Saturn/Saturn was running between > may 98 and may 2001, During this Sat/Sat period Saturn was transiting your > 7th house where Mars has 0 points. Saturn is also the 2nd lord, bringing > worries and friction with superiors, etc. When making the worksheet, you > will also see that Saturn has low points and cannot give favorable results > during his antar. > Actually you are running Sat/ Mercury. Mercury is samdharmi to the 6th lord. > Mercury can give results for many houses especially for the 2nd and the 8th. > Saturn transit over the Moon could make you a bit depressed. Anyway, some > tension and stress has been building up in previous months or year not only > through work conditions and perhaps your focus is less charp or you feel > more weak. In these conditions one suffers more or feels more sharply > adversities from others. So Saturn on Moon is not the only one responsible. > Best regards > Margaria > > vijayuma [vijayuma] > Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:09 AM > > Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) > over natal Moon > > > Hi All, > > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the last three > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad financial phase > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in positive > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been technically > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite dramatically > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not a fault > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.). > > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is exactly over > my natal moon now. > > My DOB > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday) > Time Of Birth > 8:45 am (No DST) > Place of birth > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT > Latitude and Longitude > 10.23 N > 78.52 E > > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated > > Thanks > Siva > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Visti, I remember there is something known as Adhaiyya in local dialect. It is said to operate when Saturn is 4th or 8th from Lagna or Moon and duration is of 2and 1/2 years. Perhaps your goodself or Sanjayji could throw some light on this. Adhaiyya concept is much used by North Indian Astrologers. I am not very certain when it applies, but my logic tells me that there is much sense in the concept. Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Rani, Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain. The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are different, but we consider them jointly. Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org ----- Original Message ----- raindancer_1998 To: vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me about depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or less. though I am trying to work thru it. also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in addition to) sadesati? rani. vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear List, > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > onlyhari > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > Dear Rani, > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is your > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta (being > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. 3/6/11 > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's book. > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then probably > there are other factors at work here. > > regards > Hari > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > <raindancer_1998> wrote: > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to remember > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as well. > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > pisces > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm ready > for > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right > inside > > yet another one :-( . > > > > rani. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Namaste, I think the Sani Kantaka is also known as Sani Dhayya (the 2-1/2 years in 4th and 8th house), generally brings forth obsticle and unfavourable periods. Goranga Das told (message no. 23815) that Kantaka Sani is caused when during, Saturn hits 1st, 4th and 8th houses. I dont know why there is diversity over this concepts. I am pasting that message, for the sake of ease. Regards IMRAN Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:50 pm Re: [vedic astrology] Re: QUERY ON SADESATI JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Muhammad, Namaste. Now the question about whether the pivotal sign should either be Natal Moon or Lagna? But there are various opinion on it. e.g. In SA (system approach) transit is reckoned from natal lagna. Whereas some experts not only take Natal Moon but also consider Natal Lagna for delineating transit effects. Thus transit of Saturn behind, over and ahead of Lagna is assmused identical to Sade Sati. Of course you could take so, but usually the suffering will be felt more if transit is over the Moon, because mental suffering is stronger than physical one. If you calculate from lagna, then the problematic houses ara 1st, 8th and 10th. This transit is called Kantaka Sani, and it will rather indicate factual obstacles and difficulties, than mental unhappiness. The efect is different. Of course on the whole, Saturn's transit over any house is considered evil to thet house, unless Saturn is yoga Karaka in Jataka chart. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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