Planets in Rasi Sandhi

November 4, 2003

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Jayashree,

You are most welcome.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Jayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramadas ji,Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations

and I was reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me too,

having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is Raman

Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I was looking for

supporting factors to a major loss in the divisionals, besides the planet being

in rasi sandhi alone. Best regards,Jayashree--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae

naray[ay,> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Jayashree,> Thanks for the explanations.>

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> Jayashree

<jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,> > Again very sorry to

have been

discussing over this loss with you, > even though seeking astrological

explanations. As you said, it really > does look clear after looking at D-3

that 3rd house between Mars and > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for

Taurus, and Venus the > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury

all seem to > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he was

not > able to protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is it >

that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a > functional

malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in the > loss rather than

protect against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana as > you had stated, Mars the

natural significator for younger co-borns as > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3

is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-Karaka > as well that lord of 6th house and A8,

and Jupiter rules 8th house in

> D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for > causing

this great loss.> > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very sorry for

your loss.> > Wishing you my best regards,> > Jayashree> --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote:> > > >

` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > I agree with your

explanation.But you see my explanation in my > previous mail.Budha is not

natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I > dont think being Chara BK,he will

not do such a big evil to lose my > younger brother.But he may do harm about

the health of younger co-> born and that he did also.This sad incident happened

in Guru Dasa and > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this

is the > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in

2-12 to each > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

house > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his >

own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes to >

Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd > house,Kuja, the

Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord for > D-3 chart is with Guru

and as a result of this Guru's aspect also did > not help my brother to

survive.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> >

Ramadas Rao.> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > Dear Guruji Shri

Ramadas Rao,> > > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question

being > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to mention >

> with regards to your loss of your younger brother...

Also very > sorry > > to hear about your loss.> > > > In your chart, since

Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK > being > > placed in 3rd house,

doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya, > especially > > since the BK is

conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12 > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun,

also aspected by ® Saturn (though > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is

vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3, he > > should give good results with respect

to all other signification of > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications,

courage, especially > since > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?> > > >

Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw > that > >

there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7 > from > >

lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8

placed in Aries and > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this

suggest that > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

Rasi) > > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for >

other > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good > >

results? > > > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different >

> ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-> banga > >

due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in > Aquarius)...Doesn't > >

this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya due > > to

cancellation of debility?> > > > Kindly consider these as those being presented

for your view as a > > learner.> > > > With best regards,> > > > Jayashree> >

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> > >

wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > Dear

Vishwanadham Ji,> > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> vargothama > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my chart

Guru > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but in > Rasi

> > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when he > > was

21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or sisters.> > > I hope

this helps you.> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > >

> > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > >

> > Dear Gurus & other

learned members,> > > > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the

houses owned > by > > them.> > > > > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like,

planets which are placed > in > > Vargottama amsa?> > > > > > Could any one

please clarify.> > > > > > With much regards> > > viswanadham> > > > > > > >

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November 4, 2003

OM NAMO SHIVAY

Dear Hari, RamaRao Ji and members

Well thanks for sharing your thoughts. Now here is the list of topics

on punya chakra(which was partially covered at west coast conference

and I am not even sure whether I am authorized to give this on the

lists, since west coast CDs are already there for detailed

explanations. Pardon me if I am overstepping my limits here. I am

just giving the topic list and detailed lectures are in those CDs

only. ALso its such a big and complex topic, so it was hard to note

down everything at the conference and all I have is this list and

some general interpretations by JYOTISH GURU Shri Sanjay Rath and

even those interpretations are further limited by my own

understanding. I think that those Cds are the best source for Punya

Chakra )..anyway I think he/no will mind giving this topic list away

and then you can make your own interpretations.

Just compute the punya chakra(rashi chakra at the time and place of

death) and look for the following/planets in following positions:

(I) Initial Refuge of the departed soul

*** 6th HouseDrekkana(16th Drekkana): Sadripu(punishment due to

weaknesses)

*** 7th house(rebirth occurs soon)

*** 8th house drekkana(khara or 22nd drekkana-punishment due to sins)

*** Jupiter's power to veto the negative indications and bless

(II) Intermediate movement of the atma after death

*** Planets in Lagna

*** Three fold division-Bhu, Bhuva and Swarga Loka

(III)Final Abode

***Twelevth house and Importance of Jupiter

***Sastamsa: Dharma and moksha

***Brahma Loka and moksha

***Param padam of Visnu

That's all I have and that's all I know. ALso I think he gave that

SaptaLoka articles before the conference to understand it better

(still trying to understand them)...I will try to locate by

grandfather's punya chakra later on and then make my own

interpretations.

Regards

RMK

vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Rajesh,

>

> Good of you to share your thoughts. About a day or two after my

> father died, I awoke from deep dreamless sleep in the middle of the

> night to find a bright, luminous band of light hovering above me

> which faded away in 2~3 seconds. Even granting that I was sleeping

> or my brain may not have been working properly, I got the feeling

> that my father's soul had come to take one last look at me and that

> event started me seriously on the road to learning more about

life's

> mysteries.

>

> I have a request for you: could you please share your learning of

> the punya chakra, taking your grandfather as an example? I would

> love to extend the same principles to my fathers case just to

> understand more.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > OM NAMO SHIVAY

> > Dear Members and Shri RamaRao ji

> >

> > Just read few emails (after 10 days) on this topic. While I agree

> > with Shree RamaRao ji that BK/3rd Lord in Rashi Sandhi and 3rd

> > house/3rdLord/BK being afflicted by malefics caused the death of

> his

> > younger brother(Rama Rao ji,Please accept my deep sympathies and

> good

> > wishes for the soul), yet I think that the charts(rashi and

> > divisional) of any person (under consideration) are the final

> > controller's of one's life. Our charts can influence our

relatives

> > only to some extent and we are not the controllers of their

> > destinies. Just four days ago one of my very good Uncles passed

> away.

> > He was so enthusiastic and strong throughout his life, yet fell

to

> > Cancer(which was also controlled temporarily to large extent). In

> the

> > end he did not wish to live hooked to Glucose and life saving

> > medications (for almost two months) and wished to leave

> peacefully.

> > He told my cousin brother(his son) that he is being held up

> > unnecessarily for so long as four men in white clothes have

> already

> > come to his house to take him away and he could see them clearly.

> His

> > son told him that they are doctors but he corrected him several

> > times by saying that these four are separate from them and

waiting

> in

> > another room but held up due to all the medications etc., to save

> > him. Similarly my mother's mother(maternal grandmother) passed

> away

> > few months ago and prayed to Lord Vishnu to relieve her of all

> pains

> > (she was in hospital due to a broken hip bone at 84) and in the

> end

> > they both left peacefully.

> >

> > So while we all are in MRITYU_LOKA and fear death, yet when the

> final

> > moment comes , most people(if not all) come to terms with reality

> and

> > desire to leave away peacefully. From a living man's perspective,

> its

> > hard to give away all your materialism, loved ones, relatives and

> > this earth so easily, yet from a dying person's perspective, its

> time

> > to leave the world and start another journey (while the living

> > persons who are trying to save the patient are puzzled and try

> > desperately to save him/her, yet the soul desires to continue on

> its

> > journey and gives some final thoughts in mysterious surprise

> manner;

> > Similarly my own paternal grandfather died on Deepawali night in

> > Nov2001 very peacefully at 91; he did not even want to go to any

> > hospital and knew that he will pass away in the night and told

his

> son

> > (my father) to sleep peacefully and that he will be gone during

> the

> > night. He said so and went away few hours later in the sleep;

From

> > the Punya chakra(learnt at west coast conference) drawn, I learnt

> he

> > has left for the heavens. )

> >

> > (humorously speaking in the end we all are tired of materialism

> > related problems, unemployment/employment related problems,

> diseases,

> > terrorism, wars, children's tensions, spouse's problems etc., etc

> and

> > wish to leave peacefully on our own mysterious journeys and leave

> > this world's woes to those we leave behind, in the same chaotic

> state

> > in which we came to this world ourselves. We came with empty

hands

> > and leave with empty hands, but get involved in never-ending deep

> > materialism throughout our lives due to the tremendous influence

> of

> > KAAL DEVATA, who is supposed to be the real father of Lord SHIVA

> and

> > whom even Lord Shiva is searching continuously.)

> >

> > I thought to share all this , just to provide some comfort and

> > confidence to all, who are still living. Sorry for the long

email,

> > which is not astrologically relevant.

> > Thanks and Regards.

> > RMK.

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Ramesh Ji,

> > > You are corectly said. You can go through my previous mails

> which I

> > sent an hour back.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Ramdasji,

> > >

> > > With due respect I wish to share a point that I read in COVA

> about

> > impact of dictum 'Karka Bhava Nasa' on Naisargika karkas and

Chara

> > Karkas. I am sharing this only because of discussion regarding

the

> > applicability of dictum w.r.t various types of karkas. The point

> in

> > no way contradicts effects of planets in Rasi Sandhi explained by

> you.

> > >

> > > Page 376 point 12.11 says that "dictum.......does not always

> apply

> > to natural significators in the houses signified by them. For Sun

> is

> > not bad in the ninth house nor is Jupiter bad in the second or

> ninth

> > nor is Saturn bad in eight house." The chapter gives more

examples

> > like Venus in 7th etc. Further down it goes on to show that in

> cases

> > of Chara Karkas however, the dictum works.

> > >

> > > Though planet being in Rasi Sandhi may have been an important

> > element in the sad incident of loss of your brother, I also feel

> that

> > dictum even if valid for chara karkas may not do so much harm as

> to

> > take the life of co-born.

> > >

> > > Kind regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]

> > > Monday, November 03, 2003 10:59 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > I agree with your explanation.But you see my explanation in my

> > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only Chara BK and

> I

> > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to lose

> my

> > younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger co-

> > born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru Dasa

> and

> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is

the

> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each

> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

> house

> > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from

his

> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja

comes

> to

> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd

> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord

> for

> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect also

> did

> > not help my brother to survive.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being

> > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to

> mention

> > > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very

> > sorry

> > > to hear about your loss.

> > >

> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK

> > being

> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,

> > especially

> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12

> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though

> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in

3,

> he

> > > should give good results with respect to all other

signification

> of

> > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage, especially

> > since

> > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> > >

> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and

saw

> > that

> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn

7

> > from

> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries

> and

> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

> that

> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

> Rasi)

> > > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for

> > other

> > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good

> > > results?

> > >

> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different

> > > ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-

> > banga

> > > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in

> > Aquarius)...Doesn't

> > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya

> due

> > > to cancellation of debility?

> > >

> > > Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view as

> a

> > > learner.

> > >

> > > With best regards,

> > >

> > > Jayashree

> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> > <ramadasrao>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

> > > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> > vargothama

> > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my chart

> Guru

> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but

in

> > Rasi

> > > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when

> he

> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or

> sisters.

> > > > I hope this helps you.

> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,

> > > >

> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses

> owned

> > by

> > > them.

> > > >

> > > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

> placed

> > in

> > > Vargottama amsa?

> > > >

> > > > Could any one please clarify.

> > > >

> > > > With much regards

> > > > viswanadham

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November 4, 2003

Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -

Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens to be in

the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not give bad

results. Does what I am saying sound right?

Thanks,

- Jai

-

"Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Ramadas ji,

Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations and I

was reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me too,

having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is

Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I

was looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the

divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi alone.

Best regards,

Jayashree

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Jayashree,

> Thanks for the explanations.

> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

> Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,

>

> Again very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,

> even though seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it

really

> does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Mars

and

> ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the

> Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all seem to

> be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he was

not

> able to protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is it

> that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a

> functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in the

> loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana

as

> you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger co-borns

as

> well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-

Karaka

> as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th house

in

> D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for

> causing this great loss.

>

> Thanks for the explanation and once again, very sorry for your loss.

>

> Wishing you my best regards,

>

> Jayashree

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Jayashree,

> > I agree with your explanation.But you see my explanation in my

> previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I

> dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to lose my

> younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger co-

> born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru Dasa

and

> Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is the

> reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each

> other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

house

> is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his

> own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes

to

> Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd

> house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord

for

> D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect also

did

> not help my brother to survive.

> > I hope this helps you.

> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> >

> > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being

> > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to

mention

> > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very

> sorry

> > to hear about your loss.

> >

> > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK

> being

> > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,

> especially

> > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12

> > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though

> > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,

he

> > should give good results with respect to all other signification

of

> > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage, especially

> since

> > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> >

> > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw

> that

> > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7

> from

> > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries

and

> > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest that

> > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

Rasi)

> > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for

> other

> > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good

> > results?

> >

> > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different

> > ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-

> banga

> > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in

> Aquarius)...Doesn't

> > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya

due

> > to cancellation of debility?

> >

> > Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view as a

> > learner.

> >

> > With best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

> > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> vargothama

> > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my chart

Guru

> > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but in

> Rasi

> > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when

he

> > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or

sisters.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,

> > >

> > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses owned

> by

> > them.

> > >

> > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

placed

> in

> > Vargottama amsa?

> > >

> > > Could any one please clarify.

> > >

> > > With much regards

> > > viswanadham

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Dear Viswanadham,

My personal opinion is that not all rasi sandhis are Gandanta. For a

beter definition read Jataka Parijata. Again if we base analysis of a

chart on only one parameter, be it Rasi Sandhi, Gandanta, Debilitated

planet and so on, the possibility of coming to a wrong conclusions

increases. A Chart must be viewed as a whole and analysed.

Chandrashekhar.

H S Viswanadham wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear RamadasJi, Sudarshan & others,

Thanks for your comments, as ever backed by real life

experiences.

>From the West Coast conference- 2002 CD it is clear that Rasi

Sandhi is the one Navamsa on either side of Rasi cusp. Is your

understanding also the same or you prefer to define it differently.

If it is 'Navamsa', then a vargottama Jupiter in both its signs

is bad for those two Houses.

In my own experience,.... i hesitate to say this because last

time i wrote on the list that my Father is happily married for over 50

years, within a fortnight my Mother expired.

I have Jupiter, Saturn,(In Sagittarius), Mercury in Aq & Ven

in Pis are all in Rasi Sandhi (Scorpio- Lagna) if we consider 3.2'.

If we take last 1 degree, as some advocate, then Saturn &

Mercury are in Gandanta.

In any case, i have not experienced any premature deaths in my

family. My Mother died at the age of 62 (though we would love to have

her for some more time).

Now i write this with a prayer to God to give them all a very

long life.

In case of Curses, i understand that Vargottama is not good, in

the sense that the curse is backed by the force of Dharma and therefore

is infallible - one has to experince it.

Is it not that generally Vargottama indicates a dharmic

connection from past life.

How to understand Vargottama, if it has to be always

negative. One should not have Vargottama planets if He\She had done

something nice in the past life!

I hope you understand my confusion, i am stuck here and love to

be enlightened.

With much regards

viswanadham

November 4, 2003

Dear Rema Menon,

Hare Rama Krsna!

Is Sun your bhratrikaraka? In that case Aries Narayana dasha will have

been the Ghatak rasi for your younger brother.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotisha

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November 4, 2003

Dear Ramdasji,

No doubt what you say has a lot of logic, but Vargottam Guru's and

Sun's Aspect on 9th should have rendered Saturn's aspect on 3rd les

effective, than the aspect on 6th. Of course this is my opinion and it

could be disputed.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Ramadas Rao wrote:

`

nmae naray[ay,

om

namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

Regarding disease to become chronic,Shani's

aspect to 6th house and 6th lord is the reason.But for diabetic it was

due to Shani's aspect to Guru who is the Karaka for sweets and is in

Gandantha position .Also Guru is in revathi ruld by Budha who is 6th

and 9th lord and hence the disease has been passed to me by heridity.My

father also was diabetic.See Karaka for father Surya and pitr

Sthanadhipaty Budha are aspected by Shani (V).

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear

Ramdasji,

If you permit, would not lord of 2nd Saturn aspecting 6th be the cause

of the decease? Perhaps Guru in own house and Vargottama did what he is

known to do,"Sthana Brashta", causing short life to younger brother ?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Ramadas Rao wrote:

`

nmae naray[ay,

om

namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sudharsan Ji,

the Marana Karaka Sthana of Guru gave me

a another gift and that is diabetes.I am suffering from this disease

from the age of 31 and the doctors after several diagnosis confirmed

that my pancreas is not working at all.Now I am 52 and I am living with

this disease by controlling my body sugar by various means. Guru in 3rd

house is aspected by Shani (V) from 9th house who is my Lagna and 2nd

lord.Also Guru is in the Nakshatra of Revathi ruled by Budha who is my

6th lord also.

So now you can decide what may be the

reason for all these bad happenings in my life.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108 >

wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Ramadas ji,

Your point is interesting.However,wouldnt the loss of the

attributes of the third house (Brathru Sthana) could also be because of

Jupiter in Marana Karaka sthana(3rd house).Very sorry to hear of your

loss.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsan

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

`

nmae naray[ay,

om

namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi

eventhough they are vargothama fail to protect the house characters

owned by them.In my chart Guru is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own

house of Meena Rasi but in Rasi Sandhi and he could not save my younger

brother.I lost him when he was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have

any brothers or sisters.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com>

wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Gurus & other learned members,

Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses

owned by them.

Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

placed in Vargottama amsa?

Could any one please clarify.

With much regards

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Dear Balagopal ji,

Please explain what is pushkara Navamsa..

Thanks,

Jayashree

vedic astrology, "jai balagopal"

<jbalagop> wrote:

> Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -

>

> Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens

to be in

> the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not

give bad

> results. Does what I am saying sound right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> - Jai

>

> -

> "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

>

> Dear Ramadas ji,

>

> Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations and I

> was reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me too,

> having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is

> Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I

> was looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the

> divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi alone.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jayashree

>

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Jayashree,

> > Thanks for the explanations.

> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,

> >

> > Again very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,

> > even though seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it

> really

> > does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Mars

> and

> > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the

> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all seem

to

> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he was

> not

> > able to protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is

it

> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a

> > functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in

the

> > loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana

> as

> > you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger co-borns

> as

> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-

> Karaka

> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th house

> in

> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for

> > causing this great loss.

> >

> > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very sorry for your

loss.

> >

> > Wishing you my best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > I agree with your explanation.But you see my explanation in my

> > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only Chara BK and

I

> > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to lose

my

> > younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger co-

> > born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru Dasa

> and

> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is the

> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each

> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

> house

> > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his

> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes

> to

> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd

> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord

> for

> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect also

> did

> > not help my brother to survive.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being

> > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to

> mention

> > > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very

> > sorry

> > > to hear about your loss.

> > >

> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK

> > being

> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,

> > especially

> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12

> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though

> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,

> he

> > > should give good results with respect to all other signification

> of

> > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage, especially

> > since

> > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> > >

> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw

> > that

> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7

> > from

> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries

> and

> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

that

> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

> Rasi)

> > > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for

> > other

> > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good

> > > results?

> > >

> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different

> > > ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-

> > banga

> > > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in

> > Aquarius)...Doesn't

> > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya

> due

> > > to cancellation of debility?

> > >

> > > Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view as

a

> > > learner.

> > >

> > > With best regards,

> > >

> > > Jayashree

> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> > <ramadasrao>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

> > > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> > vargothama

> > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my chart

> Guru

> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but in

> > Rasi

> > > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when

> he

> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or

> sisters.

> > > > I hope this helps you.

> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,

> > > >

> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses

owned

> > by

> > > them.

> > > >

> > > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

> placed

> > in

> > > Vargottama amsa?

> > > >

> > > > Could any one please clarify.

> > > >

> > > > With much regards

> > > > viswanadham

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>From what i know, every sign (30deg) has two auspicious navamsas (pushkara

navamsas) and one aupicious degree called puskhara bhaga (also there is a set

of inaupicious degrees called mrityu bhaga - depends on the sign and planet).

Anyway, these puskhara navamsas are owned only by the benefics (Jup, Ven, Mer,

Moo) and give auspicious results (even more so for planets situated in pushkara

bhagaas). Here is a link that gives you the different puskhara navamsas/bhagas.

http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/gamjuly14.html

Hope this helps.

- JaiJayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Balagopal ji,Please explain what is pushkara Navamsa..Thanks,Jayashree---

In vedic astrology, "jai balagopal" wrote:> Dear Ramadas Raoji,

Jayashree and other learned members -> > Although the planet may be in rasi

sandhi, if that planet happens to be in> the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara

bhaga), then it usually does not give bad> results. Does what I am saying sound

right?> > Thanks,> > - Jai> > -> "Jayashree" >

> Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM> [vedic astrology] Re:

Planets in Rasi Sandhi> > > Dear Ramadas ji,> > Actually it is me who is

thanking you for the

explanations and I> was reiterating your points so as to remember better

later. Me too,> having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it

is> Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I> was

looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the> divisionals, besides the

planet being in rasi sandhi alone.> > Best regards,> > Jayashree> > --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > wrote:> >> > ` nmae naray[ay,> >

om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > Thanks for the explanations.> > With

Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Jayashree wrote:> > Dear

Guruji Ramadas Rao,> >> > Again very sorry to have been discussing over this

loss with you,> > even though seeking astrological

explanations. As you said, it> really> > does look clear after looking at D-3

that 3rd house between Mars> and> > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for

Taurus, and Venus the> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for

Mercury all seem to> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi

Sandhi, he was> not> > able to protect or act against these malefic

happenings... Or is it> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3

and also a> > functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in

the> > loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana> as> >

you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger co-borns> as> > well

as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-> Karaka> > as well

that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th house>

in> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for> >

causing this great loss.> >> > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very

sorry for your loss.> >> > Wishing you my best regards,> >> > Jayashree> > ---

In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> > > wrote:> > >> > > ` nmae

naray[ay,> > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Jayashree,> > > I agree with your

explanation.But you see my explanation in my> > previous mail.Budha is not

natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I> > dont think being Chara BK,he will

not do such a big evil to lose my> > younger brother.But he may do harm about

the health of younger co-> > born and that he did also.This sad incident

happened in Guru Dasa> and> > Shukra's

Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is the> > reason for my

brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd

house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd> house> > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu

and aspected by Shani (V) from his> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a

parivartana and so Kuja comes> to> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is

there aspecting my 3rd> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and

12th lord> for> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect

also> did> > not help my brother to survive.> > > I hope this helps you.> > >

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > > Jayashree wrote:> > >

Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,> > >> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u

deem this question being> > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would

like to> mention> > > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also

very> > sorry> > > to hear about your loss.> > >> > > In your chart, since

Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK> > being> > > placed in 3rd house,

doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,> > especially> > > since the BK is

conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun,

also aspected by ® Saturn (though> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is

vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,> he> > > should give good results with respect

to all other signification> of> > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications,

courage, especially> > since> > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?>

> >> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw> >

that> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7> >

from> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries> and>

> > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest that> > >

Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in> Rasi)> > > gives

this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for> > other> > >

significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good> > > results?>

> >> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different> > >

ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-> > banga> > >

due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in> >

Aquarius)...Doesn't> > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava

nashaya> due> > > to cancellation of debility?> > >> > > Kindly consider these

as those being presented for your view as a> > > learner.> > >> > > With best

regards,> > >> > > Jayashree> > > vedic astrology,

Ramadas Rao> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,> > > > The planets which are in Rasi

Sandhi eventhough they are> > vargothama> > > fail to protect the house

characters owned by them.In my chart> Guru> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in

his own house of Meena Rasi but in> > Rasi> > > Sandhi

and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when> he> > > was 21years

old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or> sisters.> > > > I hope this

helps you.> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > >

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Jai Balagopal,

May be this will be an exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about Gandantha

position of planets ? Do you have any practical cases ? I am interested to go

through such charts.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.jai balagopal <jbalagop > wrote:

Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -Although the planet

may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens to be inthe Pushkara navamsa (or

pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not give badresults. Does what I am

saying sound right?Thanks,- Jai-"Jayashree"

<jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com><vedic astrology>Tuesday,

November 04, 2003 12:10 PM[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

SandhiDear Ramadas ji,Actually it is me who is thanking you for the

explanations and Iwas reiterating your points so as to remember better

later. Me too,having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it

isRaman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, Iwas

looking for supporting factors to a

major loss in thedivisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi alone.Best

regards,Jayashreevedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao>wrote:>> ` nmae naray[ay,> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear

Jayashree,> Thanks for the explanations.> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>

Ramadas Rao.> Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> Dear Guruji Ramadas

Rao,>> Again very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,> even

though seeking astrological explanations. As you said, itreally> does look

clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Marsand> ketu, aspected by

Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the> Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in

parivarthan for Mercury all seem to> be the reason, and that since Jupiter was

in Rasi Sandhi, he wasnot> able to protect or act against

these malefic happenings... Or is it> that Jupiter once again became the 8th

lord in D-3 and also a> functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he

participated in the> loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to

parivarthanaas> you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger

co-bornsas> well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the

Gnathi-Karaka> as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th

housein> D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for>

causing this great loss.>> Thanks for the explanation and once again, very

sorry for your loss.>> Wishing you my best regards,>> Jayashree> --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao<ramadasrao>> wrote:> >> > `

nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > I agree

with your explanation.But you see my explanation in my> previous mail.Budha is

not natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I> dont think being Chara BK,he will

not do such a big evil to lose my> younger brother.But he may do harm about the

health of younger co-> born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in

Guru Dasaand> Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is

the> reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each> other.Also in

D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rdhouse> is hemmed between Kuja

and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his> own house.Also Budha and Kuja does

a parivartana and so Kuja comesto> Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there

aspecting my 3rd> house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th

lordfor> D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect alsodid>

not help my

brother to survive.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama

Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > Dear

Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,> >> > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this

question being> > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like

tomention> > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very>

sorry> > to hear about your loss.> >> > In your chart, since Mercury happens to

be the Bhrartu Karak BK> being> > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako

bhava nashya,> especially> > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord

of 3 and 12> > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though> >

lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,he> > should

give good

results with respect to all other significationof> > 3rd house such as efforts,

communications, courage, especially> since> > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th

lord?> >> > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw>

that> > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7> from>

> lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Ariesand> > aspects

Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest that> > Mercury along with

conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (inRasi)> > gives this poor result with

respect to younger sibling but for> other> > significations of the 3rd house,

Jupiter indeed gives very good> > results?> >> > Also, since I'm learning

Jyotish, I also try with different> > ayanamshas and according to Raman,

Mercury also undergoes neech->

banga> > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in> Aquarius)...Doesn't>

> this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashayadue> > to

cancellation of debility?> >> > Kindly consider these as those being presented

for your view as a> > learner.> >> > With best regards,> >> > Jayashree> > ---

In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> <ramadasrao>> > wrote:> >

>> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,> > >

The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are> vargothama> > fail to

protect the house characters owned by them.In my chartGuru> > is Vargothama in

3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but in> Rasi> > Sandhi and he could

not save my younger brother.I

lost him whenhe> > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers

orsisters.> > > I hope this helps you.> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>

> > Ramadas Rao.> > >> > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > > Hare

Rama Krishna> > >> > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,> > >> > > Planets

placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses owned> by> > them.> > >> > >

Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which areplaced> in> >

Vargottama amsa?> > >> > > Could any one please clarify.> > >> > > With much

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Namaste RamdasRaoji,

My 3rd house is not in rashi sandhi, that was a

mistake, actually my 3rd house lord is in gandatha,

but exalted and in devalokamsa (exalted in all

divisions).

Thanks,

Rema

--- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Jai Balagopal,

> May be this will be an exception for Rasi Sandhi but

> what about Gandantha position of planets ? Do you

> have any practical cases ? I am interested to go

> through such charts.

> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

> jai balagopal <jbalagop wrote:

> Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned

> members -

>

> Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that

> planet happens to be in

> the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it

> usually does not give bad

> results. Does what I am saying sound right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> - Jai

>

> -

> "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

> Sandhi

>

> Dear Ramadas ji,

>

> Actually it is me who is thanking you for the

> explanations and I

> was reiterating your points so as to remember better

> later. Me too,

> having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi

> (Mercury if it is

> Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha),

> so in a way, I

> was looking for supporting factors to a major loss

> in the

> divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi

> alone.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jayashree

>

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Jayashree,

> > Thanks for the explanations.

> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,

> >

> > Again very sorry to have been discussing over this

> loss with you,

> > even though seeking astrological explanations. As

> you said, it

> really

> > does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd

> house between Mars

> and

> > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus,

> and Venus the

> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for

> Mercury all seem to

> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi

> Sandhi, he was

> not

> > able to protect or act against these malefic

> happenings... Or is it

> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3

> and also a

> > functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he

> participated in the

> > loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due

> to parivarthana

> as

> > you had stated, Mars the natural significator for

> younger co-borns

> as

> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining

> Venus, the Gnathi-

> Karaka

> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter

> rules 8th house

> in

> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains

> very much for

> > causing this great loss.

> >

> > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very

> sorry for your loss.

> >

> > Wishing you my best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas

> Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > I agree with your explanation.But you see my

> explanation in my

> > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is

> only Chara BK and I

> > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a

> big evil to lose my

> > younger brother.But he may do harm about the

> health of younger co-

> > born and that he did also.This sad incident

> happened in Guru Dasa

> and

> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according

> to me this is the

> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in

> 2-12 to each

> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by

> Mandi and 3rd

> house

> > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by

> Shani (V) from his

> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana

> and so Kuja comes

> to

> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there

> aspecting my 3rd

> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th

> and 12th lord

> for

> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this

> Guru's aspect also

> did

> > not help my brother to survive.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this

> question being

> > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I

> would like to

> mention

> > > with regards to your loss of your younger

> brother... Also very

> > sorry

> > > to hear about your loss.

> > >

> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the

> Bhrartu Karak BK

> > being

> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako

> bhava nashya,

> > especially

> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic

> lord of 3 and 12

> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ®

> Saturn (though

> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and

> as 3rd lord in 3,

> he

> > > should give good results with respect to all

> other signification

> of

> > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications,

> courage, especially

> > since

> > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> > >

> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at

> Dwadasamsa and saw

> > that

> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord

> placed in Capricorn 7

> > from

> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8

> placed in Aries

> and

> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't

> this suggest that

> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected

> by Saturn (in

> Rasi)

> > > gives this poor result with respect to younger

> sibling but for

> > other

>

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|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

-

Chandrashekhar Sharma

vedic astrology

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:26 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Viswanadham,My personal opinion is that not all rasi sandhis are Gandanta.

For a beter definition read Jataka Parijata. Again if we base analysis of a

chart on only one parameter, be it Rasi Sandhi, Gandanta, Debilitated planet

and so on, the possibility of coming to a wrong conclusions increases. A Chart

must be viewed as a whole and analysed.Chandrashekhar.H S Viswanadham wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear RamadasJi, Sudarshan & others,

Thanks for your comments, as ever backed by real life experiences.

>From the West Coast conference- 2002 CD it is clear that Rasi Sandhi is the one

Navamsa on either side of Rasi cusp. Is your understanding also the same or you

prefer to define it differently.

If it is 'Navamsa', then a vargottama Jupiter in both its signs is bad for those two Houses.

In my own experience,.... i hesitate to say this because last time i wrote on

the list that my Father is happily married for over 50 years, within a

fortnight my Mother expired.

I have Jupiter, Saturn,(In Sagittarius), Mercury in Aq & Ven in Pis are all in

Rasi Sandhi (Scorpio- Lagna) if we consider 3.2'.

If we take last 1 degree, as some advocate, then Saturn & Mercury are in Gandanta.

In any case, i have not experienced any premature deaths in my family. My Mother

died at the age of 62 (though we would love to have her for some more time).

Now i write this with a prayer to God to give them all a very long life.

In case of Curses, i understand that Vargottama is not good, in the sense that

the curse is backed by the force of Dharma and therefore is infallible - one

has to experince it.

Is it not that generally Vargottama indicates a dharmic connection from past life.

How to understand Vargottama, if it has to be always negative. One should not

have Vargottama planets if He\She had done something nice in the past life!

I hope you understand my confusion, i am stuck here and love to be enlightened.

With much regards

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Dear Visti, Dear Imran and List,

>From what you've said below Imran, it appears that sandhi can only occur at the

end of the signs. I'm also wondering if it can occur at the beginning of a sign

as well, or is it just endings? Can you please share information regarding this

as to what defines a sandhi. Thank you again Imran for sending the exact

degrees involved.

Greatly appreciated and best regards,

Patrice

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Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

Very good point you have raised. "Sandhi" is generally refered as junctional

point. In literal parlance its mean, boundary; limit; morning or evening

twilight or meeting point of two group. In astrology, this term stands for *

terminating 2 minutes of a zodiacal sign; * terminating 24 seconds of a

navamsha;* terminating 24 minutes of a lunar day(tithi);

November 5, 2003

Dear Patrice,

I have attached a 3 page note on bhava and rashi sandhis which appeared in the

Jyotish Digest last year. Hope this helps in clarifying some of your doubts.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Patrice Curry

[patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net]Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:33 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi

Sandhi

Dear Visti, Dear Imran and List,

>From what you've said below Imran, it appears that sandhi can only occur at the

end of the signs. I'm also wondering if it can occur at the beginning of a sign

as well, or is it just endings? Can you please share information regarding this

as to what defines a sandhi. Thank you again Imran for sending the exact

degrees involved.

Greatly appreciated and best regards,

Patrice

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Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

Very good point you have raised. "Sandhi" is generally refered as junctional

point. In literal parlance its mean, boundary; limit; morning or evening

twilight or meeting point of two group. In astrology, this term stands for *

terminating 2 minutes of a zodiacal sign; * terminating 24 seconds of a

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Dear All,

There is nothing like personal experience:

I have Mercury lord of 11th & 2nd (also as AK and vargottama) in 29Pis42 / 8th

(Lahiri) - a clear rasi sandhi between water and fire (Pis/Ari).

The last 2-1/2 years (Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari) where a simple disaster in

terms of the 11th and 2nd houses - financial losses and lack of proper/stable

income.

Just another (bitter) proof of this theory.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:58 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Patrice,

I have attached a 3 page note on bhava and rashi sandhis which appeared in the

Jyotish Digest last year. Hope this helps in clarifying some of your doubts.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Patrice Curry

[patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net]Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:33 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi

Sandhi

Dear Visti, Dear Imran and List,

>From what you've said below Imran, it appears that sandhi can only occur at the

end of the signs. I'm also wondering if it can occur at the beginning of a sign

as well, or is it just endings? Can you please share information regarding this

as to what defines a sandhi. Thank you again Imran for sending the exact

degrees involved.

Greatly appreciated and best regards,

Patrice

__________________

Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

Very good point you have raised. "Sandhi" is generally refered as junctional

point. In literal parlance its mean, boundary; limit; morning or evening

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Dear Jay,

So you also support my explanation about gandantha and Rasi Sandhi.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao."J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear All,

There is nothing like personal experience:

I have Mercury lord of 11th & 2nd (also as AK and vargottama) in 29Pis42 / 8th

(Lahiri) - a clear rasi sandhi between water and fire (Pis/Ari).

The last 2-1/2 years (Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari) where a simple disaster in

terms of the 11th and 2nd houses - financial losses and lack of proper/stable

income.

Just another (bitter) proof of this theory.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:58 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Patrice,

I have attached a 3 page note on bhava and rashi sandhis which appeared in the

Jyotish Digest last year. Hope this helps in clarifying some of your doubts.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Patrice Curry

[patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net]Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:33 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi

Sandhi

Dear Visti, Dear Imran and List,

>From what you've said below Imran, it appears that sandhi can only occur at the

end of the signs. I'm also wondering if it can occur at the beginning of a sign

as well, or is it just endings? Can you please share information regarding this

as to what defines a sandhi. Thank you again Imran for sending the exact

degrees involved.

Greatly appreciated and best regards,

Patrice

__________________

Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

Very good point you have raised. "Sandhi" is generally refered as junctional

point. In literal parlance its mean, boundary; limit; morning or evening

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Dear Ramadas Rao,

I will support every astrological issue that proves itself to hold true in

reality, and withing a given frame.

As many other contoversities/doubts, also in the case of sandhi we need to

gather sufficient statistic material that will support it ( a future project

maybe ?).

So far I tend to agree with the writings.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:37 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Jay,

So you also support my explanation about gandantha and Rasi Sandhi.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao."J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear All,

There is nothing like personal experience:

I have Mercury lord of 11th & 2nd (also as AK and vargottama) in 29Pis42 / 8th

(Lahiri) - a clear rasi sandhi between water and fire (Pis/Ari).

The last 2-1/2 years (Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari) where a simple disaster in

terms of the 11th and 2nd houses - financial losses and lack of proper/stable

income.

Just another (bitter) proof of this theory.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Sarbani Sarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:58 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Patrice,

I have attached a 3 page note on bhava and rashi sandhis which appeared in the

Jyotish Digest last year. Hope this helps in clarifying some of your doubts.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Patrice Curry

[patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net]Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:33 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi

Sandhi

Dear Visti, Dear Imran and List,

>From what you've said below Imran, it appears that sandhi can only occur at the

end of the signs. I'm also wondering if it can occur at the beginning of a sign

as well, or is it just endings? Can you please share information regarding this

as to what defines a sandhi. Thank you again Imran for sending the exact

degrees involved.

Greatly appreciated and best regards,

Patrice

__________________

Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Its not only your personal oppinion, the Gandanta's only occur at the borders of

Water and Fire Signs - that is the definition of Gandanta.

Sandhi can occur in all signs.

Best wishes, Visti

Very good point you have raised. "Sandhi" is generally refered as junctional

point. In literal parlance its mean, boundary; limit; morning or evening

twilight or meeting point of two group. In astrology, this term stands for *

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Dear Jay,

This Mercury is your chart is in gandanta. As per Light on Life, "Gandanta is

particularly inopportune because it is a double sandhi, a juncture of two

rashis as well as two nakshatras." They go on to say that these points are very

weak and need to be strengthened by appropriate remedies.

But this also shows that they can be strengthened and the importance of

strengthening any planet in gandanta so you can take measures for this Mercury.

Thanks for sharing your actual experience.

Best wishes and regards,

Patrice

____________

Dear All,

There is nothing like personal experience:

I have Mercury lord of 11th & 2nd (also as AK and vargottama) in 29Pis42 / 8th

(Lahiri) - a clear rasi sandhi between water and fire (Pis/Ari).

The last 2-1/2 years (Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari) where a simple disaster in

terms of the 11th and 2nd houses - financial losses and lack of proper/stable

income.

Just another (bitter) proof of this theory.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

November 6, 2003

Dear Balagopal ji,

I checked the web-site you had given. Since Pushkara Navamsa is a

completely new concept to me, I did read in-depth in trying to

understand it. But the author (or web-site) have only explained it at

a higher level - that is, it may be understood by someone who knows

what Pushkara Navamsa is, and only wants some reference for actual

navamsa degrees to verify the same... For example, in the table taken

from the web-site (given below), what do the titles ARIES through

PISCES indicate? (Navamsa lagna or Rasi lagna)

>From what I understand so far -- each sign has 9 sub-divisions of

3*20 degree each, so total sub-divisions for the whole navamsa is

108. Of these 108, 24 constitute pushkara navamsa or auspicious

degrees for planets to be in. The Pushkara Navamsa are given only by

Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Mercury, so only 7 out of the 12 signs in

Navamsa have PN in them.. But when the author states, each sign has 2

PN's, does he mean for example, for a PISCES lagna in Navamsa, the

only 2 possible PN's are 0 - 3*20 of Cancer and 6*20 - 10*00 of

Virgo? and so on for the rest of the signs? (Because the same Cancer

sign's PN degree varies to something like 6*20 .. for a different

sign, ie not Pisces). So do I have to check Navamsa Lagna or Rasi's

lagna in the table to find out it's 2 Pushkara Navamsas (PN)?

The table as given at the web-site:

--

ARIES The 7th Libra or Thula Navamsa 20*00'-23*20' and the 9th

Sagittarius/Dhanu Navamsa 26*40'-30*00' PB is the 21st degree

TAURUS The 3rd Pisces/Meena Navamsa 6*40'-10*00', and the 5th Taurus

13*20'-16*40' PB: The 14th degree. Note this is a Vargottama

Navamsa/VGN:Taurus/Taurus ruled by Venus

GEMINI 6th Pisces 16*40'-20*00' and the 8th Taurus 23*20'-26*40' PB:

24th degree

CANCER The 1st Cancer Navamsa/VGN 0*-3*20', and 3rd Virgo/Kanya 6*40'-

10*00'

PB: 7th degree

LEO 7th Libra 20*00-23*20' and the 9th Sagittarius 26*40'-30*00'

PB: 21st Degree

VIRGO The 3rd Pisces 6*40'-10*00'and the 5th Taurus 13*20-16*40'

PB: 14th degree

LIBRA The 6th Navamsa Pisces 16*40'-20*00', and the 8th Taurus 23*20'-

26*40' PB: 24th degree

SCORPIO The 1st Cancer 0*-3*20' and the 3rd Virgo 6*40'-10*00'.

PB: 7th degree

SAGITTARIUS The 7th Libra 20*00'-23*20' and the 9th Sagittarius/VGN

26*40'-30*00' PB: 21st degree

CAPRICORN The 3rd Pisces 6*40'- 10*00'[ Note the most auspicious

Abhjit Muhurtha- used in electional or Muhurtha work spans 6*40'-

10*53'20" is located here for the most part]And the 5th Taurus

Navamsa 13*20'-16*40' PB: 14th degree

AQUARIUS The 6th Pisces 16*40'-20*00' and the 8th Taurus 23*20'-

26*40' PB: 24th degree

PISCES The 1st Cancer 0*-3*20' and the 3rd

Virgo 6*40'-10*00'

PB: the 7th degree

Could you please explain?

Thanks,

Jayashree

vedic astrology, "jai balagopal"

<jbalagop> wrote:

> Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -

>

> Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens

to be in

> the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not

give bad

> results. Does what I am saying sound right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> - Jai

>

> -

> "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

>

> Dear Ramadas ji,

>

> Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations and I

> was reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me too,

> having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is

> Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I

> was looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the

> divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi alone.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jayashree

>

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Jayashree,

> > Thanks for the explanations.

> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,

> >

> > Again very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,

> > even though seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it

> really

> > does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Mars

> and

> > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the

> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all seem

to

> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he was

> not

> > able to protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is

it

> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a

> > functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in

the

> > loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana

> as

> > you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger co-borns

> as

> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-

> Karaka

> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th house

> in

> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for

> > causing this great loss.

> >

> > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very sorry for your

loss.

> >

> > Wishing you my best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > I agree with your explanation.But you see my explanation in my

> > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only Chara BK and

I

> > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to lose

my

> > younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger co-

> > born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru Dasa

> and

> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is the

> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each

> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

> house

> > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his

> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes

> to

> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd

> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord

> for

> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect also

> did

> > not help my brother to survive.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being

> > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to

> mention

> > > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very

> > sorry

> > > to hear about your loss.

> > >

> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak BK

> > being

> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,

> > especially

> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and 12

> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though

> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,

> he

> > > should give good results with respect to all other signification

> of

> > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage, especially

> > since

> > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> > >

> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw

> > that

> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7

> > from

> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries

> and

> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

that

> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

> Rasi)

> > > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for

> > other

> > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good

> > > results?

> > >

> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different

> > > ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-

> > banga

> > > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in

> > Aquarius)...Doesn't

> > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya

> due

> > > to cancellation of debility?

> > >

> > > Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view as

a

> > > learner.

> > >

> > > With best regards,

> > >

> > > Jayashree

> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> > <ramadasrao>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

> > > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> > vargothama

> > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my chart

> Guru

> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but in

> > Rasi

> > > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him when

> he

> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or

> sisters.

> > > > I hope this helps you.

> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,

> > > >

> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses

owned

> > by

> > > them.

> > > >

> > > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

> placed

> > in

> > > Vargottama amsa?

> > > >

> > > > Could any one please clarify.

> > > >

> > > > With much regards

> > > > viswanadham

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November 6, 2003

Dear Patrice,

Thanks for "reminding" me of Gandanta - how else could I forget ?

Strengthinig will not be necessary as this period is about to become "past" very

shortly and the harm is already done...

For those who don't know what Gandanta is:

The combinations of 'Moola Nakshatra' with 'Jyestha' and of 'Revati Nakshatra'

with 'Ashwini Nakshatra' till the period of 7 Ghatikas cause 'Ganda Moola'.

These combinations are considered to be the most inauspicious moment, which

cause undesired calamities. The combination of Moola and Jyestha Nakshatras is

called 'ABHUKTA'.

A child, an animal or a servant born during this particular 'Abhukta' brings

misfortune to his family or master. For the welfare of the child, who has taken

birth in the above mentioned combinations of Nakshatras, it is necessary to

pacify the Nakshatras in 27 days, when the same Nakshatras reposition

themselves. If a child, born in this Abhukta ,survives, he brings name, fame

and wealth to his family.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Patrice Curry

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:08 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Planets in Rasi Sandhi

Dear Jay,

This Mercury is your chart is in gandanta. As per Light on Life, "Gandanta is

particularly inopportune because it is a double sandhi, a juncture of two

rashis as well as two nakshatras." They go on to say that these points are very

weak and need to be strengthened by appropriate remedies.

But this also shows that they can be strengthened and the importance of

strengthening any planet in gandanta so you can take measures for this Mercury.

Thanks for sharing your actual experience.

Best wishes and regards,

Patrice

____________

Dear All,

There is nothing like personal experience:

I have Mercury lord of 11th & 2nd (also as AK and vargottama) in 29Pis42 / 8th

(Lahiri) - a clear rasi sandhi between water and fire (Pis/Ari).

The last 2-1/2 years (Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari) where a simple disaster in

terms of the 11th and 2nd houses - financial losses and lack of proper/stable

income.

Just another (bitter) proof of this theory.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

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Dear Jay,

Thank you for all this information below regarding Abhukta. I had not heard of

it before and it's interesting.

As far as what you've said: "Strengthening will not be necessary as this period

is about to become "past" very shortly and the harm is already done..."

I'm sure you would know better than I for your own chart and life, however I

don't think that the fact this bhukti period of Mercury has passed with regards

to what you wrote in an earlier email, specifying Saturn/Mercury dasa, would

mean that Mercury doesn't need strengthening in your chart. From what I've read

in Light on Life, "Grahas located at these points are very weak, and indicate

major problems in the native's life unless the grahas involved are strengthened

by appropriate remedies."

Mainly I'm clarifying this as I think it's important for others as well to understand this.

All best wishes,

Patrice

___________

Dear Patrice,

Thanks for "reminding" me of Gandanta - how else could I forget ?

Strengthinig will not be necessary as this period is about to become "past" very

shortly and the harm is already done...

For those who don't know what Gandanta is:

The combinations of 'Moola Nakshatra' with 'Jyestha' and of 'Revati Nakshatra'

with 'Ashwini Nakshatra' till the period of 7 Ghatikas cause 'Ganda Moola'.

These combinations are considered to be the most inauspicious moment, which

cause undesired calamities. The combination of Moola and Jyestha Nakshatras is

called 'ABHUKTA'.

A child, an animal or a servant born during this particular 'Abhukta' brings

misfortune to his family or master. For the welfare of the child, who has taken

birth in the above mentioned combinations of Nakshatras, it is necessary to

pacify the Nakshatras in 27 days, when the same Nakshatras reposition

themselves. If a child, born in this Abhukta ,survives, he brings name, fame

and wealth to his family.

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

November 6, 2003

Dear Ramadas Raoji -

How are you doing? Pushkara navamsa/bhagas are not found in any of these

gandantha positions. Also from what i have seen, gandantha positions are an

unfortunate position for a planet to be in. With my very limited knowledge, i

have see charts where a planet was exalted in devalokamsa (like sun in aries-

0deg, etc) and still doesn't help the native all that much, because it is in

gandantha.

Regards,

- Jai

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Jai Balagopal,

May be this will be an exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about Gandantha

position of planets ? Do you have any practical cases ? I am interested to go

through such charts.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.jai balagopal <jbalagop > wrote:

Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -Although the planet

may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens to be inthe Pushkara navamsa (or

pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not give badresults. Does what I am

saying sound right?Thanks,- Jai-"Jayashree"

<jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com><vedic astrology>Tuesday,

November 04, 2003 12:10 PM[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

SandhiDear Ramadas ji,Actually it is me who is thanking you for the

explanations and Iwas reiterating your points so as to remember better

later. Me too,having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it

isRaman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, Iwas

looking for supporting factors to a major loss in thedivisionals, besides the

planet being in rasi sandhi alone.Best regards,Jayashree--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>wrote:>> ` nmae

naray[ay,> om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Jayashree,> Thanks for the explanations.>

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> Jayashree

<jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,>> Again very sorry to

have been discussing over this loss with you,> even though seeking astrological

explanations. As you said, itreally> does look clear after looking at D-3 that

3rd house between Marsand> ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus,

and Venus the> Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all seem

to> be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he wasnot> able to

protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is it> that Jupiter once

again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a> functional malefic for Capricorn

(rasi) that he participated in the> loss rather than protect against it?

Anyways, due to parivarthanaas> you had stated, Mars the natural significator

for younger co-bornsas> well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the

Gnathi-Karaka> as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th

housein> D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much for>

causing this great loss.>> Thanks for the explanation and once again, very

sorry for your loss.>> Wishing you my best regards,>> Jayashree> --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao<ramadasrao>> wrote:> >> > `

nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > I agree with your

explanation.But you see my explanation in my> previous mail.Budha is not

natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I> dont think being Chara BK,he will not

do such a big evil to lose my> younger brother.But he may do harm about the