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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Rakesh,and followers of this thread. et al

In case you and or others havent noticed yet...this group is made up

of astrology students who follow and or are interested in the

teachings of Sanjay Rath, and his students,etc..if you dont like it,

approve of it, or whatever- GO SOMEWHERE else and save us the

irritation of listening to you go on.

IF YOU WERE SO INTELLIGENT (YOU CRITICS OF MONEY MAKING)...YOU WOULD

REALIZE THAT THESE CONFERENCES COST MONEY TO PUT ON.LIVING AND

EXISTING COSTS MONEY ,TRAVELING COSTS ALOT OF MONEY, SUPPORTING YOUR

FAmILY COSTS MONEY, PRINTING BOOKS COSTS MONEY, AND SO DOES

EVERYTHING ELSE.

Not only that CONFERENCES,writing books,etc requires alot of work

and planning.So believe me it is a labor of love..and for your

information, Sanjay doesnt receive the money from the conferences.

it goes to the cost of putting them on...and , and if, if, there is

left over it goes to benefit SJC.

Really it is a thank less task what Sanjay does, the amount of his

personal time and energy he gives gives, gives, ..doesnt compare to

what he gets, now if there are people who can afford to consult him

for their personal issues,what is the problem?

Sanjay has given and gives to many people who dont give a penny they

just take take and take , and meanwhile they wont even pay a small

fee for a membership to SJC.!!yes, even though they CAN afford it!

(how many of you have paid your membership fee)?

So, you see..if there were more generous types or people who

realized they should give somehow or other for what they get then

there would be a balance.

Also, unless there are some BIG,GENEROUS,MONEY MAKING DONORS WHO ARE

WILLING TO DONATE SUBSTANCIAL SUMS OF MONEY TO SUPPORT FULL TIME

ASTROLOGERS THEN WERE DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY GET IT???

ITS NOT LIKE IN THE GOOD OL DAYS WHERE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THE

KING SUPPORTED THE ASTROLGER AND THEIR FAMILIY.HAVENT WE BEEN

THROUGH THIS SCENARIO BEFORE?

So all i have to say is get real!

Donate just a few hours each month of your big fat paychecks and

perhaps, Sanjay, and others can relax a little work on their books

and concentrate 100% of their energy on teaching astrology instead

of earnign to survive,personally I'd rather Sanjay be a full time

astrologer and take money than work at a private job and have to

sneak off and send a few posts on his break from work..like many

have to.

Anyway hope you get my point. Lets forget this and get into asto and

hope sanjay and the gurus have time to post, so we can learn- which

is why we are here isnt it???

With best wishes

Lakshmi kary

 

vedic astrology, "rakesh kapoor"

<ricksk99@r...> wrote:

> KUN JYO

> Astrology is supposed to be a divine science a Ved Anga whivh

should lead to Vedanta and Atma Jnana. Astrology is not like

medicine which deals with Tangible objects. Astrology deals with the

OCCULT the un known and great sages in their spiritual instructiond

clearly advise their students who are SADHAKS not to use astrology

to make money. I am not jealous because I have already earned lot of

money without Jyotish.

>

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 Kun Jyo wrote :

> >Rakesh,

> >

> >May be whatever you say is true. May be K.N.Rao made trips to USA

for the sake of money. May be Sanjay Rath is taking lectures for

money. May be there are more people like that who are doing this,

while you were writting this mail & while I am writing this mail.

> >

> >NOW TELL ME SOMETHING. SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL IN THAT? WHAT IS

THE PROBLEM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO EARN MONEY?

> >Are you not greedy for money? Dont you earn money because of your

own knowledge? Dont doctors treat patients and earn money from it?

If yes then what is the harm in astrologers earning money out of

astrology?. Tell me, have your read in any of the scriptures not to

earn money using your knowlege?. Is it written in any Vedas or

anywhere else? If yes i would like to know where is it written.

> >You have written that K.N.Rao may be doing this because he needs

enough money during his retirement. Is that thought wrong? Tommorrow

everybody will be retired & old & wont have enough energy in them to

earn any living. Even you. R u not thinking of saving enough money

for your retirement? Dont you think thats natural for a person to

think this way? Mr. K.N.Rao found it in the way of astrology. So

whats the problem.

> >

> >FORGET ALL THAT RAKESH. WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS WHETHER K.N.

RAO OR SANJAY RATH EARN/MAKE ANY MONEY OR NOT.

> >WE ARE ALL HERE (atleast i am, i dont know about others) TO

LEARN ABOUT ASTROLOGY & NOT HERE TO PRICK IN OTHER PEOPLES PERSONAL

LIFE OF HOW THEY MAKE OR SPEND THEIR MONEY.

> >

> >I AM SORRY IF I HAVE SOUNDED RUDE. BUT YOUR MAIL JUST POINTS OUT

ONE THING RAKESH. THAT YOU ARE JEALOUS ABOUT SOMETHING OR YOU

WOULDNOT HAVE BOTHERED TO WRITE SUCH STATEMENTS.

> >

> >

> >

> >rakesh kapoor <ricksk99@r...> wrote:

> >

> >GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS

SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay

Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making

money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or

European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know

the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving

consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a

friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO

CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now

he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux

of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In

India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals

and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for

Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna

some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and

want

> > to use it for the service of people do it silently without

monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making

trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid

well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to

make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON

MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have

left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money

writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all

a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives.

They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING

ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT

ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as

GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are

MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they

trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO

> > becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless

these GREEDY astrologers.

> >

> >On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote :

> > >Om Gurave Namah

> > >Dear Rakesh,

> > >

> > > > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF.

> > > > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD

> > > > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion

> > > > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single

> > > > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in

> > > > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended

> > > > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money

> > > > generating GIMMICK.

> > >

> > >Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event

> > >I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish

> > >Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it?

> > >

> > >Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW!

> > >I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations

> > >(and there were no strings attached like "minimum

> > >suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By

> > >God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our

> > >rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a

> > >loss too!

> > >

> > >If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After

> > >all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you

> > >say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it.

> > >

> > > > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar.

> > > > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only

> > > > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all

> > > > meaningless.

> > > >

> > > > OM

> > >

> > >In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend,

> > >I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and

> > >pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of

> > >importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important.

> > >

> > >I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you

> > >seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless"

> > >concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto

> > >deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice

> > >principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them

> > >along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to

> > >explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to

> > >show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the

> > >focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa.

> > >

> > >Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari

> > >dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If

> > >you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC

> > >on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn

> > >something from me and I will learn something from you.

> > >

> > >Hope this helps.

> > >

> > >At your service,

> > >Narasimha

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