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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Tanvir ji,

 

Namaste.

 

Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the

questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).

 

Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the

image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror

is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what

does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the

mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the

person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image.

The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind)

and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will

show how the native perceives the various events happening to

himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the

actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how

to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question.

Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my

favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially

Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you

are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my

opinion, sums up the AL.

 

Returning back to your questions:-

 

> One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi

> Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer.

>Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in

>the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer?

>What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?

 

Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have

observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated

with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to

AL, then the job change is favorable".

 

Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to

interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's

career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that

we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a

reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha

would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be

delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a

composite picture of the situation along with transits.

 

Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I

cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?

 

regards

Hari

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Dear Hari,

 

Good post.I thought of adding a few lines more from what I have gleaned from the

Gurus.The karaka for AL is the Moon. In nature we see that the Moon controls

tides and since our image in this society goes through tides of ups and downs,

its signified by the moon.But the satya peetha(1 and 7) remains steady. So

Vimsottari Dasa can be used without a doubt to time events from the Arudhas.

THe difference is that Vimsottari will show how the native reacts to events

while the Rasi Dasas such as Narayana will show the actual changes in the

environment.Thus the actual changes in environment are better to predict

events as they are crystal clear.

 

Hare Krishna

 

Sudharsan

onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Tanvir ji,Namaste.Although your query is addressed

to Rao ji, I will try to answer the questions posed by you with respect to

arudha lagna (AL).Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person

sees the image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror

is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what does the AL

show? It is similar to the question of what does the mirror show? In other

words, how the image is perceived both by the person standing in front and by

others also viewing the same image. The first perception is given by the Moon

(significator of the mind) and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the

Moons position will show how the native perceives the various events happening

to himself. Similarly the AL will show how

the world perceives the actions done by the native. But you have posed the

question of how to link the two? At least that is how I understand your

question. Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my

favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially Louis L'Amour.

One common theme in these books is "In the West, you are judged on your actions

and not on who you are". This in my opinion, sums up the AL.Returning back to

your questions:-> One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in

Rashi > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer.

>Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in >the

vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? >What does it

mean, what kind of result can be expected then?Lets digress here by quoting a

classic Narasimha post "I have observed that planets

in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated with change of job but if the same

planets be placed in trines to AL, then the job change is favorable".Clearly

there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to interpret what sort of

events may happen with respect to a native's career. But in which period: MD or

AD or PAD? My logic tells me that we will have to search for combinations in

order to come up with a reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as

Narayana Dasha would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be

delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a composite

picture of the situation along with transits.Hope this answers your questions

somewhat, :-). As for example, I cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making

sense here?regardsHariArchives:

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Dear Only hari

Very nice explanation of AL.

But I disagree with your quote "In the West, you are judged on your actions and

not on who you are".

I have been living in the west for over 40 years and most of the times I have

found that in the West you are judged on who you are and not on your

actions.Let us call it perceptions.

Atma

 

-

onlyhari

vedic astrology

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM

[vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Tanvir ji,Namaste.Although your query is addressed

to Rao ji, I will try to answer the questions posed by you with respect to

arudha lagna (AL).Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person

sees the image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror

is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what does the AL

show? It is similar to the question of what does the mirror show? In other

words, how the image is perceived both by the person standing in front and by

others also viewing the same image. The first perception is given by the Moon

(significator of the mind) and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the

Moons position will show how the native perceives the various events happening

to himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the actions done

by the native. But you have posed the question of how to link the two? At least

that is how I understand your question. Before progressing further, I will

quote a favorite saying from my favorite genre of fiction books viz., western

novels especially Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the

West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my

opinion, sums up the AL.Returning back to your questions:-> One of my important

question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ?

Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the

cancer dasha or also in >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets

in cancer? >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?Lets

digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have observed that planets

in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated with change of job but if the

same planets be placed in trines to AL, then the job change is

favorable".Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to

interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's career. But

in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that we will have to search

for combinations in order to come up with a reasonable answer. But to ignore

rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha would be suicidal since the implications of

arudhas can be delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to

form a composite picture of the situation along with transits.Hope this answers

your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I cant rustle up one...wonder if I

am making sense here?regardsHariArchives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Atma,

 

For starters, my name is not only Hari but simply Hari! The

reference to West was the wild, wild Ol'West where Kiowas whooped

down the war trail looking for fresh scalps and cowboys rode the

range beating the Texas longhorns into submission for the annual

trail drive to Kansas. As you said, let's agree to disagree, :-)

 

regards

Hari

 

 

vedic astrology, "Atma Prakash" <atma@a...>

wrote:

> Dear Only hari

> Very nice explanation of AL.

> But I disagree with your quote "In the West, you are judged on

your actions and not on who you are".

> I have been living in the west for over 40 years and most of the

times I have found that in the West you are judged on who you are

and not on your actions.Let us call it perceptions.

> Atma

>

> -

> onlyhari

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM

> [vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir

>

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Tanvir ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer

the

> questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).

>

> Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees

the

> image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the

mirror

> is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But

what

> does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the

> mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by

the

> person standing in front and by others also viewing the same

image.

> The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the

mind)

> and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position

will

> show how the native perceives the various events happening to

> himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the

> actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of

how

> to link the two? At least that is how I understand your

question.

> Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from

my

> favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially

> Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West,

you

> are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my

> opinion, sums up the AL.

>

> Returning back to your questions:-

>

> > One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in

Rashi

> > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in

cancer.

> >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also

in

> >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in

cancer?

> >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?

>

> Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have

> observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are

associated

> with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines

to

> AL, then the job change is favorable".

>

> Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to

> interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a

native's

> career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me

that

> we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with

a

> reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana

Dasha

> would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be

> delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to

form a

> composite picture of the situation along with transits.

>

> Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example,

I

> cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?

>

> regards

> Hari

>

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Dear Hari,

I liked your post- I understood you wanted to be 'politically corrcet' when

drawing paralel between West and East, west being used as a synonim for Nort

America.

Other 'west' from India is Europe, and due to its set of videly acceprete

value, I'd say you are judged prumarily on what you are- but expression what

you are is WHAT you DO, so, this may not be a good formulation.

If what you do we apply on NA area, as 'what's your monetary worth' that does

exist, indeed. /At first I found the very phraze very frustrating,

narrow-minded and insulteing, in fact/

Generaly who you are is ACTION proven-hoe else would we be able to talk on this

issue? If your net worth /NA/ low in dollars, people may trnd not to bother

further.

In Europe with lower speed of living, shat DO definis you worth, not only mone,

but broad range of actions- how lotal friend you are, how compationed you are,

what you do with your talent and other personality assets- money doesn't hurt

to have it, either.

Old Lady Europe is too much life focussed- NA money and work focussed. Life

tempe in Europe is slower, they simplu have enough time to deal with small

things that make life big. And people immigrate to NA for old Lady

is not just wasmer, it seems to drag behing NA financially. That contributs to

less than positive definition of 'life centered Europr vs, money c. NA

Tough choice to me made.

Hari, Only Hari, I started compiling info on AK and wonder if you'll join. In

couple of days when I fixed computer.Please do get 'together, to 'brainstorm'

if you wish

Greetings,

Anna

 

vedic astrology, "Atma Prakash" <atma@a...> wrote:> Dear

Only hari> Very nice explanation of AL.> But I disagree with your quote "In the

West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". > I have been

living in the west for over 40 years and most of the times I have found that in

the West you are judged on who you are and not on your actions.Let us call it

perceptions.> Atma > > - > onlyhari >

vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16

AM> [vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir> > > ||Om

Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Tanvir ji,> > Namaste.> > Although your

query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to

answer the > questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).> >

Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the > image

reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror > is the lagna

and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what > does the AL show? It

is similar to the question of what does the > mirror show? In other words,

how the image is perceived both by the > person standing in front and by

others also viewing the same image. > The first perception is given by the

Moon (significator of the mind) > and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed

from the Moons position will > show how the native perceives the various

events happening to > himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world

perceives the > actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of

how > to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. >

Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my > favorite

genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially > Louis L'Amour. One

common theme in these books is "In the West, you > are judged on your actions

and not on who you are". This in my > opinion, sums up the AL.> > Returning

back to your questions:-> > > One of my important question is, does Arudha

use only in Rashi > > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls

in cancer. > >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or

also in >

>the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? > >What

does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?> > Lets digress here

by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have > observed that planets in

dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated > with change of job but if the

same planets be placed in trines to > AL, then the job change is favorable".>

> Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to > interpret

what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's > career. But in

which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that > we will have to

search for combinations in order to come up with a > reasonable answer. But

to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha > would be suicidal

since the implications of arudhas can be > delineated in a simpler way. Both

should be used in order to form a > composite picture of the situation along

with transits.> > Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for

example, I > cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?> >

regards> Hari> > > > > Sponsor >

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