Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Tanvir ji, Namaste. Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL). Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image. The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind) and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will show how the native perceives the various events happening to himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my opinion, sums up the AL. Returning back to your questions:- > One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then? Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to AL, then the job change is favorable". Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a composite picture of the situation along with transits. Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here? regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Hari, Good post.I thought of adding a few lines more from what I have gleaned from the Gurus.The karaka for AL is the Moon. In nature we see that the Moon controls tides and since our image in this society goes through tides of ups and downs, its signified by the moon.But the satya peetha(1 and 7) remains steady. So Vimsottari Dasa can be used without a doubt to time events from the Arudhas. THe difference is that Vimsottari will show how the native reacts to events while the Rasi Dasas such as Narayana will show the actual changes in the environment.Thus the actual changes in environment are better to predict events as they are crystal clear. Hare Krishna Sudharsan onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Tanvir ji,Namaste.Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image. The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind) and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will show how the native perceives the various events happening to himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my opinion, sums up the AL.Returning back to your questions:-> One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to AL, then the job change is favorable".Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a composite picture of the situation along with transits.Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?regardsHariArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Please Chant ---- HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE and Be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Only hari Very nice explanation of AL. But I disagree with your quote "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". I have been living in the west for over 40 years and most of the times I have found that in the West you are judged on who you are and not on your actions.Let us call it perceptions. Atma - onlyhari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM [vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Tanvir ji,Namaste.Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image. The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind) and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will show how the native perceives the various events happening to himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my opinion, sums up the AL.Returning back to your questions:-> One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to AL, then the job change is favorable".Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a composite picture of the situation along with transits.Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?regardsHariArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Atma, For starters, my name is not only Hari but simply Hari! The reference to West was the wild, wild Ol'West where Kiowas whooped down the war trail looking for fresh scalps and cowboys rode the range beating the Texas longhorns into submission for the annual trail drive to Kansas. As you said, let's agree to disagree, :-) regards Hari vedic astrology, "Atma Prakash" <atma@a...> wrote: > Dear Only hari > Very nice explanation of AL. > But I disagree with your quote "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". > I have been living in the west for over 40 years and most of the times I have found that in the West you are judged on who you are and not on your actions.Let us call it perceptions. > Atma > > - > onlyhari > vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM > [vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Tanvir ji, > > Namaste. > > Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the > questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL). > > Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the > image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror > is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what > does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the > mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the > person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image. > The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind) > and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will > show how the native perceives the various events happening to > himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the > actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how > to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. > Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my > favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially > Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you > are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my > opinion, sums up the AL. > > Returning back to your questions:- > > > One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. > >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in > >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? > >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then? > > Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have > observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated > with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to > AL, then the job change is favorable". > > Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to > interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's > career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that > we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a > reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha > would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be > delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a > composite picture of the situation along with transits. > > Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I > cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here? > > regards > Hari > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Hari, I liked your post- I understood you wanted to be 'politically corrcet' when drawing paralel between West and East, west being used as a synonim for Nort America. Other 'west' from India is Europe, and due to its set of videly acceprete value, I'd say you are judged prumarily on what you are- but expression what you are is WHAT you DO, so, this may not be a good formulation. If what you do we apply on NA area, as 'what's your monetary worth' that does exist, indeed. /At first I found the very phraze very frustrating, narrow-minded and insulteing, in fact/ Generaly who you are is ACTION proven-hoe else would we be able to talk on this issue? If your net worth /NA/ low in dollars, people may trnd not to bother further. In Europe with lower speed of living, shat DO definis you worth, not only mone, but broad range of actions- how lotal friend you are, how compationed you are, what you do with your talent and other personality assets- money doesn't hurt to have it, either. Old Lady Europe is too much life focussed- NA money and work focussed. Life tempe in Europe is slower, they simplu have enough time to deal with small things that make life big. And people immigrate to NA for old Lady is not just wasmer, it seems to drag behing NA financially. That contributs to less than positive definition of 'life centered Europr vs, money c. NA Tough choice to me made. Hari, Only Hari, I started compiling info on AK and wonder if you'll join. In couple of days when I fixed computer.Please do get 'together, to 'brainstorm' if you wish Greetings, Anna vedic astrology, "Atma Prakash" <atma@a...> wrote:> Dear Only hari> Very nice explanation of AL.> But I disagree with your quote "In the West, you are judged on your actions and not on who you are". > I have been living in the west for over 40 years and most of the times I have found that in the West you are judged on who you are and not on your actions.Let us call it perceptions.> Atma > > - > onlyhari > vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:16 AM> [vedic astrology] Bhava Lagna ? For Tanvir> > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Tanvir ji,> > Namaste.> > Although your query is addressed to Rao ji, I will try to answer the > questions posed by you with respect to arudha lagna (AL).> > Think of a person standing in front of a mirror; the person sees the > image reflected in the mirror. The person standing before the mirror > is the lagna and the image shown by the mirror is the AL. But what > does the AL show? It is similar to the question of what does the > mirror show? In other words, how the image is perceived both by the > person standing in front and by others also viewing the same image. > The first perception is given by the Moon (significator of the mind) > and hence the Vimsottari dasha computed from the Moons position will > show how the native perceives the various events happening to > himself. Similarly the AL will show how the world perceives the > actions done by the native. But you have posed the question of how > to link the two? At least that is how I understand your question. > Before progressing further, I will quote a favorite saying from my > favorite genre of fiction books viz., western novels especially > Louis L'Amour. One common theme in these books is "In the West, you > are judged on your actions and not on who you are". This in my > opinion, sums up the AL.> > Returning back to your questions:-> > > One of my important question is, does Arudha use only in Rashi > > Dasha, or also in Vimsottari ? Suppose, my A9 falls in cancer. > >Thus, will the effect manifest in only the cancer dasha or also in > >the vimsottari of Moon (Lord of cancer) or the planets in cancer? > >What does it mean, what kind of result can be expected then?> > Lets digress here by quoting a classic Narasimha post "I have > observed that planets in dusthanas to A10 in dasamsa are associated > with change of job but if the same planets be placed in trines to > AL, then the job change is favorable".> > Clearly there is a reliance on the use of Vimsottari Dasha to > interpret what sort of events may happen with respect to a native's > career. But in which period: MD or AD or PAD? My logic tells me that > we will have to search for combinations in order to come up with a > reasonable answer. But to ignore rashi dasas such as Narayana Dasha > would be suicidal since the implications of arudhas can be > delineated in a simpler way. Both should be used in order to form a > composite picture of the situation along with transits.> > Hope this answers your questions somewhat, :-). As for example, I > cant rustle up one...wonder if I am making sense here?> > regards> Hari> > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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