Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear respected members, I see that a lot of you have really profound knowledge of scriptures, both in the conceptual as well as in the metaphysical planes. I read the following at www.gsbkerala.com/satanar.htm#forms about the 4 forms of Vishnu. I wish to understand it very much since the content seems to exemplify the meanings of 'Parkadal', 'Vaikuntham', etc. in the metaphysical sense. I'm not able to understand it all in the metaphysical sense of it. Can someone please explain it to me, in whatever way you understand this: "Types of Vishnu Pauranikas consider Narayana or Vishnu as of four types based on the celestial world — 1. The Lord of Paradise (Vaikunta Nadha) 2. The Lord-lying on the ocean of celestial waters (Anantha sayana) 3. The inhabitant of the white Island (Sweta Dvipa), and 4. The Lord of Goloka (Golokanadha). 1. Jyotistoma is the region of light from the earth to 21st plane. It is full of fire. It is Vaikuntanatha–the first sacrifice. "This fiery and divine sacrifice (Swaha yajna) consists of 34 utterances and the 21st plane is its establishment (Pratista). Thirty three fire-deities related to Vishnu are its limbs. The whole of these deities is Vaikuntanadha Vishnu". He will be awake for eight months and sleeps for four months. During these four months, there will be dominating influence of water and the fire becomes recessive. So the sacrifices will be destroyed. This is what we call `sleep of Vishnu'. 2. Dwadasa yajna extends from 22nd plane to 33rd plane which is full of spiritual water (Apa) and essence (Soma). This is the Lord Vishnu lying on the Ocean. He is said to be having 34 utterances including Prajapati (Pridvi). He is the second Vishnu. Vishnu of the celestial ocean, always sleeps and often awakes. The Splendour of ignition (Agni) is the waking state. The ignition will be weak in the sea and hence the sacrifice will be slackened. The word `sleep' denotes this condition. 3. Navaha yajna starts from 17th plane to 25th plane. The sacrificial Vishnu of this region will have white island as His habitation but is established at 21st level. He is the third Vishnu called Lord Satyanarayana. As Satyanarayana will always be in self-mortification, He is always awake. He never sleeps since Navaha yajna at 21st plane uniformly continues throughout the year. 4. Pancha Dasaha yajna extends from 22nd plane to 36th plane. It is uttered by Sama Veda. Here Gau spirits are born and hence is called Gosava or Goloka. It is established at 29th plane. This region is pervaded by the ocean, a form of spiritual water, air and essence. The spiritual waters are the form of cows (Gua Spirits). They are of spreading nature. This is the supreme world (Paramesti). Lord Vishnu of this world is called Govinda. These four divisions belong to Pridvi that extends up to 33rd level. Thus they are the four dwellings places of the four types of Vishnu. The Lord of Goloka has two arms but the others are four-armed. Lord Satyanarayana owing to utter blackness is white in complexion. The other three are blue in color. As Satyanarayana is an embodiment of Tapas, (self- mortification). He has no wife. The others forms have wives. Govinda Vishnu's wife is Radha. She is the splendour of Vak (Vagjyoti) and carrier of wisdom (Janana Vahini). Lakshmi is the consort of Samudra Seyana Vishnu. She should be considered as Padma (Pridvi) born of the sea having the quality of terrestrial atoms (mrit paramanu lakshana). Vaikuntanatha has five wives – Pridvi, Tulasi, Ganga, Saraswati and Lakshmi. But he is considered to be having two wives – Sri Devi and Lakshmi (Bhudevi), perhaps the reason is the three wives Pridvi, Tulasi, and Saraswati are accepted by the word `Sree'. Here `Pridvi' means celestial waters called `maras' the source of the Earth. Tulasi means the waters of Solar rays called marichis, the source of medicinal herbs and plants. Ganga means waters called `ambhas'. " Thanks, Jayashree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear Jayashree, There is a article by name "foundation" in this groups file-section. Please read the same for a very good explanation of the different Vishnu Deities and their role. The article is very good in the metaphysical sense and connect many concepts. Hare Krishna SudharsanJayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Dear respected members,I see that a lot of you have really profound knowledge of scriptures, both in the conceptual as well as in the metaphysical planes. I read the following at www.gsbkerala.com/satanar.htm#forms about the 4 forms of Vishnu. I wish to understand it very much since the content seems to exemplify the meanings of 'Parkadal', 'Vaikuntham', etc. in the metaphysical sense. I'm not able to understand it all in the metaphysical sense of it. Can someone please explain it to me, in whatever way you understand this:"Types of VishnuPauranikas consider Narayana or Vishnu as of four types based on the celestial world — 1. The Lord of Paradise (Vaikunta Nadha) 2. The Lord-lying on the ocean of celestial waters (Anantha sayana) 3. The inhabitant of the white Island (Sweta Dvipa), and 4. The Lord of Goloka (Golokanadha).1. Jyotistoma is the region of light from the earth to 21st plane. It is full of fire. It is Vaikuntanatha–the first sacrifice. "This fiery and divine sacrifice (Swaha yajna) consists of 34 utterances and the 21st plane is its establishment (Pratista). Thirty three fire-deities related to Vishnu are its limbs. The whole of these deities is Vaikuntanadha Vishnu". He will be awake for eight months and sleeps for four months. During these four months, there will be dominating influence of water and the fire becomes recessive. So the sacrifices will be destroyed. This is what we call `sleep of Vishnu'.2. Dwadasa yajna extends from 22nd plane to 33rd plane which is full of spiritual water (Apa) and essence (Soma). This is the Lord Vishnu lying on the Ocean. He is said to be having 34 utterances including Prajapati (Pridvi). He is the second Vishnu. Vishnu of the celestial ocean, always sleeps and often awakes. The Splendour of ignition (Agni) is the waking state. The ignition will be weak in the sea and hence the sacrifice will be slackened. The word `sleep' denotes this condition.3. Navaha yajna starts from 17th plane to 25th plane. The sacrificial Vishnu of this region will have white island as His habitation but is established at 21st level. He is the third Vishnu called Lord Satyanarayana. As Satyanarayana will always be in self-mortification, He is always awake. He never sleeps since Navaha yajna at 21st plane uniformly continues throughout the year.4. Pancha Dasaha yajna extends from 22nd plane to 36th plane. It is uttered by Sama Veda. Here Gau spirits are born and hence is called Gosava or Goloka. It is established at 29th plane. This region is pervaded by the ocean, a form of spiritual water, air and essence. The spiritual waters are the form of cows (Gua Spirits). They are of spreading nature. This is the supreme world (Paramesti). Lord Vishnu of this world is called Govinda. These four divisions belong to Pridvi that extends up to 33rd level. Thus they are the four dwellings places of the four types of Vishnu. The Lord of Goloka has two arms but the others are four-armed.Lord Satyanarayana owing to utter blackness is white in complexion. The other three are blue in color. As Satyanarayana is an embodiment of Tapas, (self- mortification). He has no wife. The others forms have wives. Govinda Vishnu's wife is Radha. She is the splendour of Vak (Vagjyoti) and carrier of wisdom (Janana Vahini). Lakshmi is the consort of Samudra Seyana Vishnu. She should be considered as Padma (Pridvi) born of the sea having the quality of terrestrial atoms (mrit paramanu lakshana). Vaikuntanatha has five wives – Pridvi, Tulasi, Ganga, Saraswati and Lakshmi. But he is considered to be having two wives – Sri Devi and Lakshmi (Bhudevi), perhaps the reason is the three wives Pridvi, Tulasi, and Saraswati are accepted by the word `Sree'. Here `Pridvi' means celestial waters called `maras' the source of the Earth. Tulasi means the waters of Solar rays called marichis, the source of medicinal herbs and plants. Ganga means waters called `ambhas'. "Thanks,JayashreeArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Please Chant ---- HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE and Be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Dear Sudharsanji, I checked the file section, but there is no file with the name of "Foundation" in it. Is it by any chance removed or renamed or put in some other folder? Thanks, Jayashree vedic astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Jayashree, > > There is a article by name "foundation" in this groups file- section. Please read the same for a very good explanation of the different Vishnu Deities and their role. The article is very good in the metaphysical sense and connect many concepts. > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > Dear respected members, > > I see that a lot of you have really profound knowledge of scriptures, > both in the conceptual as well as in the metaphysical planes. I read > the following at www.gsbkerala.com/satanar.htm#forms about the 4 > forms of Vishnu. I wish to understand it very much since the content > seems to exemplify the meanings of 'Parkadal', 'Vaikuntham', etc. in > the metaphysical sense. I'm not able to understand it all in the > metaphysical sense of it. > > Can someone please explain it to me, in whatever way you understand > this: > > "Types of Vishnu > Pauranikas consider Narayana or Vishnu as of four types based on the > celestial world — 1. The Lord of Paradise (Vaikunta Nadha) 2. The > Lord-lying on the ocean of celestial waters (Anantha sayana) 3. The > inhabitant of the white Island (Sweta Dvipa), and 4. The Lord of > Goloka (Golokanadha). > > 1. Jyotistoma is the region of light from the earth to 21st plane. It > is full of fire. It is Vaikuntanatha–the first sacrifice. "This fiery > and divine sacrifice (Swaha yajna) consists of 34 utterances and the > 21st plane is its establishment (Pratista). Thirty three fire- deities > related to Vishnu are its limbs. The whole of these deities is > Vaikuntanadha Vishnu". He will be awake for eight months and sleeps > for four months. During these four months, there will be dominating > influence of water and the fire becomes recessive. So the sacrifices > will be destroyed. This is what we call `sleep of Vishnu'. > > 2. Dwadasa yajna extends from 22nd plane to 33rd plane which is full > of spiritual water (Apa) and essence (Soma). This is the Lord Vishnu > lying on the Ocean. He is said to be having 34 utterances including > Prajapati (Pridvi). He is the second Vishnu. Vishnu of the celestial > ocean, always sleeps and often awakes. The Splendour of ignition > (Agni) is the waking state. The ignition will be weak in the sea and > hence the sacrifice will be slackened. The word `sleep' denotes this > condition. > > 3. Navaha yajna starts from 17th plane to 25th plane. The sacrificial > Vishnu of this region will have white island as His habitation but is > established at 21st level. He is the third Vishnu called Lord > Satyanarayana. As Satyanarayana will always be in self- mortification, > He is always awake. He never sleeps since Navaha yajna at 21st plane > uniformly continues throughout the year. > > 4. Pancha Dasaha yajna extends from 22nd plane to 36th plane. It is > uttered by Sama Veda. Here Gau spirits are born and hence is called > Gosava or Goloka. It is established at 29th plane. This region is > pervaded by the ocean, a form of spiritual water, air and essence. > The spiritual waters are the form of cows (Gua Spirits). They are of > spreading nature. This is the supreme world (Paramesti). Lord Vishnu > of this world is called Govinda. > > These four divisions belong to Pridvi that extends up to 33rd level. > Thus they are the four dwellings places of the four types of Vishnu. > The Lord of Goloka has two arms but the others are four-armed. > > Lord Satyanarayana owing to utter blackness is white in complexion. > The other three are blue in color. As Satyanarayana is an embodiment > of Tapas, (self- mortification). He has no wife. > > The others forms have wives. Govinda Vishnu's wife is Radha. She is > the splendour of Vak (Vagjyoti) and carrier of wisdom (Janana > Vahini). Lakshmi is the consort of Samudra Seyana Vishnu. She should > be considered as Padma (Pridvi) born of the sea having the quality of > terrestrial atoms (mrit paramanu lakshana). Vaikuntanatha has five > wives – Pridvi, Tulasi, Ganga, Saraswati and Lakshmi. But he is > considered to be having two wives – Sri Devi and Lakshmi (Bhudevi), > perhaps the reason is the three wives Pridvi, Tulasi, and Saraswati > are accepted by the word `Sree'. Here `Pridvi' means celestial waters > called `maras' the source of the Earth. Tulasi means the waters of > Solar rays called marichis, the source of medicinal herbs and plants. > Ganga means waters called `ambhas'. " > > Thanks, > > Jayashree > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Please Chant ---- > > HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA > KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE > HARE RAMA HARE RAMA > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE > > and Be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Dear Jayashree, Please drop the "ji" and call me Sudharsan.The document is found in the Sri Jagannath Group (Achyutha Gurukul). That list serves as a Gurukul with the sole purpose of teaching Jyotish.You will find "foundation.doc" in the file section.If you still cannot access it, I can email the same.Sorry for the confusion. Hare Krishna SudharsanJayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sudharsanji,I checked the file section, but there is no file with the name of "Foundation" in it. Is it by any chance removed or renamed or put in some other folder?Thanks,Jayashreevedic astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Jayashree,> > There is a article by name "foundation" in this groups file-section. Please read the same for a very good explanation of the different Vishnu Deities and their role. The article is very good in the metaphysical sense and connect many concepts.> > Hare Krishna> > Sudharsan> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> Dear respected members,> > I see that a lot of you have really profound knowledge of scriptures, > both in the conceptual as well as in the metaphysical planes. I read > the following at www.gsbkerala.com/satanar.htm#forms about the 4 > forms of Vishnu. I wish to understand it very much since the content > seems to exemplify the meanings of 'Parkadal', 'Vaikuntham', etc. in > the metaphysical sense. I'm not able to understand it all in the > metaphysical sense of it. > > Can someone please explain it to me, in whatever way you understand > this:> > "Types of Vishnu> Pauranikas consider Narayana or Vishnu as of four types based on the > celestial world — 1. The Lord of Paradise (Vaikunta Nadha) 2. The > Lord-lying on the ocean of celestial waters (Anantha sayana) 3. The > inhabitant of the white Island (Sweta Dvipa), and 4. The Lord of > Goloka (Golokanadha).> > 1. Jyotistoma is the region of light from the earth to 21st plane. It > is full of fire. It is Vaikuntanatha–the first sacrifice. "This fiery > and divine sacrifice (Swaha yajna) consists of 34 utterances and the > 21st plane is its establishment (Pratista). Thirty three fire-deities > related to Vishnu are its limbs. The whole of these deities is > Vaikuntanadha Vishnu". He will be awake for eight months and sleeps > for four months. During these four months, there will be dominating > influence of water and the fire becomes recessive. So the sacrifices > will be destroyed. This is what we call `sleep of Vishnu'.> > 2. Dwadasa yajna extends from 22nd plane to 33rd plane which is full > of spiritual water (Apa) and essence (Soma). This is the Lord Vishnu > lying on the Ocean. He is said to be having 34 utterances including > Prajapati (Pridvi). He is the second Vishnu. Vishnu of the celestial > ocean, always sleeps and often awakes. The Splendour of ignition > (Agni) is the waking state. The ignition will be weak in the sea and > hence the sacrifice will be slackened. The word `sleep' denotes this > condition.> > 3. Navaha yajna starts from 17th plane to 25th plane. The sacrificial > Vishnu of this region will have white island as His habitation but is > established at 21st level. He is the third Vishnu called Lord > Satyanarayana. As Satyanarayana will always be in self-mortification, > He is always awake. He never sleeps since Navaha yajna at 21st plane > uniformly continues throughout the year.> > 4. Pancha Dasaha yajna extends from 22nd plane to 36th plane. It is > uttered by Sama Veda. Here Gau spirits are born and hence is called > Gosava or Goloka. It is established at 29th plane. This region is > pervaded by the ocean, a form of spiritual water, air and essence. > The spiritual waters are the form of cows (Gua Spirits). They are of > spreading nature. This is the supreme world (Paramesti). Lord Vishnu > of this world is called Govinda. > > These four divisions belong to Pridvi that extends up to 33rd level. > Thus they are the four dwellings places of the four types of Vishnu. > The Lord of Goloka has two arms but the others are four-armed.> > Lord Satyanarayana owing to utter blackness is white in complexion. > The other three are blue in color. As Satyanarayana is an embodiment > of Tapas, (self- mortification). He has no wife. > > The others forms have wives. Govinda Vishnu's wife is Radha. She is > the splendour of Vak (Vagjyoti) and carrier of wisdom (Janana > Vahini). Lakshmi is the consort of Samudra Seyana Vishnu. She should > be considered as Padma (Pridvi) born of the sea having the quality of > terrestrial atoms (mrit paramanu lakshana). Vaikuntanatha has five > wives – Pridvi, Tulasi, Ganga, Saraswati and Lakshmi. But he is > considered to be having two wives – Sri Devi and Lakshmi (Bhudevi), > perhaps the reason is the three wives Pridvi, Tulasi, and Saraswati > are accepted by the word `Sree'. Here `Pridvi' means celestial waters > called `maras' the source of the Earth. Tulasi means the waters of > Solar rays called marichis, the source of medicinal herbs and plants. > Ganga means waters called `ambhas'. "> > Thanks,> > Jayashree> > > > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Please Chant ---- > > HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA > KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE > HARE RAMA HARE RAMA > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE > > and Be happyArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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