Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna lord conjoining Ketu? Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder was aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th elder eldest) was aborted. Working does not match with above? By reversing the gati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rd instead of 11th. Is that ok? If the actual does not match would you recommend corrections in time? Kind regards Ramesh PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we reach nodes in next count. I presume next count is Pisces. I dont see a node located there! Am I making some mistake? --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > wrote: > > Dear Kanupriya, > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer? > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > kanu priya [barish44] > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we reverse > > the counting.[ I missed > > writing that earlier]. > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in the > > 9th house with sun, in > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is Maraka > for > > the elder sibbling.There > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn and > > Saturn is exalted and > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in > > Libra.There should have been a > > birth of a girl after some delays and > difficulties. > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we > stop > > and no more elder > > siblings. The same way look for the younger > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > given primary importance but to be only considered > > when other things are not > > clear. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > >vedic astrology > > >vedic astrology > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > correction technique > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > >Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the D-3 > > >placements indicates as follows. I want to > > attempt my > > >daughters case here. Please read my comments. I > > shall > > >appreciate help in using these priciples. If we > > get > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help. > > > > > >Thanks and regards > > >Ramesh > > > > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for > now. > > May > > >be in the next mail. > > > > > > > > >--- kanu priya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Gurave Namah > > >Dear Ramesh, > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third > > house.There > > >are some basic principles followed to see the > co > > borns > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down some > > and > > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You > should > > be > > >able to read in detail in the archives about > the > > use > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main > theme > > here > > >is rectification I will further put down only > the > > >points which will be usefull for > > rectification.The > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for > > rectification > > >is to be able to know if the number of co borns > > and > > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches the > > native's > > >life or not. > > > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important for > the > > >assesment of the co borns.This would indicate > > good > > >relations with the co borns or problems with co > > borns > > >depending on the influence being malefic or > > benefic. > > > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo and > > lord is > > >Mercury. > > > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen from the > lord > > of > > >the third house.The second from the lord of the > > fifth > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.] > > > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by Mars > > and > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, Rasi > > drishti > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga > chakra > > book > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting planets > > are > > >Male, none are exalted though! > > > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected by > > Moon, > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is > also > > a > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate female > > too. > > > > > >How far does one go? > > > > > >The first elder co born is seen from the lord > of > > the > > >eleventh house and second from the lord of the > > ninth > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this > > method one > > >can know how many co borns the native has. > > > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its own > > house, > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi > > drishti of > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon is > > female in > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw? > > > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and > Mars, > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of > > aspected > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a female > > sign, > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female. > > Conclusion? > > > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house has > > no > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu and > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male in > > own > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and Mercury > > female. > > >Conclusion? > > > > > >Same question, when to stop. > > > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from the > > planets > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the house of > > the co > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then the > > issue > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female > planets > > then > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets > and > > will > > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn is > > usually > > >representative of the female and Mercury male > but > > >influence is important. > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated and > > nor > > >cojoined then look at the rasi. > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is also > > used to > > >determine the sex of the child.For example,The > > first > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male. > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen. > > > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of the > > >co-borns from native's chart? > > > > > >Hope this helped. > > >Best Wishes, > > > > > >Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya, > > > > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly explain > > how to > > > >determine the number of co-borns from D-3. I > > have > > >some > > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter. Her > > JHL > > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna in > > Virgo, > > > >whereas the chart made by family astrologer > > shows > > > >lagna in Leo. > > > > > > > >I am looking for some checks that can help me > > reach > > > >unbiased conclusion. > > > > > > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready > > reference. > > > > > > > >Best Regards > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web > site > > >design software > > > > > > > ><< Divya.jhd >> > > > > > > > > > > > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your business. > > Stay > > >ahead! > > > Sponsor > > > > > >Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > >Group info: > > > > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > >vedic astrology- > > > > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Dear Ramesh, I am not much in favour of analysing a young child's chart as astrological seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is any serious problems , should the chart be analysed. Some times one is not able to interprete a chart properly, so changing time of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a path fraught with danger if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's knowledge. Doing so is more likely to make one get into the habit of correcting birth time for explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and lead one astray from path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart at hand , I can not comment further. Take care, Chandrashekhar. Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani ]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for KanupriyaSatyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji,This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna lordconjoining Ketu?Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder wasaborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th eldereldest) was aborted.Working does not match with above? By reversing thegati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rdinstead of 11th. Is that ok? If the actual does not match would you recommendcorrections in time?Kind regardsRameshPS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we reachnodes in next count. I presume next count is Pisces.I dont see a node located there! Am I making somemistake? --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> wrote:> > Dear Kanupriya,> > Am I missing something here? Counting> > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the> > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer?> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > kanu priya [barish44 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]> > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM> > vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > Try this with your daughter's chart:> > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we reverse> > the counting.[ I missed> > writing that earlier].> > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in the> > 9th house with sun, in> > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is Maraka> for> > the elder sibbling.There> > may have been a misscarriage.> > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn and> > Saturn is exalted and> > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in> > Libra.There should have been a> > birth of a girl after some delays and> difficulties.> > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we> stop> > and no more elder> > siblings. The same way look for the younger> > sibblings.Aspects should not be> > given primary importance but to be only considered> > when other things are not> > clear.> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Kanupriya.> > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > >vedic astrology> > >To: vedic astrology> > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT)> > >> > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >Dear Kanupriya,> > >> > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the D-3> > >placements indicates as follows. I want to> > attempt my> > >daughters case here. Please read my comments. I> > shall> > >appreciate help in using these priciples. If we> > get> > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help.> > >> > >Thanks and regards> > >Ramesh> > >> > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for> now.> > May> > >be in the next mail.> > >> > >> > >--- kanu priya wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Om Gurave Namah> > >Dear Ramesh,> > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third> > house.There> > >are some basic principles followed to see the> co> > borns> > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down some> > and> > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You> should> > be> > >able to read in detail in the archives about> the> > use> > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main> theme> > here> > >is rectification I will further put down only> the> > >points which will be usefull for> > rectification.The> > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for> > rectification> > >is to be able to know if the number of co borns> > and> > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches the> > native's> > >life or not.> > >> > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important for> the> > >assesment of the co borns.This would indicate> > good> > >relations with the co borns or problems with co> > borns> > >depending on the influence being malefic or> > benefic.> > >> > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo and> > lord is> > >Mercury.> > >> > >2.The first younger co born is seen from the> lord> > of> > >the third house.The second from the lord of the> > fifth> > >house.[3rd from 3rd.]> > >> > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by Mars> > and> > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, Rasi> > drishti> > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga> chakra> > book> > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting planets> > are> > >Male, none are exalted though!> > >> > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected by> > Moon,> > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is> also> > a> > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate female> > too.> > >> > >How far does one go?> > >> > >The first elder co born is seen from the lord> of> > the> > >eleventh house and second from the lord of the> > ninth> > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this> > method one> > >can know how many co borns the native has.> > >> > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its own> > house,> > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi> > drishti of> > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon is> > female in> > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw?> > >> > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and> Mars,> > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of> > aspected> > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a female> > sign,> > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female.> > Conclusion?> > >> > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house has> > no> > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu and> > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male in> > own> > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and Mercury> > female.> > >Conclusion?> > >> > >Same question, when to stop.> > >> > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from the> > planets> > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the house of> > the co> > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then the> > issue> > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female> planets> > then> > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets> and> > will> > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn is> > usually> > >representative of the female and Mercury male> but> > >influence is important.> > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated and> > nor> > >cojoined then look at the rasi.> > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is also> > used to> > >determine the sex of the child.For example,The> > first> > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male.> > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen.> > >> > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of the> > >co-borns from native's chart?> > >> > >Hope this helped.> > >Best Wishes,> > >> > >Kanupriya.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >Dear Kanu Priya,> > > >> > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly explain> > how to> > > >determine the number of co-borns from D-3. I> > have> > >some> > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter. Her> > JHL> > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna in> > Virgo,> > > >whereas the chart made by family astrologer> > shows> > > >lagna in Leo.> > > >> > > >I am looking for some checks that can help me> > reach> > > >unbiased conclusion.> > > >> > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready> > reference.> > > >> > > >Best Regards> > > >Ramesh> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web> site> > >design software> > > >> > > ><< Divya.jhd >>> > >> > >> > >> > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your business.> > Stay> > >ahead!> > > Sponsor > > >> > >Archives:> > vedic astrology> > >> > >Group info:> > > >>>vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > >vedic astrology-> > >> > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > >> > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > >||> > >> > >Your use of is subject to the> > > > >Terms of Service.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site> > design software> > >> > > > > >>----------> > --> > Dress up your desktop! Get the best wallpapers.> > Just click here!> > Sponsor> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > Your use of is subject to the> > > Terms of Service.> > > > ---> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system> > (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release> > 7/30/03> > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site> design software> > Do you ? 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Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, I appreciate your advise. I do agree that looking at daughter's chart would tend to get one biased. I am attaching the chart and a worksheet that I had made only for refence. I became curious because the birth Kundali showed Leo as Langa whereas the one made from JHL with same TOB, showed Virgo. Kind regards Ramesh --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > I am not much in favour of analysing a young > child's chart as astrological > seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is > any serious problems , > should the chart be analysed. > Some times one is not able to interprete a chart > properly, so changing time > of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a > path fraught with danger > if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's > knowledge. Doing so is more > likely to make one get into the habit of correcting > birth time for > explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and > lead one astray from > path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart > at hand , I can not > comment further. > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > [rgangaramani] > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, > > This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna > lord > conjoining Ketu? > > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder > was > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th elder > eldest) was aborted. > > Working does not match with above? By reversing > the > gati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rd > instead of 11th. Is that ok? > > If the actual does not match would you recommend > corrections in time? > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we > reach > nodes in next count. I presume next count is > Pisces. > I dont see a node located there! Am I making some > mistake? > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > > wrote: > > > Dear Kanupriya, > > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer? > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > kanu priya > [barish44] > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we > reverse > > > the counting.[ I missed > > > writing that earlier]. > > > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in > the > > > 9th house with sun, in > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is > Maraka > > for > > > the elder sibbling.There > > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn > and > > > Saturn is exalted and > > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in > > > Libra.There should have been a > > > birth of a girl after some delays and > > difficulties. > > > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we > > stop > > > and no more elder > > > siblings. The same way look for the younger > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > > given primary importance but to be only > considered > > > when other things are not > > > clear. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > >vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > > correction technique > > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > >Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the > D-3 > > > >placements indicates as follows. I want to > > > attempt my > > > >daughters case here. Please read my > comments. I > > > shall > > > >appreciate help in using these priciples. > If we > > > get > > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help. > > > > > > > >Thanks and regards > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for > > now. > > > May > > > >be in the next mail. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- kanu priya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Gurave Namah > > > >Dear Ramesh, > > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third > > > house.There > > > >are some basic principles followed to see > the > > co > > > borns > > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down > some > > > and > > > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You > > should > > > be > > > >able to read in detail in the archives > about > > the > > > use > > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main > > theme > > > here > > > >is rectification I will further put down > only > > the > > > >points which will be usefull for > > > rectification.The > > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for > > > rectification > > > >is to be able to know if the number of co > borns > > > and > > > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches > the > > > native's > > > >life or not. > > > > > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important > for > > the > > > >assesment of the co borns.This would > indicate > > > good > > > >relations with the co borns or problems > with co > > > borns > > > >depending on the influence being malefic or > > > benefic. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo > and > > > lord is > > > >Mercury. > > > > > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen from > the > > lord > > > of > > > >the third house.The second from the lord of > the > > > fifth > > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.] > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by > Mars > > > and > > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, > Rasi > > > drishti > > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga > > chakra > > > book > > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting > planets > > > are > > > >Male, none are exalted though! > > > > > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected > by > > > Moon, > > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is > > also > > > a > > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate > female > > > too. > > > > > > > >How far does one go? > > > > > > > >The first elder co born is seen from the > lord > > of > > > the > > > >eleventh house and second from the lord of > the > > > ninth > > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this > > > method one > > > >can know how many co borns the native has. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its > own > > > house, > > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi > > > drishti of > > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon > is > > > female in > > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw? > > > > > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and > > Mars, > > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of > > > aspected > > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a > female > > > sign, > > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female. > > > Conclusion? > > > > > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house > has > > > no > > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu > and > > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male > in > > > own > > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and > Mercury > > > female. > > > >Conclusion? > > > > > > > >Same question, when to stop. > > > > > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from > the > > > planets > > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the > house of > > > the co > > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then > the > > > issue > > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female > > planets > > > then > > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch > planets > > and > > > will > > > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn > is > > > usually > > > >representative of the female and Mercury > male > > but > > > >influence is important. > > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated > and > > > nor > > > >cojoined then look at the rasi. > > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is > also > > > used to > > > >determine the sex of the child.For > example,The > > > first > > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male. > > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of > the > > > >co-borns from native's chart? > > > > > > > >Hope this helped. > > > >Best Wishes, > > > > > > > >Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya, > > > > > > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly > explain > > > how to > > > > >determine the number of co-borns from > D-3. I > > > have > > > >some > > > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter. > Her > > > JHL > > > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna > in > > > Virgo, > > > > >whereas the chart made by family > astrologer > > > shows > > > > >lagna in Leo. > > > > > > > > > >I am looking for some checks that can > help me > > > reach > > > > >unbiased conclusion. > > > > > > > > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready > > > reference. > > > > > > > > > >Best Regards > > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use > web > > site > > > >design software > > > > > > > > > ><< Divya.jhd >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your > business. > > > Stay > > > >ahead! > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > >Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > >Group info: > > > > > > > > > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > >vedic astrology- > > > > > > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Chandrashekar ji Is there any specific period to wait until ,before one can approach an astrologer to cast and write a newborn baby's Kundali.Could you share your knowledge regarding this as advised by Seers. Thanks in advance Pradeep Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 13. August 2003 20:29To: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for Kanupriya Dear Ramesh, I am not much in favour of analysing a young child's chart as astrological seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is any serious problems , should the chart be analysed. Some times one is not able to interprete a chart properly, so changing time of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a path fraught with danger if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's knowledge. Doing so is more likely to make one get into the habit of correcting birth time for explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and lead one astray from path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart at hand , I can not comment further. Take care, Chandrashekhar. Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani ]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for KanupriyaSatyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji,This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna lordconjoining Ketu?Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder wasaborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th eldereldest) was aborted.Working does not match with above? By reversing thegati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rdinstead of 11th. Is that ok? If the actual does not match would you recommendcorrections in time?Kind regardsRameshPS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we reachnodes in next count. I presume next count is Pisces.I dont see a node located there! Am I making somemistake? --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> wrote:> > Dear Kanupriya,> > Am I missing something here? Counting> > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the> > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer?> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > kanu priya [barish44 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]> > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM> > vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > Try this with your daughter's chart:> > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we reverse> > the counting.[ I missed> > writing that earlier].> > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in the> > 9th house with sun, in> > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is Maraka> for> > the elder sibbling.There> > may have been a misscarriage.> > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn and> > Saturn is exalted and> > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in> > Libra.There should have been a> > birth of a girl after some delays and> difficulties.> > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we> stop> > and no more elder> > siblings. The same way look for the younger> > sibblings.Aspects should not be> > given primary importance but to be only considered> > when other things are not> > clear.> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Kanupriya.> > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > >vedic astrology> > >To: vedic astrology> > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT)> > >> > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >Dear Kanupriya,> > >> > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the D-3> > >placements indicates as follows. I want to> > attempt my> > >daughters case here. Please read my comments. I> > shall> > >appreciate help in using these priciples. If we> > get> > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help.> > >> > >Thanks and regards> > >Ramesh> > >> > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for> now.> > May> > >be in the next mail.> > >> > >> > >--- kanu priya wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Om Gurave Namah> > >Dear Ramesh,> > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third> > house.There> > >are some basic principles followed to see the> co> > borns> > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down some> > and> > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You> should> > be> > >able to read in detail in the archives about> the> > use> > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main> theme> > here> > >is rectification I will further put down only> the> > >points which will be usefull for> > rectification.The> > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for> > rectification> > >is to be able to know if the number of co borns> > and> > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches the> > native's> > >life or not.> > >> > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important for> the> > >assesment of the co borns.This would indicate> > good> > >relations with the co borns or problems with co> > borns> > >depending on the influence being malefic or> > benefic.> > >> > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo and> > lord is> > >Mercury.> > >> > >2.The first younger co born is seen from the> lord> > of> > >the third house.The second from the lord of the> > fifth> > >house.[3rd from 3rd.]> > >> > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by Mars> > and> > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, Rasi> > drishti> > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga> chakra> > book> > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting planets> > are> > >Male, none are exalted though!> > >> > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected by> > Moon,> > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is> also> > a> > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate female> > too.> > >> > >How far does one go?> > >> > >The first elder co born is seen from the lord> of> > the> > >eleventh house and second from the lord of the> > ninth> > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this> > method one> > >can know how many co borns the native has.> > >> > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its own> > house,> > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi> > drishti of> > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon is> > female in> > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw?> > >> > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and> Mars,> > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of> > aspected> > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a female> > sign,> > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female.> > Conclusion?> > >> > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house has> > no> > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu and> > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male in> > own> > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and Mercury> > female.> > >Conclusion?> > >> > >Same question, when to stop.> > >> > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from the> > planets> > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the house of> > the co> > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then the> > issue> > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female> planets> > then> > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets> and> > will> > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn is> > usually> > >representative of the female and Mercury male> but> > >influence is important.> > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated and> > nor> > >cojoined then look at the rasi.> > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is also> > used to> > >determine the sex of the child.For example,The> > first> > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male.> > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen.> > >> > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of the> > >co-borns from native's chart?> > >> > >Hope this helped.> > >Best Wishes,> > >> > >Kanupriya.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >Dear Kanu Priya,> > > >> > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly explain> > how to> > > >determine the number of co-borns from D-3. I> > have> > >some> > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter. Her> > JHL> > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna in> > Virgo,> > > >whereas the chart made by family astrologer> > shows> > > >lagna in Leo.> > > >> > > >I am looking for some checks that can help me> > reach> > > >unbiased conclusion.> > > >> > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready> > reference.> > > >> > > >Best Regards> > > >Ramesh> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web> site> > >design software> > > >> > > ><< Divya.jhd >>> > >> > >> > >> > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your business.> > Stay> > >ahead!> > > Sponsor > > >> > >Archives:> > vedic astrology> > >> > >Group info:> > > >>>vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > >vedic astrology-> > >> > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > >> > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > >||> > >> > >Your use of is subject to the> > > > >Terms of Service.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site> > design software> > >> > > > > >>----------> > --> > Dress up your desktop! Get the best wallpapers.> > Just click here!> > Sponsor> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > Your use of is subject to the> > > Terms of Service.> > > > ---> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system> > (http://www.grisoft.com).> > Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release> > 7/30/03> > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site> design software> > Do you ? 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Pradeep, There is no injunction about drawing a Horoscope of a baby.Horoscope of the baby can be drawn as soon as convinient. It (the restriction) only applies to giving out predictions till the child is 12 years of age.Some also say that this should not be done till he is 24 years of age. This(the second option) probabaly has to do with the ancient practice of sending children to Gurukul at age 12 and that they used to return at 24 yr.s of age. To me the entire logic appears to be that having got the prediction at a tender age the parents are likely either to discuss it in the child's presence or even use it as a tool to goad him on to perform to their expectations, in the first case.For the second case probably they felt as the child was away from the parents, they would worry much if some bad thing was predicted. Either way this is likely to affect the young ones psychologically (also the parents by association)and the Sages perhaps prohibited such reading, unless it was a matter of physical well being of the child which was at stake. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com]Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:30 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for Kanupriya Dear Chandrashekar ji Is there any specific period to wait until ,before one can approach an astrologer to cast and write a newborn baby's Kundali.Could you share your knowledge regarding this as advised by Seers. Thanks in advance Pradeep Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 13. August 2003 20:29To: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for Kanupriya Dear Ramesh, I am not much in favour of analysing a young child's chart as astrological seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is any serious problems , should the chart be analysed. Some times one is not able to interprete a chart properly, so changing time of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a path fraught with danger if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's knowledge. Doing so is more likely to make one get into the habit of correcting birth time for explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and lead one astray from path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart at hand , I can not comment further. Take care, Chandrashekhar. Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani ]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for KanupriyaSatyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji,This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna lordconjoining Ketu?Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder wasaborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th eldereldest) was aborted.Working does not match with above? By reversing thegati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rdinstead of 11th. Is that ok? If the actual does not match would you recommendcorrections in time?Kind regardsRameshPS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we reachnodes in next count. I presume next count is Pisces.I dont see a node located there! Am I making somemistake? --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> wrote:> > Dear Kanupriya,> > Am I missing something here? Counting> > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the> > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer?> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > kanu priya [barish44 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]> > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM> > vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > Try this with your daughter's chart:> > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we reverse> > the counting.[ I missed> > writing that earlier].> > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in the> > 9th house with sun, in> > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is Maraka> for> > the elder sibbling.There> > may have been a misscarriage.> > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn and> > Saturn is exalted and> > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in> > Libra.There should have been a> > birth of a girl after some delays and> difficulties.> > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we> stop> > and no more elder> > siblings. The same way look for the younger> > sibblings.Aspects should not be> > given primary importance but to be only considered> > when other things are not> > clear.> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Kanupriya.> > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > >vedic astrology> > >To: vedic astrology> > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique> > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT)> > >> > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >Dear Kanupriya,> > >> > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the D-3> > >placements indicates as follows. I want to> > attempt my> > >daughters case here. Please read my comments. I> > shall> > >appreciate help in using these priciples. If we> > get> > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help.> > >> > >Thanks and regards> > >Ramesh> > >> > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for> now.> > May> > >be in the next mail.> > >> > >> > >--- kanu priya wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Om Gurave Namah> > >Dear Ramesh,> > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third> > house.There> > >are some basic principles followed to see the> co> > borns> > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down some> > and> > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You> should> > be> > >able to read in detail in the archives about> the> > use> > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main> theme> > here> > >is rectification I will further put down only> the> > >points which will be usefull for> > rectification.The> > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for> > rectification> > >is to be able to know if the number of co borns> > and> > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches the> > native's> > >life or not.> > >> > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important for> the> > >assesment of the co borns.This would indicate> > good> > >relations with the co borns or problems with co> > borns> > >depending on the influence being malefic or> > benefic.> > >> > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo and> > lord is> > >Mercury.> > >> > >2.The first younger co born is seen from the> lord> > of> > >the third house.The second from the lord of the> > fifth> > >house.[3rd from 3rd.]> > >> > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by Mars> > and> > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, Rasi> > drishti> > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga> chakra> > book> > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting planets> > are> > >Male, none are exalted though!> > >> > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected by> > Moon,> > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is> also> > a> > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate female> > too.> > >> > >How far does one go?> > >> > >The first elder co born is seen from the lord> of> > the> > >eleventh house and second from the lord of the> > ninth> > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this> > method one> > >can know how many co borns the native has.> > >> > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its own> > house,> > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi> > drishti of> > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon is> > female in> > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw?> > >> > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and> Mars,> > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of> > aspected> > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a female> > sign,> > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female.> > Conclusion?> > >> > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house has> > no> > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu and> > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male in> > own> > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and Mercury> > female.> > >Conclusion?> > >> > >Same question, when to stop.> > >> > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from the> > planets> > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the house of> > the co> > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then the> > issue> > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female> planets> > then> > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets> and> > will> > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn is> > usually> > >representative of the female and Mercury male> but> > >influence is important.> > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated and> > nor> > >cojoined then look at the rasi.> > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is also> > used to> > >determine the sex of the child.For example,The> > first> > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male.> > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen.> > >> > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of the> > >co-borns from native's chart?> > >> > >Hope this helped.> > >Best Wishes,> > >> > >Kanupriya.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >Dear Kanu Priya,> > > >> > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly explain> > how to> > > >determine the number of co-borns from D-3. I> > have> > >some> > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter. Her> > JHL> > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna in> > Virgo,> > > >whereas the chart made by family astrologer> > shows> > > >lagna in Leo.> > > >> > > >I am looking for some checks that can help me> > reach> > > >unbiased conclusion.> > > >> > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready> > reference.> > > >> > > >Best Regards> > > >Ramesh> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web> site> > >design software> > > >> > > ><< Divya.jhd >>> > >> > >> > >> > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your business.> > Stay> > >ahead!> > > Sponsor > > >> > >Archives:> > vedic astrology> > >> > >Group info:> > > >>>vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > >vedic astrology-> > >> > >....... 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Ramesh, You have only attached the JH chart and not the Kundali. Anyway, did the mother have problems during this child's delivery, specially relating to excessive bleeding or ceasarean section? If so, you can safely take the lagna as Virgo. The navamsha chart also indicates abortion/ early death of one of the siblings as Venus is 3rd from Karakamsha, in Virgo Asc. chart that you sent. The difference in Chart by JHL and Kundali could be on account of two factors. One is that some Longitudes and Lattitudes generated by JHL when using the rest of world option are not correct. I know as the details of my own city of Nagpur are wrong there. If you have manually used the correct Long an lat. then either the ayanamsha or Long Lat used by the Kundali maker could be different. There is as much as 6 degrees difference between Lahiri and some other Ayanamsas used. As the Lagna of the Girl is 2 degrees and odd Virgo, this change of Lagna to Leo in Kundali due to change of ayanamsha is the most likely factor. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani ]Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:07 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for KanupriyaSatyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Shri Chandrashekharji,I appreciate your advise. I do agree that looking atdaughter's chart would tend to get one biased. I am attaching the chart and a worksheet that I hadmade only for refence. I became curious because thebirth Kundali showed Leo as Langa whereas the one madefrom JHL with same TOB, showed Virgo.Kind regardsRamesh--- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Ramesh,> I am not much in favour of analysing a young> child's chart as astrological> seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is> any serious problems ,> should the chart be analysed.> Some times one is not able to interprete a chart> properly, so changing time> of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a> path fraught with danger> if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's> knowledge. Doing so is more> likely to make one get into the habit of correcting> birth time for> explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and> lead one astray from> path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart> at hand , I can not> comment further.> Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > Ramesh F. Gangaramani> [rgangaramani ]> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM> vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] birth time> correction technique-for> Kanupriya> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji,> > This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna> lord> conjoining Ketu?> > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder> was> aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th elder> eldest) was aborted.> > Working does not match with above? By reversing> the> gati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rd> instead of 11th. Is that ok?> > If the actual does not match would you recommend> corrections in time?> > Kind regards> Ramesh> > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we> reach> nodes in next count. I presume next count is> Pisces.> I dont see a node located there! Am I making some> mistake?> > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > wrote:> > > Dear Kanupriya,> > > Am I missing something here? Counting> > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the> > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer?> > > Regards,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > kanu priya> [barish44 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]> > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM> > > vedic astrology> > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > > correction technique> > >> > >> > >> >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > > Try this with your daughter's chart:> > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we> reverse> > > the counting.[ I missed> > > writing that earlier].> > >> > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in> the> > > 9th house with sun, in> > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is> Maraka> > for> > > the elder sibbling.There> > > may have been a misscarriage.> > >> > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn> and> > > Saturn is exalted and> > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in> > > Libra.There should have been a> > > birth of a girl after some delays and> > difficulties.> > >> > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we> > stop> > > and no more elder> > > siblings. The same way look for the younger> > > sibblings.Aspects should not be> > > given primary importance but to be only> considered> > > when other things are not> > > clear.> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > >> > > Kanupriya.> > >> > >> > >> > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > > >vedic astrology> > > >vedic astrology> > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time> > > correction technique> > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT)> > > >> > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > >> > > >Dear Kanupriya,> > > >> > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the> D-3> > > >placements indicates as follows. I want to> > > attempt my> > > >daughters case here. Please read my> comments. I> > > shall> > > >appreciate help in using these priciples.> If we> > > get> > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help.> > > >> > > >Thanks and regards> > > >Ramesh> > > >> > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for> > now.> > > May> > > >be in the next mail.> > > >> > > >> > > >--- kanu priya wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Om Gurave Namah> > > >Dear Ramesh,> > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third> > > house.There> > > >are some basic principles followed to see> the> > co> > > borns> > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down> some> > > and> > > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You> > should> > > be> > > >able to read in detail in the archives> about> > the> > > use> > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main> > theme> > > here> > > >is rectification I will further put down> only> > the> > > >points which will be usefull for> > > rectification.The> > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for> > > rectification> > > >is to be able to know if the number of co> borns> > > and> > > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches> the> > > native's> > > >life or not.> > > >> > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important> for> > the> > > >assesment of the co borns.This would> indicate> > > good> > > >relations with the co borns or problems> with co> > > borns> > > >depending on the influence being malefic or> > > benefic.> > > >> > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo> and> > > lord is> > > >Mercury.> > > >> > > >2.The first younger co born is seen from> the> > lord> > > of> > > >the third house.The second from the lord of> the> > > fifth> > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.]> > > >> > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by> Mars> > > and> > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter,> Rasi> > > drishti> > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga> > chakra> > > book> > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting> planets> > > are> > > >Male, none are exalted though!> > > >> > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected> by> > > Moon,> > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is> > also> > > a> > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate> female> > > too.> > > >> > > >How far does one go?> > > >> > > >The first elder co born is seen from the> lord> > of> > > the> > > >eleventh house and second from the lord of> the> > > ninth> > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this> > > method one> > > >can know how many co borns the native has.> > > >> > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its> own> > > house,> > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi> > > drishti of> > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon> is> > > female in> > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw?> > > >> > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and> > Mars,> > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of> > > aspected> > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a> female> > > sign,> > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female.> > > Conclusion?> > > >> > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house> has> > > no> > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu> and> > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male> in> > > own> > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and> Mercury> > > female.> > > >Conclusion?> > > >> > > >Same question, when to stop.> > > >> > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from> the> > > planets> > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the> house of> > > the co> > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then> the> > > issue> > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female> > planets> > > then> > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch> planets> > and> > > will> > > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn> is> > > usually> > > >representative of the female and Mercury> male> > but> > > >influence is important.> > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated> and> > > nor> > > >cojoined then look at the rasi.> > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is> also> > > used to> > > >determine the sex of the child.For> example,The> > > first> > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male.> > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen.> > > >> > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of> the> > > >co-borns from native's chart?> > > >> > > >Hope this helped.> > > >Best Wishes,> > > >> > > >Kanupriya.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >Dear Kanu Priya,> > > > >> > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly> explain> > > how to> > > > >determine the number of co-borns from> D-3. I> > > have> > > >some> > > > >doubt about lagna of my younger daughter.> Her> > > JHL> > > > >chart made from birth details shows lagna> in> > > Virgo,> > > > >whereas the chart made by family> astrologer> > > shows> > > > >lagna in Leo.> > > > >> > > > >I am looking for some checks that can> help me> > > reach> > > > >unbiased conclusion.> > > > >> > > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for ready> > > reference.> > > > >> > > > >Best Regards> > > > >Ramesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use> web> > site> > > >design software> > > > >> > > > ><< Divya.jhd >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >The Six Sigma edge. Give it to your> business.> > > Stay> > > >ahead!> > > > Sponsor > > > >> > > >Archives:> > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > >Group info:> > >> > >> >> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > >vedic astrology-> > > >> > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat. Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, Thank you for your kind response. It is true that mother had problems during delivery and she had to have a ceasarean section. I now see that 4th house (mother) has an aspect of Mars. I presume that shows surgery to mother! Mars would however have aspect on 4th house even with Leo lagna. There are other apsects on 4th which too would change. I shall appreciate if you can explain further. I am sorry I did not attach a copy of the birth Kundali. It has planets in the same Rasis, only lagna is Leo. Child was born in Kanpur. I made the JHL chart after mannually incorporing the Longitude and Latitude verified from 2 sources. The birth Kundali does not show the long, Lat, so I cannot verify the correctness. It was however made by a pandit in Baroda my parental town. I therefore cannot rule out the possibility of an error. Different ayanamsa could also be a factor. I have a little doubt about Venus placement mentioned by you. Rahu is AK, placed in Libra in Navamsa. Venus is in Acq, 5th from Libra! Am I making an error? I have read about Venus being selfish and hence eliminating co-borns especially one just prior, when placed in 3rd house. Does this apply to 3rd from karakamsa too? Kind regards Ramesh --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > You have only attached the JH chart and not the > Kundali. Anyway, did the > mother have problems during this child's delivery, > specially relating to > excessive bleeding or ceasarean section? If so, you > can safely take the > lagna as Virgo. The navamsha chart also indicates > abortion/ early death of > one of the siblings as Venus is 3rd from Karakamsha, > in Virgo Asc. chart > that you sent. > The difference in Chart by JHL and Kundali could be > on account of two > factors. One is that some Longitudes and Lattitudes > generated by JHL when > using the rest of world option are not correct. I > know as the details of my > own city of Nagpur are wrong there. > If you have manually used the correct Long an lat. > then either the ayanamsha > or Long Lat used by the Kundali maker could be > different. There is as much > as 6 degrees difference between Lahiri and some > other Ayanamsas used. As the > Lagna of the Girl is 2 degrees and odd Virgo, this > change of Lagna to Leo in > Kundali due to change of ayanamsha is the most > likely factor. > Hope this helps, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > [rgangaramani] > Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:07 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, > > I appreciate your advise. I do agree that looking > at > daughter's chart would tend to get one biased. > > I am attaching the chart and a worksheet that I > had > made only for refence. I became curious because > the > birth Kundali showed Leo as Langa whereas the one > made > from JHL with same TOB, showed Virgo. > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > I am not much in favour of analysing a young > > child's chart as astrological > > seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if > there is > > any serious problems , > > should the chart be analysed. > > Some times one is not able to interprete a chart > > properly, so changing time > > of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, > a > > path fraught with danger > > if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's > > knowledge. Doing so is more > > likely to make one get into the habit of > correcting > > birth time for > > explaining the happenings in the life of jataka > and > > lead one astray from > > path of correct analysis. As I do not have the > chart > > at hand , I can not > > comment further. > > Take care, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > [rgangaramani] > > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM > > vedic astrology > > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > > correction technique-for > > Kanupriya > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, > > > > This is my last child. Is this shown by her > Lagna > > lord > > conjoining Ketu? > > > > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second > elder > > was > > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th > elder > > eldest) was aborted. > > > > Working does not match with above? By > reversing > > the > > gati you are looking at elder siblings from > 3rd > > instead of 11th. Is that ok? > > > > If the actual does not match would you > recommend > > corrections in time? > > > > Kind regards > > Ramesh > > > > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we > > reach > > nodes in next count. I presume next count is > > Pisces. > > I dont see a node located there! Am I making > some > > mistake? > > > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Kanupriya, > > > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer? > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > kanu priya > > [barish44] > > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth > time > > > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we > > reverse > > > > the counting.[ I missed > > > > writing that earlier]. > > > > > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is > in > > the > > > > 9th house with sun, in > > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is > > Maraka > > > for > > > > the elder sibbling.There > > > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from > Capricorn > > and > > > > Saturn is exalted and > > > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in > > > > Libra.There should have been a > > > > birth of a girl after some delays and > > > difficulties. > > > > > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes > so we > > > stop > > > > and no more elder > > > > siblings. The same way look for the > younger > > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > > > given primary importance but to be only > > considered > > > > when other things are not > > > > clear. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth > time > > > > correction technique > > > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 > (PDT) > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case > the > > D-3 > > > > >placements indicates as follows. I want > to > > > > attempt my > > > > >daughters case here. Please read my > > comments. I > > > > shall > > > > >appreciate help in using these > priciples. > > If we > > > > get > > > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will > help. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks and regards > > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns > for > > > now. > > > > May > > > > >be in the next mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- kanu priya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Gurave Namah > > > > >Dear Ramesh, > > > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the > third > > > > house.There > > > > >are some basic principles followed to > see > > the > > > co > > > > borns > > > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put > down > > some > > > > and > > > > >hope to be corrected where I go > wrong.You > > > should > > > > be > > > > >able to read in detail in the archives > > about > > > the > > > > use > > > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the > main > > > theme > > > > here > > > > >is rectification I will further put > down > > only > > > the > > > > >points which will be usefull for > > > > rectification.The > > > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart > for > > > > rectification > > > > >is to be able to know if the number of > co > > borns > > > > and > > > > >thier sex indicated in the chart > matches > > the > > > > native's > > > > >life or not. > > > > > > > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is > important > > for > > > the > > > > >assesment of the co borns.This would > > indicate > > > > good > > > > >relations with the co borns or problems > > with co > > > > borns > > > > >depending on the influence being > malefic or > > > > benefic. > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is > virgo > > and > > > > lord is > > > > >Mercury. > > > > > > > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen > from > > the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > >the third house.The second from the > lord of > > the > > > > fifth > > > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.] > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned > by > > Mars > > > > and > > > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, > > Rasi > > > > drishti > > > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per > varga > > > chakra > > > > book > > > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting > > planets > > > > are > > > > >Male, none are exalted though! > > > > > > > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house > aspected > > by > > > > Moon, > > > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. > Capricorn is > > > also > > > > a > > > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate > > female > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > >How far does one go? > > > > > > > > > >The first elder co born is seen from > the > > lord > > > of > > > > the > > > > >eleventh house and second from the lord > of > > the > > > > ninth > > > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using > this > > > > method one > > > > >can know how many co borns the native > has. > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in > its > > own > > > > house, > > > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, > rashi > > > > drishti of > > > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, > moon > > is > > > > female in > > > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw? > > > > > > > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun > and > > > Mars, > > > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi > drishti of > > > > aspected > > > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a > > female > > > > sign, > > > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon > female. > > > > Conclusion? > > > > > > > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, > house > > has > > > > no > > > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, > Ketu > > and > > > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is > male > > in > > > > own > > > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and > > Mercury > > > > female. > > > > >Conclusion? > > > > > > > > > >Same question, when to stop. > > > > > > > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen > from > > the > > > > planets > > > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the > > house of > > > > the co > > > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets > then > > the > > > > issue > > > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined > female > > > planets > > > > then > > > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch > > planets > > > and > > > > will > > > > >give results as per thier > influence.Saturn > > is > > > > usually > > > > >representative of the female and > Mercury > > male > > > but > > > > >influence is important. > > > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or > debilitated > > and > > > > nor > > > > >cojoined then look at the rasi. > > > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign > is > > also > > > > used to > > > > >determine the sex of the child.For > > example,The > > > > first > > > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are > male. > > > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be > seen. > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna > Rasis of > > the > > > > >co-borns from native's chart? > > > > > > > > > >Hope this helped. > > > > >Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya, > > > > > > > > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly > > explain > > > > how to > > > > > >determine the number of co-borns from > > D-3. 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Dear Ramesh, Look at Ketu alone in 4th in exaltation. Remember "Kujavat Ketu"? He would shift to 5th house with Leo ascendant. You are right Venus is in 5th so probably the child elder to the immidiate elder child could have been the one who met that fate.3rd from karakamsha too venus acts in this fashion.Again Venus is in papakartari in navamsha. As a matter of fact you can make out problems with elder siblings from the natal chart too as Moon is in 11th, indicating variable fate for the elders, that some survive and some do not, since Jupiter a strong maraka aspects this moon. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani ]Friday, August 15, 2003 1:48 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for KanupriyaSatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat.Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,Thank you for your kind response. It is true thatmother had problems during delivery and she had tohave a ceasarean section. I now see that 4th house(mother) has an aspect of Mars. I presume that showssurgery to mother! Mars would however have aspect on4th house even with Leo lagna. There are other apsectson 4th which too would change. I shall appreciate ifyou can explain further. I am sorry I did not attach a copy of the birthKundali. It has planets in the same Rasis, only lagnais Leo. Child was born in Kanpur. I made the JHL chart aftermannually incorporing the Longitude and Latitudeverified from 2 sources. The birth Kundali does not show the long, Lat, so Icannot verify the correctness. It was however made bya pandit in Baroda my parental town. I thereforecannot rule out the possibility of an error. Differentayanamsa could also be a factor.I have a little doubt about Venus placement mentionedby you. Rahu is AK, placed in Libra in Navamsa. Venusis in Acq, 5th from Libra! Am I making an error? I have read about Venus being selfish and henceeliminating co-borns especially one just prior, whenplaced in 3rd house. Does this apply to 3rd fromkarakamsa too? Kind regardsRamesh--- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Ramesh,> You have only attached the JH chart and not the> Kundali. Anyway, did the> mother have problems during this child's delivery,> specially relating to> excessive bleeding or ceasarean section? If so, you> can safely take the> lagna as Virgo. The navamsha chart also indicates> abortion/ early death of> one of the siblings as Venus is 3rd from Karakamsha,> in Virgo Asc. chart> that you sent.> The difference in Chart by JHL and Kundali could be> on account of two> factors. One is that some Longitudes and Lattitudes> generated by JHL when> using the rest of world option are not correct. I> know as the details of my> own city of Nagpur are wrong there.> If you have manually used the correct Long an lat.> then either the ayanamsha> or Long Lat used by the Kundali maker could be> different. There is as much> as 6 degrees difference between Lahiri and some> other Ayanamsas used. As the> Lagna of the Girl is 2 degrees and odd Virgo, this> change of Lagna to Leo in> Kundali due to change of ayanamsha is the most> likely factor.> Hope this helps,> Chandrashekhar.> > Ramesh F. Gangaramani> [rgangaramani ]> Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:07 AM> vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] birth time> correction technique-for> Kanupriya> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,> > I appreciate your advise. I do agree that looking> at> daughter's chart would tend to get one biased.> > I am attaching the chart and a worksheet that I> had> made only for refence. I became curious because> the> birth Kundali showed Leo as Langa whereas the one> made> from JHL with same TOB, showed Virgo.> > Kind regards> Ramesh> > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh,> > I am not much in favour of analysing a young> > child's chart as astrological> > seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if> there is> > any serious problems ,> > should the chart be analysed.> > Some times one is not able to interprete a chart> > properly, so changing time> > of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me,> a> > path fraught with danger> > if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's> > knowledge. Doing so is more> > likely to make one get into the habit of> correcting> > birth time for> > explaining the happenings in the life of jataka> and> > lead one astray from> > path of correct analysis. As I do not have the> chart> > at hand , I can not> > comment further.> > Take care,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani> > [rgangaramani ]> > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM> > vedic astrology> > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time> > correction technique-for> > Kanupriya> >> >> >> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >> > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji,> >> > This is my last child. Is this shown by her> Lagna> > lord> > conjoining Ketu?> >> > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second> elder> > was> > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th> elder> > eldest) was aborted.> >> > Working does not match with above? By> reversing> > the> > gati you are looking at elder siblings from> 3rd> > instead of 11th. Is that ok?> >> > If the actual does not match would you> recommend> > corrections in time?> >> > Kind regards> > Ramesh> >> > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we> > reach> > nodes in next count. I presume next count is> > Pisces.> > I dont see a node located there! Am I making> some> > mistake?> >> > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > > wrote:> > > > Dear Kanupriya,> > > > Am I missing something here? Counting> > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the> > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer?> > > > Regards,> > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > kanu priya> > [barish44 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]> > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] birth> time> > > > correction technique> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Try this with your daughter's chart:> > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we> > reverse> > > > the counting.[ I missed> > > > writing that earlier].> > > >> > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is> in> > the> > > > 9th house with sun, in> > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is> > Maraka> > > for> > > > the elder sibbling.There> > > > may have been a misscarriage.> > > >> > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from> Capricorn> > and> > > > Saturn is exalted and> > > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in> > > > Libra.There should have been a> > > > birth of a girl after some delays and> > > difficulties.> > > >> > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes> so we> > > stop> > > > and no more elder> > > > siblings. The same way look for the> younger> > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be> > > > given primary importance but to be only> > considered> > > > when other things are not> > > > clear.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes,> > > >> > > > Kanupriya.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > > > >> vedic astrology> > > > >To: vedic astrology> > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth> time> > > > correction technique> > > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700> (PDT)> > > > >> > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > >> > > > >Dear Kanupriya,> > > > >> > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case> the> > D-3> > > > >placements indicates as follows. I want> to> > > > attempt my> > > > >daughters case here. Please read my> > comments. I> > > > shall> > > > >appreciate help in using these> priciples.> > If we> > > > get> > > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will> help.> > > > >> > > > >Thanks and regards> > > > >Ramesh> > > > >> > > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns> for> > > now.> > > > May> > > > >be in the next mail.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >--- kanu priya wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Om Gurave Namah> > > > >Dear Ramesh,> > > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the> third> > > > house.There> > > > >are some basic principles followed to> see> > the> > > co> > > > borns> > > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put> down> > some> > > > and> > > > >hope to be corrected where I go> wrong.You> > > should> > > > be> > > > >able to read in detail in the archives> > about> > > the> > > > use> > > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the> main> > > theme> > > > here> > > > >is rectification I will further put> down> > only> > > the> > > > >points which will be usefull for> > > > rectification.The> > > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart> for> > > > rectification> > > > >is to be able to know if the number of> co> > borns> > > > and> > > > >thier sex indicated in the chart> matches> > the> > > > native's> > > > >life or not.> > > > >> > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is> important> > for> > > the> > > > >assesment of the co borns.This would> > indicate> > > > good> > > > >relations with the co borns or problems> > with co> > > > borns> > > > >depending on the influence being> malefic or> > > > benefic.> > > > >> > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is> virgo> > and> > > > lord is> > > > >Mercury.> > > > >> > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen> from> > the> > > lord> > > > of> > > > >the third house.The second from the> lord of> > the> > > > fifth> > > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.]> > > > >> > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned> by> > Mars> > > > and> > > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter,> > Rasi> > > > drishti> > > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per> varga> > > chakra> > > > book> > > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting> > planets> > > > are> > > > >Male, none are exalted though!> > > > >> > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house> aspected> > by> > > > Moon,> > > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars.> Capricorn is> > > also> > > > a> > > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate> > female> > > > too.> > > > >> > > > >How far does one go?> > > > >> > > > >The first elder co born is seen from> the> > lord> > > of> > > > the> > > > >eleventh house and second from the lord> of> > the> > > > ninth> > > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using> this> > > > method one> > > > >can know how many co borns the native> has.> > > > >> > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in> its> > own> > > > house,> > > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn,> rashi> > > > drishti of> > > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign,> moon> > is> > > > female in> > > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw?> > > > >> > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun> and> > > Mars,> > > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi> drishti of> > > > aspected> > > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a> > female> > > > sign,> > > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon> female.> > > > Conclusion?> > > > >> > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house,> house> > has> > > > no> > > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu,> Ketu> > and> > > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is> male> > in> > > > own> > > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and> > Mercury> > > > female.> > > > >Conclusion?> > > > >> > > > >Same question, when to stop.> > > > >> > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen> from> > the> > > > planets> > > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the> > house of> > > > the co> > > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets> then> > the> > > > issue> > > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined> female> > > planets> > > > then> > > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch> > planets> > > and> > > > will> > > > >give results as per thier> influence.Saturn> > is> > > > usually> > > > >representative of the female and> Mercury> > male> > > but> > > > >influence is important.> > > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or> debilitated> > and> > > > nor> > > > >cojoined then look at the rasi.> > > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign> is> > also> > > > used to> > > > >determine the sex of the child.For> > example,The> > > > first> > > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are> male.> > > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be> seen.> > > > >> > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna> Rasis of> > the> > > > >co-borns from native's chart?> > > > >> > > > >Hope this helped.> > > > >Best Wishes,> > > > >> > > > >Kanupriya.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya,> > > > > >> > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly> > explain> > > > how to> > > > > >determine the number of co-borns from> > D-3. I> > > > have> > > > >some> > > > > >doubt about lagna of my younger> daughter.> > Her> > > > JHL> > > > > >chart made from birth details shows> lagna> > in> > > > Virgo,> > > > > >whereas the chart made by family> > astrologer> > > > shows> > > > > >lagna in Leo.> > > > > >> > > > > >I am looking for some checks that can> > help me> > > > reach> > > > > >unbiased conclusion.> > > > > >> > > > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for> ready> > > > reference.> > > > > >> > > > > >Best Regards> > > > > >Ramesh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free,> easy-to-use> > web> > > site> > > > >design software> > > > > >> > > > > ><< Divya.jhd >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >The Six Sigma edge. 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Chandrashekharji, Thank you for your guidence. Kind Regards Ramesh --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > Look at Ketu alone in 4th in exaltation. Remember > "Kujavat Ketu"? He would > shift to 5th house with Leo ascendant. You are right > Venus is in 5th so > probably the child elder to the immidiate elder > child could have been the > one who met that fate.3rd from karakamsha too venus > acts in this > fashion.Again Venus is in papakartari in navamsha. > As a matter of fact you can make out problems with > elder siblings from the > natal chart too as Moon is in 11th, indicating > variable fate for the elders, > that some survive and some do not, since Jupiter a > strong maraka aspects > this moon. > Hope this helps, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > [rgangaramani] > Friday, August 15, 2003 1:48 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat. > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, > > Thank you for your kind response. It is true that > mother had problems during delivery and she had to > have a ceasarean section. I now see that 4th house > (mother) has an aspect of Mars. I presume that > shows > surgery to mother! Mars would however have aspect > on > 4th house even with Leo lagna. There are other > apsects > on 4th which too would change. I shall appreciate > if > you can explain further. > > I am sorry I did not attach a copy of the birth > Kundali. It has planets in the same Rasis, only > lagna > is Leo. > > Child was born in Kanpur. I made the JHL chart > after > mannually incorporing the Longitude and Latitude > verified from 2 sources. > > The birth Kundali does not show the long, Lat, so > I > cannot verify the correctness. It was however made > by > a pandit in Baroda my parental town. I therefore > cannot rule out the possibility of an error. > Different > ayanamsa could also be a factor. > > I have a little doubt about Venus placement > mentioned > by you. Rahu is AK, placed in Libra in Navamsa. > Venus > is in Acq, 5th from Libra! Am I making an error? > > I have read about Venus being selfish and hence > eliminating co-borns especially one just prior, > when > placed in 3rd house. Does this apply to 3rd from > karakamsa too? > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > You have only attached the JH chart and not the > > Kundali. Anyway, did the > > mother have problems during this child's > delivery, > > specially relating to > > excessive bleeding or ceasarean section? If so, > you > > can safely take the > > lagna as Virgo. The navamsha chart also > indicates > > abortion/ early death of > > one of the siblings as Venus is 3rd from > Karakamsha, > > in Virgo Asc. chart > > that you sent. > > The difference in Chart by JHL and Kundali could > be > > on account of two > > factors. One is that some Longitudes and > Lattitudes > > generated by JHL when > > using the rest of world option are not correct. > I > > know as the details of my > > own city of Nagpur are wrong there. > > If you have manually used the correct Long an > lat. > > then either the ayanamsha > > or Long Lat used by the Kundali maker could be > > different. There is as much > > as 6 degrees difference between Lahiri and some > > other Ayanamsas used. As the > > Lagna of the Girl is 2 degrees and odd Virgo, > this > > change of Lagna to Leo in > > Kundali due to change of ayanamsha is the most > > likely factor. > > Hope this helps, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > [rgangaramani] > > Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:07 AM > > vedic astrology > > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > > correction technique-for > > Kanupriya > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, > > > > I appreciate your advise. I do agree that > looking > > at > > daughter's chart would tend to get one biased. > > > > I am attaching the chart and a worksheet that > I > > had > > made only for refence. I became curious > because > > the > > birth Kundali showed Leo as Langa whereas the > one > > made > > from JHL with same TOB, showed Virgo. > > > > Kind regards > > Ramesh > > > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > > wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > I am not much in favour of analysing a > young > > > child's chart as astrological > > > seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if > > there is > > > any serious problems , > > > should the chart be analysed. > > > Some times one is not able to interprete a > chart > > > properly, so changing time > > > of birth to suit prediction is , at least to > me, > > a > > > path fraught with danger > > > if the time recorded is fairly accurate to > one's > > > knowledge. Doing so is more > > > likely to make one get into the habit of > > correcting > > > birth time for > > > explaining the happenings in the life of > jataka > > and > > > lead one astray from > > > path of correct analysis. As I do not have > the > > chart > > > at hand , I can not > > > comment further. > > > Take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > > [rgangaramani] > > > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM > > > vedic astrology > > > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > > > correction technique-for > > > Kanupriya > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > This is my last child. Is this shown by > her > > Lagna > > > lord > > > conjoining Ketu? > > > > > > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second > > elder > > > was > > > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th > > elder > > > eldest) was aborted. > > > > > > Working does not match with above? By > > reversing > > > the > > > gati you are looking at elder siblings > from > > 3rd > > > instead of 11th. Is that ok? > > > > > > If the actual does not match would you > > recommend > > > corrections in time? > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states > that we > > > reach > > > nodes in next count. I presume next count > is > > > Pisces. > > > I dont see a node located there! Am I > making > > some > > > mistake? > > > > > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma > <boxdel > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be > Cancer? > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > kanu priya > > > [barish44] > > > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 > 12:41 AM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth > > time > > > > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so > we > > > reverse > > > > > the counting.[ I missed > > > > > writing that earlier]. > > > > > > > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and > mars is > > in > > > the > > > > > 9th house with sun, in > > > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which > is > > > Maraka > > > > for > > > > > the elder sibbling.There > > > > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > > > > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from > > Capricorn > > > and > > > > > Saturn is exalted and > > > > > retrograde joined Venus which is > strong in > > > > > Libra.There should have been a > > > > > birth of a girl after some delays and > > > > difficulties. > > > > > > > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the > nodes > > so we > > > > stop > > > > > and no more elder > > > > > siblings. The same way look for the > > younger > > > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > > > > given primary importance but to be > only > > > considered > > > > > when other things are not > > > > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] > birth > > time > > > > > correction technique > > > > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 > -0700 > > (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this > case > > the > > > D-3 > > > > > >placements indicates as follows. I > want > > to > > > > > attempt my > > > > > >daughters case here. Please read my > > > comments. I > > > > > shall > > > > > >appreciate help in using these > > priciples. > > > If we > > > > > get > > > > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus > will > > help. > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks and regards > > > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > >PS: I am not writing about her > co-borns > > for > > > > now. > > > > > May > > > > > >be in the next mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- kanu priya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Gurave Namah > > > > > >Dear Ramesh, > > > > > >The D-3 chart is the division of > the > > third > > > > > house.There > > > > > >are some basic principles followed > to > > see > > > the > > > > co > > > > > borns > > > > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to > put > > down > > > some > > > > > and > > > > > >hope to be corrected where I go > > wrong.You > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > >able to read in detail in the > archives > > > about > > > > the > > > > > use > > > > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since > the > > main > > > > theme > > > > > here > > > > > >is rectification I will further put > > down > > > only > > > > the > > > > > >points which will be usefull for > > > > > rectification.The > > > > > >main idea behind using the D-3 > chart > > for > > > > > rectification > > > > > >is to be able to know if the number > of > > co > > > borns > > > > > and > > > > > >thier sex indicated in the chart > > matches > > > the > > > > > native's > > > > > >life or not. > > > > > > > > > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is > > important > > > for > > > > the > > > > > >assesment of the co borns.This > would > > > indicate > > > > > good > > > > > >relations with the co borns or > problems > > > with co > > > > > borns > > > > > >depending on the influence being > > malefic or > > > > > benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is > > virgo > > > and > > > > > lord is > > > > > >Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen > > from > > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of > > > > > >the third house.The second from the > > lord of > > > the > > > > > fifth > > > > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.] > > > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is > owned > > by > > > Mars > > > > > and > > > > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and > Jupiter, > > > Rasi > > > > > drishti > > > > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per > > varga > > > > chakra > > > > > book > > > > > >is a female sign but Lord and > aspecting > > > planets > > > > > are > > > > > >Male, none are exalted though! > > > > > > > > > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house > > aspected > > > by > > > > > Moon, > > > > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. > > Capricorn is > > > > also > > > > > a > > > > > >female sign, lord and aspects > indicate > > > female > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > >How far does one go? > > > > > > > > > > > >The first elder co born is seen > from > > the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > >eleventh house and second from the > lord > > of > > > the > > > > > ninth > > > > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so > on.Using > > this > > > > > method one > > > > > >can know how many co borns the > native > > has. > > > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed > in > > its > > > own > > > > > house, > > > > > >house aspected by Jupiter and > Saturn, > > rashi > > > > > drishti of > > > > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male > sign, > > moon > > > is > > > > > female in > > > > > >own sign. What conclusion one can > draw? > > > > > > > > > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins > Sun > > and > > > > Mars, > > > > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi > > drishti of > > > > > aspected > > > > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus > is a > > > female > > > > > sign, > > > > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon > > female. > > > > > Conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own > house, > > house > > > has > > > > > no > > > > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of > Rahu, > > Ketu > > > and > > > > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord > is > > male > > > in > > > > > own > > > > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu > and > > > Mercury > > > > > female. > > > > > >Conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > >Same question, when to stop. > > > > > > > > > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be > seen > > from > > > the > > > > > planets > > > > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of > the > > > house of > > > > > the co > > > > > >born is exalted or cojoin male > planets > > then > > > the > > > > > issue > > > > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined > > female > > > > planets > > > > > then > > > > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are > eunuch > > > planets > > > > and > > > > > will > > > > > >give results as per thier > > influence.Saturn > > > is > > > > > usually > > > > > >representative of the female and > > Mercury > > > male > > > > but > > > > > >influence is important. > > > > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or > > debilitated > > > and > > > > > nor > > > > > >cojoined then look at the rasi. > > > > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the > sign > > is > > > also > > > > > used to > > > > > >determine the sex of the child.For > > > example,The > > > > > first > > > > > >and the second drekkana of Aries > are > > male. > > > > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also > be > > seen. > > > > > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna > > Rasis of > > > the > > > > > >co-borns from native's chart? > > > > > > > > > > > >Hope this helped. > > > > > >Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > >Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can > briefly > > > explain > > > > > how to > > > > > > >determine the number of co-borns > from > > > D-3. I > > > > > have > > > > > >some > > > > > > >doubt about lagna of my younger > > daughter. > > > Her > > > > > JHL > > > > > > >chart made from birth details > shows > > lagna > > > in > > > > > Virgo, > > > > > > >whereas the chart made by family > > > astrologer > > > > > shows > > > > > > >lagna in Leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am looking for some checks that > can > > > help me > > > > > reach > > > > > > >unbiased conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am enclosing her JHL chart for > > ready > > > > > reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Best Regards > > > > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, > > easy-to-use > > > web > > > > site > > > > > >design software > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><< Divya.jhd >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The Six Sigma edge. 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Chandrashekar ji Thanks for the explanation with reason. Now i understand that it is to avoid overconfidence due to a good chart and thereby spoiling a child and similarly avoid depression due to bad indications. Thanks a lot Pradeep --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel wrote: > MessageDear Pradeep, > There is no injunction about drawing a Horoscope of > a baby.Horoscope of the > baby can be drawn as soon as convinient. It (the > restriction) only applies > to giving out predictions till the child is 12 years > of age.Some also say > that this should not be done till he is 24 years of > age. This(the second > option) probabaly has to do with the ancient > practice of sending children to > Gurukul at age 12 and that they used to return at 24 > yr.s of age. To me the > entire logic appears to be that having got the > prediction at a tender age > the parents are likely either to discuss it in the > child's presence or even > use it as a tool to goad him on to perform to their > expectations, in the > first case.For the second case probably they felt as > the child was away from > the parents, they would worry much if some bad thing > was predicted. Either > way this is likely to affect the young ones > psychologically (also the > parents by association)and the Sages perhaps > prohibited such reading, unless > it was a matter of physical well being of the child > which was at stake. > Hope this helps, > Chandrashekhar. > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > [PradeepKumar.Vijaya] > Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:30 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji > > Is there any specific period to wait until ,before > one can approach an > astrologer to cast and write a newborn baby's > Kundali.Could you share your > knowledge regarding this as advised by Seers. > > Thanks in advance > Pradeep > > Chandrashekhar Sharma > [boxdel] > Mittwoch, 13. August 2003 20:29 > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > Dear Ramesh, > I am not much in favour of analysing a young > child's chart as > astrological seers prohibit one from doing that. > Only if there is any > serious problems , should the chart be analysed. > Some times one is not able to interprete a chart > properly, so changing > time of birth to suit prediction is , at least to > me, a path fraught with > danger if the time recorded is fairly accurate to > one's knowledge. Doing so > is more likely to make one get into the habit of > correcting birth time for > explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and > lead one astray from > path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart > at hand , I can not > comment further. > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > [rgangaramani] > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time > correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, > > This is my last child. Is this shown by her > Lagna lord > conjoining Ketu? > > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second > elder was > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th > elder > eldest) was aborted. > > Working does not match with above? By > reversing the > gati you are looking at elder siblings from > 3rd > instead of 11th. Is that ok? > > If the actual does not match would you > recommend > corrections in time? > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we > reach > nodes in next count. I presume next count is > Pisces. > I dont see a node located there! Am I making > some > mistake? > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel > > wrote: > > > Dear Kanupriya, > > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer? > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > kanu priya > [barish44] > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth > time > > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we > reverse > > > the counting.[ I missed > > > writing that earlier]. > > > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is > in the > > > 9th house with sun, in > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is > Maraka > > for > > > the elder sibbling.There > > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from > Capricorn and > > > Saturn is exalted and > > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in > > > Libra.There should have been a > > > birth of a girl after some delays and > > difficulties. > > > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes > so we > > stop > > > and no more elder > > > siblings. The same way look for the > younger > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > > given primary importance but to be only > considered > > > when other things are not > > > clear. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > > > vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth > time > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Chandrashekar ji Thanks for the explanation with reason. Now i understand that it is to avoid overconfidence due to a good chart and thereby spoiling a child and similarly avoid depression due to bad indications. Thanks a lot Pradeep vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote: > MessageDear Pradeep, > There is no injunction about drawing a Horoscope of a baby.Horoscope of the > baby can be drawn as soon as convinient. It (the restriction) only applies > to giving out predictions till the child is 12 years of age.Some also say > that this should not be done till he is 24 years of age. This(the second > option) probabaly has to do with the ancient practice of sending children to > Gurukul at age 12 and that they used to return at 24 yr.s of age. To me the > entire logic appears to be that having got the prediction at a tender age > the parents are likely either to discuss it in the child's presence or even > use it as a tool to goad him on to perform to their expectations, in the > first case.For the second case probably they felt as the child was away from > the parents, they would worry much if some bad thing was predicted. Either > way this is likely to affect the young ones psychologically (also the > parents by association)and the Sages perhaps prohibited such reading, unless > it was a matter of physical well being of the child which was at stake. > Hope this helps, > Chandrashekhar. > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...] > Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:30 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique- for > Kanupriya > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji > > Is there any specific period to wait until ,before one can approach an > astrologer to cast and write a newborn baby's Kundali.Could you share your > knowledge regarding this as advised by Seers. > > Thanks in advance > Pradeep > > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > Mittwoch, 13. August 2003 20:29 > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique- for > Kanupriya > > > Dear Ramesh, > I am not much in favour of analysing a young child's chart as > astrological seers prohibit one from doing that. Only if there is any > serious problems , should the chart be analysed. > Some times one is not able to interprete a chart properly, so changing > time of birth to suit prediction is , at least to me, a path fraught with > danger if the time recorded is fairly accurate to one's knowledge. Doing so > is more likely to make one get into the habit of correcting birth time for > explaining the happenings in the life of jataka and lead one astray from > path of correct analysis. As I do not have the chart at hand , I can not > comment further. > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani [rgangaramani] > Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:27 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] birth time correction technique-for > Kanupriya > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Kanupriya and Chandrashekharji, > > This is my last child. Is this shown by her Lagna lord > conjoining Ketu? > > Her first elder sibling is a Male, second elder was > aborted, 3rd elder is a female and the 4th elder > eldest) was aborted. > > Working does not match with above? By reversing the > gati you are looking at elder siblings from 3rd > instead of 11th. Is that ok? > > If the actual does not match would you recommend > corrections in time? > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > PS: Point number 4 of your mail states that we reach > nodes in next count. I presume next count is Pisces. > I dont see a node located there! Am I making some > mistake? > > --- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> > > wrote: > > > Dear Kanupriya, > > > Am I missing something here? Counting > > > Apasavvya(reverse) , would not the > > > 11th house for Virgo ascendant be Cancer? > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > kanu priya [barish44@h...] > > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:41 AM > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > > correction technique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Try this with your daughter's chart: > > > 1.D -3 lagna is Virgo, even sign ,so we reverse > > > the counting.[ I missed > > > writing that earlier]. > > > > > > 2.11th in reverse is scorpio and mars is in the > > > 9th house with sun, in > > > Taurus.Sun lords the 12th house which is Maraka > > for > > > the elder sibbling.There > > > may have been a misscarriage. > > > > > > 3.The next sibling is seen from Capricorn and > > > Saturn is exalted and > > > retrograde joined Venus which is strong in > > > Libra.There should have been a > > > birth of a girl after some delays and > > difficulties. > > > > > > 4.In the next count we reach the nodes so we > > stop > > > and no more elder > > > siblings. The same way look for the younger > > > sibblings.Aspects should not be > > > given primary importance but to be only considered > > > when other things are not > > > clear. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > >vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >Re: [vedic astrology] birth time > > > correction technique > > > >Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > >Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > >Dear Kanupriya, > > > > > > > >Thank you for elaboration. In this case the D-3 > > > >placements indicates as follows. I want to > > > attempt my > > > >daughters case here. Please read my comments. I > > > shall > > > >appreciate help in using these priciples. If we > > > get > > > >stuck here, I am confident Gurus will help. > > > > > > > >Thanks and regards > > > >Ramesh > > > > > > > >PS: I am not writing about her co-borns for > > now. > > > May > > > >be in the next mail. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- kanu priya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Gurave Namah > > > >Dear Ramesh, > > > >The D-3 chart is the division of the third > > > house.There > > > >are some basic principles followed to see the > > co > > > borns > > > >from the D-3 chart.I will try to put down some > > > and > > > >hope to be corrected where I go wrong.You > > should > > > be > > > >able to read in detail in the archives about > > the > > > use > > > >of the Drekkna for the same.Since the main > > theme > > > here > > > >is rectification I will further put down only > > the > > > >points which will be usefull for > > > rectification.The > > > >main idea behind using the D-3 chart for > > > rectification > > > >is to be able to know if the number of co borns > > > and > > > >thier sex indicated in the chart matches the > > > native's > > > >life or not. > > > > > > > >1.The lord of Drekkna lagna is important for > > the > > > >assesment of the co borns.This would indicate > > > good > > > >relations with the co borns or problems with co > > > borns > > > >depending on the influence being malefic or > > > benefic. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) In this chart D-3 lagna is virgo and > > > lord is > > > >Mercury. > > > > > > > >2.The first younger co born is seen from the > > lord > > > of > > > >the third house.The second from the lord of the > > > fifth > > > >house.[3rd from 3rd.] > > > > > > > >(Ramesh) Her 3rd house in D-3 is owned by Mars > > > and > > > >house aspected by Sun Mars and Jupiter, Rasi > > > drishti > > > >of Jupiter and Rahu. Scorpio as per varga > > chakra > > > book > > > >is a female sign but Lord and aspecting planets > > > are > > > >Male, none are exalted though! > > > > > > > >5th lord in D-3 is Saturn, house aspected by > > > Moon, > > > >rashi drishti of Sun and Mars. Capricorn is > > also > > > a > > > >female sign, lord and aspects indicate female > > > too. > > > > > > > >How far does one go? > > > > > > > >The first elder co born is seen from the lord > > of > > > the > > > >eleventh house and second from the lord of the > > > ninth > > > >house.[11th from 11th] and so on.Using this > > > method one > > > >can know how many co borns the native has. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)11th Lord is Moon, placed in its own > > > house, > > > >house aspected by Jupiter and Saturn, rashi > > > drishti of > > > >Sun and Mars. Cancer is a male sign, moon is > > > female in > > > >own sign. What conclusion one can draw? > > > > > > > >9th Lord is Venus, house con-joins Sun and > > Mars, > > > >house has no grah drishti, rashi drishti of > > > aspected > > > >by Moon, Venus and Saturn. Taurus is a female > > > sign, > > > >Sun and Mars are Male whereas Moon female. > > > Conclusion? > > > > > > > >7th Lord is Jupiter in his own house, house has > > > no > > > >graha drishti, rashi drishti of Rahu, Ketu and > > > >Mercury. Pises is a male sign, lord is male in > > > own > > > >house, Rahu a male sign and Ketu and Mercury > > > female. > > > >Conclusion? > > > > > > > >Same question, when to stop. > > > > > > > >3.The sex of the co borns can be seen from the > > > planets > > > >and rasis involved .If the lord of the house of > > > the co > > > >born is exalted or cojoin male planets then the > > > issue > > > >is male.If debilitated or cojoined female > > planets > > > then > > > >female.Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets > > and > > > will > > > >give results as per thier influence.Saturn is > > > usually > > > >representative of the female and Mercury male > > but > > > >influence is important. > > > >4.If the lord is not exalted or debilitated and > > > nor > > > >cojoined then look at the rasi. > > > >5.At times the Drekkna within the sign is also > > > used to > > > >determine the sex of the child.For example,The > > > first > > > >and the second drekkana of Aries are male. > > > >6.Aspects on the lords should also be seen. > > > > > > > >(Ramesh)Can one find out the Lagna Rasis of the > > > >co-borns from native's chart? > > > > > > > >Hope this helped. > > > >Best Wishes, > > > > > > > >Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Kanu Priya, > > > > > > > > > >I shall appreciate if you can briefly explain > > > how to > > > > >determine the number of co-borns from D-3. 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