Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

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dear Rao,

 

namaste. yes, this makes eminent sense!! I have felt this way for

the past almost seven years now. although, there have been times I

have made considerable positive progress. I am still trying to

figure out how shani as my atmakaraka figures into this equation.

 

rani.

 

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

<raonemani> wrote:

> Dear Rani,

>

> If I remember correctly once Sanjay Ji said about the Kantaka

Shani

> effect would be like a "Lion limping" during that period.

>

> I always tries to understand the Sanskrit meaning of these

definition

> first, so I would think , Kantaka means "Thorn" so what happens to

a

> native when he/she gets Thorn in the feet, the result could be

> walking slowly or limping, hence the "Kantaka Shani" meaning

matches

> with Sanjay ji' saying of "Lion Limping".

>

> It is only my little knowledge. Guru's may please correct me if I

am

> wrong.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told me

> > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell me

> about

> > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or

> > less. though I am trying to work thru it.

> >

> > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

addition

> > to) sadesati?

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear List,

> > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or

10th.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

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> > > onlyhari

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> > >

> > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Rani,

> > >

> > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is

your

> > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta

> > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you.

> > 3/6/11

> > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's

book.

> > >

> > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you, then

> > probably

> > > there are other factors at work here.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > > vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > > >

> > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> > remember

> > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

as

> > well.

> > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I

would

> > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi

is

> > > pisces

> > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm

> > ready

> > > for

> > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm

right

> > > inside

> > > > yet another one :-( .

> > > >

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Dear Imran, thank you for this detailed post. it was very helpful.

but I still seem to have questions about what houses for what.

anyway, it seems that JKda is right, almost half the houses could be

affected at any given time either by sadesati or by kantaka shani.

 

many thanks.

 

rani.

 

vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran

<astroimran> wrote:

> Dear Hari,

> Namaste,

>

> Yes, there are lot of exceptions for Sade Sati. Just read the

follwoing mail on the the said topic.

> Message No. 23793

>

>

> Sade Sati is not always of 7 years and 6 months long, its all

depends on motion of Saturn (slow, fast, direct and retrograde etc.)

over 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal Moon. Though the aggregate average

makes seven and half years. Thus it is called the Sade-Sati i.e.

period of seven and half years.

> Now the question about whether the pivotal sign should either be

Natal Moon or Lagna? But there are various opinion on it. e.g. In SA

(system approach) transit is reckoned from natal lagna. Whereas some

experts not only take Natal Moon but also consider Natal Lagna for

delineating transit effects. Thus transit of Saturn behind, over and

ahead of Lagna is assmused identical to Sade Sati.

> In my humble opinion, transit should be reckoned from Moon, Lagna

and Sun as well *(if we want to judge 3-dimentional flow of cosmic

energy)*. As without this trinity (Lagna=Body, Moon=Mind and

Sun=Soul), no picture can be completed.

> Where the Transit from Natal Moon, yields general and apprent

effects, i.e. What you feel? These results are very clear, and

easily perceptible.

> Transit from Lagna shows results on physical plane, i.e. limited

to your physical self and generally not perceptible by others

instead they exist. While the Transit from Sun reveals inner and

spiritual conditions effected by planets in gochar. The results from

Sun are quite deeper and can not cast an impact on external pattern

of life.

> The profundity of transitary effects are directly propotional to

Ashtaka Varga (A.V). Thus without A.V. gochar can not be fully judge

at all. Another important fearture is vedh and latta.

> Now, I come to the point i.e. Sade Sati. There are some rules

(and some are my observations) regarding Sadi Sati and its effects.

> 1) If the Natal Moon is subjected to Kemadruma Yoga (formed when

Moon is not flanked by any planet, excluding Sun and nodes) without

cancellation then Sade-Sati yields adverse result. (why? due to

reserve and lonely nature "kemadurma yoga holders" usually have)

> 2) The effect of Sade Sati is inversly proportional to strength of

Saturn in natal chart. That is, if Saturn is strong in natal chart

then Sade Sati can't hit native, otherwise vice-versa holds good.

> 3) If Moon is into sign of Venus, i.e. either in Taurus or Libra

(because for Venusian signs Saturn becomes Yoga-Karaka) then Sade

Sati would also not very harmful. (B.V.Raman eloborated it in his

autobiography)

> 4) If Moon is enjoyed by Shubha Adi Yoga(flanked by natural

benefics) or Shubha Dhurdhura Yoga (benefics in 6th, 7th and 8th)

then also Sade Sati does not lead to meleficent, even may evolve

you.

> 5) If there is powerful planet in 10th from Moon in natal chart,

then the 1st phase of Sade Sati (i.e. saturn's transit in 12th) cant

be bad, similarly if there is strong benefic in 7th from Moon the

2nd phase of Sade Sati (i.e. in 1st) can not be bad, and if there

there is strong supporting planet in 4th from Moon then the last

phase of Sade Sati wont feel adverse.

> 6) The Sani-Paya (i.e. Murthi Rule; Silver, Gold, Copper and Iron

w.r.t beneficent effects respectively) are also seemed a parameter

to alter the intensity of Sade Sati. School of K.N.Rao believe this

works very well.

> 7) The rusult of Sade Sati is altered according to the strength of

Natal Moon, if Moon is afflicted due to association of Rahu or Mars,

combustion, or get lesser bindus in A.V. Because a weak Mind can't

survive and/or fight in hostile environment.

> 8) Finally the Dasanath may change the intensity of Sade Sati,

e.g. a powerful dasanath(specially strong yoga-karaka) curtails the

bad effect.

> 9) Sade Sati does not hit elder peoples (as saturn is naturally

eldest graha). In old age they generally brings forth diseases.

> 10) If first sade sati was bad then second will not so wrost. But

if first sade sati was favourable then second one may be

troublesome. In other words effects are cyclical or oscillatory.

> Regards

> IMRAN

>

>

> onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:

> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> Dear Ognjen and Siva,

>

> Transit of Sa in the 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is

generally

> called as Sadesati or the 7.5 years of Saturn transit over natal

> moon. This is thought to be a period of extreme stress and mental

> tensions.

>

> I have seen this in a couple of cases but again there are

> exceptions. For example, I didnt face any difficulties during the

> 1st Sadesati. Similarly, a friend who also has natal moon in Ge

> (Arudra nakshatra) is facing 1st Sadesati now and apart from some

> delay in getting his masters degree or job, didnt face any

> difficulties so far. Even, I wonder if he could get married during

> this period!

>

> My opinion is that the 1st Sadesati is not very stressful while

the

> second sadesati would certainly be stressful. Thus the factor to

be

> considered should be the placement of natal moon and saturn with

> respect to each other and how many Sadesatis can be expected

within

> the lifetime of an individual. Since the 2nd sadesati usually

makes

> the individual worldywise, the 3rd Sadesati is also not very

> stressful because the native has by then developed the

> experience/attitude to weather any storms. Of course, this depends

> to a great extent on the dasha that the individual is running.

Again

> my opinion is that Saturn Mahadasha + 2nd Sadesati is a double

> whammy!

>

> respected Gurus may have other opinions, though. Siva, as per

advice

> of Gurus on this list, appropriate mantras are indicated. You may

> search the list to find out the remedies suggested. Sincere

worship

> in temples and visit to Saturn deity at Thirunallar may help you

> greatly. Its all a matter of faith.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> vedic astrology, "Ognjen"

> <ognjen.pavicevic@z...> wrote:

> > Dear Siva,

> >

> > there must be some other factors also because I am in the same

> postion like you ( Saturn transit over the natal Moon) and some

> changes occur but I think that they are positive.

> >

> > Good luck.

> >

> > Ognjen

> > -

> > vijayuma

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:51 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees)

> over natal Moon

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > All sorts of problems have errupted all of a sudden in the

last

> three

> > to four days in my life. Though i have had a very bad

financial

> phase

> > for the last couple of years, my career was always moving in

> positive

> > direction, but the first time in my 10 year career i have been

> > challenged that my work for the past 6 months have been

> technically

> > sloppy. Basically the status has work has dropped quite

> dramatically

> > in last 3 days with bombardment from all sides most of it not

a

> fault

> > of mine (miscommunication, blame of others on me etc.).

> >

> > Are all these due to the fact that the transit saturn is

exactly

> over

> > my natal moon now.

> >

> > My DOB

> > 20/october/1970 (Tuesday)

> > Time Of Birth

> > 8:45 am (No DST)

> > Place of birth

> > Near pudukottai, TamilNadu, India, +5:30 East GMT

> > Latitude and Longitude

> > 10.23 N

> > 78.52 E

> >

> > Any inputs on near future w.r.t this is appreciated

> >

> > Thanks

> > Siva

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|Namah Shivaaya|Dear Rani,

Transiting planets will not express their functional tendencies, only their

natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the transiting planets

trigerring in our natal charts?Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

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Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

dear Visti and Gurus, I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple

of emails. I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before! on the note of

Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK any relief? or is it even more

intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is cancer and moon is in pisces. thanks!rani.

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant

obstacle in ones work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon

and Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas during its

transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and nothing seems to be

going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.> The philosophies/basis of

Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are different, but we consider them jointly.>

Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional charts as well.

This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri

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raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology > Thursday,

July 03, 2003 10:36 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in degrees) over natal Moon> > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's

what you told me > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell

me about > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more or >

less. though I am trying to work thru it. > > also, are kanataka shani's

effects separate from (and in addition > to) sadesati? > > rani.> > ---

In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear List,> > Has anyone forgot Kanataka

Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or 10th.> > Best wishes> > Visti> > --->

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > >

onlyhari > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit

Saturn Exactly (in > degrees) over natal Moon> > > > > > ---Om

Brihaspataye Namah---> > Dear Rani,> > > > As much as I sympathize

with you, I must say that if Pi is your > > chandra lagna, then the gochar

3rd house transit of Sa in Ta > (being > > also the 11th from Cn

lagna)should have been good for you. > 3/6/11 > > Gochar transit of Sa is

considered good as per Narasimha's book.> > > > If this is not the case as

hinted emphatically by you, then > probably > > there are other factors at

work here. > > > > regards> > Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > >

<raindancer_1998> wrote:> > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > > > >

> thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to > remember > >

> Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna as > well. > >

> but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, I would > > >

breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my rashi is > > pisces >

> > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm > ready >

> for > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm right

> > inside > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > > rani.> > >

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I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further (I

know I get stupid during these times but I need to get it all deeper

into my head ;-)). so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had something to

do with my moon's or lagna's position could the kanataka sani effect

it and trigger anything?

 

rani.

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Namah Shivaaya|

> Dear Rani,

> Transiting planets will not express their functional tendencies,

only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the

transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

>

> dear Visti and Gurus,

>

> I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of

emails.

> I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before!

>

> on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK

any

> relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is

> cancer and moon is in pisces.

>

> thanks!

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Rani,

> > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones

> work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and

> Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas

during

> its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and

> nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.

> > The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are

> different, but we consider them jointly.

> > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in Divisional

> charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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> > raindancer_1998

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> >

> > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you told

me

> > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did tell

me

> about

> > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around more

or

> > less. though I am trying to work thru it.

> >

> > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

> addition

> > to) sadesati?

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear List,

> > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th

or

> 10th.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > onlyhari

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> > >

> > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Rani,

> > >

> > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi

is

> your

> > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa

in Ta

> > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for

you.

> > 3/6/11

> > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per

Narasimha's

> book.

> > >

> > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by you,

then

> > probably

> > > there are other factors at work here.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > > vedic-

astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > > >

> > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to

> > remember

> > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from

lagna

> as

> > well.

> > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting. Hari,

I

> would

> > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my

rashi

> is

> > > pisces

> > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so

I'm

> > ready

> > > for

> > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and

I'm

> right

> > > inside

> > > > yet another one :-( .

> > > >

> > > > rani.

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|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Rani,

>From now on i expect you to recite the mantra; Namah Shivaaya, atleast 108 times

a day using Rudraksha Mala, and Gyana Mudra. If you wanto learn Jyotish then you

must put your body, mind and soul into it. Believe me, you will feel a

significant difference very soon.

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Now the Moon is placed somewhere in your natal chart. When Shani hovers

(transits) over it or cast his laserbeam eyes on the Moons 10th house during

transit, then the Natal Moon, which is our mana and connection with the public,

suffers. I have not talked about Natal Yoga's yet. If your natal moon is

involved in some horrible yoga's, then Shani's transit gets even worse.

The logic is simple. The worse the inherrent state of the mind, the worse will

be the effects of people influencing it. And Shani is definitely among the more

malefic type of people.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

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Friday, July 11, 2003 6:36 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further (I know I get

stupid during these times but I need to get it all deeper into my head ;-)).

so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had something to do with my moon's or lagna's

position could the kanataka sani effect it and trigger anything? rani.--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > |Namah

Shivaaya|> Dear Rani,> Transiting planets will not express their functional

tendencies, only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are the

transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?> Best wishes> Visti> --->

Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

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raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology > Tuesday, July

08, 2003 5:42 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon> > > dear Visti and Gurus, > > I'm sorry if I sort

of repeated myself before in a couple of emails. > I forgot that I replied to

Hari's emails before! > > on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having

Shani as AK any > relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna

is > cancer and moon is in pisces. > > thanks!> rani. > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > >

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rani,> > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a

constant obstacle in ones > work. This work is seen from the 10th house from

Lagna, Moon and > Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these

bhavas during > its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt,

and > nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.> >

The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are > different, but

we consider them jointly.> > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned

in Divisional > charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.>

> Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

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vedic astrology > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in > degrees)

over natal Moon> > > > > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's

what you told me > > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did

tell me > about > > depression and yes, that did happen and is still

around more or > > less. though I am trying to work thru it. > > > >

also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in > addition > >

to) sadesati? > > > > rani.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear List,> > > Has

anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th or > 10th.> > > Best

wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

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> onlyhari > > > vedic astrology > > >

Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re:

Transit Saturn Exactly (in > > degrees) over natal Moon> > > > > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> > > Dear Rani,> > > > >

> As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi is > your > >

> chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa in Ta > > (being

> > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for you. > >

3/6/11 > > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per Narasimha's >

book.> > > > > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by

you, then > > probably > > > there are other factors at work here. >

> > > > > regards> > > Hari> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" > > >

<raindancer_1998> wrote:> > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > > >

> > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem to > >

remember > > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from lagna

> as > > well. > > > > but I can't remember the number of the

posting. Hari, I > would > > > > breathe big relief if it were only

from the moon. my rashi > is > > > pisces > > > > and these past

three-four years were DIFFICULT! and so I'm > > ready > > > for > >

> > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and I'm > right > >

> inside > > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > > > >

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thanks Visti. it's much clearer to me now. Sani's transit is as bad

as you chart makes it.

 

I already do the chant you mentioned. but I do not have the

rudraksha mala. don't know where I would get it here. also, what is

the gyana mudra?

 

again, many thanks,

rani.

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|

> Dear Rani,

> From now on i expect you to recite the mantra; Namah Shivaaya,

atleast 108 times a day using Rudraksha Mala, and Gyana Mudra. If

you wanto learn Jyotish then you must put your body, mind and soul

into it. Believe me, you will feel a significant difference very

soon.

> Inhale with Om, exhale with Namah Shivaaya.

>

> Now the Moon is placed somewhere in your natal chart. When Shani

hovers (transits) over it or cast his laserbeam eyes on the Moons

10th house during transit, then the Natal Moon, which is our mana

and connection with the public, suffers. I have not talked about

Natal Yoga's yet. If your natal moon is involved in some horrible

yoga's, then Shani's transit gets even worse.

> The logic is simple. The worse the inherrent state of the mind,

the worse will be the effects of people influencing it. And Shani is

definitely among the more malefic type of people.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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> raindancer_1998

> vedic astrology

> Friday, July 11, 2003 6:36 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

degrees) over natal Moon

>

>

> I think I understand what you mean. but just to clarify further

(I

> know I get stupid during these times but I need to get it all

deeper

> into my head ;-)). so, only if my rasi chart's Sani had

something to

> do with my moon's or lagna's position could the kanataka sani

effect

> it and trigger anything?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Namah Shivaaya|

> > Dear Rani,

> > Transiting planets will not express their functional

tendencies,

> only their natural. So the answer is no. Question is what are

the

> transiting planets trigerring in our natal charts?

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > raindancer_1998

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in

> degrees) over natal Moon

> >

> >

> > dear Visti and Gurus,

> >

> > I'm sorry if I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of

> emails.

> > I forgot that I replied to Hari's emails before!

> >

> > on the note of Kantaka Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as

AK

> any

> > relief? or is it even more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna

is

> > cancer and moon is in pisces.

> >

> > thanks!

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Rani,

> > > Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in

ones

> > work. This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon

and

> > Arudha Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these

bhavas

> during

> > its transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt,

and

> > nothing seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant

pain.

> > > The philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati

are

> > different, but we consider them jointly.

> > > Also keep in mind that Transits can be reckoned in

Divisional

> > charts as well. This is the first step into Bhrigu Transits.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > -

> > > raindancer_1998

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly

(in

> > degrees) over natal Moon

> > >

> > >

> > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of! that's what you

told

> me

> > > before. kanataka shani. but what does it mean? you did

tell

> me

> > about

> > > depression and yes, that did happen and is still around

more

> or

> > > less. though I am trying to work thru it.

> > >

> > > also, are kanataka shani's effects separate from (and in

> > addition

> > > to) sadesati?

> > >

> > > rani.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> > <vishnu@l...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > > Dear List,

> > > > Has anyone forgot Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th,

8th

> or

> > 10th.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Visti

> > > > ---

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > > > -

> > > > onlyhari

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn

Exactly

> (in

> > > degrees) over natal Moon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > > Dear Rani,

> > > >

> > > > As much as I sympathize with you, I must say that if

Pi

> is

> > your

> > > > chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of

Sa

> in Ta

> > > (being

> > > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good

for

> you.

> > > 3/6/11

> > > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good as per

> Narasimha's

> > book.

> > > >

> > > > If this is not the case as hinted emphatically by

you,

> then

> > > probably

> > > > there are other factors at work here.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Hari

> > > > vedic-

> astrology, "raindancer_1998"

> > > > <raindancer_1998> wrote:

> > > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari,

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I

seem to

> > > remember

> > > > > Visti once writing that you can have sadesati from

> lagna

> > as

> > > well.

> > > > > but I can't remember the number of the posting.

Hari,

> I

> > would

> > > > > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon.

my

> rashi

> > is

> > > > pisces

> > > > > and these past three-four years were DIFFICULT!

and so

> I'm

> > > ready

> > > > for

> > > > > a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer

and

> I'm

> > right

> > > > inside

> > > > > yet another one :-( .

> > > > >

> > > > > rani.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

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|Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Rani,

Gyan or Vyakha Mudra is the tip of the thumb joined the tip of the index finger,

as the index finger is bent. The other fingers are straight.Best

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:04 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon

thanks Visti. it's much clearer to me now. Sani's transit is as bad as you chart

makes it. I already do the chant you mentioned. but I do not have the rudraksha

mala. don't know where I would get it here. also, what is the gyana mudra?

again, many thanks,rani.vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...> wrote:> > |Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Rani,> From now on i

expect you to recite the mantra; Namah Shivaaya, atleast 108 times a day using

Rudraksha Mala, and Gyana Mudra. If you wanto learn Jyotish then you must put

your body, mind and soul into it. Believe me, you will feel a significant

difference very soon.> Inhale with Om, exhale with Namah Shivaaya.> > Now the

Moon is placed somewhere in your natal chart. When Shani hovers (transits) over

it or cast his laserbeam eyes on the Moons 10th house during transit, then the

Natal Moon, which is our mana and connection with the public, suffers. I have

not talked about Natal Yoga's yet. If your natal moon is involved in some

horrible yoga's, then Shani's transit gets even worse.> The logic is simple.

The worse the inherrent state of the mind, the worse will be the effects of

people influencing it. And Shani is definitely among the more malefic type of

people.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message

----- > raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology >

Friday, July 11, 2003 6:36 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit

Saturn Exactly (in degrees) over natal Moon> > > I think I understand what

you mean. but just to clarify further (I > know I get stupid during these

times but I need to get it all deeper > into my head ;-)). so, only if my

rasi chart's Sani had something to > do with my moon's or lagna's position

could the kanataka sani effect > it and trigger anything? > > rani.> >

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> >

wrote:> > > > |Namah Shivaaya|> > Dear Rani,> > Transiting planets will

not express their functional tendencies, > only their natural. So the answer

is no. Question is what are the > transiting planets trigerring in our natal

charts?> > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > ----- Original

Message ----- > > raindancer_1998 > > To:

vedic astrology > > Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:42 PM>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in > degrees) over

natal Moon> > > > > > dear Visti and Gurus, > > > > I'm sorry if

I sort of repeated myself before in a couple of > emails. > > I forgot

that I replied to Hari's emails before! > > > > on the note of Kantaka

Shani -- Visti -- is having Shani as AK > any > > relief? or is it even

more intense? my AL is scorpio, lagna is > > cancer and moon is in pisces.

> > > > thanks!> > rani. > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > >

Kanataka is thorn, and feels like a constant obstacle in ones > > work.

This work is seen from the 10th house from Lagna, Moon and > > Arudha

Lagna, and when Shani has Graha dristi on these bhavas > during > > its

transit, the effects of the thorn in ones leg are felt, and > > nothing

seems to be going anywhere, whilst causing constant pain.> > > The

philosophies/basis of Kanataka Shani and Sade Sati are > > different, but

we consider them jointly.> > > Also keep in mind that Transits can be

reckoned in Divisional > > charts as well. This is the first step into

Bhrigu Transits.> > > Best wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri

Jagannath Center: http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > >

> raindancer_1998 > > > vedic astrology >

> > Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:36 AM> > > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly (in > > degrees) over natal

Moon> > > > > > > > > visti, THAT's what I was thinking of!

that's what you told > me > > > before. kanataka shani. but what does

it mean? you did tell > me > > about > > > depression and yes, that

did happen and is still around more > or > > > less. though I am trying

to work thru it. > > > > > > also, are kanataka shani's effects

separate from (and in > > addition > > > to) sadesati? > > > >

> > rani.> > > > > > vedic astrology,

"Visti Larsen" > > <vishnu@l...> > > > wrote:> > > > > > >

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > > Dear List,> > > > Has anyone forgot

Kanataka Shani? Shani in 1st, 4th, 8th > or > > 10th.> > > > Best

wishes> > > > Visti> > > > ---> > > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > > - >

> > > onlyhari > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:56 AM> > > > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: Transit Saturn Exactly > (in > > > degrees) over

natal Moon> > > > > > > > > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye

Namah---> > > > Dear Rani,> > > > > > > > As much as I

sympathize with you, I must say that if Pi > is > > your > > > >

chandra lagna, then the gochar 3rd house transit of Sa > in Ta > > >

(being > > > > also the 11th from Cn lagna)should have been good for >

you. > > > 3/6/11 > > > > Gochar transit of Sa is considered good

as per > Narasimha's > > book.> > > > > > > > If this is not

the case as hinted emphatically by you, > then > > > probably > > >

> there are other factors at work here. > > > > > > > >

regards> > > > Hari> > > > vedic->

astrology, "raindancer_1998" > > > >

<raindancer_1998> wrote:> > > > > hi Raji, Anna, and Hari, > >

> > > > > > > > thanks for all your rsponses. it's just that I seem

to > > > remember > > > > > Visti once writing that you can have

sadesati from > lagna > > as > > > well. > > > > > but I

can't remember the number of the posting. Hari, > I > > would > > >

> > breathe big relief if it were only from the moon. my > rashi > > is

> > > > pisces > > > > > and these past three-four years were

DIFFICULT! and so > I'm > > > ready > > > > for > > > >

> a bit of a breather! if not, my lagna is cancer and > I'm > > right >

> > > inside > > > > > yet another one :-( . > > > > > >

> > > > rani.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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