Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ajith, 1. Clarify, are you referring to Parivartana or Vargottama? 2 As per the given texts, no. 3. The Bhava Chalit chakra is drawn for a very different purpose than the jataka. Look here: http://srath.com/lesson/bhava_lagna.htm BV Raman and some other authors have however advocated the use of this chakra, with the natal chart for readings. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com vedic astrology Friday, June 13, 2003 10:45 AM [vedic astrology] Parivartana, retrograde aspects Der memebers & gurus.Would appreciate if someone advice me on the following.1.If planets appear in the same signs in Rasi lagan and navamsa lagna wouldit be considered as parivartna ? Or is the rule applicable to houses only ?2. Would a retragrade planet aspect in the opposite direction like Rahu ?3. If planets in rasi chart differ from the bhava chalita chart , (+/- 15degrees from cusp) which should one accord importance too?Thanking in advaceK. AjithArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Dear Ajit, there appears to be some confusion in what you have asked. If a planet is in same sign in rasi and Navamsa, it is called a Vargottam Planet. Rasi chart being single chart its being similarly placed does not seem possible as you should have two chart for the planet to occupy identical signs in both charts. Retrograde planets do not aspect in opposite direction. You are probably trying to apply Jaimini principles of counting Apasavya when a planet is in an even sign. Bhava chalita system came in to vedic astrology , probably from other sources. I think you should give prime importance to Natal Chart.Other might have different views. Chandrashekhar. - ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com vedic astrology Friday, June 13, 2003 2:15 PM [vedic astrology] Parivartana, retrograde aspects Der memebers & gurus.Would appreciate if someone advice me on the following.1.If planets appear in the same signs in Rasi lagan and navamsa lagna wouldit be considered as parivartna ? Or is the rule applicable to houses only ?2. Would a retragrade planet aspect in the opposite direction like Rahu ?3. If planets in rasi chart differ from the bhava chalita chart , (+/- 15degrees from cusp) which should one accord importance too?Thanking in advaceK. Ajith Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Dear Ajith, > 1.If planets appear in the same signs in Rasi lagan and navamsa lagna would > it be considered as parivartna ? Or is the rule applicable to houses only ? Nope. And this isn't applicable to houses either. Though you haven't been lucid enough, something tells me you're searching for "vargottama". Parivartana is a downright swap between two lords, e.g. Me in Ta and Ve in Ge. > 2. Would a retragrade planet aspect in the opposite direction like Rahu ? I'll give you an answer that not many here will agree with. No retrograde planet aspects in the opposite direction. In fact, no planet moves backwards (hear the harrumphs?), but only appear to do so, relative to earth's own motion. Otoh, Ra actually looks the other way. Which is also why he's capable of aspecting the 12th house from himself. > 3. If planets in rasi chart differ from the bhava chalita chart , (+/- 15 > degrees from cusp) which should one accord importance too? The bhava chalita chart is a Sripathi paddhati signature, and is something that's assigned not much importance in this group. I suggest you ignore it while here. > K. Ajith Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli ################################################################################\ ##### This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ################################################################################\ ##### Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Hello Rampriya: I read you as stating "Rahu is capable of aspecting 12th from itself because it is truly retrograde." Are you pulling our legs or are you serious. If you're serious, please explain your statement. Thanks. Mukund vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ajith, > > > 1.If planets appear in the same signs in Rasi lagan and navamsa lagna > would > > it be considered as parivartna ? Or is the rule applicable to houses only > ? > > Nope. And this isn't applicable to houses either. Though you haven't been > lucid enough, something tells me you're searching for "vargottama". > Parivartana is a downright swap between two lords, e.g. Me in Ta and Ve in > Ge. > > > 2. Would a retragrade planet aspect in the opposite direction like Rahu ? > > I'll give you an answer that not many here will agree with. No retrograde > planet aspects in the opposite direction. In fact, no planet moves backwards > (hear the harrumphs?), but only appear to do so, relative to earth's > own motion. Otoh, Ra actually looks the other way. Which is also why he's > capable of aspecting the 12th house from himself. > > > 3. If planets in rasi chart differ from the bhava chalita chart , (+/- 15 > > degrees from cusp) which should one accord importance too? > > The bhava chalita chart is a Sripathi paddhati signature, and is something > that's assigned not much importance in this group. I suggest you ignore it > while here. > > > K. Ajith > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli@v... > > > > > > ###################################################################### ############### > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of > > the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do > > not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately > > and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of > > communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be > > intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender > > therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the > > contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor > > does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. > > Dodsal Pte Ltd. > > > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared > by MailMarshal > ###################################################################### ############### Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Dear Chandrasekar, Thank you for clearing the doubt. rg K. Ajith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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