Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Dear Sarajit, This looks like 'suicidal' type- L.Lord deb., 4th house badly afflicted and Ma/Sa on AL- what else would you add to this? What remedy would you offer to this lady? Regards, AnnaSarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Hi Group Members, I want to buy the Lal Kitaab for myself and go through it. I have seen many people here who have brought it. Can someone please help me out with the author name , publisher and name of the book. I think this book as a whole cannot be procured but there are books available which have extracts from the Lal Kitaab. regards Rajesh Vswani - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:43 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Sarajit, This looks like 'suicidal' type- L.Lord deb., 4th house badly afflicted and Ma/Sa on AL- what else would you add to this? What remedy would you offer to this lady? Regards, AnnaSarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Dear Tarun and Learned Members, I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend upon the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty and half full" thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad mars is like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves the life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across vast stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and Desert is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then should one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who are responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So good mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver various human beings from one life to another..They are all part of Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which is clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle the hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical happenings! Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated their lives to peaceful and useful research related to industrialization and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all really depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached 40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent. Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by scriptures somewhere. Please explain. Thanks and Regards. Rajesh Kumaria. vedic astrology, "tarun chopra" <astrotarun@r...> wrote: > Hello Members > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab. > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote. > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self. > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert. > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives. > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that. > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart. > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not. > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career. > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab. > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader. > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years > > With my best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > naastrology/ > > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote : > > > > > >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:To: > >vedic astrology > > "amolmandar" > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000 > >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > >Dear Sanjayji > > > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be). > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab. > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have > >any relation to it? > > > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > >AmolMandar > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah? > > > DearNeeraj > > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into > >books, > > > perhaps you will find something interesting. > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > Yours truly, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > ___ > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014 > > > http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay. > > > > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the > > > book during the following dasha > > > > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now. > > > > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to > > > have a copy of it. > > > > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is > > > what i feel) > > > > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab > > > > discussion group at > > > > lalkitab/ and know > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > > > > Dear Niraj > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so > > > > after reading it. If > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not > > > > against the concept of > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is > > > > terrible and some of them > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas, > > > > you would have got the Red > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or > > > > a planet strongly > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of > > > > planets conjoined Guru or > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and > > > > tell us what was your > > > > experience. > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > > I remain > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > >- - > >------ > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > > > > <http://srath.com> > > > > > > > > >- - > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by > > > > different > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I > > > > firmly > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any) > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for > > > > Lal Kitaab. > > > > > > > > neeraj > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ashish, > > > > > > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep > > > > away > > > > > from lalkitab. > > > > > You may find that information if you do some > > > > search > > > > > in this group's > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ashish > > > > > mishra <gituyahu> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has > > > > > experience pls > > > > > share it. thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > ashish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > || > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > _ > Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . > Just Rs.1499/year. > Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Hello Rajesh I know that the things which I say are difficult to understand, if you have good eight house in your horoscope you could have understand your self no one is going to come to give you the answers of the mysteries of this world. It has to experience it your self so I will not give any logics to proof my point I have just wrote the things which I have experience if you like to experience it you should open your eyes and be sensitive to your environment. A good astrologer is a great seer he can predict from any thing like if a person enters with right foot then what will happen and if he comes with left foot what will happen. What kind of clothes he is wearing etc. so astrology is not a logical science if you come to practice it you have to become an mystic first then you can become an astrologer and give the remedies to people which can help them. With kind regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ On Sat, 17 May 2003 Rajesh Mohan Kumaria wrote : >Dear Tarun and Learned Members, >I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend upon >the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology >rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty and half full" >thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad mars is >like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing >always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier >becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier >belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier >is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then >you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one >is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves the >life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across vast >stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and Desert >is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then should >one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the >Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. >Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier >automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who are >responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very >scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So good >mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national >defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very >scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver >various human beings from one life to another..They are all part of >Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only >thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which is >clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle the >hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the >deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical happenings! >Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated their >lives to peaceful and useful research related to industrialization >and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all really >depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is >hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who >has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached >40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent. >Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is >bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to >poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for >prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come >Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the >Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so >that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to >understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by >scriptures somewhere. Please explain. >Thanks and Regards. >Rajesh Kumaria. >vedic astrology, "tarun chopra" ><astrotarun@r...> wrote: >> Hello Members >> >> Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which >> other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a >> real person who has eight house strong can understand the true >> meanings of lal kitab. >> >> Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no >> sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, >> firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a >> mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda >> satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the >> society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has >> wrote. >> >> I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, >> which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the >> saravali book and see it your self. >> >> In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines >> it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this >> planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad >> what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some >> pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to >> a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what >> I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be >> like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament >> etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life >> full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only >> camels are found in desert. >> >> Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people >> when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where >> the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, >> 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will >> have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they >> remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives. >> >> One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the >> famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and >> says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the >> horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed >> in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing >> related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So >> finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture >> of camel in that. >> >> So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her >> destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru >> kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart. >> >> In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home >> and when to not. >> >> Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for >> example if you want to have good career just use the ring which >> got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left >> hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your >> career. >> >> I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are >> guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. >> Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an >> astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one >> like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he >> chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at >> lalkitab. >> >> So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I >> went to get the readings from lalkitab reader. >> >> I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the >> precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do >> the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is >> doing from many years >> >> With my best wishes >> >> Tarun Chopra >> >naastrology/ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote : >> > >> > >> >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:To: >> >vedic astrology >> > "amolmandar" >> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000 >> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab >> > >> > >> >Dear Sanjayji >> > >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the >> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the >> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may >> >be). >> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his >> >replies >> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like >> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this >> >book >> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed >> >in >> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in >> >one >> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me >> >about >> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I >> >got >> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in >> >his >> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can >> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group >> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt >> >for >> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am >> >a >> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to >> >lalkitab. >> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it >> >have >> >any relation to it? >> > >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. >> > >> >AmolMandar >> > >> > >> > >> >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" >> ><srath@s...> >> >wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah? >> > > DearNeeraj >> > > name of my book - please visit >http://srath.com >and look >> >into >> >books, >> > > perhaps you will find something interesting. >> > > With best wishes & regards, >> > > Yours truly, >> > > Sanjay Rath >> > > ___ >> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014 >> > > >http://srath.com > >http://.org >> > > >> > > >> > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000] >> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM >> > > vedic astrology >> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab >> > > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay. >> > > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the >> > > book during the following dasha >> > > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still >> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any >> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now. >> > > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to >> > > have a copy of it. >> > > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given >> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies >> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is >> > > what i feel) >> > > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I >> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY? >> > > >> > > regards, >> > > >> > > Neeraj >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote: >> > > > Hello Everyone, >> > > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab >> > > > discussion group at >> > > > >lalkitab/ >and know >> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this >> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net. >> > > > >> > > > Regards, >> > > > >> > > > Punit Pandey >> > > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| >> > > > Dear Niraj >> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so >> > > > after reading it. If >> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not >> > > > against the concept of >> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is >> > > > terrible and some of them >> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas, >> > > > you would have got the Red >> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or >> > > > a planet strongly >> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of >> > > > planets conjoined Guru or >> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and >> > > > tell us what was your >> > > > experience. >> > > > With best wishes & regards, >> > > > I remain >> > > > Sanjay Rath >> > > > >> > > >> >- >- >> >------ >> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India >> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: >http://srath.com >> > > > < >http://srath.com >> >> > > > >> > > >> >- >- >> >------ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Neeraj Gupta >> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] >> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM >> > > > vedic astrology >> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > hi, >> > > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by >> > > > different >> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I >> > > > firmly >> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any) >> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal >> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic >> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for >> > > > Lal Kitaab. >> > > > >> > > > neeraj >> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: >> > > > > Dear Ashish, >> > > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep >> > > > away >> > > > > from lalkitab. >> > > > > You may find that information if you do some >> > > > search >> > > > > in this group's >> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment. >> > > > > >> > > > > Regards >> > > > > Rao >> > > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, ashish >> > > > > mishra <gituyahu> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > sir, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has >> > > > > experience pls >> > > > > share it. thank you. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ashish >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ===== >> > > > >http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >> > > > >http://search. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Archives: >> > > > >vedic astrology >> > > > >> > > > Group info: >> > > > >> > > >vedic astrology/info.html >> > > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >> > > > vedic astrology- >> > > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> > > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu >> > > > || >> > > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Sponsor >> > > > Archives: >> > > > >vedic astrology >> > > > >> > > > Group info: >> > > > >> > > >vedic astrology/info.html >> > > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >> > > > vedic astrology- >> > > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> > > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu >> > > > || >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Terms of Service. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > News - Today's headlines >> > > >> > > >> > > ===== >> > > >http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >> > > >http://search. >> > > >> > > >> > > Archives: >vedic astrology >> > > >> > > Group info: >> > >vedic astrology/info.html >> > > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- >> > >> > > >> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || >> > > >> > > Your use of is subject to >> > > >> > >> > >> > Sponsor >> > >> >Archives: >vedic astrology >> > >> >Group info: >> > >vedic astrology/info.html >> > >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >> >vedic astrology- >> > >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> > >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || >> > >> > Terms of >> >Service. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >> >> >> >> _ >> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . >> Just Rs.1499/year. >> Click >http://www.rediffmailpro.com >to know more. > Sponsor >Archives: >vedic astrology >Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || >Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service >. _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Lets not involve in such a never ending discussion. Few people raise the question on even vedic astrology in the same way you are raising question on Lal Kitab. But I have seen some good predictions using Lal Kitab. So what I just want to say is - "HAATH KANGAN KO AARSI KYA". Whether it seems tamsik in nature or the remedies do not sound plausible but in my opinion "it works." It is just my opinion and everyone is free to follow his soul. Regards, Punit Pandey Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Dear Tarun and Learned Members,I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend upon the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty and half full" thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad mars is like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves the life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across vast stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and Desert is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then should one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who are responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So good mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver various human beings from one life to another..They are all part of Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which is clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle the hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical happenings! Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated their lives to peaceful and useful research related to industrialization and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all really depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached 40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent.Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by scriptures somewhere. Please explain. Thanks and Regards.Rajesh Kumaria.vedic astrology, "tarun chopra" <astrotarun@r...> wrote:> Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 I know some good bookshops in delhi selling Lal Kitab. Where are you? Punitrajesh vaswani <rajeshworld (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Group Members, I want to buy the Lal Kitaab for myself and go through it. I have seen many people here who have brought it. Can someone please help me out with the author name , publisher and name of the book. I think this book as a whole cannot be procured but there are books available which have extracts from the Lal Kitaab. regards Rajesh Vswani - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:43 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Sarajit, This looks like 'suicidal' type- L.Lord deb., 4th house badly afflicted and Ma/Sa on AL- what else would you add to this? What remedy would you offer to this lady? Regards, AnnaSarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 There must be this sort of test for everyone including vedic, lal kitab and KP astrologers. Regards, Punit Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hello, what i will achieve if i try these kinds of test Regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ On Sat, 17 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote : >Dear Sarajit, > >There must be this sort of test for everyone including vedic, lal >kitab and KP astrologers. > >Regards, > >Punit > >Sarajit Poddar <sarajit wrote: >Jaya Jagannath >Dear Tarun, > >You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been >better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you >have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty >boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the >problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. >Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is >believing. > >Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly >deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention >off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a >too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your >point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. > >+--------------+ >|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | | >| |AL | | | >| | | | | >| | | | | >| | | | | >|-----------+-----------------------+-----------| >|Su Me | | | >|Ra | | | >| | | | >| | | | >| | | | >|-----------| Rasi |-----------| >|As HL | |Ke | >| | | | >| | | | >| | | | >| | | | >|-----------+-----------------------+-----------| >| |GL |JuR Md | | >| | |Gk | | >| | | | | >| | | | | >| | | | | >+--------------+ > >Best Wishes >Sarajit > > > >- "tarun chopra" ><astrotarun ><lalkitab> >Cc: <vedic astrology>; ><naastrology>; <gjlist>; ><>; ><> >Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM >[vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > > > > > Hello Members > > > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique >which > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing >a > > real person who has eight house strong can understand the >true > > meanings of lal kitab. > > > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house >no > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful >results, > > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when >ever a > > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of >yogda > > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from >the > > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > > wrote. > > > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the >problems, > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > > saravali book and see it your self. > > > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm >lines > > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if >bad > > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction >to > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now >what > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will >be > > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good >temperament > > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a >life > > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see >only > > camels are found in desert. > > > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of >people > > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed >where > > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth >house, > > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you >will > > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as >they > > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their >lives. > > > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing >the > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people >and > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw >the > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly >placed > > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any >thing > > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her >home. So > > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a >picture > > of camel in that. > > > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in >her > > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of >guru > > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart. > > > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in >home > > and when to not. > > > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions >for > > example if you want to have good career just use the ring >which > > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your >left > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > > career. > > > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from >Mr. > > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any >one > > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > > lalkitab. > > > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good >that I > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader. > > > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use >the > > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to >do > > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who >is > > doing from many years > > > > With my best wishes > > > > Tarun Chopra > > naastrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote : > > > > > > > > >amolmandar <amolmandar wrote:To: > > >vedic astrology > > > "amolmandar" > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000 > > >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjayji > > > > > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in >the > > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of >the > > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra >may > > >be). > > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > > >replies > > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it >like > > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase >this > > >book > > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I >failed > > >in > > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the >Kitab in > > >one > > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling >me > > >about > > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced >me I > > >got > > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji >in > > >his > > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I >can > > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, >group > > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My >hunt > > >for > > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now >I am > > >a > > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > > >lalkitab. > > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does >it > > >have > > >any relation to it? > > > > > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > >AmolMandar > > > > > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > > ><srath@s...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah? > > > > DearNeeraj > > > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and >look > > >into > > >books, > > > > perhaps you will find something interesting. > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > ___ > > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014 > > > > http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay. > > > > > > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the > > > > book during the following dasha > > > > > > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still > > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any > > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now. > > > > > > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to > > > > have a copy of it. > > > > > > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given > > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies > > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is > > > > what i feel) > > > > > > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I > > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote: > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab > > > > > discussion group at > > > > > lalkitab/ and know > > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this > > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > > > > > Dear Niraj > > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so > > > > > after reading it. If > > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not > > > > > against the concept of > > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is > > > > > terrible and some of them > > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas, > > > > > you would have got the Red > > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or > > > > > a planet strongly > > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of > > > > > planets conjoined Guru or > > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and > > > > > tell us what was your > > > > > experience. > > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > > > I remain > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >------ > > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > > > > > <http://srath.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by > > > > > different > > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I > > > > > firmly > > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any) > > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal > > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic > > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for > > > > > Lal Kitaab. > > > > > > > > > > neeraj > > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ashish, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep > > > > > away > > > > > > from lalkitab. > > > > > > You may find that information if you do some > > > > > search > > > > > > in this group's > > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ashish > > > > > > mishra <gituyahu> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has > > > > > > experience pls > > > > > > share it. thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > > || > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Archives: > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > > || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu >|| > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > >Group info: > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > >vedic astrology- > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > > > _ > > Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . > > Just Rs.1499/year. > > Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > >Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >vedic astrology- > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of >Service. > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. _ Get www. mycompany .com and 5 matching email ids. Just Rs. 1499/ year. Click here http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Dear Punit JI, Well since you are so BOLDLY declaring over the net(practically shouting over the net in capital letters) that Lal Kitab works and since you have already taken a bold stand on this, so please let me know where this Book is available for people who are outside India (Like me) and also which Lal Kitab is authentic(which one is the original work and not the supposedly fake/infamous copies in circulation, as reported by other members..may be this is the main hinderance in getting to the real Lal Kitab.) one and where its available, price etc., . I will try to get it, if I can afford it. Also since it appears that you have found/acknowledged that certain remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab work, so can you please kindly suggest some remedies for the following general cases(then I can try to understand the methodology): (1) Let us say that any native is not getting any job/any stable job, say due to Malefic Antar-dasas or due to evil effects of various planets, who are either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only. (2) There are several Girls/Boys who are of marriage age (and have good jobs and education) yet they are not getting married, or unable to find suitable partners for years and years. Again let us assume its due to malefic antar-dasas or evil effects of various planets. You may assume that various planets stopping marriage are either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only. May be you have encountered such cases and we all can all learn from them/get some info. about Lal Kitab techniques. Thanks and Kind Regards. Rajesh Kumaria. vedic astrology, Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote: > Dear Rajesh Ji, > > Lets not involve in such a never ending discussion. Few people raise the question on even vedic astrology in the same way you are raising question on Lal Kitab. But I have seen some good predictions using Lal Kitab. So what I just want to say is - "HAATH KANGAN KO AARSI KYA". Whether it seems tamsik in nature or the remedies do not sound plausible but in my opinion "it works." > > It is just my opinion and everyone is free to follow his soul. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Tarun and Learned Members, > > I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend upon > the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology > rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty and half full" > thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad mars is > like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing > always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier > becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier > belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier > is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then > you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one > is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves the > life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across vast > stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and Desert > is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then should > one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the > Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. > > > > Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier > automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who are > responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very > scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So good > mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national > defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very > scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver > various human beings from one life to another..They are all part of > Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only > thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which is > clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle the > hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the > deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical happenings! > Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated their > lives to peaceful and useful research related to industrialization > and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all really > depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is > hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who > has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached > 40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent. > > > > Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is > bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to > poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for > prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come > Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the > Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so > that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to > understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by > scriptures somewhere. Please explain. > Thanks and Regards. > Rajesh Kumaria. > > > vedic astrology, "tarun chopra" > <astrotarun@r...> wrote: > > Hello Members > > > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > > meanings of lal kitab. > > > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > > wrote. > > > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > > saravali book and see it your self. > > > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > > camels are found in desert. > > > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives. > > > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > > of camel in that. > > > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart. > > > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > > and when to not. > > > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > > career. > > > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > > lalkitab. > > > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader. > > > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > > doing from many years > > > > With my best wishes > > > > Tarun Chopra > > naastrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote : > > > > > > > > >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:To: > > >vedic astrology > > > "amolmandar" > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000 > > >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjayji > > > > > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the > > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the > > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > > >be). > > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > > >replies > > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like > > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > > >book > > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > > >in > > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > > >one > > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > > >about > > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > > >got > > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > > >his > > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can > > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group > > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > > >for > > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > > >a > > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > > >lalkitab. > > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > > >have > > >any relation to it? > > > > > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > >AmolMandar > > > > > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > > ><srath@s...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah? > > > > DearNeeraj > > > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > > >into > > >books, > > > > perhaps you will find something interesting. > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > ___ > > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014 > > > > http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay. > > > > > > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the > > > > book during the following dasha > > > > > > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still > > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any > > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now. > > > > > > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to > > > > have a copy of it. > > > > > > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given > > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies > > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is > > > > what i feel) > > > > > > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I > > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote: > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab > > > > > discussion group at > > > > > lalkitab/ and know > > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this > > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > > > > > Dear Niraj > > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so > > > > > after reading it. If > > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not > > > > > against the concept of > > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is > > > > > terrible and some of them > > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas, > > > > > you would have got the Red > > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or > > > > > a planet strongly > > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of > > > > > planets conjoined Guru or > > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and > > > > > tell us what was your > > > > > experience. > > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > > > > I remain > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------- -- > - > > >------ > > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > > > > > <http://srath.com> > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------- -- > - > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by > > > > > different > > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I > > > > > firmly > > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any) > > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal > > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic > > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for > > > > > Lal Kitaab. > > > > > > > > > > neeraj > > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ashish, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep > > > > > away > > > > > > from lalkitab. > > > > > > You may find that information if you do some > > > > > search > > > > > > in this group's > > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ashish > > > > > > mishra <gituyahu> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has > > > > > > experience pls > > > > > > share it. thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > > || > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Archives: > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > > || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > >Group info: > > >vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > >vedic astrology- > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > > > _ > > Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . > > Just Rs.1499/year. > > Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more. > > > Sponsor > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hi, Can you give me more details on the books publisher. regards Rajesh Vaswani - Punit Pandey vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Rajesh, I know some good bookshops in delhi selling Lal Kitab. Where are you? Punitrajesh vaswani <rajeshworld (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Group Members, I want to buy the Lal Kitaab for myself and go through it. I have seen many people here who have brought it. Can someone please help me out with the author name , publisher and name of the book. I think this book as a whole cannot be procured but there are books available which have extracts from the Lal Kitaab. regards Rajesh Vswani - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:43 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Sarajit, This looks like 'suicidal' type- L.Lord deb., 4th house badly afflicted and Ma/Sa on AL- what else would you add to this? What remedy would you offer to this lady? Regards, AnnaSarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Dear Sanjay Let me clear this first I have never said that astrology is illogical, I have said that all source of knowledge comes from our true self and from the universal soul who guide us all when it requires, an astrology is truly a divine science a example of this is that a person visit a astrologer only at that time when the stars are in tune with him. An astrologer can clearly put the chart and see that and tell the things of his present or what will happen in near future with a horary chart. So I think an astrologer is blessed with nature he is nearly a mystic. What is definition of mystic by dictionary the occult or supernatural another meaning is who surrender to god and in tune with God. So I think those who are really in tune with nature and honest are the real astrologer who are blessed. When a child try to ride a bicycle he tries with lots of effort in passage of time he learnt and then it comes to him naturally like that initially a person when try to analyze a chart it takes much time but when he has spend his years in reading the charts it comes naturally like some one else is doing that he is just a doer. In lal kitab most of the things are pointing to some direction we have to find the way it is not clearly mentioned what is the real path all are mystified. Like you gave an example of rahu being placed in first house then it spoils the house of sun it is true and it is precise. Now another point in lal kitab when ever sun and Saturn are placed in any house there will be only one person who will earn in same house i.e. when son starts earning father will not earn as he will retire this is true in every chart which has Saturn and sun conjunction a very simple and straight forward rule. Saturn placement in seventh a controversial rule not to discuss here already stones are thrown at me. There are so many rules, which are fundamentals which if we research on that and mix Vedic plus lalkitab rules we can predict and help our selves to much extent. So I hope we should be flexible and try to analyze every rule research on lots of horoscopes and then see if it works or not. Like in lalkitab things are burry in earth what is logic of this say if a planet is being hurt or disturb so they burry the things of that planet into earth. First this means they are giving the support of earth and second they are destroying the characteristics of that planet mystically. If we tell a person that come on your sun is badly placed in horoscope go and burry some copper coins into earth he cannot understand the logic. So here is the mystics because some mystic thing happens when he does this I think there is no big logic for this. In my case I was told to throw honey in to cremation ground my mars is placed in eight house. I did that after some time I have a very bad experience it was nearly escape from near death experience or much harm could have happened, I was wondering why did this happened if I did the remedy. I was told that yes it was like that you may have got much harm but it was in your destiny that you will get the remedy and which will help you so that’s why you are saved and nothing much bad happened. The logic behind the remedy may be that honey is ruled by mars so symbolically the things related to mars were sending to cremation ground, which helped me in mystical way. These remedies are mystical and there may be logics behind all but our mind is not so capable to reach or see that all. I think lalkitab should be researched not condemn at all it is an assets to an astrological world which is not meant to proof the logical world of its genuineness. It is really meant to help the masses, which I think it is doing the purpose. With my humble regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ >Om devaguru brihaspataye namah >Dear Tarun, >While I agree that it is good to be a seer, and don't know what your definition is, but for me it means a soul who has achieved the asta-siddhi, to say that astrology is illogical is something I cannot agree to. There is perfect knowledge and logic. Your lack of knowledge should be given to mean that the knowledge is not there. It is there and people have to learn it. It is a Shastra like Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra. >Man entering with red clothers means Mars is strongly influencing the dvara rasi (door rasi) and so on.There is a logic and mysticism and claims to 'divine power' are all bogus talk. One who is truly spiritual does not have to profess it. The world will know. You don't have to become a mystic to be an astrologer nor be an astrologer to be a mystic. Please quote the dictum or the source from where you learnt this. Please don't give me answers like this was revealed to you because of some mystical power or some mystic told this to you. This mysticism and magic is the cause of scientists and many rational thinkers laughing at the hocus pocus involved in Vedic astrology and we cannot allow this farce to continue. If Lal Kitab requires mysticism or such special power like Karna Pisachini siddhi (power obtained by special female pisachi who speaks the past and present events into the ears), then it is fine with Lal Kitab, but such practises are abhorred in Jyotish and the practitioners are to be kept at bay. Even practises like planchet and spirit calling are totally looked down on in Vedic astrology as the path of the gayatri is professed to be the best for the soul (read varahamihira, Saravali et.al who start with their prayer to Savitur - rasava karana devata). >How can you expect someone like me to respect a body of knowledge that says Venus can be in the 7th house from Mercury!!! Am I blind or has my intelligence become so dull that I do not know the simple calculations of planetary positions. If there is something good in it, then this is what I am prepared to learn with a big THANK YOU. So instead of giving out all this on how our attitude should be, why don't you give us a few readings or a few quotes from the Lal Kitab. If you cannot do so, let me show you how to do it. >To all readers: There is a lot of good things in the lal Kitab as well and that is why I have categorically stated - only look at the Jyotish in it and STAY FAR AWAY from the remedies. In two cases of people whose charts I have never seen you saw how this book came to them during the period of Rahu as i had correctly estimated. So be very careful. This knowledge is fine for Jyotish principles but can destroy your spiritual path. > >OK back to the main point. I cannot remember everything nor do I have the books here, but if I recollect one stanza reads - >"Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat charane laga >Jis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like this. >This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in the throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very malefic and in whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an eclipse shall come to that house. Like this there are a lot of good things to learn from that book, but do that at your risk and only if you are regular with the Ista mantra. In the horoscope of Indian independance, the Rahu sits in the first house or throne indicatng the Sun will become very malefic and destroy whichever house it is in. The Sun is in the third house of neighbours and you can see that since 1947, the relationship with Pakisthan has never been good. Pakisthan also had a split into Pakistan and Bangladesh because of this eclipse combination. There is a lot of political strife in all the neighbouring nations. > >So, Tarun, this is the way to talk and give the matter, else no one will understand anything. And if you try to preach, the people in this are too learned for that...they can sing the Bhagavatam to you. So please take this in the right spirit and encourage the study of Jyotish in a logical manner. > >With best wishes & regards, >I remain >Sanjay Rath >-------- >Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India >Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com> >-------- > > > > tarun chopra [astrotarun] >Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:29 AM >vedic astrology >Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab a wonderful book > > > >Hello Rajesh > >I know that the things which I say are difficult to understand, if you have good eight house in your horoscope you could have understand your self no one is going to come to give you the answers of the mysteries of this world. It has to experience it your self so I will not give any logics to proof my point I have just wrote the things which I have experience if you like to experience it you should open your eyes and be sensitive to your environment. > > A good astrologer is a great seer he can predict from any thing like if a person enters with right foot then what will happen and if he comes with left foot what will happen. What kind of clothes he is wearing etc. so astrology is not a logical science if you come to practice it you have to become an mystic first then you can become an astrologer and give the remedies to people which can help them. > >With kind regards > >Tarun Chopra >naastrology/ > > > _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Here are three pics scanned by me from the lal kitab I follow. It is a very rare copy and I follow this very strictly. I am sure not to many people have this copy. So to see the actual power of my own lal kitab, I challange all to see the three pics found in my rare lal kitab. Then you will understand what is my own lal kitab. I again remind that this is not the lal kitab available out there. It is the lal kitab I follow - not too many people have this rare one. So in other lal kitab these pics are not available. But in my own rare lal kitab you wil find the pics which are essential to understand the basics. If any of you want it, mail me, this rare copy costs around 140$ only. I hope the lal kitab pics open all your eyes. Which I have only in my own lal kitab. http://www.geocities.com/tarun_ayanamsa/tarun_1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/tarun_ayanamsa/tarun_2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/tarun_ayanamsa/tarun_3.jpg With my humble regardsTarun Chopranaastrology/ The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Definitely unhappiness due to the lagna lord and 4th house combination, the Navamsa Lagna would be nice to know. But the suicide thoughts and attempts come from the Moon and Venus aspecting the 3rd from Arudha Lagna. This is a sure combination for suicide as soon as the moon becomes weak.. Jupiter will also have an important say here. The attempts will come in Dasa related to Moon and Venus. Jupiter being lord of Moons sign and placed in Kendra is the remedy. First advise Chamundi Mantra or Durga Kavacha, then later advise Shiva worship with the mantra: Om Namah Shivaaya. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Gurudev, I also suggested the same thing. Show, how the principles work in real life charts. You might have noted that, the moment I posted a simple chart for analysis with the principles of Lal Kitab, one of the students Anna immediately responded that this lady can have suicidal tendencies. However, no one from the Lal kitab side wrote a single line, saying that such tests should be there for all. This is what said in Lal Kitab, source: http://www.originallalkitab.com/uniqueness.htm "Rahu and Ketu, (the lunar nodes) which are always seven houses (180 degrees) apart from each other in the traditional Indian astrology, do not have to be bound by this condition. Especially, while making an annual progressed horoscope using Lal Kitab’s Varshphal chart, these two may or may not be seven houses apart. These two can even occupy adjoining houses. Rahu and Ketu can even be together, when a horoscope is made based on one’s palm or house." Now how can a sane person believe this. One the one hand we have astronomical reality and on the other there is such absurdity, which is based on hunches and do not have any astronomical basis. Tarun! If you elucidate, how some principles work, it would be better than those hollow preaching. Best Wishes Sarajit - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 3:37 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab a wonderful book Om devaguru brihaspataye namahDear Tarun,While I agree that it is good to be a seer, and don't know what your definition is, but for me it means a soul who has achieved the asta-siddhi, to say that astrology is illogical is something I cannot agree to. There is perfect knowledge and logic. Your lack of knowledge should be given to mean that the knowledge is not there. It is there and people have to learn it. It is a Shastra like Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.Man entering with red clothers means Mars is strongly influencing the dvara rasi (door rasi) and so on.There is a logic and mysticism and claims to 'divine power' are all bogus talk. One who is truly spiritual does not have to profess it. The world will know. You don't have to become a mystic to be an astrologer nor be an astrologer to be a mystic. Please quote the dictum or the source from where you learnt this. Please don't give me answers like this was revealed to you because of some mystical power or some mystic told this to you. This mysticism and magic is the cause of scientists and many rational thinkers laughing at the hocus pocus involved in Vedic astrology and we cannot allow this farce to continue. If Lal Kitab requires mysticism or such special power like Karna Pisachini siddhi (power obtained by special female pisachi who speaks the past and present events into the ears), then it is fine with Lal Kitab, but such practises are abhorred in Jyotish and the practitioners are to be kept at bay. Even practises like planchet and spirit calling are totally looked down on in Vedic astrology as the path of the gayatri is professed to be the best for the soul (read varahamihira, Saravali et.al who start with their prayer to Savitur - rasava karana devata).How can you expect someone like me to respect a body of knowledge that says Venus can be in the 7th house from Mercury!!! Am I blind or has my intelligence become so dull that I do not know the simple calculations of planetary positions. If there is something good in it, then this is what I am prepared to learn with a big THANK YOU. So instead of giving out all this on how our attitude should be, why don't you give us a few readings or a few quotes from the Lal Kitab. If you cannot do so, let me show you how to do it.To all readers: There is a lot of good things in the lal Kitab as well and that is why I have categorically stated - only look at the Jyotish in it and STAY FAR AWAY from the remedies. In two cases of people whose charts I have never seen you saw how this book came to them during the period of Rahu as i had correctly estimated. So be very careful. This knowledge is fine for Jyotish principles but can destroy your spiritual path. OK back to the main point. I cannot remember everything nor do I have the books here, but if I recollect one stanza reads -"Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat charane lagaJis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like this.This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in the throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very malefic and in whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an eclipse shall come to that house. Like this there are a lot of good things to learn from that book, but do that at your risk and only if you are regular with the Ista mantra. In the horoscope of Indian independance, the Rahu sits in the first house or throne indicatng the Sun will become very malefic and destroy whichever house it is in. The Sun is in the third house of neighbours and you can see that since 1947, the relationship with Pakisthan has never been good. Pakisthan also had a split into Pakistan and Bangladesh because of this eclipse combination. There is a lot of political strife in all the neighbouring nations. So, Tarun, this is the way to talk and give the matter, else no one will understand anything. And if you try to preach, the people in this are too learned for that...they can sing the Bhagavatam to you. So please take this in the right spirit and encourage the study of Jyotish in a logical manner. With best wishes & regards,I remainSanjay Rath--------Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, IndiaTel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>-Original Message-----tarun chopra [astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com]Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:29 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab a wonderful bookHello RajeshI know that the things which I say are difficult to understand, if you have good eight house in your horoscope you could have understand your self no one is going to come to give you the answers of the mysteries of this world. It has to experience it your self so I will not give any logics to proof my point I have just wrote the things which I have experience if you like to experience it you should open your eyes and be sensitive to your environment. A good astrologer is a great seer he can predict from any thing like if a person enters with right foot then what will happen and if he comes with left foot what will happen. What kind of clothes he is wearing etc. so astrology is not a logical science if you come to practice it you have to become an mystic first then you can become an astrologer and give the remedies to people which can help them.With kind regardsTarun Chopranaastrology/Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, If you try such test, you shall be able to convince the Jyotisha here in this list for which you wrote such lenthy mail praising Lal Kitab. That would be the real achivement. Also, we shall know how you use the principles of Lal Kitab. Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <vedic astrology> Saturday, May 17, 2003 3:05 PM Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello,> > what i will achieve if i try these kinds of test> > Regards> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > On Sat, 17 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >Dear Sarajit,> >> >There must be this sort of test for everyone including vedic, lal > >kitab and KP astrologers.> >> >Regards,> >> >Punit> >> >Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:> >Jaya Jagannath> >Dear Tarun,> >> >You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been > >better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you > >have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty > >boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the > >problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. > >Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is > >believing.> >> >Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly > >deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention > >off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a > >too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your > >point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements.> >> >+--------------+> >|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | |> >| |AL | | |> >| | | | |> >| | | | |> >| | | | |> >|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> >|Su Me | | |> >|Ra | | |> >| | | |> >| | | |> >| | | |> >|-----------| Rasi |-----------|> >|As HL | |Ke |> >| | | |> >| | | |> >| | | |> >| | | |> >|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> >| |GL |JuR Md | |> >| | |Gk | |> >| | | | |> >| | | | |> >| | | | |> >+--------------+> >> >Best Wishes> >Sarajit> >> >> >> >- "tarun chopra" > ><astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>> ><lalkitab>> >Cc: <vedic astrology>; > ><naastrology>; <gjlist>; > ><>; > ><>> >Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM> >[vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book> >> >> >> > > Hello Members> > >> > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique > >which> > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing > >a> > > real person who has eight house strong can understand the > >true> > > meanings of lal kitab.> > >> > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house > >no> > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful > >results,> > > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when > >ever a> > > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of > >yogda> > > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from > >the> > > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has> > > wrote.> > >> > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the > >problems,> > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the> > > saravali book and see it your self.> > >> > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm > >lines> > > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this> > > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if > >bad> > > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some> > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction > >to> > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now > >what> > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will > >be> > > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good > >temperament> > > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a > >life> > > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see > >only> > > camels are found in desert.> > >> > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of > >people> > > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed > >where> > > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth > >house,> > > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you > >will> > > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as > >they> > > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their > >lives.> > >> > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing > >the> > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people > >and> > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw > >the> > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly > >placed> > > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any > >thing> > > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her > >home. So> > > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a > >picture> > > of camel in that.> > >> > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in > >her> > > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of > >guru> > > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > >> > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in > >home> > > and when to not.> > >> > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions > >for> > > example if you want to have good career just use the ring > >which> > > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your > >left> > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your> > > career.> > >> > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are> > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from > >Mr.> > > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an> > > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any > >one> > > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he> > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at> > > lalkitab.> > >> > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good > >that I> > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > >> > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use > >the> > > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to > >do> > > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who > >is> > > doing from many years> > >> > > With my best wishes> > >> > > Tarun Chopra> > > naastrology/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> > > >> > > >> > > >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:To:> > > >vedic astrology> > > > "amolmandar"> > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> > > >Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > >Dear Sanjayji> > > >> > > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in > >the> > > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of > >the> > > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra > >may> > > >be).> > > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his> > > >replies> > > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it > >like> > > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase > >this> > > >book> > > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I > >failed> > > >in> > > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the > >Kitab in> > > >one> > > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling > >me> > > >about> > > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced > >me I> > > >got> > > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji > >in> > > >his> > > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I > >can> > > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, > >group> > > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My > >hunt> > > >for> > > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now > >I am> > > >a> > > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to> > > >lalkitab.> > > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does > >it> > > >have> > > >any relation to it?> > > >> > > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > >> > > >AmolMandar> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"> > > ><srath@s...>> > > >wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > > > DearNeeraj> > > > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and > >look> > > >into> > > >books,> > > > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > > Yours truly,> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > ___> > > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > > > http://srath.com http://.org> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > > > >> > > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > > > book during the following dasha> > > > >> > > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > > > >> > > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > > > have a copy of it.> > > > >> > > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > > > what i feel)> > > > >> > > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Neeraj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > > > Hello Everyone,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > > > discussion group at> > > > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > >> > > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > > > Dear Niraj> > > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > > > after reading it. If> > > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > > > against the concept of> > > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > > > terrible and some of them> > > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > > > you would have got the Red> > > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > > > a planet strongly> > > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > > > tell us what was your> > > > > > experience.> > > > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > > > I remain> > > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >--> > > >------> > > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > > > <http://srath.com>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >--> > > >------> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > hi,> > > > > >> > > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > > > different> > > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > > > firmly> > > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > > > >> > > > > > neeraj> > > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > > > away> > > > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > > > search> > > > > > > in this group's> > > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Rao> > > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sir,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > > > experience pls> > > > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ashish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > =====> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > > > http://search.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > >> > > > > > Group info:> > > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > >> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > >> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > >> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > > > ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Groups Sponsor> > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > >> > > > > > Group info:> > > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > >> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > >> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > >> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > > > ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Terms of Service.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you ?> > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > =====> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > > http://search.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > >> > > > > Group info:> > > >vedic astrology/info.html> > > > >> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > >> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > >> > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > >||> > > > >> > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > >> > > >Archives: vedic astrology> > > >> > > >Group info:> > > >vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > >vedic astrology-> > > >> > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > >> > > >Your use of is subject to the Terms of> > > >Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > >> > >> > >> > > _> > > Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> > > Just Rs.1499/year.> > > Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > >> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Get www. mycompany .com and 5 matching email ids.> Just Rs. 1499/ year.> Click here http://www.rediffmailpro.com> > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Sagar Publications, 72 Janpath, New delhi 110001 - rajesh vaswani vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:44 PM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Hi, Can you give me more details on the books publisher. regards Rajesh Vaswani - Punit Pandey vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:35 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Rajesh, I know some good bookshops in delhi selling Lal Kitab. Where are you? Punitrajesh vaswani <rajeshworld (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Group Members, I want to buy the Lal Kitaab for myself and go through it. I have seen many people here who have brought it. Can someone please help me out with the author name , publisher and name of the book. I think this book as a whole cannot be procured but there are books available which have extracts from the Lal Kitaab. regards Rajesh Vswani - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:43 AM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Dear Sarajit, This looks like 'suicidal' type- L.Lord deb., 4th house badly afflicted and Ma/Sa on AL- what else would you add to this? What remedy would you offer to this lady? Regards, AnnaSarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Jaya JagannathDear Tarun, You have written a lot to boast lal-kitab. It would have been better, if you had posted few charts, applying the techniques you have learnt from Lalkitab. Otherwise, it seems like empty boasting. Now I am pasting a chart, can you tell me, what is the problem with this native. This is one lady's chart and not mine. Demonstrate, how well Lal-kitab works, `coz seeing is believing. Moreoever, the statement, "I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the saravali book and see it your self." is a too generic statement. Give sufficient references to prove your point, othewise do not make such sweeping statements. +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Visti, Both Anna and You have passed the test put to someone else. The native had failed miserably in her marriage with someone whome she loved for quite long and the marriage ended in months. See the affliction to the 2nd lord from UL, Mercury by Rahu. The UL is also affected by the Rahu- Ketu axis, and the lord of UL is under the eclipse, showing how troublesome and devious the spouse family would be. Juputer is really the key as it aspects the 4th house where the terrible fight is happening between the blue and red guys. Now before I give my thoughts on Venus, I would like to know why you think that the attempts shall come in the Moon or Venus Dasa. Such well placed benefics shall barely harm the native. During the dasa of the planets having papakartari on the Moon or Venus, this is more probable. Isn't it? Here is the Navamsa for more info... +--------------+|Ra |HL |Su |Ma || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md | |Sa || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Me JuR | |As Ve || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Gk AL |Mo |Ke GL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:49 PM Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book |Hare Rama Krishna| Definitely unhappiness due to the lagna lord and 4th house combination, the Navamsa Lagna would be nice to know. But the suicide thoughts and attempts come from the Moon and Venus aspecting the 3rd from Arudha Lagna. This is a sure combination for suicide as soon as the moon becomes weak.. Jupiter will also have an important say here. The attempts will come in Dasa related to Moon and Venus. Jupiter being lord of Moons sign and placed in Kendra is the remedy. First advise Chamundi Mantra or Durga Kavacha, then later advise Shiva worship with the mantra: Om Namah Shivaaya. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org +--------------+|Mo Ve |Ma Sa | | || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Me | | ||Ra | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As HL | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |GL |JuR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Best Wishes Sarajit - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <lalkitab> Cc: <vedic astrology>; <naastrology>; <gjlist>; <>; <> Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 AM [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book > Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra> naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:> >vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji> >> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > >about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > >got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his> >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,> > > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > > >> > > > >--> >------> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > >> > > > hi,> > > >> > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > >> > > > neeraj> > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > >> > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > away> > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > search> > > > > in this group's> > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > experience pls> > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > >> > > > > > ashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > http://search.> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > ||> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines> > >> > >> > > =====> > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > http://search.> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >Archives: vedic astrology> >> >Group info: > >vedic astrology/info.html> >> >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > >vedic astrology-> >> >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Terms of > >Service.> >> >> >> >> >Do you ?> >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > _> Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com .> Just Rs.1499/year.> Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.> > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading!> Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./aM1XQD/od7FAA/uetFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hello i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing some myschif with me so i will recomend that it should be taken care off regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hello i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing some myschif with me so i will recomend that it should be taken care off regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Om devaguru brihaspataye namah Dear Tarun Chopra You have mailed some dirty picture links to this list showing and proving the point I was making about Lal Kitab and spirituality. You have your own E-group at naastrology/ and we believe that you can go there and do your preaching and send such links. No decent person will ever want to have anything to do with you. Incidentally for readers, this is what Tarun uses: New Tarun chopra ayanamsa: ------- The value of My Ayanamsha is 01/01/1155 (50.2719). You can deviate 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha. Which means you can subtract 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha and you will get mine Ayanamsha. Those who want to discuss their horoscopes can write me personally at my Email address astrotarun. Best Wishes Tarun Chopra --------- May I request you to leave this list and do your discussions in your list. With best wishes & regards, I remain Sanjay Rath -------- Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com> -------- tarun chopra [astrotarun] Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:06 PM vedic astrology Cc: ; ; gjlist Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Hello i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing some myschif with me so i will recomend that it should be taken care off regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Dear sir i am not this person some one is creating some troubles with my name Tarun Chopra On Sat, 17 May 2003 Sanjay Rath wrote : >Om devaguru brihaspataye namah >Dear Tarun Chopra >You have mailed some dirty picture links to this list showing and >proving >the point I was making about Lal Kitab and spirituality. You have >your own >E-group at >naastrology/ >and we believe that >you can go there and do your preaching and send such links. No >decent person >will ever want to have anything to do with you. >Incidentally for readers, this is what Tarun uses: New Tarun >chopra >ayanamsa: >------- >The value of My Ayanamsha is 01/01/1155 (50.2719). >You can deviate 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha. >Which means >you can subtract 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha >and you will >get mine Ayanamsha. >Those who want to discuss their horoscopes can write me >personally at my >Email address astrotarun. Best Wishes Tarun Chopra >--------- >May I request you to leave this list and do your discussions in >your list. >With best wishes & regards, >I remain >Sanjay Rath >-------- >Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India >Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: >http://srath.com >< >http://srath.com >> >-------- > > tarun chopra [astrotarun] >Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:06 PM >vedic astrology >Cc: ; >; gjlist >Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book >Hello >i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and >lalkitab >priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab >principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has >something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly >note >my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing >some myschif with me >so i will recomend that it should be taken care off >regards >Tarun Chopra >naastrology/ >_ >Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. >Just Rs.1499/year. >To start, click >http://www.rediffmailpro.com >Archives: >vedic astrology >Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >vedic astrology- >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || >Your use of is subject to > > Sponsor >Archives: >vedic astrology >Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to >vedic astrology- >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || >Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service >. _ Get www. mycompany .com and 5 matching email ids. Just Rs. 1499/ year. Click here http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Om devaguru brihaspataye namah Dear Tarun Oh just noticed that the ID is different..sorry for those harsh words. With best wishes & regards, I remain Sanjay Rath -------- Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com> -------- tarun chopra [astrotarun] Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:05 PM vedic astrology Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Hello i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing some myschif with me so i will recomend that it should be taken care off regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Om devaguru brihaspataye namah Dear Tarun Oh just noticed that the ID is different..sorry for those harsh words. With best wishes & regards, I remain Sanjay Rath -------- Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com> -------- tarun chopra [astrotarun] Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:05 PM vedic astrology Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book Hello i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing some myschif with me so i will recomend that it should be taken care off regards Tarun Chopra naastrology/ _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 With due respect I want to oppose your statement "You have mailed some dirty picture links to this list showing and proving the point I was making about Lal Kitab and spirituality." Lal Kitab should not be blamed if one person is doing some mischievous things. I guess that anyone can send e-mail using anyone's e-mail address. It must be verified that whether it is possible to send e-mail using some other id and also whether both the Tarun's are same. Regards, Punit PandeySanjay Rath <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote: Om devaguru brihaspataye namahDear Tarun ChopraYou have mailed some dirty picture links to this list showing and provingthe point I was making about Lal Kitab and spirituality. You have your ownE-group at naastrology/ and we believe thatyou can go there and do your preaching and send such links. No decent personwill ever want to have anything to do with you.Incidentally for readers, this is what Tarun uses: New Tarun chopraayanamsa:-------The value of My Ayanamsha is 01/01/1155 (50.2719).You can deviate 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha. Which meansyou can subtract 12 degree four minutes from Lahiri's Ayanamsha and you willget mine Ayanamsha.Those who want to discuss their horoscopes can write me personally at myEmail address astrotarun . Best Wishes Tarun Chopra---------May I request you to leave this list and do your discussions in your list.With best wishes & regards,I remainSanjay Rath--------Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, IndiaTel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>-Original Message-----tarun chopra [astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com]Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:06 PMvedic astrologyCc: ;; gjlistSubject: Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful bookHelloi am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitabpriciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitabprinciples, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it hassomething worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly notemy email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doingsome myschif with meso i will recomend that it should be taken care offregardsTarun Chopranaastrology/_Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com.Just Rs.1499/year.To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.