lalkitab a wonderful book

May 17, 2003

I was just wondering about exactly why Venus is part of the problem. Is it

because it owns the 5th house in this chart or, regardless of lagna, would the

Venus/Moon combination create problems aspecting the third from AL?

Sincerely,

LaurieVisti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Definitely unhappiness due to the lagna lord and 4th house combination, the

Navamsa Lagna would be nice to know. But the suicide thoughts and attempts

come from the Moon and Venus aspecting the 3rd from Arudha Lagna. This is a

sure combination for suicide as soon as the moon becomes weak.. Jupiter will

also have an important say here. The attempts will come in Dasa related to Moon

and Venus.

Jupiter being lord of Moons sign and placed in Kendra is the remedy. First

advise Chamundi Mantra or Durga Kavacha, then later advise Shiva worship with

the mantra: Om Namah Shivaaya.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Best Wishes

Sarajit

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[vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book

> Hello Members> > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which

> other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > real person

who has eight house strong can understand the true > meanings of lal kitab.> >

Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > sign is

consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > firstly it is written

in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > mystic speaks he speaks in an

poetic form. I am a member of yogda > satsangh society their I regularly gets

the postings from the > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji

has > wrote.> > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems,

> which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > saravali book

and see it your self.> > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the

palm lines > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this >

planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > what will

be the results, there it has also mentioned some > pictures like if a good mars

in horoscope it point a direction to > a solider, and if bad mars it gives

direction to a camel now what > I understand from this that those who have good

mars they will be > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good

temperament > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life

> full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > camels are

found in desert.> > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of

people > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > the

mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > 12th house so I

tell them that go and see in your home you will > have a camel picture in your

home just remove it. And as they > remove them the happiness and prosperity

comes into their lives.> > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see

was wearing the > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people

and > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the >

horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > in a

horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > related to camel but

she could not found any camel in her home. So > finally I went to their home and

found a calendar where a picture > of camel in that.> > So as soon I removed

that she start feeling better. It was in her > destiny that she will be helped

by an astrologer because of guru > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.>

> In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > and when

to not.> > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for >

example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > got from your

wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > hand and see the life how

does it changes in terms of your > career.> > I am no good in lal kitab I make

my own remedies, which are > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal

kitab from Mr. > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an >

astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > like to

contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > chargers 500 rupees for

one chart. And he is really good at > lalkitab.> > So I hope no one condemns

lal kitab or says it is not good that I > went to get the readings from

lalkitab reader.> > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use

the > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > the

remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > doing from many

years> > With my best wishes> > Tarun Chopra>

naastrology/> > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit

Pandey wrote :> >> >> >amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:>

>vedic astrology> > "amolmandar"> >Fri, 16 May 2003

11:17:25 -0000> >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> >> >> >Dear Sanjayji>

>> >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> >ve/ju/ra.

I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> >astrology.I was not aware

of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > >be).> >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very

group,Chandrashekharji in his > >replies> >told me about the Lal kitab. I then

tried to purchase it like> >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to

purchase this > >book> >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the

other I failed > >in> >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the

Kitab in > >one> >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me >

>about> >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I >

>got> >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > >his>

>replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> >purchase it.

I got it without any problems. After that, group> >declared new Gurus and I

requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > >for> >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya

of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >a> >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly

I will never go to > >lalkitab.> >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in

12th house. Does it > >have> >any relation to it?> >> >Thanks a lot for your

Time and Sapce.> >> >AmolMandar> >> >> >> >--- In

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > ><srath@s...>> >wrote:> > >> >

>> > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > DearNeeraj> > > name of my book

- please visit http://srath.com and look > >into> >books,> > > perhaps you will

find something interesting.> > > With best wishes & regards,> > > Yours truly,>

> > Sanjay Rath> > > ___> > > H-5 B J B

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http://.org> > >> > > > > > Neeraj

Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45

PM> > > vedic astrology> > > RE: [vedic astrology]

Re: lalkitab> > >> > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > >> > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and

CORRECT. I possessed the> > > book during the following dasha> > >> > >

Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > have them, but I

don't refer them / read them any> > > more. I am more inclined to vedic

astrology now.> > >> > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to>

> > have a copy of it.> > >> > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as

given> > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > (it

appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > what i feel)> > >> > >

How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > possessed the book.

Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Neeraj> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > Hello Everyone,>

> > >> > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > >

discussion group at> > > > lalkitab/ and know> >

> > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > group is the best

resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey>

> > >> > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Om

brihaspataye namah||> > > > Dear Niraj> > > > Thanks for saying this as I am

happy that you say so> > > > after reading it. If> > > > you note my

observations in my books, I am not> > > > against the concept of> > > >

learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > terrible and some of

them> > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > you would

have got the Red> > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> >

> > a planet strongly> > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > >

> planets conjoined Guru or> > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check

and> > > > tell us what was your> > > > experience.> > > > With best wishes &

regards,> > > > I remain> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >> > > >

>--> >------>

> > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > >

Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > <http://srath.com>> > >

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2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > different> > > > authors. But

after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > firmly> > > > believe that Lal Kitaab

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I was not shouting but writing in capital letters because the text was in hindi.

Sorry for that. The original Lal Kitab is available in only photostat format

(problem no.1) so I have no idea from where it can be obtained. Although I know

where it is available in Delhi. Lal Kitab is only available in Urdu (problem no.

2) so it is difficult to understand. There are around 5 genuine editions of Lal

Kitab in which as per my knowledge 1952 edition is most useful. It has around

1200 pages.

Let me accept that I am not the expert Lal Kitab astrologer. So I just don't

want to suggest any remedies. I have only general idea of predictive Lal Kitab

astrology. I am basically a KP astrologer and can help in that, if required. If

required, I can post this remedies request on lalkitab where some

good Lal Kitab astrologer might suggest some remedies.

Also please note that in Lal Kitab there is no Vimshottari Dasha system rather

there is 36 year cycles. Events are timed combining this 36 year cycle with Lal

Kitab Varshaphal method. Also 6/8/12 house are not considered malefic the way in

classical astrology.

I'll try to answer your queries in next e-mails.

Regards,

Punit Pandey Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote:

Dear Punit JI, Well since you are so BOLDLY declaring over the net(practically

shouting over the net in capital letters) that Lal Kitab works and since you

have already taken a bold stand on this, so please let me know where this Book

is available for people who are outside India(Like me) and also which Lal Kitab

is authentic(which one is the original work and not the supposedly fake/infamous

copies in circulation, as reported by other members..may be this is the main

hinderance in getting to the real Lal Kitab.) one and where its available,

price etc., . I will try to get it, if I can afford it. Also since it appears

that you have found/acknowledged that certain remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab

work, so can you please kindly suggest some remedies for the following general

cases(then I can try to understand the methodology): (1) Let us say that any

native is not getting any job/any stable job, say due to Malefic Antar-dasas or

due to evil effects of various planets, who are either placed in 6th/8th/12th

houses or are lords of these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be

sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only.(2) There are several

Girls/Boys who are of marriage age (and have good jobs and education) yet they

are not getting married, or unable to find suitable partners for years and

years. Again let us assume its due to malefic antar-dasas or evil effects of

various planets. You may assume that various planets stopping marriage are

either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any general

ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only.May be

you have encountered such cases and we all can all learn from them/get some

info. about Lal Kitab techniques. Thanks and Kind Regards. Rajesh Kumaria.---

In vedic astrology, Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:>

Dear Rajesh Ji,> > Lets not involve in such a never ending discussion. Few

people raise the question on even vedic astrology in the same way you are

raising question on Lal Kitab. But I have seen some good predictions using Lal

Kitab. So what I just want to say is - "HAATH KANGAN KO AARSI KYA". Whether it

seems tamsik in nature or the remedies do not sound plausible but in my opinion

"it works."> > It is just my opinion and everyone is free to follow his soul. >

> Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

wrote:> Dear Tarun and Learned Members,> > I think the various things that you

have mentioned sofar depend upon > the viewer's perspective only and hardly

supported by astrology > rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty

and half full" > thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad

mars is > like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing >

always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier > becomes a

great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier > belongs to an

offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier > is the person involved

in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then > you need a Good Soldier to fight

the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one > is passing through the Desert, the Camel

is the one who saves the > life and helps the people carry goods and human

beings across vast > stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert

and Desert > is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then

should > one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the >

Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. > > > > Also you

did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier > automatically. God

mars can also lead to those scientists who are > responsible for weapons

development and so indirectly these very > scientists are responsible for human

destruction everywhere. So good > mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the

name of national > defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very >

scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver > various human

beings from one life to another..They are all part of > Gigiantic Karma Cycle

at Planet level and nothing more. The only > thing is it took me several years

to understand all this, which is > clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita

everywhere. By the same angle the > hard working Camel was sent to help good

human beings across the > deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some

illogical happenings! > Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who

dedicated their > lives to peaceful and useful research related to

industrialization > and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it

all really > depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is >

hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who > has

worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached > 40/42 age or

more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent.> > > > Similarly you

said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is > bad for finances etc.,

You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to > poverty. Well then why are millions

praying to Ganesha for > prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then

how come > Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the >

Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so > that the

human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to > understand all your

logics. Are all these things supported by > scriptures somewhere. Please

explain. > Thanks and Regards.> Rajesh Kumaria.> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "tarun chopra" > <astrotarun@r...> wrote:> >

Hello Members> > > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique

which > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > >

real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > > meanings of

lal kitab.> > > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with

house no > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, >

> firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > > mystic

speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > > satsangh society

their I regularly gets the postings from the > > society and I can see that how

well poems yogananda ji has > > wrote.> > > > I was telling that Lal kitab is

mainly deals with the problems, > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off

you can pick the > > saravali book and see it your self.> > > > In lalkitab

you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > > it has clearly

mentioned there how the lines will be if this > > planet is there and if it is

good what are the results and if bad > > what will be the results, there it has

also mentioned some > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a

direction to > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now

what > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > >

like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > > etc and

those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > > full of desert a

camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > > camels are found in desert.>

> > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > >

when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > > the mars

badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > > 12th house so I

tell them that go and see in your home you will > > have a camel picture in

your home just remove it. And as they > > remove them the happiness and

prosperity comes into their lives.> > > > One day one of my close friend sister

got ill see was wearing the > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives

to all people and > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I

draw the > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed >

> in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > > related to

camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > > finally I went to

their home and found a calendar where a picture > > of camel in that.> > > > So

as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > > destiny that

she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > > kirpa where a guru

aspect her Lagna chart.> > > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use

any yantra in home > > and when to not.> > > > Lal kitab has really great

remedies which are just precautions for > > example if you want to have good

career just use the ring which > > got from your wife parents side and wear

that ring in your left > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms

of your > > career.> > > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies,

which are > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr.

> > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > > astrological

magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > > like to contact him is

email id is lalkitab and he > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he

is really good at > > lalkitab.> > > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or

says it is not good that I > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.>

> > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > >

precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > > the

remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > > doing from

many years> > > > With my best wishes> > > > Tarun Chopra> >

naastrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16

May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> > >> > >> > >amolmandar <amolmandar>

wrote:> > >vedic astrology> > > "amolmandar"> >

>Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> > >[vedic astrology] Re:

lalkitab> > >> > >> > >Dear Sanjayji> > >> > >You are very correct. I got

exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about

remedial aspect of the> > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab

then(ve/JU/ra may > > >be).> > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very

group,Chandrashekharji in his > > >replies> > >told me about the Lal kitab. I

then tried to purchase it like> > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I

tried to purchase this > > >book> > >3-4 times. Every time because of some

thing or the other I failed > > >in> > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was

going through the Kitab in > > >one> > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to

sell,started telling me > > >about> > >the good effects of the kitab. The way

he tried to convinced me I > > >got> > >nervous. I did not purchase the book.

Then Chandrashekharji in > > >his> > >replies gave me your book and the address

as well where I can> > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After

that, group> > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt >

> >for> > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > >

>a> > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > >

>lalkitab.> > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it

> > >have> > >any relation to it?> > >> > >Thanks a lot for your Time and

Sapce.> > >> > >AmolMandar> > >> > >> > >> > >--- In

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" > > ><srath@s...>> > >wrote:> >

> >> > > >> > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > > DearNeeraj> > > >

name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > > >into> > >books,>

> > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > > With best wishes &

regards,> > > > Yours truly,> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > >

___> > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar,

India 751014> > > > http://srath.com http://.org> > >

>> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

[gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> >

> > vedic astrology> > > > RE: [vedic astrology]

Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > > >> > > > You are AMAZINGLY

TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > > book during the following dasha> > >

>> > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > > have

them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > > more. I am more inclined to

vedic astrology now.> > > >> > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would

love to> > > > have a copy of it.> > > >> > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies

are different as given> > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of

remedies> > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > >

what i feel)> > > >> > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> >

> > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > > >> > > > regards,> > >

>> > > > Neeraj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- Punit Pandey

<punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > > Hello Everyone,> > > > >> > > > > Anyone

interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > > discussion group at> > > > >

lalkitab/ and know> > > > > more about the system.

I think the archive of this> > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on

Net.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > >> > > >

> Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ||Om brihaspataye

namah||> > > > > Dear Niraj> > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that

you say so> > > > > after reading it. If> > > > > you note my observations in

my books, I am not> > > > > against the concept of> > > > > learning jyotish

ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > > terrible and some of them> > > > > are

very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > > you would have got the

Red> > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > > a

planet strongly> > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > >

> planets conjoined Guru or> > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to

check and> > > > > tell us what was your> > > > > experience.> > > > > With

best wishes & regards,> > > > > I remain> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > >> > > > >

> >-> -> >

>------> > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > >

Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > > <http://srath.com>> >

> > >> > > > > >

>-> -> >

>------> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Neeraj Gupta> > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > > Thursday,

May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > >

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > hi,> > >

> >> > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > > different> >

> > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > > firmly> > > > >

believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > > and vedic

astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view,

if you are into vedic> > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO

for> > > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > > >> > > > > neeraj> > > > > --- Rao Nemani

<raonemani> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > > >> > > > > > I think

one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > > away> > > > > > from

lalkitab.> > > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > >

search> > > > > > in this group's> > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.>

> > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Rao> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, ashish> > > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > >

> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > how

correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > > experience pls> > > > >

> share it. thank you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ashish> > > > > > >> > > > > >

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Dear Tarun,

I'm now setting my OE to killfile posts from you from the server itself.

Others, I'm sure, would've killed you likewise already. You really are

disgusting.

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hubli

-

"tarun chopra" <astrotarun

Saturday, May 17, 2003 3:35 PM

Re: Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book

> Hello

>

> i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab

> priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab

> principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has

> something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note

> my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing

> some myschif with me

>

> so i will recomend that it should be taken care off

>

> regards

>

> Tarun Chopra

> naastrology/

May 17, 2003

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Sarajit and Laurie,

If we are talking about Vimshottari Dasa then the answer is No.

Fact is that the state of ones mind is seen from the Vimshottari dasa lord, and

in this case Moon and Venus being under papakartari Yoga will show when she

feels totally confused with life.

Now there Rasi dristi on the 3rd from AL shows that this state of mind will lead

her to suicide attempts.. this is very clear. Laurie, the 3rd from the Arudha

Lagna shows ones circumstances at death.

Now the lordship and Karakatwa of Moon and Venus will indicate the reasons.

Moon is 7th lord and being under Papakartari Yoga she will feel that in issues

of marriage (7th lord) she is getting the wrong type of suport (study

Kemadruma,etc yoga) from people (especially spouse due to Rahu in the 12th from

Moon) and as Venus is Karaka for marriage and love, this will definitely happen

in such matters.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:30 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] lalkitab a wonderful book

Jaya Jagannath Dear Visti,

Both Anna and You have passed the test put to someone else. The native had

failed miserably in her marriage with someone whome she loved for quite long

and the marriage ended in months. See the affliction to the 2nd lord from UL,

Mercury by Rahu. The UL is also affected by the Rahu- Ketu axis, and the lord

of UL is under the eclipse, showing how troublesome and devious the spouse

family would be. Juputer is really the key as it aspects the 4th house where

the terrible fight is happening between the blue and red guys. Now before I

give my thoughts on Venus, I would like to know why you think that the attempts

shall come in the Moon or Venus Dasa. Such well placed benefics shall barely

harm the native. During the dasa of the planets having papakartari on the Moon

or Venus, this is more probable. Isn't it?

Here is the Navamsa for more info...

+--------------+|Ra |HL |Su

|Ma || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md |

|Sa || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Navamsa |-----------||Me JuR | |As Ve ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Gk AL |Mo

|Ke GL || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+

Best Wishes

Sarajit

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Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:49 PM