Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya dear Visti The calculations look similar to Moola dasa. If yes, then do we need to look at D-60. regards partha Om Tat Sat vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > ----------------------------- > Dear Lakshmi, > See my answers to your comments in red. > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > lakshmisyama > vedic astrology > Monday, May 05, 2003 4:26 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Käraka Kendradi Dasa (deb. Rahu discussion reply to Sanjay) > > > Hare Krishna > Dear Visti- > Thank-you for your post and introduction to Karaka Kendradi Graha > Dasa-Im looking forward to your class this summer! > Few comments on your post > I found this interesting- The first Mahadasa is sat- is this because > it is my AK? In my chart Sat is conjoined the Moon which is in > itself is a combination for depression- but it gave me compassion > for others at a young age. > Visti: I will explain the calculations in the US, but yes the Dasa's start from the kendra to AK, in ur case AK itself.. this varries depending on who is eager to teach first. > The first Dasa of "Saturn the sorrowful" is exalted and joined Moon, hence your soul learnt the most giving and compassionate lessons. How to enjoy life was learnt very well during this time, and no doubt this would have taken its peak during Saturn-Mercury Dasa as mercury is your Matrikaraka. Keep in mind that the road to compassion is full of sorrows.. a happy person is usually happy for their own good, not for others. > > To clarify- I think from birth I was afflicted by some sarpa yogas > (born into mars/ketu vimsh) BUT, JUPITER not only in this Karaka > Kendradi Graha Dasa , but also Jup Vim was what gave releif and > freedom from the pisacha curses. > Not only did Jup give spiritual awakening in a big way,initiation to > mantras, he brought a "guru" for a husband-what more can a spiritual > aspirant want? > Visti: Yes this is definitely a blessing, where the experience on the mind is also recieved as pure spiritual realisation. Would have been a very happy time. > So the pisacha curse was completely gone from 1984- > Also it is intersting to note that capricorn in the 8th(with lagna > lord Merc and Sun) is my "paka" lagna.In addition it is aspected by > jupiter,so i certainly did have a revolutionary change in my life. > > Visti: Curses themselves should be analysed from the Moola Dasa, or Lagna Kendradi Dasa, the Karaka Kendradi Dasa would be more acurate in determining the effects the curses have on the soul. > > It is interesting that you said Lord Shiva gave blessings- he also > is the guru of the spirits,is Lord Shiva then the one who > orchestrates the karmas delivered by the sarpa yogas? > There must be some connection there. > > Visti: No doubt you worshipped Lord Shiva in the past life, and in return you were given some powerful spiritual abilities. What you did with those abilities is what Shiva has come to remind you of, and put you on the right path. > > Also,can we make some other connection?- one of the other important > events at that time,other than getting married and getting full time > into spiritual life was having children(they also came during my Jup > maha dasa of KKGdasa)can we stretch the significations in that way- > that Jup is karaka of children? > > Visti: The Karaka Kendradi Dasa can show all events quite easily, as long as one keeps in mind the results of this Dasa. The Dasa is not attached to the body nor mind, but is attached to the lessons we learn and the souls who come into our lives to learn with us and fulfill our mutual karmas to each other. > > Please explain ("experiences of the soul")when we use this dasa > Visti: I will explain this in a future mail.. soon. > Thanks visti > With best wishes > Lakshmi devi > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > ----------------------- > > Dear Lakshmi, Namaste. > > Interesting story, let me bring light on some of your events. > > > > Ketu in Lagna and Mars having Graha Dristi on the same, causes > Pisacha Badhak of a specific kind, namely that of possesion! This > happens due to Ketu cutting of the head of the native, and leaving > room for such anger of the counterpart. This is why the evil > happened in Mars Antardasa showing the evil coming from associations > at the time. > > > > Now an important Dasa for spiritual realisations is Karaka > Kendradi Dasa, which shows the experiences of the soul, and ones > association with other souls. I will be talking about this in the > West Coast Conference in San Jose. > > > > Karaka Kendradi Graha Dasa (experiences of the soul): > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > Sat: 1955-01-15 (17:16:00) - 1969-01-15 (7:23:09) > > Moo: 1969-01-15 (7:23:09) - 1972-01-16 (1:49:03) > > Mer: 1972-01-16 (1:49:03) - 1981-01-15 (9:08:29) > > Sun: 1981-01-15 (9:08:29) - 1982-01-15 (15:24:05) > > Jup: 1982-01-15 (15:24:05) - 1992-01-16 (4:54:06) > > Ven: 1992-01-16 (4:54:06) - 2001-01-15 (12:24:58) > > Mar: 2001-01-15 (12:24:58) - 2007-01-16 (1:17:57) > > Ket: 2007-01-16 (1:17:57) - 2010-01-15 (19:48:11) > > Rah: 2010-01-15 (19:48:11) - 2027-01-16 (4:21:12) > > > > The Maha Dasa shows the experiences the soul recieves, and the > type of knowledge it recieves during this time. > > > > Between 1972-1981, Mercury Maha Dasa was running, so the analysis > of > > Mercuries placement will tell us more about this learning. > > > > Mercury is placed in the 8th house in Capricorn. Capricorn is the > sign of the Preta's or the dead spirits/ghosts, and with this being > the 8th house, this is sure to bring some past-karmic lessons to > light. > > > > Mercury is joined the Dharma Devata Sun, showing that the > blessings of Lord Shiva are there to guide the soul through this > knowledge. > > > > As you noted previously, Mercury is also joined Karakamsa with > malefics being in trines, showing the deep spiritual powers coming > to light. > > > > The Antaradasa's shows the souls who come into the persons life to > bring about the experiences indicated by the Mahadasa. > > > > Antardasa of Jupiter was running in the time period you mentioned. > > Jupiter is Chara Darakaraka, indicating a partner coming into your > life, and the events that unfold as a result of this partnership are > indicated by Jupiters lordship. Jupiter lords the 10th where Mars > sits, bringing the Pischak Badhak, aswell as the 7th where Kodanda > Rahu sits. These results have been explained. > > > > > > Now the time of spiritual initiation explained by you, happened in > the Karaka Kendradi Dasa of Jupiter. Jupiter is Guru Karaka, and > exalted in Cancer, showing a very high level of compassion being > learnt by the soul during this time. > > However due to Jupiters retrogression, there is a high level of > resitance. > > This resitance was finally broken by Bhratri Karaka and Guru > Devata - Venus, who is also mantresh, indicated the recieving of a > mantra/initiation. > > Hence in Jupiter Dasa (karaka of 5th and 9th) - Venus Antardasa > (5th lord and Gurudevata), you recieved initiation into the > Mahamantra, as well as a Siksha Guru. > > > > Note that Moon, Sun, Mercury and Jupiter are all in the quadrants > to the Chara Atmakaraka - Saturn. During their periods the soul > experiences life like a baby witnessing the world around them, and > not until after Jupiter Dasa did you reach "Spiritual Maturity". > With the advent of Venus Dasa, the soul began its real learning..! > > > > Venus Dasa ran from 1992-2001, and would have been very > spiritually uplifting due to Venus being Gurudevata, and the current > Mars Dasa is even better, as Mars is the ISHTA Devata, and will > confer deep deep spiritual knowledge. > > > > More on Karaka Kendradi Dasa to come..! > > > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna ------------------ Dear Partha, You can look at d-60 with any dasa, u just need the right reasons to. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - V.partha sarathy vedic astrology Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:28 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Re2: Käraka Kendradi Dasa visti Om Namah Shivayadear VistiThe calculations look similar to Moola dasa. If yes, then do we need to look at D-60.regardsparthaOm Tat Sat--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> -----------------------------> Dear Lakshmi,> See my answers to your comments in red.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > lakshmisyama > vedic astrology > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:26 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Käraka Kendradi Dasa (deb.. Rahu discussion reply to Sanjay)> > > Hare Krishna> Dear Visti-> Thank-you for your post and introduction to Karaka Kendradi Graha > Dasa-Im looking forward to your class this summer!> Few comments on your post> I found this interesting- The first Mahadasa is sat- is this because > it is my AK? In my chart Sat is conjoined the Moon which is in > itself is a combination for depression- but it gave me compassion > for others at a young age.> Visti: I will explain the calculations in the US, but yes the Dasa's start from the kendra to AK, in ur case AK itself.. this varries depending on who is eager to teach first.> The first Dasa of "Saturn the sorrowful" is exalted and joined Moon, hence your soul learnt the most giving and compassionate lessons. How to enjoy life was learnt very well during this time, and no doubt this would have taken its peak during Saturn-Mercury Dasa as mercury is your Matrikaraka. Keep in mind that the road to compassion is full of sorrows.. a happy person is usually happy for their own good, not for others.> > To clarify- I think from birth I was afflicted by some sarpa yogas> (born into mars/ketu vimsh) BUT, JUPITER not only in this Karaka > Kendradi Graha Dasa , but also Jup Vim was what gave releif and > freedom from the pisacha curses.> Not only did Jup give spiritual awakening in a big way,initiation to > mantras, he brought a "guru" for a husband-what more can a spiritual > aspirant want? > Visti: Yes this is definitely a blessing, where the experience on the mind is also recieved as pure spiritual realisation. Would have been a very happy time.> So the pisacha curse was completely gone from 1984-> Also it is intersting to note that capricorn in the 8th(with lagna > lord Merc and Sun) is my "paka" lagna.In addition it is aspected by > jupiter,so i certainly did have a revolutionary change in my life.> > Visti: Curses themselves should be analysed from the Moola Dasa, or Lagna Kendradi Dasa, the Karaka Kendradi Dasa would be more acurate in determining the effects the curses have on the soul.> > It is interesting that you said Lord Shiva gave blessings- he also > is the guru of the spirits,is Lord Shiva then the one who > orchestrates the karmas delivered by the sarpa yogas?> There must be some connection there.> > Visti: No doubt you worshipped Lord Shiva in the past life, and in return you were given some powerful spiritual abilities. What you did with those abilities is what Shiva has come to remind you of, and put you on the right path.> > Also,can we make some other connection?- one of the other important > events at that time,other than getting married and getting full time > into spiritual life was having children(they also came during my Jup > maha dasa of KKGdasa)can we stretch the significations in that way-> that Jup is karaka of children?> > Visti: The Karaka Kendradi Dasa can show all events quite easily, as long as one keeps in mind the results of this Dasa. The Dasa is not attached to the body nor mind, but is attached to the lessons we learn and the souls who come into our lives to learn with us and fulfill our mutual karmas to each other.> > Please explain ("experiences of the soul")when we use this dasa> Visti: I will explain this in a future mail.. soon.> Thanks visti> With best wishes> Lakshmi devi> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna> > -----------------------> > Dear Lakshmi, Namaste.> > Interesting story, let me bring light on some of your events.> > > > Ketu in Lagna and Mars having Graha Dristi on the same, causes > Pisacha Badhak of a specific kind, namely that of possesion! This > happens due to Ketu cutting of the head of the native, and leaving > room for such anger of the counterpart. This is why the evil > happened in Mars Antardasa showing the evil coming from associations > at the time.> > > > Now an important Dasa for spiritual realisations is Karaka > Kendradi Dasa, which shows the experiences of the soul, and ones > association with other souls. I will be talking about this in the > West Coast Conference in San Jose.> > > > Karaka Kendradi Graha Dasa (experiences of the soul):> > > > Maha Dasas:> > > > Sat: 1955-01-15 (17:16:00) - 1969-01-15 (7:23:09)> > Moo: 1969-01-15 (7:23:09) - 1972-01-16 (1:49:03)> > Mer: 1972-01-16 (1:49:03) - 1981-01-15 (9:08:29)> > Sun: 1981-01-15 (9:08:29) - 1982-01-15 (15:24:05)> > Jup: 1982-01-15 (15:24:05) - 1992-01-16 (4:54:06)> > Ven: 1992-01-16 (4:54:06) - 2001-01-15 (12:24:58)> > Mar: 2001-01-15 (12:24:58) - 2007-01-16 (1:17:57)> > Ket: 2007-01-16 (1:17:57) - 2010-01-15 (19:48:11)> > Rah: 2010-01-15 (19:48:11) - 2027-01-16 (4:21:12)> > > > The Maha Dasa shows the experiences the soul recieves, and the > type of knowledge it recieves during this time.> > > > Between 1972-1981, Mercury Maha Dasa was running, so the analysis > of > > Mercuries placement will tell us more about this learning.> > > > Mercury is placed in the 8th house in Capricorn. Capricorn is the > sign of the Preta's or the dead spirits/ghosts, and with this being > the 8th house, this is sure to bring some past-karmic lessons to > light. > > > > Mercury is joined the Dharma Devata Sun, showing that the > blessings of Lord Shiva are there to guide the soul through this > knowledge.> > > > As you noted previously, Mercury is also joined Karakamsa with > malefics being in trines, showing the deep spiritual powers coming > to light.> > > > The Antaradasa's shows the souls who come into the persons life to > bring about the experiences indicated by the Mahadasa.> > > > Antardasa of Jupiter was running in the time period you mentioned.> > Jupiter is Chara Darakaraka, indicating a partner coming into your > life, and the events that unfold as a result of this partnership are > indicated by Jupiters lordship. Jupiter lords the 10th where Mars > sits, bringing the Pischak Badhak, aswell as the 7th where Kodanda > Rahu sits. These results have been explained.> > > > > > Now the time of spiritual initiation explained by you, happened in > the Karaka Kendradi Dasa of Jupiter. Jupiter is Guru Karaka, and > exalted in Cancer, showing a very high level of compassion being > learnt by the soul during this time. > > However due to Jupiters retrogression, there is a high level of > resitance.> > This resitance was finally broken by Bhratri Karaka and Guru > Devata - Venus, who is also mantresh, indicated the recieving of a > mantra/initiation. > > Hence in Jupiter Dasa (karaka of 5th and 9th) - Venus Antardasa > (5th lord and Gurudevata), you recieved initiation into the > Mahamantra, as well as a Siksha Guru.> > > > Note that Moon, Sun, Mercury and Jupiter are all in the quadrants > to the Chara Atmakaraka - Saturn. During their periods the soul > experiences life like a baby witnessing the world around them, and > not until after Jupiter Dasa did you reach "Spiritual Maturity". > With the advent of Venus Dasa, the soul began its real learning..!> > > > Venus Dasa ran from 1992-2001, and would have been very > spiritually uplifting due to Venus being Gurudevata, and the current > Mars Dasa is even better, as Mars is the ISHTA Devata, and will > confer deep deep spiritual knowledge.> > > > More on Karaka Kendradi Dasa to come..!> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > .> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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