Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Namaste, Sade Sati is not always of 7 years and 6 months long, its all depends on motion of Saturn (slow, fast, direct and retrograde etc.) over 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal Moon. Though the aggregate average makes seven and half years. Thus it is called the Sade-Sati i.e. period of seven and half years. Now the question about whether the pivotal sign should either be Natal Moon or Lagna? But there are various opinion on it. e.g. In SA (system approach) transit is reckoned from natal lagna. Whereas some experts not only take Natal Moon but also consider Natal Lagna for delineating transit effects. Thus transit of Saturn behind, over and ahead of Lagna is assmused identical to Sade Sati. In my humble opinion, transit should be reckoned from Moon, Lagna and Sun as well *(if we want to judge 3-dimentional flow of cosmic energy)*. As without this trinity (Lagna=Body, Moon=Mind and Sun=Soul), no picture can be completed. Where the Transit from Natal Moon, yields general and apprent effects, i.e. What you feel? These results are very clear, and easily perceptible. Transit from Lagna shows results on physical plane, i.e. limited to your physical self and generally not perceptible by others instead they exist. While the Transit from Sun reveals inner and spiritual conditions effected by planets in gochar. The results from Sun are quite deeper and can not cast an impact on external pattern of life. The profundity of transitary effects are directly propotional to Ashtaka Varga (A.V). Thus without A.V. gochar can not be fully judge at all. Another important fearture is vedh and latta. Now, I come to the point i.e. Sade Sati. There are some rules (and some are my observations) regarding Sadi Sati and its effects. 1) If the Natal Moon is subjected to Kemadruma Yoga (formed when Moon is not flanked by any planet, excluding Sun and nodes) without cancellation then Sade-Sati yields adverse result. 2) The effect of Sade Sati is inversly proportional to strength of Saturn in natal chart. That is, if Saturn is strong in natal chart then Sade Sati can't hit native, otherwise vice-versa holds good. 3) If Moon is into sign of Venus, i.e. either in Taurus or Libra (because for Venusian signs Saturn becomes Yoga-Karaka) then Sade Sati would also not very harmful. 4) If Moon is enjoyed by Shubha Adi Yoga(flanked by natural benefics) or Shubha Dhurdhura Yoga (benefics in 6th, 7th and 8th) then also Sade Sati does not lead to meleficent. 5) If there is powerful planet in 10th from Moon in natal chart, then the 1st phase of Sade Sati (i.e. saturn's transit in 12th) cant be bad, similarly if there is strong benefic in 7th from Moon the 2nd phase of Sade Sati (i.e. in 1st) can not be bad, and if there there is strong supporting planet in 4th from Moon then the last phase of Sade Sati wont feel adverse. 6) The Sani-Paya (leg of saturn; Silver, Gold, Copper and Iron w.r.t beneficent effects respectively) are also seemed a parameter to alter the intensity of Sade Sati. 7) The rusult of Sade Sati is altered according to the strength of Natal Moon, if Moon is afflicted due to association of Rahu or Mars, combustion, or get lesser bindus in A.V. Because a weak Mind can't survive and/or fight in hostile environment. 8) Finally the Dasanath may change the intensity of Sade Sati, e.g. a powerful dasanath(specially strong yoga-karaka) curtails the bad effect. 9) Sade Sati does not hit elder peoples (as saturn is naturally eldest graha). In old age they generally brings forth diseases. 10) If first sade sati was bad then second will not so wrost. Regards IMRAN rkrangan <rkrangan > wrote: Om Gurave NamahOm Namo NarayanayaDear HirenI have just completed my sade sathi (phew!) so I can share with you some experiences relating to remedies. Sade Sathi is for a period of 7 years and 6 months.Praying to Lord Hanuman or Lord Sri Ayyappan or Lord Shaniswaran on all Saturdays will bring relief. Reciting Vishnu Sahasranamam, Sani stotrams, Rudram-Chamakam are all also good. One simple mantra "Om Namo Narayanaya" can also bring a lot of relief. In fact, one may not feel the impact of Sade Sathi by doing all these.Visiting Sabarimala Sri Dharmasastha's (Ayyappan) temple is also advised. Another remedy with which I had great relief was in offering black cloth (dhoti) to Lord Shaniswaran. Praying to Lord Shiva at his temple on Pradosham evening is yet another useful remedy. There is an exclusive temple for Lord Shaniswaran in Tamil Nadu by the name of Tirunallar, a visit to which will greatly reduce the effect of Sade Sathi.How much Sade Sathi will impact a native depends on placement of Saturn and other karakas in the natal chart and the current dasas also. There is no need to worry about Sade Sathi, if one can adhere to a discipline of remedial measures. It might sound very elaborate, but within a few days one will get into routine with them. The native will begin to enjoy life.Sade Sathi teaches some important lessons in life.I don't understand how Chandrasekar reckons Sade Sathi from Lagna. I was taught that it had to do with the 12th, 1st and 2nd from Moon.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Ranganvedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:> JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > Dear Hiren,> > Namaste.> > Sadesati is not a yoga, but a transit of Saturn over the 12th from Natal Moon, the Moon sign itself and the 2nd from it. It may take around 5 or 7.5 years depending on retrogrades of Saturn. Sanjayji gives remedies in his VRA book. The best remedy is to chant Vishnu Sahasranaaama every day during this period. It is downloadable from the Internet I'm sure if you make a search.> > Yours,> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> gauranga@b...> Jyotish Remedies:> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > ----- Original Message ----- > hiren desai > To: JyotishVidya ; Vedic Astrology ; gjlist ; vedic astrology > Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:05 AM> [vedic astrology] QUERY ON SADESATI YOGA> > > SIR,> > I OFTEN READ ABOUT SADE SATI YOGA ON THIS SITE.FOR HOW LONG THIS SADESATI YOGA LASTS. 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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Muhammad, Namaste. Now the question about whether the pivotal sign should either be Natal Moon or Lagna? But there are various opinion on it. e.g. In SA (system approach) transit is reckoned from natal lagna. Whereas some experts not only take Natal Moon but also consider Natal Lagna for delineating transit effects. Thus transit of Saturn behind, over and ahead of Lagna is assmused identical to Sade Sati. Of course you could take so, but usually the suffering will be felt more if transit is over the Moon, because mental suffering is stronger than physical one. If you calculate from lagna, then the problematic houses ara 1st, 8th and 10th. This transit is called Kantaka Sani, and it will rather indicate factual obstacles and difficulties, than mental unhappiness. The efect is different. Of course on the whole, Saturn's transit over any house is considered evil to thet house, unless Saturn is yoga Karaka in Jataka chart. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 In my humble opinion, transit should be reckoned from Moon, Lagna and Sun as well *(if we want to judge 3-dimentional flow of cosmic energy)*. As without this trinity (Lagna=Body, Moon=Mind and Sun=Soul), no picture can be completed. Where the Transit from Natal Moon, yields general and apprent effects, i.e. What you feel? These results are very clear, and easily perceptible. Transit from Lagna shows results on physical plane, i.e. limited to your physical self and generally not perceptible by others instead they exist. While the Transit from Sun reveals inner and spiritual conditions effected by planets in gochar. The results from Sun are quite deeper and can not cast an impact on external pattern of life. The profundity of transitary effects are directly propotional to Ashtaka Varga (A.V). Thus without A.V. gochar can not be fully judge at all. Another important fearture is vedh and latta. Now, I come to the point i.e. Sade Sati. There are some rules (and some are my observations) regarding Sadi Sati and its effects. 1) If the Natal Moon is subjected to Kemadruma Yoga (formed when Moon is not flanked by any planet, excluding Sun and nodes) without cancellation then Sade-Sati yields adverse result. 2) The effect of Sade Sati is inversly proportional to strength of Saturn in natal chart. That is, if Saturn is strong in natal chart then Sade Sati can't hit native, otherwise vice-versa holds good. 3) If Moon is into sign of Venus, i.e. either in Taurus or Libra (because for Venusian signs Saturn becomes Yoga-Karaka) then Sade Sati would also not very harmful. 4) If Moon is enjoyed by Shubha Adi Yoga(flanked by natural benefics) or Shubha Dhurdhura Yoga (benefics in 6th, 7th and 8th) then also Sade Sati does not lead to meleficent. 5) If there is powerful planet in 10th from Moon in natal chart, then the 1st phase of Sade Sati (i.e. saturn's transit in 12th) cant be bad, similarly if there is strong benefic in 7th from Moon the 2nd phase of Sade Sati (i.e. in 1st) can not be bad, and if there there is strong supporting planet in 4th from Moon then the last phase of Sade Sati wont feel adverse. 6) The Sani-Paya (leg of saturn; Silver, Gold, Copper and Iron w.r.t beneficent effects respectively) are also seemed a parameter to alter the intensity of Sade Sati. 7) The rusult of Sade Sati is altered according to the strength of Natal Moon, if Moon is afflicted due to association of Rahu or Mars, combustion, or get lesser bindus in A.V. Because a weak Mind can't survive and/or fight in hostile environment. 8) Finally the Dasanath may change the intensity of Sade Sati, e.g. a powerful dasanath(specially strong yoga-karaka) curtails the bad effect. 9) Sade Sati does not hit elder peoples (as saturn is naturally eldest graha). In old age they generally brings forth diseases. 10) If first sade sati was bad then second will not so wrost. Regards IMRAN rkrangan <rkrangan > wrote: Om Gurave NamahOm Namo NarayanayaDear HirenI have just completed my sade sathi (phew!) so I can share with you some experiences relating to remedies. Sade Sathi is for a period of 7 years and 6 months.Praying to Lord Hanuman or Lord Sri Ayyappan or Lord Shaniswaran on all Saturdays will bring relief. Reciting Vishnu Sahasranamam, Sani stotrams, Rudram-Chamakam are all also good. One simple mantra "Om Namo Narayanaya" can also bring a lot of relief. In fact, one may not feel the impact of Sade Sathi by doing all these.Visiting Sabarimala Sri Dharmasastha's (Ayyappan) temple is also advised. Another remedy with which I had great relief was in offering black cloth (dhoti) to Lord Shaniswaran. Praying to Lord Shiva at his temple on Pradosham evening is yet another useful remedy. There is an exclusive temple for Lord Shaniswaran in Tamil Nadu by the name of Tirunallar, a visit to which will greatly reduce the effect of Sade Sathi.How much Sade Sathi will impact a native depends on placement of Saturn and other karakas in the natal chart and the current dasas also. There is no need to worry about Sade Sathi, if one can adhere to a discipline of remedial measures. It might sound very elaborate, but within a few days one will get into routine with them. The native will begin to enjoy life.Sade Sathi teaches some important lessons in life.I don't understand how Chandrasekar reckons Sade Sathi from Lagna. I was taught that it had to do with the 12th, 1st and 2nd from Moon.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Rangan--- In vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:> JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > Dear Hiren,> > Namaste.> > Sadesati is not a yoga, but a transit of Saturn over the 12th from Natal Moon, the Moon sign itself and the 2nd from it. It may take around 5 or 7.5 years depending on retrogrades of Saturn. Sanjayji gives remedies in his VRA book. The best remedy is to chant Vishnu Sahasranaaama every day during this period. It is downloadable from the Internet I'm sure if you make a search.> > Yours,> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> gauranga@b...> Jyotish Remedies:> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > - > hiren desai > JyotishVidya ; Vedic Astrology ; gjlist ; vedic astrology > Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:05 AM> [vedic astrology] QUERY ON SADESATI YOGA> > > SIR,> > I OFTEN READ ABOUT SADE SATI YOGA ON THIS SITE.FOR HOW LONG THIS SADESATI YOGA LASTS. AT WHAT AGE DOES IT GET NEUTRALISE.> > ANY BENEFIC YOG DOES IT FORMS AFTER BREAKAGE OR AFTER IT NEUTRALISE.> > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." 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