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Namaste,

Few weeks ago, a comperherehensive debate on retrogression was found on this

forum in which lot of varied concpet of retrogression results come into light.

Retregression is an astronomical phenomena among one of the eight kind of

planetary motion as stated by "Surya Siddhanata". Many of the old astrological

treatise holds that a vikri graha attains additional strength so it should

treat among strong planets. Spcially shubha graha yields beneficial results

provided they are retrograde.

Another specific point of consideration is the aspects casted by a retrograde

planet, it is believed that a retrograte planet cast its aspects reverse like

nodes. If we accecpt this theory then we should treat the aspects of Mars and

Saturn in different prospective and will have to include all five grahas if a

complete set(100%, 75%, 50%, 25% drishti) is required. For example if Saturn is

retrograte in 4th house then 2nd and 7th houses will be considered under full

aspect of Saturn (which may cause delay in marriage or etc). Similarly if Mars

is retrograte is in 1st house then its full aspect is on 10th and 6th (beside

7th house) instead of 4th and 8th house.

A more logical illustration of retrograte grahas is assumed about the placement

of planets in different houses. A retrograde planet has a desire to move prior

house so it will definetely give the impact of house behind the current

occurance. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in 3rd house then it should

yield the results of 2nd house, (i.e. wealth, sweet speech, good early

education, etc) due to its conditional nature of "tends to prior house".

But during chart analysis, more quries arise. e.g. a retrogate planet if occur

in its own sign, in inmical sign, in its debilitation sign or its exaltation

sign. Rationally retrogression of Venus in Libra, Virgo and Pisces can not be

identical at all. Some classical work says that a graha in neech rashi if

retrograd is assume like uccha, and a graha in uccha rashi if retrograde is

consider neech. Hence if Jupiter retrogrades in Cancer then it is not

beneficial as it should be, but retrogression in Capricorn yields good results

like Jupiter in Cancer.

But what should be results if a graha retrogades in own or fall sign? Is

retrogression of Mars in Aris is equals to retrogression in Libra?

Another feature is to consider the placement with respect to benefic and malefic

nature of planets itself. It is some time believe that a natural melefic in bad

houses (6,8,12) is good provided it is retrograde. Similarly a retrograde

natural benefic in good houses (trikona and kendra) is beneficial. But this

notion contravenes with above mentioned theory of "tends to prior house".

The deep rooted karm leads to Retrogression in natal chart wether good or bad. I

am looking for reponse of learned list members regarding retrogrssion of grahas

with respect to houses and signs.

Regards

M.Imran

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Muhammad,

I think we should view retrograde planet and its house/Rasi placement on

different planes.Retrograde planet has the capacity to give results as if

exalted, it is said.Having ascertained its strength the results it would yield

would depend on his placement in different Rasis/houses.

I think what what I mean to convey would be clear if you observe the results of

Exalted Jupiter in 5th house.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Friday, January 17, 2003 12:52 PM

[vedic astrology] Retrogression in own, exaltation and debilitation sign

Dear List,

Namaste,

Few weeks ago, a comperherehensive debate on retrogression was found on this

forum in which lot of varied concpet of retrogression results come into light.

Retregression is an astronomical phenomena among one of the eight kind of

planetary motion as stated by "Surya Siddhanata". Many of the old astrological

treatise holds that a vikri graha attains additional strength so it should

treat among strong planets. Spcially shubha graha yields beneficial results

provided they are retrograde.

Another specific point of consideration is the aspects casted by a retrograde

planet, it is believed that a retrograte planet cast its aspects reverse like

nodes. If we accecpt this theory then we should treat the aspects of Mars and

Saturn in different prospective and will have to include all five grahas if a

complete set(100%, 75%, 50%, 25% drishti) is required. For example if Saturn is

retrograte in 4th house then 2nd and 7th houses will be considered under full

aspect of Saturn (which may cause delay in marriage or etc). Similarly if Mars

is retrograte is in 1st house then its full aspect is on 10th and 6th (beside

7th house) instead of 4th and 8th house.

A more logical illustration of retrograte grahas is assumed about the placement

of planets in different houses. A retrograde planet has a desire to move prior

house so it will definetely give the impact of house behind the current

occurance. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in 3rd house then it should

yield the results of 2nd house, (i.e. wealth, sweet speech, good early

education, etc) due to its conditional nature of "tends to prior house".

But during chart analysis, more quries arise. e.g. a retrogate planet if occur

in its own sign, in inmical sign, in its debilitation sign or its exaltation

sign. Rationally retrogression of Venus in Libra, Virgo and Pisces can not be

identical at all. Some classical work says that a graha in neech rashi if

retrograd is assume like uccha, and a graha in uccha rashi if retrograde is

consider neech. Hence if Jupiter retrogrades in Cancer then it is not

beneficial as it should be, but retrogression in Capricorn yields good results

like Jupiter in Cancer.

But what should be results if a graha retrogades in own or fall sign? Is

retrogression of Mars in Aris is equals to retrogression in Libra?

Another feature is to consider the placement with respect to benefic and malefic

nature of planets itself. It is some time believe that a natural melefic in bad

houses (6,8,12) is good provided it is retrograde. Similarly a retrograde

natural benefic in good houses (trikona and kendra) is beneficial. But this

notion contravenes with above mentioned theory of "tends to prior house".

The deep rooted karm leads to Retrogression in natal chart wether good or bad. I

am looking for reponse of learned list members regarding retrogrssion of grahas

with respect to houses and signs.

Regards

M.Imran

 

 

 

 

 

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Regards Imran. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Muhammad,

I think we should view retrograde planet and its house/Rasi placement on

different planes.Retrograde planet has the capacity to give results as if

exalted, it is said.Having ascertained its strength the results it would yield

would depend on his placement in different Rasis/houses.

I think what what I mean to convey would be clear if you observe the results of

Exalted Jupiter in 5th house.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Friday, January 17, 2003 12:52 PM

[vedic astrology] Retrogression in own, exaltation and debilitation sign

Dear List,

Namaste,

Few weeks ago, a comperherehensive debate on retrogression was found on this

forum in which lot of varied concpet of retrogression results come into light.

Retregression is an astronomical phenomena among one of the eight kind of

planetary motion as stated by "Surya Siddhanata". Many of the old astrological

treatise holds that a vikri graha attains additional strength so it should

treat among strong planets. Spcially shubha graha yields beneficial results

provided they are retrograde.

Another specific point of consideration is the aspects casted by a retrograde

planet, it is believed that a retrograte planet cast its aspects reverse like

nodes. If we accecpt this theory then we should treat the aspects of Mars and

Saturn in different prospective and will have to include all five grahas if a

complete set(100%, 75%, 50%, 25% drishti) is required. For example if Saturn is

retrograte in 4th house then 2nd and 7th houses will be considered under full

aspect of Saturn (which may cause delay in marriage or etc). Similarly if Mars

is retrograte is in 1st house then its full aspect is on 10th and 6th (beside

7th house) instead of 4th and 8th house.

A more logical illustration of retrograte grahas is assumed about the placement

of planets in different houses. A retrograde planet has a desire to move prior

house so it will definetely give the impact of house behind the current

occurance. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in 3rd house then it should

yield the results of 2nd house, (i.e. wealth, sweet speech, good early

education, etc) due to its conditional nature of "tends to prior house".

But during chart analysis, more quries arise. e.g. a retrogate planet if occur

in its own sign, in inmical sign, in its debilitation sign or its exaltation

sign. Rationally retrogression of Venus in Libra, Virgo and Pisces can not be

identical at all. Some classical work says that a graha in neech rashi if

retrograd is assume like uccha, and a graha in uccha rashi if retrograde is

consider neech. Hence if Jupiter retrogrades in Cancer then it is not

beneficial as it should be, but retrogression in Capricorn yields good results

like Jupiter in Cancer.

But what should be results if a graha retrogades in own or fall sign? Is

retrogression of Mars in Aris is equals to retrogression in Libra?

Another feature is to consider the placement with respect to benefic and malefic

nature of planets itself. It is some time believe that a natural melefic in bad

houses (6,8,12) is good provided it is retrograde. Similarly a retrograde

natural benefic in good houses (trikona and kendra) is beneficial. But this

notion contravenes with above mentioned theory of "tends to prior house".

The deep rooted karm leads to Retrogression in natal chart wether good or bad. I

am looking for reponse of learned list members regarding retrogrssion of grahas

with respect to houses and signs.

Regards

M.Imran

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Muhammad,

To a beginner in astrology , like me Retrograde Exalted Jupiter would be as

strong as Direct Jupiter in exaltation sign. What is said is that Retrograde

planet gives results"as If in exaltation".

Knowledgeable astrologers may like to comment.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:28 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Retrogression in own, exaltation and debilitation sign

Dear Chandrashekhar and list, Its mean a retrograde graha does not change its

capacity to yield phala but nature only? and the expected result would be

according to good or bad placement in house/rashi !!! Now I take the example

you have alluded, let an exalted Jupiter is in fifth house, at this occasion

wether a retrograde Jupiter is strong or direct Jupiter? And what about Jupiter

in Capricorn if retrograde. In practice a "retrograde Venus in Pisces" is equals

to "direct Venus in Pisces", provided in same house? Waiting for the response.

Regards Imran. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Muhammad,

I think we should view retrograde planet and its house/Rasi placement on

different planes.Retrograde planet has the capacity to give results as if

exalted, it is said.Having ascertained its strength the results it would yield

would depend on his placement in different Rasis/houses.

I think what what I mean to convey would be clear if you observe the results of

Exalted Jupiter in 5th house.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Friday, January 17, 2003 12:52 PM

[vedic astrology] Retrogression in own, exaltation and debilitation sign

Dear List,

Namaste,

Few weeks ago, a comperherehensive debate on retrogression was found on this

forum in which lot of varied concpet of retrogression results come into light.

Retregression is an astronomical phenomena among one of the eight kind of

planetary motion as stated by "Surya Siddhanata". Many of the old astrological

treatise holds that a vikri graha attains additional strength so it should

treat among strong planets. Spcially shubha graha yields beneficial results

provided they are retrograde.

Another specific point of consideration is the aspects casted by a retrograde

planet, it is believed that a retrograte planet cast its aspects reverse like

nodes. If we accecpt this theory then we should treat the aspects of Mars and

Saturn in different prospective and will have to include all five grahas if a

complete set(100%, 75%, 50%, 25% drishti) is required. For example if Saturn is

retrograte in 4th house then 2nd and 7th houses will be considered under full

aspect of Saturn (which may cause delay in marriage or etc). Similarly if Mars

is retrograte is in 1st house then its full aspect is on 10th and 6th (beside

7th house) instead of 4th and 8th house.

A more logical illustration of retrograte grahas is assumed about the placement

of planets in different houses. A retrograde planet has a desire to move prior

house so it will definetely give the impact of house behind the current

occurance. For example if Jupiter is retrograde in 3rd house then it should

yield the results of 2nd house, (i.e. wealth, sweet speech, good early

education, etc) due to its conditional nature of "tends to prior house".

But during chart analysis, more quries arise. e.g. a retrogate planet if occur

in its own sign, in inmical sign, in its debilitation sign or its exaltation

sign. Rationally retrogression of Venus in Libra, Virgo and Pisces can not be

identical at all. Some classical work says that a graha in neech rashi if

retrograd is assume like uccha, and a graha in uccha rashi if retrograde is

consider neech. Hence if Jupiter retrogrades in Cancer then it is not

beneficial as it should be, but retrogression in Capricorn yields good results

like Jupiter in Cancer.

But what should be results if a graha retrogades in own or fall sign? Is

retrogression of Mars in Aris is equals to retrogression in Libra?

Another feature is to consider the placement with respect to benefic and malefic

nature of planets itself. It is some time believe that a natural melefic in bad

houses (6,8,12) is good provided it is retrograde. Similarly a retrograde

natural benefic in good houses (trikona and kendra) is beneficial. But this

notion contravenes with above mentioned theory of "tends to prior house".

The deep rooted karm leads to Retrogression in natal chart wether good or bad. I

am looking for reponse of learned list members regarding retrogrssion of grahas

with respect to houses and signs.

Regards

M.Imran

 

 

 

 

 

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shine on us .......

 

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