Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 So fat people should remember to visit a professional astrologer on a regular basis, and pay fee to get advice, in addition to their doctor appointments. OK...Got it. vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> wrote: > Obesity and The Nodes > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 > > It has been recently reported that obesity, being > grossly overweight, is fast becoming the leading > ailment/illness in America. More people in the USA are > overweight today than at any other time in its > history. This especially extends to children and > women, some two thirds of whom are overweight. > > 31% of all people in America are obese. > > Studies have shown that being obese in early adulthood > can reduce one's lifespan, up to 20 years in some > cases! And then, there is all of the side-issues that > surround this: the lawsuits with airline companies and > so on over inadequate accommodations; the continuing > ridicule over image as it relates to larger people, > and more. > > Americans enjoy more food today, and have more access > to it than at any other time in Human History. In > addition, more Americans enjoy(?) a leisure lifestyle, > with exercise dropping below minimum levels. > Government agencies now promote "verb" campaigns in an > effort to stave adolescent obesity. > > Americans are, without a doubt, the fattest people in > the World. > > All of this occurs, the study of this condition, this > state of affairs, under the transit of the Nodes, Rahu > and Ketu, in their exaltation Signs of Taurus and > Scorpio. These two Shadowy Planets can shed mush light > on this situation. The following story about them is > illuminating. > > The Nodes, Rahu the North Node and Ketu the South > Node, were at one time a singular being, a Rakshasha, > or serpent-demon. This being was able to get into a > grand party that the rest of Planets were having, many > moons ago. At this party, which was hosted by Lord > Vishnu, the Planets had gathered around a dinner > table, and Lord Vishnu passed around a potion called > amrita, which granted immortality to whomever drank > it. The demon, having the ability to don many > disguises, got a seat at the table in this manner. > > Just when the demon's turn to drink the potion came, > his ruse was discovered by the Sun and Moon, and they > alerted Vishnu to the interloper. Vishnu grabbed his > discus and threw it at the demon, just as he was > drinking the potion; the discus severed the being at > the neck, and Rahu and Ketu was born. > > While both Nodes represent obsessions in general, the > key planet to lookout for here is Rahu, for it was he > that was so eager to get hold of the amrita; Ketu, the > lower half, wanted so badly to die and to leave this > plane of existence, whereas, Rahu wants to experience > as much carnality as possible. Therefore, from this > story, we can see the Nodes connections to compulsions > and obsessions overall, as well as its links to drugs > (amrita), suicide (the nature of Ketu), and excessive > materiality (money, food, sex; "bling-bling", etc), > foreigners (other races), outcastes and so on. > The Nodes, and in particular Rahu, is exalted in > Taurus, the sign associated with Venus, the planet of > sensual pleasures like eating. Rahu tends to expand > whatever it touches, and in association with Venus, > Rahu can certainly suggest potential for weight > problems. > > This same condition can be seen when Rahu aspects or > resides in the 2nd house as well; if one of the "fat" > planets also comes into play, the potential for > obesity is that much more heightened. > > As an example of the ways in which this can play > itself, we'll look at the horoscope of Oprah Winfrey, > born Jan 29, 1954, at 7:51pm in Kosciusko, MS, > according to the Clifford Data Compendium, found on > the Solarfire program. This chart, if correct, > reflects in so many ways Oprah's many and epic battles > with her weight. Note how Rahu and Venus are both in > the 6th house; in a Vedic chart, the 6th house is one > of battles and enemies. Her Sun, which is also her > Ascendant Lord, is also in the 6th house, along with > Mercury, which is the 2nd lord of food and the mouth. > > Now, several things to consider here: Venus is > severely combust by the Sun, AND the Sun and Venus are > enemies. This combines both an inimical relationship > between Oprah herself (Sun) and the food choices she > makes (Venus), as well as the types of food that she > is most likely to consume (Venus being weakened, both > by association, combustion and house placement, the > 6th all contribute to her eating foods that have > little to any nutritional value). Note how Rahu > aspects the 2nd house, and its association with 2nd > lord Mercury makes things that much more problematic. > > Vedic Astrology has long made a tradition of looking > at the horoscope from a myriad points of view, in > particular from the vantage point of the Chandra > Lagna, or Moon-as-Ascendant. If we do this here with > Oprah, we see that she has the full and mutual aspect > of Jupiter on her Moon (and close orb-wise as well; > within about 5 degrees); note also that Jupiter is the > 2nd lord from the Moon. Now, note again how Rahu > aspects Jupiter, along with the afore-mentioned > conditions of Rahu on Oprah's 2nd house. In viewing > the horoscope in multiple ways then, we can determine > exactly to what extent a given situation will likely > be manifest in a person's life. Here, in the case of > Oprah, as it relates to her overweight issues (and, we > can say, so many other things about her life; more on > that later), the case is iron-tight. > > The Dasa of Rahu has been in operation from 1991 and > will end in the year 2009; since the time it began, > Oprah has been on the weight and diet roller coaster. > At present, the sub period of Venus is running in the > major period of Rahu; it has been reported that Oprah > has yet again engaged the services of a trainer and > has gone and yet another diet, exceeding 300 lbs in > weight. In the planetary scheme of things, Venus and > Rahu are friends. > > With the follow-up Dasa of Jupiter to begin in 2009, > we can be reasonably sure that Oprah will battle with > her weight for the balance of her life; Jupiter being > one of the "fat" planets following on the dasa of such > an overwhelming planet like Rahu, is no easy feat to > manage. > Just some thoughts. > > Salaam, > Mu > > ===== > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Dear Mumin Bey, I have a feeling that "real" planets and rasis have more to indicate about obesity than shadow planets of rahu and ketu. I tested your hypothesis on my chart and it doesnt hold up. In my observations, the effect of Jupiter, and rasis such as Pisces, Sg, and Cancer have more to do in indicating obesity than nodes. regards, -Siva. vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> wrote: > Obesity and The Nodes > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 > > It has been recently reported that obesity, being > grossly overweight, is fast becoming the leading > ailment/illness in America. More people in the USA are > overweight today than at any other time in its > history. This especially extends to children and > women, some two thirds of whom are overweight. > > 31% of all people in America are obese. > > Studies have shown that being obese in early adulthood > can reduce one's lifespan, up to 20 years in some > cases! And then, there is all of the side-issues that > surround this: the lawsuits with airline companies and > so on over inadequate accommodations; the continuing > ridicule over image as it relates to larger people, > and more. > > Americans enjoy more food today, and have more access > to it than at any other time in Human History. In > addition, more Americans enjoy(?) a leisure lifestyle, > with exercise dropping below minimum levels. > Government agencies now promote "verb" campaigns in an > effort to stave adolescent obesity. > > Americans are, without a doubt, the fattest people in > the World. > > All of this occurs, the study of this condition, this > state of affairs, under the transit of the Nodes, Rahu > and Ketu, in their exaltation Signs of Taurus and > Scorpio. These two Shadowy Planets can shed mush light > on this situation. The following story about them is > illuminating. > > The Nodes, Rahu the North Node and Ketu the South > Node, were at one time a singular being, a Rakshasha, > or serpent-demon. This being was able to get into a > grand party that the rest of Planets were having, many > moons ago. At this party, which was hosted by Lord > Vishnu, the Planets had gathered around a dinner > table, and Lord Vishnu passed around a potion called > amrita, which granted immortality to whomever drank > it. The demon, having the ability to don many > disguises, got a seat at the table in this manner. > > Just when the demon's turn to drink the potion came, > his ruse was discovered by the Sun and Moon, and they > alerted Vishnu to the interloper. Vishnu grabbed his > discus and threw it at the demon, just as he was > drinking the potion; the discus severed the being at > the neck, and Rahu and Ketu was born. > > While both Nodes represent obsessions in general, the > key planet to lookout for here is Rahu, for it was he > that was so eager to get hold of the amrita; Ketu, the > lower half, wanted so badly to die and to leave this > plane of existence, whereas, Rahu wants to experience > as much carnality as possible. Therefore, from this > story, we can see the Nodes connections to compulsions > and obsessions overall, as well as its links to drugs > (amrita), suicide (the nature of Ketu), and excessive > materiality (money, food, sex; "bling-bling", etc), > foreigners (other races), outcastes and so on. > The Nodes, and in particular Rahu, is exalted in > Taurus, the sign associated with Venus, the planet of > sensual pleasures like eating. Rahu tends to expand > whatever it touches, and in association with Venus, > Rahu can certainly suggest potential for weight > problems. > > This same condition can be seen when Rahu aspects or > resides in the 2nd house as well; if one of the "fat" > planets also comes into play, the potential for > obesity is that much more heightened. > > As an example of the ways in which this can play > itself, we'll look at the horoscope of Oprah Winfrey, > born Jan 29, 1954, at 7:51pm in Kosciusko, MS, > according to the Clifford Data Compendium, found on > the Solarfire program. This chart, if correct, > reflects in so many ways Oprah's many and epic battles > with her weight. Note how Rahu and Venus are both in > the 6th house; in a Vedic chart, the 6th house is one > of battles and enemies. Her Sun, which is also her > Ascendant Lord, is also in the 6th house, along with > Mercury, which is the 2nd lord of food and the mouth. > > Now, several things to consider here: Venus is > severely combust by the Sun, AND the Sun and Venus are > enemies. This combines both an inimical relationship > between Oprah herself (Sun) and the food choices she > makes (Venus), as well as the types of food that she > is most likely to consume (Venus being weakened, both > by association, combustion and house placement, the > 6th all contribute to her eating foods that have > little to any nutritional value). Note how Rahu > aspects the 2nd house, and its association with 2nd > lord Mercury makes things that much more problematic. > > Vedic Astrology has long made a tradition of looking > at the horoscope from a myriad points of view, in > particular from the vantage point of the Chandra > Lagna, or Moon-as-Ascendant. If we do this here with > Oprah, we see that she has the full and mutual aspect > of Jupiter on her Moon (and close orb-wise as well; > within about 5 degrees); note also that Jupiter is the > 2nd lord from the Moon. Now, note again how Rahu > aspects Jupiter, along with the afore-mentioned > conditions of Rahu on Oprah's 2nd house. In viewing > the horoscope in multiple ways then, we can determine > exactly to what extent a given situation will likely > be manifest in a person's life. Here, in the case of > Oprah, as it relates to her overweight issues (and, we > can say, so many other things about her life; more on > that later), the case is iron-tight. > > The Dasa of Rahu has been in operation from 1991 and > will end in the year 2009; since the time it began, > Oprah has been on the weight and diet roller coaster. > At present, the sub period of Venus is running in the > major period of Rahu; it has been reported that Oprah > has yet again engaged the services of a trainer and > has gone and yet another diet, exceeding 300 lbs in > weight. In the planetary scheme of things, Venus and > Rahu are friends. > > With the follow-up Dasa of Jupiter to begin in 2009, > we can be reasonably sure that Oprah will battle with > her weight for the balance of her life; Jupiter being > one of the "fat" planets following on the dasa of such > an overwhelming planet like Rahu, is no easy feat to > manage. > Just some thoughts. > > Salaam, > Mu > > ===== > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > mumin_bey > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499@p...; Cell phone: 267-978-2812 > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum-@t... > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 Your niece's case may have some other factors other than rahu for obesity. One or two cases dont make a rule!!! I have a friend who is very fit and atheletic (not an iota of body fat - pumps iron every day) and he has rahu in lagna in Sc. -Siva. vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a niece (10) with rahu in the ascendant. I can confirm the > association with obesity, and also with extreme restlessness in behaviour at > times. She is the only family member who has had this problem. Another > family member with rahu in the ascendant has been of a very deceptive > character, but as exalted sun is also in the ascendant, the obesity did not > show up. > > Regards, > > Nimmi > > - > <schinnas> > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:28 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Obesity and The Nodes > > > > > > Dear Mumin Bey, > > I have a feeling that "real" planets and rasis have more to > > indicate about obesity than shadow planets of rahu and ketu. > > > > I tested your hypothesis on my chart and it doesnt hold up. In my > > observations, the effect of Jupiter, and rasis such as Pisces, Sg, > > and Cancer have more to do in indicating obesity than nodes. > > > > regards, > > -Siva. > > > > vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> > > wrote: > > > Obesity and The Nodes > > > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 > > > > > > It has been recently reported that obesity, being > > > grossly overweight, is fast becoming the leading > > > ailment/illness in America. More people in the USA are > > > overweight today than at any other time in its > > > history. This especially extends to children and > > > women, some two thirds of whom are overweight. > > > > > > 31% of all people in America are obese. > > > > > > Studies have shown that being obese in early adulthood > > > can reduce one's lifespan, up to 20 years in some > > > cases! And then, there is all of the side-issues that > > > surround this: the lawsuits with airline companies and > > > so on over inadequate accommodations; the continuing > > > ridicule over image as it relates to larger people, > > > and more. > > > > > > Americans enjoy more food today, and have more access > > > to it than at any other time in Human History. In > > > addition, more Americans enjoy(?) a leisure lifestyle, > > > with exercise dropping below minimum levels. > > > Government agencies now promote "verb" campaigns in an > > > effort to stave adolescent obesity. > > > > > > Americans are, without a doubt, the fattest people in > > > the World. > > > > > > All of this occurs, the study of this condition, this > > > state of affairs, under the transit of the Nodes, Rahu > > > and Ketu, in their exaltation Signs of Taurus and > > > Scorpio. These two Shadowy Planets can shed mush light > > > on this situation. The following story about them is > > > illuminating. > > > > > > The Nodes, Rahu the North Node and Ketu the South > > > Node, were at one time a singular being, a Rakshasha, > > > or serpent-demon. This being was able to get into a > > > grand party that the rest of Planets were having, many > > > moons ago. At this party, which was hosted by Lord > > > Vishnu, the Planets had gathered around a dinner > > > table, and Lord Vishnu passed around a potion called > > > amrita, which granted immortality to whomever drank > > > it. The demon, having the ability to don many > > > disguises, got a seat at the table in this manner. > > > > > > Just when the demon's turn to drink the potion came, > > > his ruse was discovered by the Sun and Moon, and they > > > alerted Vishnu to the interloper. Vishnu grabbed his > > > discus and threw it at the demon, just as he was > > > drinking the potion; the discus severed the being at > > > the neck, and Rahu and Ketu was born. > > > > > > While both Nodes represent obsessions in general, the > > > key planet to lookout for here is Rahu, for it was he > > > that was so eager to get hold of the amrita; Ketu, the > > > lower half, wanted so badly to die and to leave this > > > plane of existence, whereas, Rahu wants to experience > > > as much carnality as possible. Therefore, from this > > > story, we can see the Nodes connections to compulsions > > > and obsessions overall, as well as its links to drugs > > > (amrita), suicide (the nature of Ketu), and excessive > > > materiality (money, food, sex; "bling-bling", etc), > > > foreigners (other races), outcastes and so on. > > > The Nodes, and in particular Rahu, is exalted in > > > Taurus, the sign associated with Venus, the planet of > > > sensual pleasures like eating. Rahu tends to expand > > > whatever it touches, and in association with Venus, > > > Rahu can certainly suggest potential for weight > > > problems. > > > > > > This same condition can be seen when Rahu aspects or > > > resides in the 2nd house as well; if one of the "fat" > > > planets also comes into play, the potential for > > > obesity is that much more heightened. > > > > > > As an example of the ways in which this can play > > > itself, we'll look at the horoscope of Oprah Winfrey, > > > born Jan 29, 1954, at 7:51pm in Kosciusko, MS, > > > according to the Clifford Data Compendium, found on > > > the Solarfire program. This chart, if correct, > > > reflects in so many ways Oprah's many and epic battles > > > with her weight. Note how Rahu and Venus are both in > > > the 6th house; in a Vedic chart, the 6th house is one > > > of battles and enemies. Her Sun, which is also her > > > Ascendant Lord, is also in the 6th house, along with > > > Mercury, which is the 2nd lord of food and the mouth. > > > > > > Now, several things to consider here: Venus is > > > severely combust by the Sun, AND the Sun and Venus are > > > enemies. This combines both an inimical relationship > > > between Oprah herself (Sun) and the food choices she > > > makes (Venus), as well as the types of food that she > > > is most likely to consume (Venus being weakened, both > > > by association, combustion and house placement, the > > > 6th all contribute to her eating foods that have > > > little to any nutritional value). Note how Rahu > > > aspects the 2nd house, and its association with 2nd > > > lord Mercury makes things that much more problematic. > > > > > > Vedic Astrology has long made a tradition of looking > > > at the horoscope from a myriad points of view, in > > > particular from the vantage point of the Chandra > > > Lagna, or Moon-as-Ascendant. If we do this here with > > > Oprah, we see that she has the full and mutual aspect > > > of Jupiter on her Moon (and close orb-wise as well; > > > within about 5 degrees); note also that Jupiter is the > > > 2nd lord from the Moon. Now, note again how Rahu > > > aspects Jupiter, along with the afore-mentioned > > > conditions of Rahu on Oprah's 2nd house. In viewing > > > the horoscope in multiple ways then, we can determine > > > exactly to what extent a given situation will likely > > > be manifest in a person's life. Here, in the case of > > > Oprah, as it relates to her overweight issues (and, we > > > can say, so many other things about her life; more on > > > that later), the case is iron-tight. > > > > > > The Dasa of Rahu has been in operation from 1991 and > > > will end in the year 2009; since the time it began, > > > Oprah has been on the weight and diet roller coaster. > > > At present, the sub period of Venus is running in the > > > major period of Rahu; it has been reported that Oprah > > > has yet again engaged the services of a trainer and > > > has gone and yet another diet, exceeding 300 lbs in > > > weight. In the planetary scheme of things, Venus and > > > Rahu are friends. > > > > > > With the follow-up Dasa of Jupiter to begin in 2009, > > > we can be reasonably sure that Oprah will battle with > > > her weight for the balance of her life; Jupiter being > > > one of the "fat" planets following on the dasa of such > > > an overwhelming planet like Rahu, is no easy feat to > > > manage. > > > Just some thoughts. > > > > > > Salaam, > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > mumin_bey > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499@p...; Cell phone: 267- 978-2812 > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological > > Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- @t... > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 OM param-tatvaaya dattatreyaaya gurubhyo namah | Dear Shiva & Friends, Yes. Nodes and Malefic promote leanness of body. Mars makes it sinewy, Rahu extremely muscular, Saturn lean ... and so on. Point is aspect of malefics makes one lean, whereas the case is opposite with benefics. Jupiter is significator of *Fats* and his aspect tends to make one corpulent. Regards Narayan vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote: > Your niece's case may have some other factors other than rahu for > obesity. One or two cases dont make a rule!!! > > I have a friend who is very fit and atheletic (not an iota of body > fat - pumps iron every day) and he has rahu in lagna in Sc. > > -Siva. > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a niece (10) with rahu in the ascendant. I can confirm the > > association with obesity, and also with extreme restlessness in > behaviour at > > times. She is the only family member who has had this problem. > Another > > family member with rahu in the ascendant has been of a very > deceptive > > character, but as exalted sun is also in the ascendant, the > obesity did not > > show up. > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > <schinnas> > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:28 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Obesity and The Nodes > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mumin Bey, > > > I have a feeling that "real" planets and rasis have more to > > > indicate about obesity than shadow planets of rahu and ketu. > > > > > > I tested your hypothesis on my chart and it doesnt hold up. In > my > > > observations, the effect of Jupiter, and rasis such as Pisces, > Sg, > > > and Cancer have more to do in indicating obesity than nodes. > > > > > > regards, > > > -Siva. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey > <mumin_bey> > > > wrote: > > > > Obesity and The Nodes > > > > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 > > > > > > > > It has been recently reported that obesity, being > > > > grossly overweight, is fast becoming the leading > > > > ailment/illness in America. More people in the USA are > > > > overweight today than at any other time in its > > > > history. This especially extends to children and > > > > women, some two thirds of whom are overweight. > > > > > > > > 31% of all people in America are obese. > > > > > > > > Studies have shown that being obese in early adulthood > > > > can reduce one's lifespan, up to 20 years in some > > > > cases! And then, there is all of the side-issues that > > > > surround this: the lawsuits with airline companies and > > > > so on over inadequate accommodations; the continuing > > > > ridicule over image as it relates to larger people, > > > > and more. > > > > > > > > Americans enjoy more food today, and have more access > > > > to it than at any other time in Human History. In > > > > addition, more Americans enjoy(?) a leisure lifestyle, > > > > with exercise dropping below minimum levels. > > > > Government agencies now promote "verb" campaigns in an > > > > effort to stave adolescent obesity. > > > > > > > > Americans are, without a doubt, the fattest people in > > > > the World. > > > > > > > > All of this occurs, the study of this condition, this > > > > state of affairs, under the transit of the Nodes, Rahu > > > > and Ketu, in their exaltation Signs of Taurus and > > > > Scorpio. These two Shadowy Planets can shed mush light > > > > on this situation. The following story about them is > > > > illuminating. > > > > > > > > The Nodes, Rahu the North Node and Ketu the South > > > > Node, were at one time a singular being, a Rakshasha, > > > > or serpent-demon. This being was able to get into a > > > > grand party that the rest of Planets were having, many > > > > moons ago. At this party, which was hosted by Lord > > > > Vishnu, the Planets had gathered around a dinner > > > > table, and Lord Vishnu passed around a potion called > > > > amrita, which granted immortality to whomever drank > > > > it. The demon, having the ability to don many > > > > disguises, got a seat at the table in this manner. > > > > > > > > Just when the demon's turn to drink the potion came, > > > > his ruse was discovered by the Sun and Moon, and they > > > > alerted Vishnu to the interloper. Vishnu grabbed his > > > > discus and threw it at the demon, just as he was > > > > drinking the potion; the discus severed the being at > > > > the neck, and Rahu and Ketu was born. > > > > > > > > While both Nodes represent obsessions in general, the > > > > key planet to lookout for here is Rahu, for it was he > > > > that was so eager to get hold of the amrita; Ketu, the > > > > lower half, wanted so badly to die and to leave this > > > > plane of existence, whereas, Rahu wants to experience > > > > as much carnality as possible. Therefore, from this > > > > story, we can see the Nodes connections to compulsions > > > > and obsessions overall, as well as its links to drugs > > > > (amrita), suicide (the nature of Ketu), and excessive > > > > materiality (money, food, sex; "bling-bling", etc), > > > > foreigners (other races), outcastes and so on. > > > > The Nodes, and in particular Rahu, is exalted in > > > > Taurus, the sign associated with Venus, the planet of > > > > sensual pleasures like eating. Rahu tends to expand > > > > whatever it touches, and in association with Venus, > > > > Rahu can certainly suggest potential for weight > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > This same condition can be seen when Rahu aspects or > > > > resides in the 2nd house as well; if one of the "fat" > > > > planets also comes into play, the potential for > > > > obesity is that much more heightened. > > > > > > > > As an example of the ways in which this can play > > > > itself, we'll look at the horoscope of Oprah Winfrey, > > > > born Jan 29, 1954, at 7:51pm in Kosciusko, MS, > > > > according to the Clifford Data Compendium, found on > > > > the Solarfire program. This chart, if correct, > > > > reflects in so many ways Oprah's many and epic battles > > > > with her weight. Note how Rahu and Venus are both in > > > > the 6th house; in a Vedic chart, the 6th house is one > > > > of battles and enemies. Her Sun, which is also her > > > > Ascendant Lord, is also in the 6th house, along with > > > > Mercury, which is the 2nd lord of food and the mouth. > > > > > > > > Now, several things to consider here: Venus is > > > > severely combust by the Sun, AND the Sun and Venus are > > > > enemies. This combines both an inimical relationship > > > > between Oprah herself (Sun) and the food choices she > > > > makes (Venus), as well as the types of food that she > > > > is most likely to consume (Venus being weakened, both > > > > by association, combustion and house placement, the > > > > 6th all contribute to her eating foods that have > > > > little to any nutritional value). Note how Rahu > > > > aspects the 2nd house, and its association with 2nd > > > > lord Mercury makes things that much more problematic. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology has long made a tradition of looking > > > > at the horoscope from a myriad points of view, in > > > > particular from the vantage point of the Chandra > > > > Lagna, or Moon-as-Ascendant. If we do this here with > > > > Oprah, we see that she has the full and mutual aspect > > > > of Jupiter on her Moon (and close orb-wise as well; > > > > within about 5 degrees); note also that Jupiter is the > > > > 2nd lord from the Moon. Now, note again how Rahu > > > > aspects Jupiter, along with the afore-mentioned > > > > conditions of Rahu on Oprah's 2nd house. In viewing > > > > the horoscope in multiple ways then, we can determine > > > > exactly to what extent a given situation will likely > > > > be manifest in a person's life. Here, in the case of > > > > Oprah, as it relates to her overweight issues (and, we > > > > can say, so many other things about her life; more on > > > > that later), the case is iron-tight. > > > > > > > > The Dasa of Rahu has been in operation from 1991 and > > > > will end in the year 2009; since the time it began, > > > > Oprah has been on the weight and diet roller coaster. > > > > At present, the sub period of Venus is running in the > > > > major period of Rahu; it has been reported that Oprah > > > > has yet again engaged the services of a trainer and > > > > has gone and yet another diet, exceeding 300 lbs in > > > > weight. In the planetary scheme of things, Venus and > > > > Rahu are friends. > > > > > > > > With the follow-up Dasa of Jupiter to begin in 2009, > > > > we can be reasonably sure that Oprah will battle with > > > > her weight for the balance of her life; Jupiter being > > > > one of the "fat" planets following on the dasa of such > > > > an overwhelming planet like Rahu, is no easy feat to > > > > manage. > > > > Just some thoughts. > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > > mumin_bey > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499@p...; Cell phone: 267- > 978-2812 > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological > > > Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > @t... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Hi, I have a niece (10) with rahu in the ascendant. I can confirm the association with obesity, and also with extreme restlessness in behaviour at times. She is the only family member who has had this problem. Another family member with rahu in the ascendant has been of a very deceptive character, but as exalted sun is also in the ascendant, the obesity did not show up. Regards, Nimmi - <schinnas <vedic astrology> Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:28 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Obesity and The Nodes > > Dear Mumin Bey, > I have a feeling that "real" planets and rasis have more to > indicate about obesity than shadow planets of rahu and ketu. > > I tested your hypothesis on my chart and it doesnt hold up. In my > observations, the effect of Jupiter, and rasis such as Pisces, Sg, > and Cancer have more to do in indicating obesity than nodes. > > regards, > -Siva. > > vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> > wrote: > > Obesity and The Nodes > > Tuesday, January 14, 2003 > > > > It has been recently reported that obesity, being > > grossly overweight, is fast becoming the leading > > ailment/illness in America. More people in the USA are > > overweight today than at any other time in its > > history. This especially extends to children and > > women, some two thirds of whom are overweight. > > > > 31% of all people in America are obese. > > > > Studies have shown that being obese in early adulthood > > can reduce one's lifespan, up to 20 years in some > > cases! And then, there is all of the side-issues that > > surround this: the lawsuits with airline companies and > > so on over inadequate accommodations; the continuing > > ridicule over image as it relates to larger people, > > and more. > > > > Americans enjoy more food today, and have more access > > to it than at any other time in Human History. In > > addition, more Americans enjoy(?) a leisure lifestyle, > > with exercise dropping below minimum levels. > > Government agencies now promote "verb" campaigns in an > > effort to stave adolescent obesity. > > > > Americans are, without a doubt, the fattest people in > > the World. > > > > All of this occurs, the study of this condition, this > > state of affairs, under the transit of the Nodes, Rahu > > and Ketu, in their exaltation Signs of Taurus and > > Scorpio. These two Shadowy Planets can shed mush light > > on this situation. The following story about them is > > illuminating. > > > > The Nodes, Rahu the North Node and Ketu the South > > Node, were at one time a singular being, a Rakshasha, > > or serpent-demon. This being was able to get into a > > grand party that the rest of Planets were having, many > > moons ago. At this party, which was hosted by Lord > > Vishnu, the Planets had gathered around a dinner > > table, and Lord Vishnu passed around a potion called > > amrita, which granted immortality to whomever drank > > it. The demon, having the ability to don many > > disguises, got a seat at the table in this manner. > > > > Just when the demon's turn to drink the potion came, > > his ruse was discovered by the Sun and Moon, and they > > alerted Vishnu to the interloper. Vishnu grabbed his > > discus and threw it at the demon, just as he was > > drinking the potion; the discus severed the being at > > the neck, and Rahu and Ketu was born. > > > > While both Nodes represent obsessions in general, the > > key planet to lookout for here is Rahu, for it was he > > that was so eager to get hold of the amrita; Ketu, the > > lower half, wanted so badly to die and to leave this > > plane of existence, whereas, Rahu wants to experience > > as much carnality as possible. Therefore, from this > > story, we can see the Nodes connections to compulsions > > and obsessions overall, as well as its links to drugs > > (amrita), suicide (the nature of Ketu), and excessive > > materiality (money, food, sex; "bling-bling", etc), > > foreigners (other races), outcastes and so on. > > The Nodes, and in particular Rahu, is exalted in > > Taurus, the sign associated with Venus, the planet of > > sensual pleasures like eating. Rahu tends to expand > > whatever it touches, and in association with Venus, > > Rahu can certainly suggest potential for weight > > problems. > > > > This same condition can be seen when Rahu aspects or > > resides in the 2nd house as well; if one of the "fat" > > planets also comes into play, the potential for > > obesity is that much more heightened. > > > > As an example of the ways in which this can play > > itself, we'll look at the horoscope of Oprah Winfrey, > > born Jan 29, 1954, at 7:51pm in Kosciusko, MS, > > according to the Clifford Data Compendium, found on > > the Solarfire program. This chart, if correct, > > reflects in so many ways Oprah's many and epic battles > > with her weight. Note how Rahu and Venus are both in > > the 6th house; in a Vedic chart, the 6th house is one > > of battles and enemies. Her Sun, which is also her > > Ascendant Lord, is also in the 6th house, along with > > Mercury, which is the 2nd lord of food and the mouth. > > > > Now, several things to consider here: Venus is > > severely combust by the Sun, AND the Sun and Venus are > > enemies. This combines both an inimical relationship > > between Oprah herself (Sun) and the food choices she > > makes (Venus), as well as the types of food that she > > is most likely to consume (Venus being weakened, both > > by association, combustion and house placement, the > > 6th all contribute to her eating foods that have > > little to any nutritional value). Note how Rahu > > aspects the 2nd house, and its association with 2nd > > lord Mercury makes things that much more problematic. > > > > Vedic Astrology has long made a tradition of looking > > at the horoscope from a myriad points of view, in > > particular from the vantage point of the Chandra > > Lagna, or Moon-as-Ascendant. If we do this here with > > Oprah, we see that she has the full and mutual aspect > > of Jupiter on her Moon (and close orb-wise as well; > > within about 5 degrees); note also that Jupiter is the > > 2nd lord from the Moon. Now, note again how Rahu > > aspects Jupiter, along with the afore-mentioned > > conditions of Rahu on Oprah's 2nd house. In viewing > > the horoscope in multiple ways then, we can determine > > exactly to what extent a given situation will likely > > be manifest in a person's life. Here, in the case of > > Oprah, as it relates to her overweight issues (and, we > > can say, so many other things about her life; more on > > that later), the case is iron-tight. > > > > The Dasa of Rahu has been in operation from 1991 and > > will end in the year 2009; since the time it began, > > Oprah has been on the weight and diet roller coaster. > > At present, the sub period of Venus is running in the > > major period of Rahu; it has been reported that Oprah > > has yet again engaged the services of a trainer and > > has gone and yet another diet, exceeding 300 lbs in > > weight. In the planetary scheme of things, Venus and > > Rahu are friends. > > > > With the follow-up Dasa of Jupiter to begin in 2009, > > we can be reasonably sure that Oprah will battle with > > her weight for the balance of her life; Jupiter being > > one of the "fat" planets following on the dasa of such > > an overwhelming planet like Rahu, is no easy feat to > > manage. > > Just some thoughts. > > > > Salaam, > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > mumin_bey > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499@p...; Cell phone: 267-978-2812 > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological > Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum-@t... > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > ....... 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