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In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that

there are several at least superficially different ways to approach

God. Of them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate

action without any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the

expression of devotion to God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be

the discovery of God through analytical understanding (observation?)

of the universe.

 

I have several questions:

1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that

at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially

the same, so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat

different.

2) Second, if they are in some way different (as they appear to be),

I remember that in this group I have heard that if your AK is the

same as your Istha Devata you are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar

simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and even more

interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?

3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that

someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like

Mother Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu

Krishnamurti or the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct?

The chart details of all can be found in the birthdata bank in this

newsgroup. It would be nice if someone could show the above mentioned

patterns (if they exist) in some of the above charts.

 

Thank you very much in advance,

 

Sundeep

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Dear Sandeep,

The way I have understood is that karma yoga without expectations purifies our

mind. Pure mind attracts knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to

increase devotion (Bhakti yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three

points on a circle. Different people may start at different point. But

ultimately when one has experienced all three yogas the person progesses

spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately achieves Moksha. So they are all

connected.

With Best Regards,

Sadashiv.

 

"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent >" <vedicastrostudent >

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In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that there are

several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of them, Karma

Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without any regard for

returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to God, and Sankhya

Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through analytical understanding

(observation?)of the universe.I have several questions:1) First, do you Gurus

agree with the above assessment? I know that at the deeper level the Gita also

says that all paths are essentially the same, so perhaps I am wrong in even

recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second, if they are in some way

different (as they appear to be), I remember that in this group I have heard

that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you are a Karma Yogi. Are

there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and even more

interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?3) In my simple

understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that someone like Srila

Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother Teresa would be a Karma

Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or the Buddha would be a

Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all can be found in the

birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if someone could show the

above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the above charts.Thank you

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Dear Sadashiv,

Your message to sandeep is very apt and shows depth of your knowledge and analytical capacity.

Chandrashekhar.

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Sadashiv Dharwarkar

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Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns?

II OM NAMOBHAGAWATE VASUDEVAYA II Dear Sandeep, The way I have understood is

that karma yoga without expectations purifies our mind. Pure mind attracts

knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to increase devotion (Bhakti

yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three points on a circle. Different

people may start at different point. But ultimately when one has experienced all

three yogas the person progesses spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately

achieves Moksha. So they are all connected. With Best Regards, Sadashiv.

"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent >" <vedicastrostudent >

wrote: In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that

there are several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of

them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without

any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to

God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through

analytical understanding (observation?)of the universe.I have several

questions:1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that

at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially the same,

so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second,

if they are in some way different (as they appear to be), I remember that in

this group I have heard that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you

are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize

Bhakti Yoga and even more interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what

are they?3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that

someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother

Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or

the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all

can be found in the birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if

someone could show the above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the

above charts.Thank you very much in advance,SundeepArchives:

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Best Regards,

Sadashiv

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Sadashiv,

Your message to sandeep is very apt and shows depth of your knowledge and analytical capacity.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sadashiv Dharwarkar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns?

II OM NAMOBHAGAWATE VASUDEVAYA II Dear Sandeep, The way I have understood is

that karma yoga without expectations purifies our mind. Pure mind attracts

knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to increase devotion (Bhakti

yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three points on a circle. Different

people may start at different point. But ultimately when one has experienced all

three yogas the person progesses spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately

achieves Moksha. So they are all connected. With Best Regards, Sadashiv.

"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent >" <vedicastrostudent >

wrote: In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that

there are several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of

them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without

any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to

God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through

analytical understanding (observation?)of the universe.I have several

questions:1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that

at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially the same,

so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second,

if they are in some way different (as they appear to be), I remember that in

this group I have heard that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you

are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize

Bhakti Yoga and even more interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what

are they?3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that

someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother

Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or

the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all

can be found in the birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if

someone could show the above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the

above charts.Thank you very much in advance,SundeepArchives:

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` ¬I— AaiStk< minraj< nmaenm>,

 

Dear Sundeep,

 

Here's the answer to your 2nd question. You will find all of them in Jaimini

Maharishi's Upadesa Sutras.

 

> Are there similar > simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and

even more > interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?

 

Mercury in trines especially the 1st/5th makes one a Mimamsika.Mimamsa: Freedom

through the Performance of Duty. It means to analyze and understand thoroughly.

Mimamsa emphasizes the teachings of Veda in the light of rituals. It provides a

philosophical justification for rituals and explains the meanings behind them.

Hence, we need to pay attention to Mercury (Vidyakaaraka), who obviously as

explained above is a significator of analysis.

 

Jupiter in Swamsa makes a Karma Yogi who will excel in all field due to his own

intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion or priest.

 

The Moon in 1st/5th gives knowledge of Sankhya & Yoga philosophies besides

history( Rhetoric & Music) or produces a Singer.

Samkhya is a dualistic philosophy that believes in the coexistent and

interdependent realities, conscious Purusha and unconscious Prakrti. Samkhya

philosophy explains the dynamics of the body and nature of mind. Yoga studies

all aspects of human personality and teaches one how to control the

modifications of the mind through practice of meditation and detachment and

surrender to higher consciousness. Practicality is the main feature of this

system.

The Sun in 1st5th gives knowledge of Vedas and Bhagavat Gita.

The main teachings of Vedanta is that self-realization is the actual goal of

life, that the essence of the self is the ever existent consciousness and

bliss, the Self is free from all qualifications and limitations, that the self

is essentially Brahman, which is the basis of mind and matter.

Hope this helps.

Warm Regards

Narayan

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