Query bout the ISHTA devta..A request to all GURUJI's plz enlighten me

November 19, 2002

om gurave namah

Dear Sumeet,

The Ista Devata is seen from the 12th house from Atmakaraka in Navamsa (i.e.

12th house from the karakamsa). The planets which influence this house by

aspect or by placement can lead us to the Ista Devata, who is represented by

the lord of this house. If a planet is placed in this house, it can

intercede with the Ishta Devata planet on our behalf, and so we can pray to

the deity represented by it. In the same way, we can consider aspects on

this house when there are no planets placed there. When we try to find the

Ishta Devata, we must only consider the forms (avatars) of Maha-Vishnu. So,

the Sun and Moon would represent Rama and Krishna respectively.

ajit

-

"Kumar, Suneet (eGM)" <suneet.kumar-eds

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:27 PM

[vedic astrology] Query bout the ISHTA devta..A request to all

GURUJI's plz enlighten me

> OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH !

>

> Namaskar,

>

> I was going about the mails in the group about the ishta devta finding in

> the horoscope. I am attaching and pasting the replies and horoscope of the

> native here. Plz go through that.

>

> Now when I matched that with the finding method of ISHTA devta from Guru

Sh.

> Sanjay Rath's Book "Vedic Remedies", I was lost in the above findings and

my

> findings..

>

> The concept is like that

>

> 1) Find the AtamaKarak in the rasi chart.

> 2) Find where this AtamaKarak is placed in Navamsa and this is called as

> Karakamsa.

> 3) From the KarakAmsa calculate the 12th house which is used for the ISHTA

> devta clarrification.

> a) Now if there are more than one planets in 12th house from

> karakamsa than depending upon their powers ISHTA devta is concluded.

> b) If there is 1 planet in this than its straight, that the devta

> for that planet is your ISHTA devta

> c) If there are 0 planets in this house than look for the planetry

> aspects on this house ( also written that sign aspect should be considered

> alone - Now what this mean here, I am not able to get this point here )

> Suppose again 1 planet aspect this house than that concludes your ISHTA

> devta. If more than one than again depending on there power we conclude

> that. Also if no ( 0 planet) is aspecting that than the lord of 12th house

> from karakamsa should be considered for calculating his ISHTA devta.

>

> I request to all GURUJI's to plz enlighten my thinking in this regard.

> If possible plz use the example with no lords in 12th from karakamsa. Also

> what else info is needed in this regard. <<NPrakash.jhd>>

>

> Namakar

> Suneet

>

November 20, 2002

Dear Sunit,

You are right in assuming that if there are no planets in the 12th house from

karakamasa, then we see the lord. The lord's position, rasi and aspects on it

may guide us in determining the deity. When the 12th lord from the karakamsa is

the atmakaraka itself, then the Atmakaraka can be considered as the ishta. Such

a person is usually very spiritual. When there are more than one planet in the

12th from karakamsa, then be careful in choosing which is the strongest planet

; specially if the nodes are present with any of the luminaries. Try to work it

out with your chart.

Regards,

Sarbani

Kumar, Suneet (eGM)

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vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Query bout the ISHTA

devta..A request to all GURUJI's plz enlighten meImportance: HighOM GAM

GANAPATYE NAMAH !Namaskar,I was going about the mails in the group about the

ishta devta finding inthe horoscope. I am attaching and pasting the replies and

horoscope of thenative here. Plz go through that.Now when I matched that with

the finding method of ISHTA devta from Guru Sh.Sanjay Rath's Book "Vedic

Remedies", I was lost in the above findings and myfindings..The concept is like

that1) Find the AtamaKarak in the rasi chart.2) Find where this AtamaKarak is

placed in Navamsa and this is called asKarakamsa.3) From the KarakAmsa

calculate the 12th house which is used for the ISHTAdevta clarrification.

a) Now if there are more than one planets in 12th house fromkarakamsa than

depending upon their powers ISHTA devta is concluded. b) If there is 1

planet in this than its straight, that the devtafor that planet is your ISHTA

devta c) If there are 0 planets in this house than look for the

planetryaspects on this house ( also written that sign aspect should be

consideredalone - Now what this mean here, I am not able to get this point here

)Suppose again 1 planet aspect this house than that concludes your ISHTAdevta.

If more than one than again depending on there power we concludethat. Also if

no ( 0 planet) is aspecting that than the lord of 12th housefrom karakamsa

should be considered for calculating his ISHTA devta.I request to all GURUJI's

to plz enlighten my thinking in this regard. If possible plz use the example

with no lords in 12th from karakamsa. Alsowhat else info is needed in this

regard. <<NPrakash.jhd>> NamakarSuneetThe under is pasted the replies

-------Om

Gurave Namah Pranams Ramadass Sir, Regarding the concept of ishta devata, as I

said earlier I have been taughtonly little. Am sure there is more to it.

However this is what I have learnttill date. The 12th from karakamsa is the

focal point to determine the Istha devata.There could be 3 situations in this

context. 1. The 12th from karakamsa is empty - In this case the lord denotes

theIstha. 2. The 12th from Karakamsa has one planet - In this case the planet

in the12th from karakamsa denotes the Istha 3. The 12th from karakamsa has more

than one planet - In this case theplanet that is more advanced in degrees

denotes the Istha. Reverse for rahuofcourse. After having said the above, some

people may realize their istha throughsome other means. The destination or

objective of enlightenment is onlyone.. though the means to achieve it could be

many. In such a case, theplanets having Rasi drishti denote the means. Those

planets lead the nativetowards god. Ofcourse the determination of istha should

flexible. This is what little Iknow. I stand to be corrected. Regds Hari

- Ramadas Rao<ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>

vedic astrology<vedic astrology>

Monday, November 11, 20025:07 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Naaga

Dosham - thanks and a fewqueries on it OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

Namaste Katti Narahari, At first I thought Shukra ,12th lord from

Karakamsha is in Karakamsha,so Godess Lakshmi is his Ishta

devatha,But then in Karaksmasha ,its lord Kuja is there indicating Lord

Skanda as Kuja becomes stronger than the 2 there.So he can worship Lord

Murugan.But then I saw Mantra Pada A5 is in Mithuna and is Vargothama

also and Budha who is the lord of A5 can become his Ishta Devatha and by

worshipping Lord Vishnu ,his life will be prosperous.So if there is any

mistakes,correct me. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. --- "Katti

Narahari (Aditya)" <kattinarahari (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah

> >

--

> > Dear Ramdas, > > On the basis of what little i have

been taught so > far, i beg to differ. > > Sun is the chara

atmakaraka and karakamsa is Sc. > 12th from Sc is libra with no planet in

it. It's > lord is venus and hence the istha devata is lakshmi. >

Seeing the rasi drishti's the following dieties will > help the native

reach his istha devata. Rahu > (Durga), Jupiter (sada shiva), ketu (Ganesh

or > Muruga/Skanda) and saturn (Narayana). > > I see that you

have used graha drishti in the > analysis when you say that 12th from

surya in > navamsa is aspected by Mercury. Again i have ben > taought

to use only Rasi Drishti's. > > Will wait for ur learned comments

> > Regds > > Hari > - >

Ramadas Rao > vedic astrology > Sent:

Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:36 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Naaga Dosham - > thanks and a few queries on it > > > OM

KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > Dear Paraksh, > As per your chart,Soorya is

your chara Atma Karaka > and > he is placed in Vrischika

Navamsha.12th from him > is > lorded by Shukra who is placed with him

along with > Kuja who is the lord of Vrischika itself.So Kuja > is

> stronger than Soorya and Shukra.But 12th from > Soorya > in

Navamsha is aspected by Budha and Arudha of > Mantra > Pada is in

Mithuna which is also Vargothama > indicating > your Ishta Devatha is

Lord Vishnu.So recite > everyday > Sri Vishnu Sahasra Nama Stotram and

chant OM NAMO > BHAGAVATHE VASUDEVAYA,minimum 108 times a day. > Also

Rahu is your Amatya Karaka and he is placed > in > Kumbha Navamsha

and 6th from him is lorded by > Chandra > who is your 9th lord and

placed in Navamsha > Lagna.No > planet is occupied in Kataka Navamsha

or > aspects.So > worship Godess Durga is your Palana (Protective )

> Devatha .So worship Her also by reciting daily > Durga >

Kavacha,Durga Stotra and Sri Durga Mantra OM HREEM > DUM > DURGAI

NAMAHA,minimum of 108 times a day.Also see > your > Vimshamasha

Kundali.The 2nd from Vimshamsha Lagna > is > occupied by Shukra,so

Godess Maha Lakshmi is your > Kula > Devatha and worship Her also and

visit her temple > in > the viscinity of your birth place. > I

hope this benefits you. > With best regards, > Ramadas Rao. ---

Prakash Narayanan > <rcnp > > wrote: > > > Dear

Ramadasrao, > > Can you please tell how to find the istha deivam >

for > > me from my chart? Mercury and Sun (in mesha) > aspect >

> my 12 th house in Rasi (Thula) which is the 12 > th > > house from

Karakamsa. Also Jupiter aspects the > Sun > > and Mercury from the

2nd house (dhanus)Jupiter > in > > the second house is aspected by

Mars and Venus > from > > the eight house. > > Based on the

planets involved Sun, mercury, > Jupiter, > > Mars and Venus how can

i find the istha deivam > for > > spiritual progress as well as

material progress > in > > this life. > > Thanks! > >

Prakash > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM > KLEEM

> > KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > Dear Paraksh, > > Now considering from UL,UL

lord Shani aspects > it,so > > there will be amarried life to you.2nd

from UL > is in > > a > > benefic sign of Meena Rasi owned by

Guru and > Chandra > > ,the 9th lord is placed there.So your marriage

> life > > will be happy eventhough it is delayed.Also Guru > ®

> > aspects 2nd from UL apart from aspects from > Shukra > > and

> > Kuja.So do the remedial measures with complete > faith > > and

you will succeed in your aim to get married > to a > > good wife.

> > I hope this clears your doubt. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas

Rao. --- Prakash Narayanan > <rcnp > > > wrote: > > >

> Dear Ramadas, > > > Thanks very much for your help. I will start >

> > reciting the mantras from today onwards. > > > Even if marriage is

delayed do i have a happy > > > married life? > > > Thanks! > >

> Prakash > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM > >

KLEEM > > > KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > > Dear Prakash, > > > You have

very good vipareeta Raja Yoga in your > > > chart.But regarding

marriage,it says Shani in > 7th > > > delays it.Now 7th lord Shukra

is in 8th with > Lagna > > > and > > > 6th lord Kuja.Shani is

Vargothama.Being 3rd > and > > 4th > > > lord he becomes a

malefic for this chart.Budha > is > > > also > > > a malefic but

he lord of 11th house,indicating > > gain > > > (Of spouse ?) is also

vargothama.Considering > from > > > Moon > > > sign Budha

becomes 7th lord and also a > > bhadhaka.Guru > > > is kutumba

Stanadhipathy placed in 2nd house > but > > > Retrograde.UL is placed

in Kumbha Rasi which > is > > 4th > > > from Lagna and UL lord

Shani is in 7th from > Lagna > > > and > > > aspects UL.So there

will be married life for > you > > but > > > delayed.At the

moment Shani is in Mithuna Rasi > ,in > > > the > > > 4th from

Moon sign creating Kantaka Shani.But > Guru > > > is > > > in

5th from Moon sign now.Anyhow the present > > Shukra > > >

Dasa,Guru's Antara and Budha's pratyantara > which > > > runs >

> > between Feb.2003 and June 2003 promises > marriage > > and >

> > especially from April 2003 to July 2003 will > be a > > > god

> > > time to get married.But to remove the > afflictions > > of

> > > Shani,you must recite Sri Lakshmi Kavacha > daily.In > > >

adition to that following Mantra has to be > recited > > > 10000

times totally: > > > OM KLEEM VISHWAVASUNAAMAGANDHARVAHA KANYAA > >

LABHAAMI > > > DEVADATTAAM KANYAA SWARUPAAM SAALANKARAAM > TASMAI

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November 20, 2002

Dear Sunit,

While I am a learner, and not in any way a Guru, I thought I could answer

one question you had regarding sign aspects.

( also written that sign aspect should be consideredalone - Now what this mean

here, I am not able to get

this point here )

There are two sets of aspects to be considered in Jyotish. The most common one

known and used is the Graha Drishti (Planetary Aspect) - the rules of which are

as follows:

1. All planets aspect any other planet and the sign in the 1st and 7th house from itself

2. Mars, Saturn, Jupiter have special aspects; Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th;

Jupiter 5th and 9th;

Mars aspects 4th and 8th from itself.

Some people actually believe that all planets have quarter, half or full aspects

on the 3/10; 5/9 and 4/8 respectively with Saturn, Jupiter and Mars in

particular having full aspects as in 2 above.

The second one is Rasi drishti (Sign Aspect). This is often referred to as

belonging to the Jamini system (but I follow our Gurus paradigm of jyotish

being an integrated one). As per this,

All Chara rasis (Movable signs) aspect all Sthira rasis (Fixed signs) except the one next to them.

All Sthira rasis (Fixed) aspect all Chara rasis (Movable) except the one next to them.

All Dwiswabhava rasis aspect all the remaning Dwiswabhava rasis.

Hence, Pisces, Gemini, Virgo and Saggi (Dwiswabhava) aspect each other.

Aries (Chara rasi) aspects Aquarius, Scorpio, Leo (Sthira rasis) not Taurus.

Scorpio (Sthira rasi) aspects Capricorn, Aries, Cancer (Chara rasis) not Libra.

My understanding of drishtis is as follows:

a) Only Grahas cast drishtis. Rasi drishti refers only to the drishti cast by a

Graha when in a particular rasi. Its a bit like having a window from your house

to a neighbours house. The windows become relevant only when there is someone

occupying the house (else it is a nice decorative piece but of limited use).

b) Graha drishtis are like the influence of a person at a particular place he

occupies at any particular time: At work, at play, at home, at a friends house

etc. Rasi drishtis are like the influence a person has on a neighbour or a

neighbours house - whom he can only watch through the window or influence

through the window - a remote® influence. It helps but the impact is rather

limited compared to Graha drishtis.

The thing I need to figure out now is when is Graha drishti relevant in

calculations and when is Rasi drishti as there are prescriptions in various

places regarding use of rasi drishtis only. Any gurus, could you please shed

light on this?

Do get Guru Narasimhas book if you are looking for a lucid style of writing (as

he describes it, more like a physics book if I recall correctly) on the tools

in jyotish.

Hope that helps,

Subramaniam

Kumar, Suneet (eGM)

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