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Om Krishna Guru

Dear Sudarshan,

You have missed one rule for calculating the varga

Narayana dasa.I would like to bring your attention to steps 4 and 5

on page 27 of the Narayana Dasa lecture handout.

 

Step4: Take the sign occupied by him in D-n in your case D-10

 

Step5 Use this sign as the seed instead of lagna and find Narayana

dasa for D-10 just as if it were the rasi chart and that sign were

the lagna.IT DOES NOT ASK YOU TO FIND THE STRONGER OF THE SEED SIGN

OR THE SEVENTH FROM IT.

 

Since you are looking at the D-10 varga chart you should use the sign

occupied by the 10th lord of the rasi chart as the starting sign(Seed

sign).Look at the 9th from the seed sign to see if it is odd or even

FOOTED, that will determine if the order is zodiacal or anti-zodiacal.

The seed sign will determine the progression ie Brahma, Vishnu or

Shiva progression.

 

Once again you do not need to determine the strength of the seed sign

or the 7th from it.

 

Hope this clarifies things

 

regards

Bharminder

 

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Gurus and List,

>

> I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and Libra

in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught in

Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

>

> 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

>

> Both dont have any planets

>

> 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

>

> Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

>

> 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

>

> Neither qualifies

>

> 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

>

> Both are movable

>

> 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

>

> In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord of

Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same strength

per this rule.

>

> 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart is a

Varga chart.

>

> Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have made

a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

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HAre Krishna Sudharsan

Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Hare Rama Krishna

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Gurus and List,

I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and Libra in the

attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught in Princeton, but

am unable to qualify either.

1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

Both dont have any planets

2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

Neither qualifies

4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

Both are movable

5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord of Libra is in

Cancer again an even house.So both have the same strength per this rule.

6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart is a Varga chart.

Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have made a mistake in

the above rules.Thanks.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsan

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Om Krishna Guru

Dear Sudharshan,

You are right about taking the stronger of

Scorpio/Taurus.In the chart you have given Taurus is the initiating

sign.Since the starting sign contains Saturn, the Saturn exception

applies ie the progression is Brahma's progression and zodiacal in

order.

 

The dasa's are

 

Ta= 3-1= 2yrs

Ge= 12 yrs

Cn= 9-1-1= 7yrs

Le= 7-1 = 6yrs

Vi=4-1 = 3 yrs

Li= 10-1 = 9yrs

Sc= Mars is stronger =7-1 = 6yrs

Sg=10-1 = 9yrs

Cp=9-1 = 8 yrs

Aq= Saturn is stronger= 10-1= 9yrs

Pi=7-1 = 6yrs

Ar = 2-1= 1 yr

 

Why do you need the stronger of Aries/Libra? Am I missing something

 

regards

Bharminder

 

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Barminder,

> The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a varga

chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is not

very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213) is

very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart and

use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is to

determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as the

initiating sign as it has two planets.

> My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is stronger.

Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to be a tough

cookie.

>

> HAre Krishna

> Sudharsan

>

> Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700

(PDT)

> Sudharsan Srinivasan

> Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> vedic astrology

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Gurus and List,

>

> I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and Libra

in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught in

Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

>

> 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

>

> Both dont have any planets

>

> 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

>

> Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

>

> 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

>

> Neither qualifies

>

> 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

>

> Both are movable

>

> 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

>

> In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord of

Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same strength

per this rule.

>

> 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart is a

Varga chart.

>

> Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have made

a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

>

>

>

>

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Bharminder,

 

I need that to figure out the progression of antaradasas.Libra

mahadasa starts in 1998, but the progression of Antaradasas depend on

the stronger of Aries and Libra.Thanks.

 

 

Hare Krishna

 

Sudharsan

 

 

vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

> Dear Sudharshan,

> You are right about taking the stronger of

> Scorpio/Taurus.In the chart you have given Taurus is the initiating

> sign.Since the starting sign contains Saturn, the Saturn exception

> applies ie the progression is Brahma's progression and zodiacal in

> order.

>

> The dasa's are

>

> Ta= 3-1= 2yrs

> Ge= 12 yrs

> Cn= 9-1-1= 7yrs

> Le= 7-1 = 6yrs

> Vi=4-1 = 3 yrs

> Li= 10-1 = 9yrs

> Sc= Mars is stronger =7-1 = 6yrs

> Sg=10-1 = 9yrs

> Cp=9-1 = 8 yrs

> Aq= Saturn is stronger= 10-1= 9yrs

> Pi=7-1 = 6yrs

> Ar = 2-1= 1 yr

>

> Why do you need the stronger of Aries/Libra? Am I missing something

>

> regards

> Bharminder

>

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Barminder,

> > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a varga

> chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is not

> very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213)

is

> very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart and

> use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

> WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is to

> determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as the

> initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

stronger.

> Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to be a tough

> cookie.

> >

> > HAre Krishna

> > Sudharsan

> >

> > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -

0700

> (PDT)

> > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > vedic astrology

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Gurus and List,

> >

> > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and

Libra

> in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught

in

> Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> >

> > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> >

> > Both dont have any planets

> >

> > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> >

> > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> >

> > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> >

> > Neither qualifies

> >

> > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> >

> > Both are movable

> >

> > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> >

> > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord

of

> Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same

strength

> per this rule.

> >

> > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart is

a

> Varga chart.

> >

> > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have

made

> a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> >

> > Hare Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Dear Sudharsan,

 

I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the whole chart wasn't

posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa narayana dasa?

I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of aries/libra ..neither of

them have planets. Are you taking the rasi 10L and looking for it's placement

in dasamsa? Then find stronger of that sign and 7th from it as Barminder

detailed for you. Maybe you are trying to do something else. I'm just not

following it.

 

Best wishes,

Karen

-

Sudharsan Srinivasan

vedic astrology

Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

Hare Rama Krishna Jaya Jagannatha Dear Barminder, The dasa seed is used to

determine the initiating sign in a varga chart, but the procedure for stronger

sign still applies.It is not very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's

book(Page 213) is very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows- 1)In

the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart and use his position

as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO

PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS. 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next

step is to determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as the

initiating sign as it has two planets. My problem is to determine which among

Libra or Aries is stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears

to be a tough cookie. HAre Krishna Sudharsan

Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

Sudharsan Srinivasan Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign DoubtTo:

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Hare Rama Krishna

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Gurus and List,

I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and Libra in the

attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught in Princeton, but

am unable to qualify either.

1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

Both dont have any planets

2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

Neither qualifies

4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

Both are movable

5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord of Libra is in

Cancer again an even house.So both have the same strength per this rule.

6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart is a Varga chart.

Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have made a mistake in

the above rules.Thanks.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsan

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Karen,

 

I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra and Aries

to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I have

delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign) in my first

post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board and cannot

attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

23rd March 1968

TOB:20:20:31

76E58 11N00

 

Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first post in the

thread.Thanks.

 

Hare Krishna

 

Sudharsan

 

 

vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Sudharsan,

>

> I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the whole

chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa narayana

dasa?

> I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking the rasi

10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find stronger of

that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you. Maybe you

are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

>

> Best wishes,

> Karen

> -

> Sudharsan Srinivasan

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

>

> Dear Barminder,

>

> The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a varga

chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is not

very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213) is

very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

>

> 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart and

use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

>

> 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is to

determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as the

initiating sign as it has two planets.

>

> My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to be a

tough cookie.

>

>

> HAre Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

>

> Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

>

> Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> Sudharsan Srinivasan

> Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> vedic astrology

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Gurus and List,

>

> I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and

Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as

taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

>

> 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

>

> Both dont have any planets

>

> 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

>

> Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

>

> 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

>

> Neither qualifies

>

> 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

>

> Both are movable

>

> 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

>

> In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord

of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same

strength per this rule.

>

> 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart

is a Varga chart.

>

> Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have

made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

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Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Sudharsan,

The case you have is very unique and I did not come

across any explicit rules for dealing with the same.

 

However while looking through the examples in Pt Sanjay Rath's

book on Narayana dasa I did come across an example that is similar to

your example.

 

I am giving the birth details since I cannot post the chart

Chart 39

Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati

18 July 1935 at 19:00

Irul Neki village,India

10N42,79E26

 

Ascdt is 8Cp15

 

The D-20 varga Narayana dasa is computed in the example along with

the antardasa's for the Aquarius Narayana dasa.

 

Seed for D-20 is the lord of the 8th house in Rasi.Sun is the 8th

lord in Ta.

 

Dasa periods

Ta=5 yrs

Sg=5 yrs

Cn= 4 yrs

Aq= 11 yrs

 

 

If you apply the rules for strength to Aq and Le you will get the

same situation that you encountered.Sanjay has started the antardasas

from Ta.

 

Apparently the deciding factor in this case has been the strength of

the lords of the two signs under consideration.In this case the lord

of Le , Sun is with 2 planets while Saturn is alone and since Sun

occupies Ta the antardasa's start from Ta.

 

This is what I could infer maybe Sanjay or Narasimha can elaborate on

this.

 

regards

Bharminder

 

 

 

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Bharminder,

>

> I need that to figure out the progression of antaradasas.Libra

> mahadasa starts in 1998, but the progression of Antaradasas depend

on

> the stronger of Aries and Libra.Thanks.

>

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

>

> vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> > Om Krishna Guru

> > Dear Sudharshan,

> > You are right about taking the stronger of

> > Scorpio/Taurus.In the chart you have given Taurus is the

initiating

> > sign.Since the starting sign contains Saturn, the Saturn

exception

> > applies ie the progression is Brahma's progression and zodiacal

in

> > order.

> >

> > The dasa's are

> >

> > Ta= 3-1= 2yrs

> > Ge= 12 yrs

> > Cn= 9-1-1= 7yrs

> > Le= 7-1 = 6yrs

> > Vi=4-1 = 3 yrs

> > Li= 10-1 = 9yrs

> > Sc= Mars is stronger =7-1 = 6yrs

> > Sg=10-1 = 9yrs

> > Cp=9-1 = 8 yrs

> > Aq= Saturn is stronger= 10-1= 9yrs

> > Pi=7-1 = 6yrs

> > Ar = 2-1= 1 yr

> >

> > Why do you need the stronger of Aries/Libra? Am I missing

something

> >

> > regards

> > Bharminder

> >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Barminder,

> > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a

varga

> > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is

not

> > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213)

> is

> > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart

and

> > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE

IS

> > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is to

> > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as

the

> > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

> stronger.

> > Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to be a tough

> > cookie.

> > >

> > > HAre Krishna

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -

> 0700

> > (PDT)

> > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > vedic astrology

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > >

> > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries and

> Libra

> > in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as taught

> in

> > Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > >

> > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > >

> > > Both dont have any planets

> > >

> > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > >

> > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> > >

> > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > >

> > > Neither qualifies

> > >

> > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > >

> > > Both are movable

> > >

> > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > >

> > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the Lord

> of

> > Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same

> strength

> > per this rule.

> > >

> > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the Chart

is

> a

> > Varga chart.

> > >

> > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I have

> made

> > a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

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Dear Sudarshan,

 

To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and the

reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude than Mars

the Lord of Aries.

 

But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you take

the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra, and find

its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house and the 7H

from it.

 

In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of Scorpio &

Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is regular &

zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is placed in

Taurus. Just Clarifying.

 

Warm Regards,

Narayan

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Karen,

>

> I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra and

Aries

> to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I have

> delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign) in my

first

> post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

> Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board and

cannot

> attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> 23rd March 1968

> TOB:20:20:31

> 76E58 11N00

>

> Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first post in

the

> thread.Thanks.

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

>

> vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> >

> > Dear Sudharsan,

> >

> > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the

whole

> chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa

narayana

> dasa?

> > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking the

rasi

> 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find stronger

of

> that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you. Maybe

you

> are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Karen

> > -

> > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > vedic astrology

> > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign

Doubt

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> > Dear Barminder,

> >

> > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a

varga

> chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is not

> very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213)

is

> very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> >

> > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart

and

> use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE

IS

> WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> >

> > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is

to

> determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as

the

> initiating sign as it has two planets.

> >

> > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

> stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to be

a

> tough cookie.

> >

> >

> > HAre Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

> >

> >

> > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> >

> > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > vedic astrology

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Gurus and List,

> >

> > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries

and

> Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as

> taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> >

> > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> >

> > Both dont have any planets

> >

> > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> >

> > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> >

> > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> >

> > Neither qualifies

> >

> > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> >

> > Both are movable

> >

> > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> >

> > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the

Lord

> of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same

> strength per this rule.

> >

> > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the

Chart

> is a Varga chart.

> >

> > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I

have

> made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> >

> > Hare Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

> >

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Narayan,

 

Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say Libra is

stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in longitude

in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive at that

conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a few

lines.Thanks for the help.

 

Hare Krishna

 

Sudharsan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <naaraayana_iyer>

wrote:

> Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> --------------------

>

> Dear Sudarshan,

>

> To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and the

> reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude than

Mars

> the Lord of Aries.

>

> But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you take

> the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra, and find

> its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house and the

7H

> from it.

>

> In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of Scorpio &

> Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

> Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is regular &

> zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is placed in

> Taurus. Just Clarifying.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Narayan

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

<sudhar108>

> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Karen,

> >

> > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra and

> Aries

> > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I have

> > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign) in my

> first

> > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

> > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board and

> cannot

> > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > 23rd March 1968

> > TOB:20:20:31

> > 76E58 11N00

> >

> > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first post in

> the

> > thread.Thanks.

> >

> > Hare Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...> wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > >

> > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > >

> > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the

> whole

> > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa

> narayana

> > dasa?

> > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking the

> rasi

> > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find

stronger

> of

> > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you. Maybe

> you

> > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Karen

> > > -

> > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign

> Doubt

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Barminder,

> > >

> > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in a

> varga

> > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is

not

> > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page 213)

> is

> > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > >

> > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi chart

> and

> > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE

> IS

> > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > >

> > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step is

> to

> > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus as

> the

> > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > >

> > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

> > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears to

be

> a

> > tough cookie.

> > >

> > >

> > > HAre Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

> > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > >

> > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > vedic astrology

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > >

> > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between Aries

> and

> > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence as

> > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > >

> > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > >

> > > Both dont have any planets

> > >

> > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > >

> > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> > >

> > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > >

> > > Neither qualifies

> > >

> > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > >

> > > Both are movable

> > >

> > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > >

> > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus the

> Lord

> > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the same

> > strength per this rule.

> > >

> > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the

> Chart

> > is a Varga chart.

> > >

> > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if I

> have

> > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

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Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

--------------------

 

Dear Sudarsha,

 

Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord of the

2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you mentioned.)

This has to be done even though we are working on the divisional

chart!

 

Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

 

Warm Regards

Narayan Iyer

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Narayan,

>

> Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say Libra is

> stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

longitude

> in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive at

that

> conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a few

> lines.Thanks for the help.

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Sudharsan

>

>

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

<naaraayana_iyer>

> wrote:

> > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > --------------------

> >

> > Dear Sudarshan,

> >

> > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and the

> > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude than

> Mars

> > the Lord of Aries.

> >

> > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you

take

> > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra, and

find

> > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house and

the

> 7H

> > from it.

> >

> > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of Scorpio &

> > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

> > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is regular

&

> > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is placed in

> > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> > Narayan

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> <sudhar108>

> > wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Karen,

> > >

> > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra and

> > Aries

> > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I

have

> > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign) in

my

> > first

> > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

> > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board and

> > cannot

> > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > 23rd March 1968

> > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > 76E58 11N00

> > >

> > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first post

in

> > the

> > > thread.Thanks.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > >

> > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the

> > whole

> > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa

> > narayana

> > > dasa?

> > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking

the

> > rasi

> > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find

> stronger

> > of

> > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you.

Maybe

> > you

> > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Karen

> > > > -

> > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign

> > Doubt

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > >

> > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in

a

> > varga

> > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It is

> not

> > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page

213)

> > is

> > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > >

> > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi

chart

> > and

> > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

DIFFERENCE

> > IS

> > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > >

> > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step

is

> > to

> > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus

as

> > the

> > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > >

> > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

> > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears

to

> be

> > a

> > > tough cookie.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > HAre Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Sudharsan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > >

> > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between

Aries

> > and

> > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence

as

> > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > >

> > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > >

> > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > >

> > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > >

> > > > Neither qualifies

> > > >

> > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > >

> > > > Both are movable

> > > >

> > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > >

> > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus

the

> > Lord

> > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the

same

> > > strength per this rule.

> > > >

> > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as the

> > Chart

> > > is a Varga chart.

> > > >

> > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if

I

> > have

> > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Sudharsan

> > > >

> > > >

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Om Krishna Guru

Dear Narayan,

 

> Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

> concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord of

the

> 2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you mentioned.)

> This has to be done even though we are working on the divisional

> chart!

 

In example 39 of the Narayana Dasa book Sanjayji has given an example

for calculating the D-20 Narayana dasa's.

 

The chart is that of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati.In this

example although Saturn is higher in longitude than Sun the Aquarius

antardasa's are started from Ta where Sun is posited.That seems to be

different from what you are suggesting.Could you clarify that

 

regards

Bharminder

 

 

 

>

> Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

>

> Warm Regards

> Narayan Iyer

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

<sudhar108>

> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Narayan,

> >

> > Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say Libra

is

> > stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

> longitude

> > in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive at

> that

> > conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a few

> > lines.Thanks for the help.

> >

> > Hare Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> <naaraayana_iyer>

> > wrote:

> > > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > > --------------------

> > >

> > > Dear Sudarshan,

> > >

> > > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and the

> > > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude than

> > Mars

> > > the Lord of Aries.

> > >

> > > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you

> take

> > > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra, and

> find

> > > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house and

> the

> > 7H

> > > from it.

> > >

> > > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of Scorpio

&

> > > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

> > > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is regular

> &

> > > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is placed

in

> > > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards,

> > > Narayan

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > <sudhar108>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > >

> > > > Dear Karen,

> > > >

> > > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra and

> > > Aries

> > > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I

> have

> > > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign) in

> my

> > > first

> > > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

> > > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board and

> > > cannot

> > > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > > 23rd March 1968

> > > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > > 76E58 11N00

> > > >

> > > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first post

> in

> > > the

> > > > thread.Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Sudharsan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...>

wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since the

> > > whole

> > > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the dasamsa

> > > narayana

> > > > dasa?

> > > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking

> the

> > > rasi

> > > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find

> > stronger

> > > of

> > > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you.

> Maybe

> > > you

> > > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Karen

> > > > > -

> > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger

Sign

> > > Doubt

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > > >

> > > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign in

> a

> > > varga

> > > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It

is

> > not

> > > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book(Page

> 213)

> > > is

> > > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > > >

> > > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi

> chart

> > > and

> > > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

> DIFFERENCE

> > > IS

> > > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next step

> is

> > > to

> > > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose Taurus

> as

> > > the

> > > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries is

> > > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this appears

> to

> > be

> > > a

> > > > tough cookie.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > HAre Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between

> Aries

> > > and

> > > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the sequence

> as

> > > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > > >

> > > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > > >

> > > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their Lords.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > > >

> > > > > Neither qualifies

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > > >

> > > > > Both are movable

> > > > >

> > > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and Venus

> the

> > > Lord

> > > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the

> same

> > > > strength per this rule.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as

the

> > > Chart

> > > > is a Varga chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me if

> I

> > > have

> > > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan

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Om Hum Vishnave Namah

---------------------

 

Dear Bharminder,

 

Nice Point. The only reason I can come up with is, Sun the Lord of

Leo is with more number of planets(i.e Jupiter) than Saturn(who is

alone).

 

In the chart Sudarshan posted, both Mars & Venus(lords of Aries &

Libra respectively) are with equal number of planets! So it wont

make any difference in his case.

 

Neverthless, it is an interesting point, must be one of those rules,

which needs to be tested and finalized. Hopefully Sanjayji or

Narasimha will throw more light on this.

 

Warm Regards

Narayan

 

vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

> Dear Narayan,

>

> > Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

> > concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord of

> the

> > 2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you mentioned.)

> > This has to be done even though we are working on the divisional

> > chart!

>

> In example 39 of the Narayana Dasa book Sanjayji has given an

example

> for calculating the D-20 Narayana dasa's.

>

> The chart is that of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati.In this

> example although Saturn is higher in longitude than Sun the

Aquarius

> antardasa's are started from Ta where Sun is posited.That seems to

be

> different from what you are suggesting.Could you clarify that

>

> regards

> Bharminder

>

>

>

> >

> > Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Narayan Iyer

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> <sudhar108>

> > wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Narayan,

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say

Libra

> is

> > > stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

> > longitude

> > > in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive at

> > that

> > > conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a few

> > > lines.Thanks for the help.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > <naaraayana_iyer>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > > > --------------------

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sudarshan,

> > > >

> > > > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and

the

> > > > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude

than

> > > Mars

> > > > the Lord of Aries.

> > > >

> > > > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you

> > take

> > > > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra,

and

> > find

> > > > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house

and

> > the

> > > 7H

> > > > from it.

> > > >

> > > > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of

Scorpio

> &

> > > > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

> > > > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is

regular

> > &

> > > > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is

placed

> in

> > > > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > Narayan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > > <sudhar108>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Karen,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra

and

> > > > Aries

> > > > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra

Mahadasa.I

> > have

> > > > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign)

in

> > my

> > > > first

> > > > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a

solution.

> > > > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board

and

> > > > cannot

> > > > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > > > 23rd March 1968

> > > > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > > > 76E58 11N00

> > > > >

> > > > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first

post

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > thread.Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since

the

> > > > whole

> > > > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the

dasamsa

> > > > narayana

> > > > > dasa?

> > > > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you

taking

> > the

> > > > rasi

> > > > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find

> > > stronger

> > > > of

> > > > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you.

> > Maybe

> > > > you

> > > > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Karen

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger

> Sign

> > > > Doubt

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign

in

> > a

> > > > varga

> > > > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still

applies.It

> is

> > > not

> > > > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book

(Page

> > 213)

> > > > is

> > > > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the

Rasi

> > chart

> > > > and

> > > > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

> > DIFFERENCE

> > > > IS

> > > > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next

step

> > is

> > > > to

> > > > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose

Taurus

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries

is

> > > > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this

appears

> > to

> > > be

> > > > a

> > > > > tough cookie.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HAre Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between

> > Aries

> > > > and

> > > > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the

sequence

> > as

> > > > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their

Lords.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neither qualifies

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both are movable

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and

Venus

> > the

> > > > Lord

> > > > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the

> > same

> > > > > strength per this rule.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as

> the

> > > > Chart

> > > > > is a Varga chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me

if

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Narayan,

 

> In the chart Sudarshan posted, both Mars & Venus(lords of Aries &

> Libra respectively) are with equal number of planets! So it wont

> make any difference in his case.

 

Since Sanjayji has used the stronger lord of the two signs as the

deciding the stronger sign this makes me wonder if we can apply rules

for the determining the stronger lord between Mars&Ketu or

Saturn&Rahu.

 

In such a case Mars becomes the stronger lord ( decided on basis of

Dual>Fixed>Movable) in the example that Sudharshan gave.

 

I agree it would be helpful if Sanjayji or Narasimha could clarify

this.

 

regards

Bharminder

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Om Guruvae Namaha!

Dear Bharminder,

In the case of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati's D-

20, In trying to determine the stronger of Aquarius and Leo for

Aquarius antra dasa, Leo is aspected by Mercury while Aquarius is

aspected by none of Me/Jup/Lord . Hence Leo is stronger. The

Antradasa starts from Ta (having Sun).

 

regards,

Shriram

 

vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

> Dear Narayan,

>

> > Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

> > concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord of

> the

> > 2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you mentioned.)

> > This has to be done even though we are working on the divisional

> > chart!

>

> In example 39 of the Narayana Dasa book Sanjayji has given an

example

> for calculating the D-20 Narayana dasa's.

>

> The chart is that of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati.In this

> example although Saturn is higher in longitude than Sun the

Aquarius

> antardasa's are started from Ta where Sun is posited.That seems to

be

> different from what you are suggesting.Could you clarify that

>

> regards

> Bharminder

>

>

>

> >

> > Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Narayan Iyer

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> <sudhar108>

> > wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Narayan,

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say Libra

> is

> > > stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

> > longitude

> > > in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive at

> > that

> > > conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a few

> > > lines.Thanks for the help.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Sudharsan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > <naaraayana_iyer>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > > > --------------------

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sudarshan,

> > > >

> > > > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and

the

> > > > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude

than

> > > Mars

> > > > the Lord of Aries.

> > > >

> > > > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa, you

> > take

> > > > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra,

and

> > find

> > > > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house and

> > the

> > > 7H

> > > > from it.

> > > >

> > > > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of

Scorpio

> &

> > > > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence D10

> > > > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is

regular

> > &

> > > > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is placed

> in

> > > > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > Narayan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > > <sudhar108>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Karen,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of Libra

and

> > > > Aries

> > > > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra Mahadasa.I

> > have

> > > > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger Sign)

in

> > my

> > > > first

> > > > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a solution.

> > > > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message board

and

> > > > cannot

> > > > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > > > 23rd March 1968

> > > > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > > > 76E58 11N00

> > > > >

> > > > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first

post

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > thread.Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example since

the

> > > > whole

> > > > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the

dasamsa

> > > > narayana

> > > > > dasa?

> > > > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you taking

> > the

> > > > rasi

> > > > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then find

> > > stronger

> > > > of

> > > > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for you.

> > Maybe

> > > > you

> > > > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Karen

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-Stronger

> Sign

> > > > Doubt

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating sign

in

> > a

> > > > varga

> > > > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still applies.It

> is

> > > not

> > > > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book

(Page

> > 213)

> > > > is

> > > > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the Rasi

> > chart

> > > > and

> > > > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

> > DIFFERENCE

> > > > IS

> > > > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next

step

> > is

> > > > to

> > > > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose

Taurus

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or Aries

is

> > > > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this

appears

> > to

> > > be

> > > > a

> > > > > tough cookie.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HAre Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign between

> > Aries

> > > > and

> > > > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the

sequence

> > as

> > > > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their

Lords.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neither qualifies

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both are movable

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and

Venus

> > the

> > > > Lord

> > > > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have the

> > same

> > > > > strength per this rule.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable as

> the

> > > > Chart

> > > > > is a Varga chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct me

if

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > > > >

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Om Namah Shivaaya

-----------------

 

Dear Shriram,

 

Please recheck, Mercury aspects both Leo & Aquarius from Aries.

Jupiter aspects none, and both the signs are not aspected by their

lords.

 

Warm Regards

Narayan

 

vedic astrology, "Shriram Srinivasan" <shris1>

wrote:

> Om Guruvae Namaha!

> Dear Bharminder,

> In the case of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati's

D-

> 20, In trying to determine the stronger of Aquarius and Leo for

> Aquarius antra dasa, Leo is aspected by Mercury while Aquarius is

> aspected by none of Me/Jup/Lord . Hence Leo is stronger. The

> Antradasa starts from Ta (having Sun).

>

> regards,

> Shriram

>

> vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> > Om Krishna Guru

> > Dear Narayan,

> >

> > > Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

> > > concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord

of

> > the

> > > 2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you

mentioned.)

> > > This has to be done even though we are working on the

divisional

> > > chart!

> >

> > In example 39 of the Narayana Dasa book Sanjayji has given an

> example

> > for calculating the D-20 Narayana dasa's.

> >

> > The chart is that of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati.In

this

> > example although Saturn is higher in longitude than Sun the

> Aquarius

> > antardasa's are started from Ta where Sun is posited.That seems

to

> be

> > different from what you are suggesting.Could you clarify that

> >

> > regards

> > Bharminder

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Narayan Iyer

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > <sudhar108>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > >

> > > > Dear Narayan,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say

Libra

> > is

> > > > stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

> > > longitude

> > > > in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive

at

> > > that

> > > > conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a

few

> > > > lines.Thanks for the help.

> > > >

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Sudharsan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > > <naaraayana_iyer>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > > > > --------------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sudarshan,

> > > > >

> > > > > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries, and

> the

> > > > > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher longitude

> than

> > > > Mars

> > > > > the Lord of Aries.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa,

you

> > > take

> > > > > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is Libra,

> and

> > > find

> > > > > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house

and

> > > the

> > > > 7H

> > > > > from it.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of

> Scorpio

> > &

> > > > > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence

D10

> > > > > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is

> regular

> > > &

> > > > > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is

placed

> > in

> > > > > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > > Narayan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > > > <sudhar108>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Karen,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of

Libra

> and

> > > > > Aries

> > > > > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra

Mahadasa.I

> > > have

> > > > > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger

Sign)

> in

> > > my

> > > > > first

> > > > > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a

solution.

> > > > > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message

board

> and

> > > > > cannot

> > > > > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > > > > 23rd March 1968

> > > > > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > > > > 76E58 11N00

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first

> post

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > thread.Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example

since

> the

> > > > > whole

> > > > > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the

> dasamsa

> > > > > narayana

> > > > > > dasa?

> > > > > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > > > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you

taking

> > > the

> > > > > rasi

> > > > > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then

find

> > > > stronger

> > > > > of

> > > > > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for

you.

> > > Maybe

> > > > > you

> > > > > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following

it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > Karen

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-

Stronger

> > Sign

> > > > > Doubt

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating

sign

> in

> > > a

> > > > > varga

> > > > > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still

applies.It

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book

> (Page

> > > 213)

> > > > > is

> > > > > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the

Rasi

> > > chart

> > > > > and

> > > > > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

> > > DIFFERENCE

> > > > > IS

> > > > > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the next

> step

> > > is

> > > > > to

> > > > > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose

> Taurus

> > > as

> > > > > the

> > > > > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or

Aries

> is

> > > > > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this

> appears

> > > to

> > > > be

> > > > > a

> > > > > > tough cookie.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HAre Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign

between

> > > Aries

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the

> sequence

> > > as

> > > > > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their

> Lords.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neither qualifies

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Both are movable

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and

> Venus

> > > the

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have

the

> > > same

> > > > > > strength per this rule.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable

as

> > the

> > > > > Chart

> > > > > > is a Varga chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct

me

> if

> > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Guruvae Namaha!

 

Dear Narayan,

Yes , I agree.

 

regards,

Shriram

 

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <naaraayana_iyer>

wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaaya

> -----------------

>

> Dear Shriram,

>

> Please recheck, Mercury aspects both Leo & Aquarius from Aries.

> Jupiter aspects none, and both the signs are not aspected by their

> lords.

>

> Warm Regards

> Narayan

>

> vedic astrology, "Shriram Srinivasan" <shris1>

> wrote:

> > Om Guruvae Namaha!

> > Dear Bharminder,

> > In the case of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra

Saraswati's

> D-

> > 20, In trying to determine the stronger of Aquarius and Leo for

> > Aquarius antra dasa, Leo is aspected by Mercury while Aquarius is

> > aspected by none of Me/Jup/Lord . Hence Leo is stronger. The

> > Antradasa starts from Ta (having Sun).

> >

> > regards,

> > Shriram

> >

> > vedic astrology, "bsgill70" <bsgill70@h...> wrote:

> > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > Dear Narayan,

> > >

> > > > Yes, I was referring to the Dasamsa. As far as the rules are

> > > > concerned, the last step is to see the longitudes of the lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > 2 houses/signs concerned(after the bunch of rules you

> mentioned.)

> > > > This has to be done even though we are working on the

> divisional

> > > > chart!

> > >

> > > In example 39 of the Narayana Dasa book Sanjayji has given an

> > example

> > > for calculating the D-20 Narayana dasa's.

> > >

> > > The chart is that of Sankaracharya Sri Jayendra Saraswati.In

> this

> > > example although Saturn is higher in longitude than Sun the

> > Aquarius

> > > antardasa's are started from Ta where Sun is posited.That seems

> to

> > be

> > > different from what you are suggesting.Could you clarify that

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Bharminder

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Narayan Iyer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > > <sudhar108>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Narayan,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for the help.Just to be certain,when you say

> Libra

> > > is

> > > > > stronger are you referring to Dasamsa? Venus is greater in

> > > > longitude

> > > > > in Rashi chart but in the case of Dasamsa, how do we arrive

> at

> > > > that

> > > > > conclusion? If its not too much of a bother can you pen a

> few

> > > > > lines.Thanks for the help.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > > > <naaraayana_iyer>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Om Jaya Jaggannaatha

> > > > > > --------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sudarshan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To answer your question, Libra is stronger than Aries,

and

> > the

> > > > > > reason being that Venus lord of Libra has higher

longitude

> > than

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > the Lord of Aries.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But, if you want to calculate the Dasamsa Narayana Dasa,

> you

> > > > take

> > > > > > the 10L in Rasi chart i.e. Moon as Lagna in Rasi is

Libra,

> > and

> > > > find

> > > > > > its position in D-10. Consider the stronger of that house

> and

> > > > the

> > > > > 7H

> > > > > > from it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the chart you gave, Moon is in Scorpio. Stronger of

> > Scorpio

> > > &

> > > > > > Taurus is Taurus as it has more number of planets. Hence

> D10

> > > > > > Narayana Dasa begins with Taurus and the progression is

> > regular

> > > > &

> > > > > > zodiacal(Ta, Ge, Cn .... Ar) i.e Brahma's as Saturn is

> placed

> > > in

> > > > > > Taurus. Just Clarifying.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > > > Narayan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan"

> > > > > <sudhar108>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Karen,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am doing exactly that, but I need the stronger of

> Libra

> > and

> > > > > > Aries

> > > > > > > to detrminne the Antaradasa progression in Libra

> Mahadasa.I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > delienated the qualifiers(to determine the stronger

> Sign)

> > in

> > > > my

> > > > > > first

> > > > > > > post in this thread and have failed to arrive at a

> solution.

> > > > > > > Unfortunately Iam posting directly from the message

> board

> > and

> > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > attach the whole chart.If needed the birth details are

> > > > > > > 23rd March 1968

> > > > > > > TOB:20:20:31

> > > > > > > 76E58 11N00

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take a look at the Dasamsa as its attached to the first

> > post

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > thread.Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Karen Skoler

<nykaren@o...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sudharsan,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm having trouble following your Dasamsa example

> since

> > the

> > > > > > whole

> > > > > > > chart wasn't posted. Are you trying to calculate the

> > dasamsa

> > > > > > narayana

> > > > > > > dasa?

> > > > > > > > I don't know why are trying to find the stronger of

> > > > > > > aries/libra ..neither of them have planets. Are you

> taking

> > > > the

> > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > 10L and looking for it's placement in dasamsa? Then

> find

> > > > > stronger

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > that sign and 7th from it as Barminder detailed for

> you.

> > > > Maybe

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > are trying to do something else. I'm just not following

> it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Karen

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM

> > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa-

> Stronger

> > > Sign

> > > > > > Doubt

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Barminder,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The dasa seed is used to determine the initiating

> sign

> > in

> > > > a

> > > > > > varga

> > > > > > > chart, but the procedure for stronger sign still

> applies.It

> > > is

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > very clear in page 27 of the notes but Narasimha's book

> > (Page

> > > > 213)

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > very clear on this.The procedure outlined is as follows-

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1)In the case of Dasamsa take the 10th Lord in the

> Rasi

> > > > chart

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > use his position as the initiating seed sign.THE ONLY

> > > > DIFFERENCE

> > > > > > IS

> > > > > > > WE DONT USE THE LAGNA TO PROGRESS DASAS IN VARGAS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2)In the chart that I attached its Moon.But the

next

> > step

> > > > is

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > determine the stronger of Scorpio or Taurus.We choose

> > Taurus

> > > > as

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > initiating sign as it has two planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My problem is to determine which among Libra or

> Aries

> > is

> > > > > > > stronger. Appreciate any help in this regard as this

> > appears

> > > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > tough cookie.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HAre Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > > > > Narayana Dasa-Stronger Sign Doubt

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Gurus and List,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am trying to figure out the stronger sign

> between

> > > > Aries

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Libra in the attached chart. I have gone through the

> > sequence

> > > > as

> > > > > > > taught in Princeton, but am unable to qualify either.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Sign with the most planets is stronger

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Both dont have any planets

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2) Conjunction or aspects of Mercury/Jupiter/Lord

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Neither is aspected by Mercury, Jupiter or their

> > Lords.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3) Sign containing exalted/moola trikona/own sign.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Neither qualifies

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4) Dual Signs>Fixed Signs > Movable Signs

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Both are movable

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5) A sign whose Lord is in a different oddity

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this case Mars Lord of Aries is in Taurus and

> > Venus

> > > > the

> > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > of Libra is in Cancer again an even house.So both have

> the

> > > > same

> > > > > > > strength per this rule.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6) The rule for greater longitude is inapplicable

> as

> > > the

> > > > > > Chart

> > > > > > > is a Varga chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can anyone kindly help me in this case or correct

> me

> > if

> > > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > made a mistake in the above rules.Thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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