Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Hi, Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house? The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself? AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions. I request the learned ones here to help. Ramapriya hubli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Hari, One correction, the 3rd from Mars brings the younger sibling, not your courage. Best wishes, Visti. - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti, In the scheme of naisargika karaka's mars stands for both courage and younger siblings.. with relation to 3rd house.( mars also is the naisargika karaka for enemies/accidents etc which is 6th house) Just as 11th house and jupiter stand for elder siblings. When we see any house, say for example marriage, we see the 7th from lagna and 7th from venus too. in this case why wont 3rd from mars show true courage also? What am i missing? kindly correct me. Regds Hari - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:36 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Hari, One correction, the 3rd from Mars brings the younger sibling, not your courage. Best wishes, Visti. - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Om Ganeshaya Namah Dear Hari, Courage is a trait you are born with, and is indicated by the 3rd house from Lagna. The 6th house has Argala on the 3rd house, and without enemies or daring circumstances, we cannot manifest this courage. Hence its upto the Naisargika Karakas(being the real givers) to brings these individuals, through which we can manifest our different traits. As for marriage, we cannot marry, until our spouse has come.. we ask the 7th lord from Venus to bring our spouse. Hence the Naisargika Karakas bring the necessary people into our lives. Best wishes, Visti. - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti, In the scheme of naisargika karaka's mars stands for both courage and younger siblings.. with relation to 3rd house.( mars also is the naisargika karaka for enemies/accidents etc which is 6th house) Just as 11th house and jupiter stand for elder siblings. When we see any house, say for example marriage, we see the 7th from lagna and 7th from venus too. in this case why wont 3rd from mars show true courage also? What am i missing? kindly correct me. Regds Hari - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:36 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Hari, One correction, the 3rd from Mars brings the younger sibling, not your courage. Best wishes, Visti. - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? I don't fully understand how to interpret the result-manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, My 2 cents this. Mars and Ketu in the 3rd from lagna does make you courageous. No doubt about that. Now coming to the 3rd from AL. It's Gemini having Merc (retro) and Sun. You could be perceived as a witty person with a sense of humor that's not conventional. Sun in the 3rd from AL would make you strict in perception and since sun is also the lagna lord, you would be well read in topics other than your profession. (Sun as lagna lord would make you a eager reader---> i learnt this from Visti) As of sun in A3 it (A3) would have the markings of the character of Sun... who is the king, knowledge etc. Hope Visti and other learned guru's will correct me. Regds Hari - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear Hari, What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? I don't fully understand how to interpret the result-manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... - We Remember9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Dear hari, generally ketu in 3rd from lagna gives meditative capabilities. might it be that mars ketu combi in 3rd from lagna will also give courage in venturing into unknown phychic realms? regards jk - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, My 2 cents this. Mars and Ketu in the 3rd from lagna does make you courageous. No doubt about that. Now coming to the 3rd from AL. It's Gemini having Merc (retro) and Sun. You could be perceived as a witty person with a sense of humor that's not conventional. Sun in the 3rd from AL would make you strict in perception and since sun is also the lagna lord, you would be well read in topics other than your profession. (Sun as lagna lord would make you a eager reader---> i learnt this from Visti) As of sun in A3 it (A3) would have the markings of the character of Sun... who is the king, knowledge etc. Hope Visti and other learned guru's will correct me. Regds Hari - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear Hari, What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? I don't fully understand how to interpret the result-manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... - We Remember9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear JK, Ketu by nature is a planet of negation. More elaborately ketu represents hidden areas and can also destroy the same and thus freeing us from attachments. In the 3rd house also has to do with skills. It is possible that ketu hiding this could make the person usually discontented and will be responsible for creating too many doubts regarding his/her abilities. As far as meditation is concerned, i think it's the 12th house that stands for meditation. Awaiting for corrections. Regds Hari - j.k. dasgupta vedic astrology Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:36 AM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear hari, generally ketu in 3rd from lagna gives meditative capabilities. might it be that mars ketu combi in 3rd from lagna will also give courage in venturing into unknown phychic realms? regards jk - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, My 2 cents this. Mars and Ketu in the 3rd from lagna does make you courageous. No doubt about that. Now coming to the 3rd from AL. It's Gemini having Merc (retro) and Sun. You could be perceived as a witty person with a sense of humor that's not conventional. Sun in the 3rd from AL would make you strict in perception and since sun is also the lagna lord, you would be well read in topics other than your profession. (Sun as lagna lord would make you a eager reader---> i learnt this from Visti) As of sun in A3 it (A3) would have the markings of the character of Sun... who is the king, knowledge etc. Hope Visti and other learned guru's will correct me. Regds Hari - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear Hari, What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? I don't fully understand how to interpret the result-manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions.I request the learned ones here to help.Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... - We Remember9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah ---------------------- Dear Hari, Isn't the ability to negate/detach from the world indicative of an ability? Ketu in the 3rd house gives abilities within Meditation. Best wishes, Visti. vedic astrology, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear JK, > > Ketu by nature is a planet of negation. More elaborately ketu represents hidden areas and can also destroy the same and thus freeing us from attachments. In the 3rd house also has to do with skills. It is possible that ketu hiding this could make the person usually discontented and will be responsible for creating too many doubts regarding his/her abilities. > > As far as meditation is concerned, i think it's the 12th house that stands for meditation. > > Awaiting for corrections. > > Regds > > Hari > > - > j.k. dasgupta > vedic astrology > Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:36 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas > > > Dear hari, > > generally ketu in 3rd from lagna gives meditative capabilities. might it be that mars ketu combi in 3rd from lagna will also give courage in venturing into unknown phychic realms? > > regards > > jk > - > Katti Narahari > vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Rama, > > My 2 cents this. > > Mars and Ketu in the 3rd from lagna does make you courageous. No doubt about that. Now coming to the 3rd from AL. It's Gemini having Merc (retro) and Sun. You could be perceived as a witty person with a sense of humor that's not conventional. Sun in the 3rd from AL would make you strict in perception and since sun is also the lagna lord, you would be well read in topics other than your profession. (Sun as lagna lord would make you a eager reader---> i learnt this from Visti) As of sun in A3 it (A3) would have the markings of the character of Sun... who is the king, knowledge etc. > > Hope Visti and other learned guru's will correct me. > > Regds > > Hari > > > - > Ramapriya D > vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:33 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas > > > Dear Hari, > > What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). > > I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? > > I don't fully understand how to interpret the result- manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! > > What do you say? > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > > hubli@v... > > > Katti Narahari wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Rama, > > Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. > > Hope this helps. > > Regds > > Hari > - > ramapriya_d > vedic astrology > Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM > [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas > > > Hi, > > Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be > seen from the AL or the arudha of the house? > > The third house, for example, shows among other things the general > behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, > third from AL or from the third house itself? > > AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is > perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self > is, and that can be inferred from the third house. I wonder where A3 > comes into all this... unless I'm wrong in the earlier suppositions. > > I request the learned ones here to help. > > Ramapriya > hubli@v... > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 dear hari, thanks for the reply. as i know ketu gives ability to meditate in 3rd house. jk - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear JK, Ketu by nature is a planet of negation. More elaborately ketu represents hidden areas and can also destroy the same and thus freeing us from attachments. In the 3rd house also has to do with skills. It is possible that ketu hiding this could make the person usually discontented and will be responsible for creating too many doubts regarding his/her abilities. As far as meditation is concerned, i think it's the 12th house that stands for meditation. Awaiting for corrections. Regds Hari - j.k. dasgupta vedic astrology Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:36 AM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear hari, generally ketu in 3rd from lagna gives meditative capabilities. might it be that mars ketu combi in 3rd from lagna will also give courage in venturing into unknown phychic realms? regards jk - Katti Narahari vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, My 2 cents this. Mars and Ketu in the 3rd from lagna does make you courageous. No doubt about that. Now coming to the 3rd from AL. It's Gemini having Merc (retro) and Sun. You could be perceived as a witty person with a sense of humor that's not conventional. Sun in the 3rd from AL would make you strict in perception and since sun is also the lagna lord, you would be well read in topics other than your profession. (Sun as lagna lord would make you a eager reader---> i learnt this from Visti) As of sun in A3 it (A3) would have the markings of the character of Sun... who is the king, knowledge etc. Hope Visti and other learned guru's will correct me. Regds Hari - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Dear Hari, What better than to study an example? I've Mars and Ketu in the 3rd house (Libra). In the 3rd from AL (Gemini), which is also A3 in my case, there's Sun and Merc (retro). I can't run from the fact that the majority of those who know me see me as a churl. But this seems more the truth than perception because the 3rd from AL has planets that have a lot more nobility than the Mars-Ketu conjunction. How do you explain that then? I don't fully understand how to interpret the result-manifestation thing that's to be seen from the arudha, especially where the planet that's in it or aspecting it doesn't signify anything to do with that house. In my own A3 case, for instance, while Merc can be a karaka for communication, neither it nor Sun signify courage, boldness, behavior or siblings! What do you say? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Katti Narahari wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rama, Let;s take the same example of the 3rd house. It also shows courage,skills,communication etc. 3rd house from lagna shows the actual or true boldness. The karaka for courage is mars and hence 3rd house from mars too shows the same. Since AL shows the maya with relation to the self, the 3rd from AL shows the same... i.e how one;s courage is perceived. Now, A3 itself would show the maya (or the results that are manifested in this society) about boldness itself. If i have a magnum .45 colt vs. a crude country made pistol the perception would be different!. A3 could show the weapons i may possess. Hope this helps. Regds Hari - ramapriya_d vedic astrology Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:35 PM [vedic astrology] A Level 1 query on arudhas Hi,Should the significations of a house with respect to the lagna be seen from the AL or the arudha of the house?The third house, for example, shows among other things the general behavior of a person. So should the behavior be spotted based on A3, third from AL or from the third house itself?AFAIK, the third from AL would tell us how the chap's behavior is perceived by others, which might be different from how his real self is, and that can be inferred from the third house. 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