Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 hELLO TO ALL OF YOU, I am unable to to your list, please me thank you - <vedic astrology> <vedic astrology> 06 March, 2002 10:43 AM [vedic astrology] Digest Number 784 ------ There are 14 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: Re: "vanam satish" <satishvanam 2. Re: Srila Prabhupada "Sanjay Rath" <srath 3. Re: Srila Prabhupada "resimpson" <resimpson 4. Re: Vedic remedies anjaneya11 5. Re: Srila Prabhupada "resimpson" <resimpson 6. Re:Women-cancer "vanam satish" <satishvanam 7. saturn partha sarathy <partvinu5 8. Sorry Re: Exact 3 birthtimes Nandan Chakraborty <nanadhan 9. Re: Re:Women-cancer "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 10. Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi and all "vijayuma" <vijayuma 11. Do they match.. nagrani.rakesh 12. Re: Sorry Re: Exact 3 birthtimes "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip 13. Re: Fw: Paget - Little-known form of breast cancer "S.Gopal" <egs 14. Re: Vedic remedies "hosabbettu ramadas rao" <ramadasrao ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Mon, 04 Mar 2002 22:33:25 +0530 "vanam satish" <satishvanam Re: Re: Re: Nimmi, could u forward the mail related to women and cancer again (it is deleted by mistake). I would like to forward it to my friends. V Satish satishvanam Get Your Private, Free E-mail at Mailmetoday.com http://mailmetoday.com [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:22:46 +0530 "Sanjay Rath" <srath Re: Srila Prabhupada om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Robyn, I have mailed the link. It is under 'saints' in my website. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - resimpson vedic astrology Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:59 PM [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada Namaste. I would be most grateful if someone could direct me to wherever there is an analysis of Srila Prabhupada on the www. Preferably by Sri Sanjay Rath. Thank you. Hare Krsna Robyn Sponsor [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:00:41 +0200 "resimpson" <resimpson Re: Srila Prabhupada Namaste Dear Shailesh, Many thanks. That is fantastic. I shall start downloading them straight away. Hari Bol! Robyn - Shailesh vedic astrology Monday, March 04, 2002 5:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada Dear Robyn, Namsate, Here is the list of mails in Vedic-Astrology list - none by Sanjay ji. You may try back issues of Jyotish News. Best wishes, Shailesh MSG# FROM TOPIC 5605 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad YOGA, PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5827 Gauranga Das SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5828 Wendy Vasicek SRILA PRABHUPADA 5836 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 5839 Robert A. Koch SRILA PRABHUPADA 5840 Robert A. Koch ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5842 Wendy Vasicek ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5845 Robert A. Koch ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5870 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5928 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA' 5952 natabara SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA 6010 Gauranga Das SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA 6013 Gauranga Das [VEDIC-ASTROLOGY] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 6052 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad QUOTES FROM BPHS FOR BOTH SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHAR 6078 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 6134 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 6458 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 6607 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - resimpson vedic astrology Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:59 PM [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada Namaste. I would be most grateful if someone could direct me to wherever there is an analysis of Srila Prabhupada on the www. Preferably by Sri Sanjay Rath. Thank you. Hare Krsna Robyn Sponsor ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:38:25 +0500 (IST) anjaneya11 Re: Vedic remedies Hare Rama Krsna Dear Dhira Krsna Prabhu I shall like to answer your queries on behalf of Gurudev. My answers are hereunder in capitals... Om Krsna Guru. Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Aim gurave namah. Thank you very much for your enlightening words and advise. I'll convey your advise to the mother. I also have a few questions, which I would pray you to answer: 1) >His return to this planet is caused by Surya dosha which is not >only the Atmakaraka but also the Ista devata - a combination showing >great spirituality If Ista devata is seen from the 12th from karakamsha, how can it be at the same time AK? Or did you follow another calculation? KARAKAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA OCCUPIED BY THE ATMAKARAKA. IF THE 12TH FROM THE ATMAKARAKA IS VACANT AND THE LORD HAPPENS TO BE THE ATMAKARAKA HIMSELF, THEN THE ISTA AND THE AK ARE ONE AND THE SAME. OBVIOUSLY THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IF SOME PLANET IS PLACED IN THE 12TH FROM AK. IN SUCH CASE THE PERSON HIMSELF BECOMES HIS ISTA. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT THE PERSON IS A VERY EVOLVED SOUL, AKIN TO GOD HIMSELF. HOWEVER IF SOME OTHER PLANET CONJOIN THE ISTA PLANET, THE CONJOINING PLANET BECOMES THE ISTA AND THERE SHALL BE TRANSFER OF POWER FROM THE AK TO THE CONJOINING PLANET. IF MANY PLANETS CONJOIN THE AK, THEN THE STRONGEST BECOMES THE ISTA. 2) >From the Paka Lagna & Atmakaraka, Rahu and Moon occupy the 8th >house..you know the implications of this I REQUEST GURUDEV TO EXPAND ON THIS. Yes, this forms Balarista. Do you mean the child will die in early childhood? And a few general questions: 3) Someone told me that in the chart of conception of a child, the Moon's position will show the lagna at birth. Is this a valid theory? I tried my own conception chart and it indeed looks to be accurate. IN THE CONCEPTION CHART, THE MOON SHALL BE PLACED IN THE KENDRA FROM THE NATAL MOON AND THE CONCEPTION LAGNA SHALL BE 7TH FROM THE NATAL LAGNA. THUS MOON'S POSITION CAN SHOW LAGNA AT BIRTH ONLY WHEN NATAL MOON IS PLACED IN KENDRA TO THE NATAL LAGNA AND CONCEPTION LAGNA IS PLACED IN THE 7TH FROM THE CONCEPTION MOON. 4) How do the gotras be appointed in the chart? Are there different methods? I learned about the gotra being appointed according to the naksatra dispositor of lagna in the rasi chart. Again, this seems to be accurate in my family line. YOU CAN LEARN THE GOTRA ASSIGNMENT FROM THE PRASNA MARHA VOL II, BV RAMAN ON THE ADHYAYA ON MARRIAGE COMPATIBILITY. Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa REGARDS ANJANEYA ---------------- This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com Take the shortest route to success! Click here to know how http://education.sify.com ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:20:45 +0200 "resimpson" <resimpson Re: Srila Prabhupada om gurave namah, Dear Sri Sanjay, Yes, thank you. I found the link yesterday and Shailesh gave me the links to the messages. Spent yesterday going through your analysis. Fascinating and I learnt much from it. Where do I buy your books that would be advantageous to you? I am very keen to get all now. Hare Krsna Robyn - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Monday, March 04, 2002 9:08 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Robyn & Sailesh Just try this link it should work http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/Saints/sri_prabhupada.htm With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - Shailesh vedic astrology Monday, March 04, 2002 8:34 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada Dear Robyn, Namsate, Here is the list of mails in Vedic-Astrology list - none by Sanjay ji. You may try back issues of Jyotish News. Best wishes, Shailesh MSG# FROM TOPIC 5605 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad YOGA, PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5827 Gauranga Das SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5828 Wendy Vasicek SRILA PRABHUPADA 5836 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 5839 Robert A. Koch SRILA PRABHUPADA 5840 Robert A. Koch ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5842 Wendy Vasicek ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5845 Robert A. Koch ERRATA SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5870 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 5928 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA' 5952 natabara SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA 6010 Gauranga Das SOME THOUGHTS ON SRILA PRABHUPADA 6013 Gauranga Das [VEDIC-ASTROLOGY] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 6052 Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhad QUOTES FROM BPHS FOR BOTH SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHAR 6078 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 6134 Gauranga Das [sRI GURU] SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHART 6458 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA 6607 natabara SRILA PRABHUPADA'S LAGNA Shailesh Chandra Chadha scchadha - resimpson vedic astrology Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:59 PM [vedic astrology] Srila Prabhupada Namaste. I would be most grateful if someone could direct me to wherever there is an analysis of Srila Prabhupada on the www. Preferably by Sri Sanjay Rath. Thank you. Hare Krsna Robyn ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:16:44 +0530 "vanam satish" <satishvanam Re:Women-cancer Nimmi, could u please forward again the mail regarding women and cancer. V Satish satishvanam Get Your Private, Free E-mail at Mailmetoday.com http://mailmetoday.com [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:34:03 -0800 (PST) partha sarathy <partvinu5 saturn dear list Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! / ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 04:46:02 +0000 (GMT) Nandan Chakraborty <nanadhan Sorry Re: Exact 3 birthtimes Dear Dhira Krsna Ref: Exact record of birth time(s) of daughter: a) 1st incision, b) head out, c) 1st cry, d) cord-cut: As you are the Nth person who sent me a personal mail on this & I have had to write a disappointing reply to, I am also ccing this to the 3 Lists Very sad. Went home y'day & searched thru all my files, so that I cd upload the data on varahamihira today. I must have chucked off that paper which had those details, as: a) a month after that date, I chanced Gurudev's message that only the cord-cut time is relevant, & b)given my clutter-nature of life, I have an equally compelling (compensatory) obsession to chuck things I dont require. I have the cut-cord time of course, to the second, if of any consolatory use (it is 9h 48m 28s am on June 10, 2001 at Bombay= aka Mumbai= 72e50, 18n58, 5/30 E of GMT). And I have fortunately retained that data only because I made the chart on Jhoral (tho not read: see later). Quite sad, as all 4 times were within minutes of each other, & recorded exact to the second by the anaesthetist on my request. And that I cd do this only b'cos the docs were my wife's colleagues. For most other people, they wd find it difficult to record for their children, esp in India, where the husband is not allowed in the OT unlike abroad where for natural births, it is compulsory. Aaaargh! Sorry. We have lost some potential research input, which is ALSO very difficult to get. Abt why not read child's chart: the first few yrs are supposed to be due to karma of parents. More than all that, more practically: parents' ideas abt their children get formed in the early yrs, & subtly cd affet our behaviour. And we parents r not super-human-devatas. Eg i cdnt help note the KSY in my elder child's (son) chart (5 yrs old now), when I read it last yr. My behaviour towards him cd have been subtly affected in some way (maybe more protective, maybe some feeling of having been cheated, .... God knows what all has gone thru my subconscious in knowing my son's chart, tho read by me only recently after his 4th yr age....) in his growing up yrs (i also have KAY). It affects one's unbiased behaviour, somehow, which is not good, in the initial yrs. Who knows, I may be tempted to see it when she is 5. Of course, there is no cut off date to when u can see your child's chart, & in India, most people do it immediately after birth. This is NOT some aphorism that I know of. It is just MY personal feeling. Sorry Nandan --- Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: > Dear Nandan, > > For the sake of checking my ayanamsa calculations, would you please > send > me the timings of your daughter? > > >However, my daughter is only 9 months old currently. And hence, > while u > >r free to ask me anything about her, pl DO NOT send me any > predictions > >(as parents are enjoined not to know their such a young child's > chart, > >tho we can surely study it for balarishta, etc, whatever) > > Why do you say that parents are not supposed to know the chart of > their > young child? Is it then forbidden to know anything about his/her > personality? Of course, I do understand it may be very painful to > find out > if there's balarista or so, but if not, what is the harm? And from > what > age do you see it proper to have the child's chart made? I'm in > wonder > that you would not have had a look into your daughter's chart > yourself? > Speeking for myself, I would be curious! Of course, I understand it > may > harm the parental mood if the child is still so small... > > Wishing you well, > Dhira Krsna ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:30:53 -0000 "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 Re: Re:Women-cancer Would someome please send this on again? I am on my portable now - travelling - and dont have this email with me anymore. Thanks, Nimmi - vanam satish vedic astrology Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:46 PM [vedic astrology] Re:Women-cancer Nimmi, could u please forward again the mail regarding women and cancer. V Satish satishvanam ---------- -- Get Your Private, Free E-mail at Mailmetoday.com http://mailmetoday.com Sponsor ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:55:55 -0000 "vijayuma" <vijayuma Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi and all any feedback on the chart below is appreciated DOB: april 27 1968 Time of birth: 17:42 +5:30 East of GMT Lat 10N22 Long 78E51 vedic astrology, "vijayuma" <vijayuma> wrote: > Hi Nimmi, > > Though she has done post graduation She worked only for a breif period > in 1992 (3 to 5 months) after that she got married and the marraige > did not last even few months and the husband went absconding. She > wanted to get divorce and could not since they were not able to find > the husband and laws are strange in India in this aspect. So in 2001 > they found the husband and recovered half of large amount of dowry > given during marraige from him. But divorce proceeding are being > filed as i am speaking in the mean time she also got a very small job > in starting of 2001 and has started earning a little bit nothing > dramatic but there are future prospects in the present private law > firm she is working. > > -Siva > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Hi > > > > The concentration of planets in the 6th and 7th - a great deal of > energy is > > being expended on relationships with 4 planets there. But then > venus in the > > 6th is afflicted by saturn and rahu as well. > > > > But there are strange things going on with her co-workers with > saturn and > > rahu in the 6th. Did she have any relationships with some very > strange > > people there? > > > > There are strong financial yogas too in the 7th with 2nd lord, 9th > lord, > > 11th lord combined and also chandra-mangal which tends to augment > such > > financial yogas. > > > > I think she could make money either through a relationship or > working for an > > independent company. Did anything like that happen since 1988? > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > "vijayuma" <vijayuma> > > <vedic astrology> > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:29 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > I have a similar chart with Venus the AK exalted in 6th house in > Rasi > > > and is exalted in many divisional charts as well, but the > peculiarity > > > of this chart is it also has KSY on 6/12. > > > > > > This native has suffered a lot in life in relationship which was > > > explained by the amavasya moon in 7th. She also has not yet > clicked > > > in career. She is not that spiritual also, but people tend to > give a > > > prediction towards sage like figure. > > > > > > Any comments on this chart. > > > > > > DOB: april 27 1968 > > > Time of birth: 17:42 +5:30 East of GMT > > > Lat 10N22 Long 78E51 > > > > > > -Siva > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the father.And yes, > he > > > tends to > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But people > tend > > > to > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for egoistic > reasons. > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would say he > has > > > always > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of effort > on > > > his part. > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses and > enemies. > > > I think > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are benefics. > > > However the > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the opportunity > to > > > move to a > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It gave him > > > property > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some problems > at > > > the work > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while and could > not > > > meet its > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter-Venus, where > > > you would > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had to keep > > > working very > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time he > > > travelled a lot > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his company. > But he > > > has > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more successful > than > > > I am in > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 points > in > > > my lagna > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the 12th > > > combust and his > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also exalted in a > > > kendra, > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think graha > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate results. My > > > brother who has > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 in the > 10th. > > > But he > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc with all > the > > > right > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check chartx.jhd I > sent > > > earlier > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > - > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO many > exalted > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the fact that > > > there > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak points too. > > > Jupiter > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus his > strength > > > is > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the fact that > > > venus is > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is exalted!!. It is > > > not my > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > difficulties for > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good amount > of > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great upachaya > sthana > > > and > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. thus > this > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked to be. > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart shows > that he > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or fought > with > > > boss > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there is a > > > technique > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets and on > this > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > debilitated > > > in > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary when going > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > experts in > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > <106350.3660@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened with > JHL - > > > > > this was > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, it > seems to > > > do > > > > > quite > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be time, > place > > > and > > > > > date > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some strange > > > numbers > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 11 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:16:46 +0530 nagrani.rakesh Do they match.. Dear All, I am attaching the bmp files of the horos of both the boy and the girl in zipped format. Please tell me whether the match is suitable.. and the implications etc.. Thanks in advance.. <<h>> Thanks and Regards, Rakesh S Nagrani CAE group ( R&D Department ), Mahindra & Mahindra (Auto. Sector), Nasik. Phone: +91-253-808152 / 808136 Email : nagrani.rakesh ---DISCLAIMER---------------- The contents of this E-mail (including the contents of the enclosure/(s) or attachment/(s) if any) are privileged and confidential material of Mahindra and Mahindra Limited (M&M) and should not be disclosed to, used by or copied in any manner by anyone other than the intended addressee/(s). If this E-mail (including the enclosure/(s) or attachment/(s) if any ) has been received in error, please advise the sender immediately and delete it from your system. The views expressed in this E-mail message (including the enclosure/(s) or attachment/(s) if any) are those of the individual sender. ----------------------------- [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 12 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:18:38 -0800 "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip Re: Sorry Re: Exact 3 birthtimes Hare Rama Krsna ---------------------- Namaste Nandan Babu and Dhira Krsna Das Prabhu, About why the destiny is not usually seen before the attainment of 12 years 0f age of a child , is the fact that longevity assessment ( other than seeing Balarista), should not be done in a child before 12 years of age. There are two Slokas in Phaladeepika in this regard, that say: 1. In the case of human beings, it is not possible to determine the longevity of a child within the first 12 years of life. Even if the nativity shows good longevity, the child meets his death owing to the sins of the parents.( CH-13, SL -3) 2. If the child dies within first 4 years, it is due to the mother's sins. Death taking place between 4 to 8 years is due to the sins of the father. If death takes place between 8 to 12 years, it is due to the native's own sins in the previous births. (CH-13, SL-4). With Regards Dilip Banerjee. - Nandan Chakraborty Dhira Krsna BCS Cc: vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; sjvc Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:46 PM [vedic astrology] Sorry Re: Exact 3 birthtimes Dear Dhira Krsna Ref: Exact record of birth time(s) of daughter: a) 1st incision, b) head out, c) 1st cry, d) cord-cut: As you are the Nth person who sent me a personal mail on this & I have had to write a disappointing reply to, I am also ccing this to the 3 Lists Very sad. Went home y'day & searched thru all my files, so that I cd upload the data on varahamihira today. I must have chucked off that paper which had those details, as: a) a month after that date, I chanced Gurudev's message that only the cord-cut time is relevant, & b)given my clutter-nature of life, I have an equally compelling (compensatory) obsession to chuck things I dont require. I have the cut-cord time of course, to the second, if of any consolatory use (it is 9h 48m 28s am on June 10, 2001 at Bombay= aka Mumbai= 72e50, 18n58, 5/30 E of GMT). And I have fortunately retained that data only because I made the chart on Jhoral (tho not read: see later). Quite sad, as all 4 times were within minutes of each other, & recorded exact to the second by the anaesthetist on my request. And that I cd do this only b'cos the docs were my wife's colleagues. For most other people, they wd find it difficult to record for their children, esp in India, where the husband is not allowed in the OT unlike abroad where for natural births, it is compulsory. Aaaargh! Sorry. We have lost some potential research input, which is ALSO very difficult to get. Abt why not read child's chart: the first few yrs are supposed to be due to karma of parents. More than all that, more practically: parents' ideas abt their children get formed in the early yrs, & subtly cd affet our behaviour. And we parents r not super-human-devatas. Eg i cdnt help note the KSY in my elder child's (son) chart (5 yrs old now), when I read it last yr. My behaviour towards him cd have been subtly affected in some way (maybe more protective, maybe some feeling of having been cheated, .... God knows what all has gone thru my subconscious in knowing my son's chart, tho read by me only recently after his 4th yr age....) in his growing up yrs (i also have KAY). It affects one's unbiased behaviour, somehow, which is not good, in the initial yrs. Who knows, I may be tempted to see it when she is 5. Of course, there is no cut off date to when u can see your child's chart, & in India, most people do it immediately after birth. This is NOT some aphorism that I know of. It is just MY personal feeling. Sorry Nandan --- Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: > Dear Nandan, > > For the sake of checking my ayanamsa calculations, would you please > send > me the timings of your daughter? > > >However, my daughter is only 9 months old currently. And hence, > while u > >r free to ask me anything about her, pl DO NOT send me any > predictions > >(as parents are enjoined not to know their such a young child's > chart, > >tho we can surely study it for balarishta, etc, whatever) > > Why do you say that parents are not supposed to know the chart of > their > young child? Is it then forbidden to know anything about his/her > personality? Of course, I do understand it may be very painful to > find out > if there's balarista or so, but if not, what is the harm? And from > what > age do you see it proper to have the child's chart made? I'm in > wonder > that you would not have had a look into your daughter's chart > yourself? > Speeking for myself, I would be curious! Of course, I understand it > may > harm the parental mood if the child is still so small... > > Wishing you well, > Dhira Krsna ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. Sponsor ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 13 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:02:22 +0530 "S.Gopal" <egs Re: Fw: Paget - Little-known form of breast cancer someone wanted the mail on women and cancer. Here is the messge/mail forwarded for the benefit of one and all EG - Nimmi Ragavan Wayne Frost ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology ; Usha Pillai-McGarry ; Tim Webley ; Suroo Wickramaratna ; Sharmini Weerasinghe ; Sbell2 ; Shan Haines ; Sara Trefz ; rosa.mimoso ; ribbott ; Prof. Sunethra Weerakoon ; Pri Fernando ; Pinder Ryait ; Nicole Dupin ; NADARAJATHMRAI KUGENTHIRAN ; mjoshua ; Michael Burgun ; Michelle Button ; mbhavanit ; Marsha Parker ; Lyn Jones ; Lars Norberg ; kittwake ; khosker ; Kay Temple-Smith ; Kay Mansell ; Karen James ; Kafiya Mallak ; Jperumalpillaies ; joh ; Jeeva Chapman ; Heather.Pickford ; Heather At BT ; Hanna Newman ; Gary Key ; Daniel Frost ; christabel selvadorai ; Chris Frost ; Abigail Beavan ; Brian Lord ; Bhavani Thuraisingham ; Anna Frost Monday, March 04, 2002 2:55 PM [vedic astrology] Fw: Paget - Little-known form of breast cancer Hopefully no one will ever need to use this information, but just to be safe... - David. Brown Alnoor Virji ; Alyssa Morrison ; Anil Kapur ; Anne & Jim Bennett ; Anne Yarr @ Yarr Books ; Arnold Lemke ; Arryn Brown ; Art Gartner ; Aurora Rooke ; Barb Lohrmann ; Barry Kennedy @ home ; Ben Kashani ; Bier, David A ; Bill Leggott ; Bjorn Andersson ; Bobby Caingles ; Brad Richie ; Bruce Batchelor ; Bruce Holland ; Caryl-Louise Robinson ; Charles Wolfe ; Claudia Avoledo ; Cliff McLean ; Craig Johnson ; Dave Cowie ; 'David Elyk' ; DB - David Wm Brown ; Derek Bourque ; Derek Hopkins ; DF Dion Brown ; DL-Dion's Latest ; Donna Beeston ; Donna Savard ; Dora Roper ; Doris and Don McLaughlin ; Elaine Kashani ; Elizabeth Woodworth ; Ernie & Kee Tip Abbott ; Floyd Bird, CCP ; Gail Egers ; GD Diane Bessey and Geoffrey Walsh ; GH - Gord Hooker ; Graham Whitehead ; Greg Rochon ; Harold Elliot ; Henry Victor ; Ian Cowie ; Ian Stark ; Irene Ng ; Jamie Dick ; Janice Tomka ; Jason Underwood ; Jean Rieckmann ; Jenn Miller ; Joanna Maningas ; Joanne M Miller ; Joanne Miller ; John Boyle ; John Boyle@home ; John Victor ; Monday, March 04, 2002 5:03 AM Paget - Little-known form of breast cancer This was sent to me by my friend Meliza Myrick. I've added more at the end, including some web sites. Please read and forward. David. Ladies PLEASE take the time to read the following message. It is a new form of breast cancer that we should all be aware of! I hope you will forward this to all of your female friends. In November, I lost my sister to a rare kind of breast cancer. She developed a rash on her breast, similar to that of young mothers who are nursing. Because her mammogram had been clear, the doctor treated her with antibiotics for infections. After 2 rounds and it continued to get worse, her doctor sent her for another mammogram, and this time it showed a mass. A biopsy found a fast growing malignancy. Chemo was started in order to shrink the growth; then mastectomy; then a full round of chemo; then radiation. After about 9 months of intense treatment, she was given a clean bill of health. One year of living each day to its fullest - then it returned to the liver area. She took 4 treatments and decided that she wanted quality of life not the after effects of chemo. We had 5 great months and she planned each detail of the final days. After just a few days of needing morphine, she slipped away saying she had done what God had sent her into the world to do and now it was her time to go. I still have tears as I write, but her message is shown below. And PLEASE be alert to any thing that is not normal and be persistent in getting help as soon as possible. RARE FORM OF BREAST CANCER - PAGET's DISEASE { from Juanita Bush } This is a rare form of breast cancer and is on the outside of the breast, on the nipple and aureole. It appeared as a rash which later became a lesion with a crusty outer edge. I would not have ever suspected it to be breast cancer but it was. My nipple never seemed any different to me but the rash bothered me, so I went to the doctor for that. Sometimes it itched and was sore, but other than that it didn't bother me. It was just ugly and a nuisance and could not be cleared up with all the creams prescribed by my doctor and dermatologist for the dermatitis on my eyes just prior to this outbreak. They seemed a little concerned but did not warn me it could be cancerous. Now I suspect there are not many women out there who know a lesion or rash on the nipple or aureole can be breast cancer. Mine started out as a single red pimple on the aureole. One of the biggest problems with Paget's disease of the nipple is that the symptoms appear to be harmless. It is frequently thought to be a skin inflammation or infection, leading to unfortunate delays in detection and care. What are the symptoms? The symptoms include : (1) A persistent redness, oozing, and crusting of your nipple causing it to itch and Burn. (As I stated, mine did not itch or burn much, and had no oozing I was aware of, but it did have a crust along the outer edge on one side). (2) A sore on your nipple that will not heal. (Mine was on the aureole area with a whitish thick looking area in center of nipple). (3) Usually only one nipple is affected. How is it diagnosed? Your doctor will do a physical exam and should suggest having a mammogram of both breasts, done immediately. Even though the redness, oozing and crusting closely resemble dermatitis (inflammation of the skin), your doctor should suspect cancer if the sore is only on one breast. Your doctor should order a biopsy of your sore to confirm what is going on. They will take a sample of your breast tissue in that area to test for cancer. If the cancer is only in the nipple and not in the breast, your doctor may recommend just removing the nipple and surrounding tissue or suggest radiation treatments. Had my doctor caught mine right away instead of flaking it off as dermatitis, perhaps they could have saved my breast and it wouldn't have gone to my lymph nodes. This message should be taken seriously and passed on to as many of your friends as possible; it could save someone's life. My breast cancer has spread and metastasized to my bones after receiving mega doses of chemotherapy, 28 treatments of radiation and taking tamaxofin. If this had been diagnosed as breast cancer in the beginning, perhaps it would not have spread. TO ALL READERS : This is sad as women are not aware of Paget's disease. If by passing this around on the e-mail we can make others aware of it and its potential danger, we are helping women everywhere. Please if you can, take a moment to forward this message to as many people as possible especially to your family and friends. It only takes a moment - yet the results could save a life! _________ I found some references - URLs are at the end of this message. This is from http://www.longerliving.com/paget.htm Paget's Disease: A rare form of breast cancer By Laura Ruth, Ph.D. Currently Paget's disease can be classified as mammary Paget's disease (MPD), which affects the breast nipple, and extramammary Paget's disease (EMPD), which can affect the vulva, perineum, penis, scrotum, anorectal tissues, urethra, or cutaneous adnexal glands, as well as umbilical, presternal, eyelids, and external ear canal skin. INCIDENCE Paget's disease of the breast is a rare disease which affects 3-5% of all mammary abnormalities. 1-4% of female patients with breast cancer develop MPD. Of the 1% reported male malignant breast cancer, 7.4 - 10.6% of the male patients with breast cancer (fifty-six cases total) are reported to have MPD. DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT Paget's disease affects groups ranging from forty to eighty years, with an average age of sixty years. In females, the average delay between the onset of clinical symptoms and deciding on treatment averages twelve to fourteen months, while in males the average delay between detection and treatment is eight years. Both types of Paget's disease can represent an extension of a carcinoma under the skin or in the case of EMPD Paget's disease, an intraepithelial adenocarcinoma from the basal layer of skin. The clinician-pathologist Sir James Paget first reported Paget's disease in 1874 by describing fifteen women with eczema around their nipples associated with breast cancer. In both MPD and EMPD the affected skin presents as red and scaly plaques. The underlying nodules may surface, become crusted, exudative, very hard, itchy, ulcerative, and can bleed. The Paget's growth is slow-growing and may become painful. Paget's disease can also metastasize to the lymph nodes. Diagnosis of MPD and EMPD can be difficult because not all patients have clinical symptoms or the disease is in an early stage (i.e. there are no surface skin markers, such as redness, scaling or crusting, or the redness can be mistaken for a skin problem, such as dermatitis.) Topical steroids, however, will not ameliorate the "dermatitis". Although it is rare according to Dr. Sabine Kohler of the Laboratory of Surgical Pathology at Stanford University Medical Center , Paget's disease of the breast can be misdiagnosed as intraepithelial squamous cell cancer (Bowen's disease), superficial spreading basal cell carcinoma, and malignant melanoma. The disease is definitively diagnosed by a biopsy followed by histological methods, which stain and identify the malignant Paget cells. Treatment of a definitively diagnosed case of Paget's disease will depend on the stage of the cancer. For example, if the area of skin affected is limited in MPD, removal of the affected nipple may be adequate treatment. If the carcinoma is more advanced, a modified or radical mastectomy with ipsilateral axillary lymph node dissection, postoperative irradiation, and/or chemotherapy may be advisable methods of treatment. Posted September 1999 -- http://www.paget.org/ http://www.paget.org/index.asp?p=Information%2Fbreast%5Ffr%5Fbottom%2Easp%23 patients http://www.paget.org.uk/ http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/896_pag.html _ David William Brown. Author, "An Introduction to Object-Oriented Analysis, Objects and UML in Plain English" www.wiley.com http://jws-edcv.wiley.com/college/tlp/0,9842,BUSC-ISC-IS41C_0471371378_BKS,0 0.html Sponsor [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 14 Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:22:44 +0300 "hosabbettu ramadas rao" <ramadasrao Re: Vedic remedies OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namasthe Anjaneyaji and Sanjayaji, You wrote that from Karakamsha 12th house if no planet occupies and if he is in karakamsha ,then one has to worship the God representing Atmakaraka.Now please go through my chart for your further analysis regarding this.My Lagna is Makara and Rasi also Makara and Janma Nakshatra is Dhanishta 2nd charana.My atmakaraka is Chandra placed in Kanya Navamsha with Soorya,12th lord from Karakamsha aspected by Guru from Meena who is Vargothamamsha.In Ashtaka Varga ,in Rashi chart My lagna has 40 Bindus in Sarvashtaka Varga.I am a worshipper of Lord Krishna and also I worship Lord Soorya. Further analysis is given to you all. Thanking you all, With best regards, Ramadas Rao. - anjaneya11 Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:29 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Vedic remedies Hare Rama Krsna Dear Dhira Krsna Prabhu I shall like to answer your queries on behalf of Gurudev. My answers are hereunder in capitals... Om Krsna Guru. Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Aim gurave namah. Thank you very much for your enlightening words and advise. I'll convey your advise to the mother. I also have a few questions, which I would pray you to answer: 1) >His return to this planet is caused by Surya dosha which is not >only the Atmakaraka but also the Ista devata - a combination showing >great spirituality If Ista devata is seen from the 12th from karakamsha, how can it be at the same time AK? Or did you follow another calculation? KARAKAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA OCCUPIED BY THE ATMAKARAKA. IF THE 12TH FROM THE ATMAKARAKA IS VACANT AND THE LORD HAPPENS TO BE THE ATMAKARAKA HIMSELF, THEN THE ISTA AND THE AK ARE ONE AND THE SAME. OBVIOUSLY THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IF SOME PLANET IS PLACED IN THE 12TH FROM AK. IN SUCH CASE THE PERSON HIMSELF BECOMES HIS ISTA. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT THE PERSON IS A VERY EVOLVED SOUL, AKIN TO GOD HIMSELF. HOWEVER IF SOME OTHER PLANET CONJOIN THE ISTA PLANET, THE CONJOINING PLANET BECOMES THE ISTA AND THERE SHALL BE TRANSFER OF POWER FROM THE AK TO THE CONJOINING PLANET. IF MANY PLANETS CONJOIN THE AK, THEN THE STRONGEST BECOMES THE ISTA. 2) >From the Paka Lagna & Atmakaraka, Rahu and Moon occupy the 8th >house..you know the implications of this I REQUEST GURUDEV TO EXPAND ON THIS. Yes, this forms Balarista. Do you mean the child will die in early childhood? And a few general questions: 3) Someone told me that in the chart of conception of a child, the Moon's position will show the lagna at birth. Is this a valid theory? I tried my own conception chart and it indeed looks to be accurate. IN THE CONCEPTION CHART, THE MOON SHALL BE PLACED IN THE KENDRA FROM THE NATAL MOON AND THE CONCEPTION LAGNA SHALL BE 7TH FROM THE NATAL LAGNA. THUS MOON'S POSITION CAN SHOW LAGNA AT BIRTH ONLY WHEN NATAL MOON IS PLACED IN KENDRA TO THE NATAL LAGNA AND CONCEPTION LAGNA IS PLACED IN THE 7TH FROM THE CONCEPTION MOON. 4) How do the gotras be appointed in the chart? Are there different methods? I learned about the gotra being appointed according to the naksatra dispositor of lagna in the rasi chart. Again, this seems to be accurate in my family line. YOU CAN LEARN THE GOTRA ASSIGNMENT FROM THE PRASNA MARHA VOL II, BV RAMAN ON THE ADHYAYA ON MARRIAGE COMPATIBILITY. Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa REGARDS ANJANEYA ---------------- This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com Take the shortest route to success! Click here to know how http://education.sify.com Get more from the Web. 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