Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 dear visti you are very brilliant and you know how to use arudhas. i was mentioning for those people who have not done enough research in arudha concept and do not have understanding of arudhas in their analysis. i know that you are quoting from classics. i know you since ages and i suppose you remembered me after a long time(hearty laughs). Any way keep up the good work. by the way we can predict the same things such as multiple marriages and extra marital relations through the basic rashi chart itself. I always use satyapeetha(lagna) and 7th house, venus postion, mars and rahu for marriage analysis. you use arudha . thus keep using them. it is all matter of convinience and comfort levels. i am getting good results without using arudhas much. regards partha vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ----------------- > Dear Partha and List, > > Its not hard to predict, nor understand the Arudha Concept of marriage. But > yes..if you don't know, then you cannot live to tell. > > Lets try to understand the concept of marriage, in astrology. > The person meets the spouse, sometimes without anticipation of marriage, and > then later on they may decide to marry. > > Now this is where alot of dicussion has been held, regarding the timing of > marriage. How to differ between the physical union and the marital union? > > Actually this is where Arudhas comes in. > Lets adress a concern first; > > "Why the Arudha of 12th house? Why not the Arudha of 7th house?" > > The Darapada (A7) shows all the people we associate with. Their qualities(in > the sence of maya) and etc. Among these people we meet, we will meet our > spouse. > > Now Upapada (A12/UL), shows the people we share our bed with, and hence the > person we meet(A7) becomes our spouse(UL). Thats why some people say that > the spouse changes after marriage. > > Ok now we can continue; > "Whats the difference between the Physical union and the Marital union?" > > The Difference is that, once the pair meets each other, they spend time > together, and only later on figure out whether they will marry or not. > Only later on do they marry. > > The Upapada will then show the actual marriage, where the world considers > them as a couple. > > "In some cases the couple do not meet until marriage? How to decide this?" > > Well the Upapada will show, all the maya related with the actual marriage, > hence also whether the marriage origined from love(own decission) or was > fixed(others decission). > > Generally, if the Upapada is associated with Darapada, Venus or Mars then > the marriage maybe a love-marriage. Theres more to this. > > If however Darapada associates with the 2nd from Upapada, then the people > one meets(extra marital relations) may cause trouble or break the marriage. > > Hence Upapada itself shows the marriage, whilst the 2nd from it shows the > sustenance/troubles of marriage. > > If too many malefics associate with Upapada, then the marriage may not > happen at all. Especially if theres no benefic intervention. Sun is a > benefic for marriage, as its Dharma Karaka. Keep in mind that i'm only > referring to Natural Malefics/Benefics. > > If the lord of Upapada is weak/afflicted(see both rasi and navamsa), then > again the marriage might not happen. Or in some cases, the marriage may > happen but will end after a very short period. Usually it results in an > annulment of the marriage. > > I and others on this list, have covered this topic so many times before, and > also the other concepts, such as; Origin of spouse, Timing of marriage, etc. > > Keep in mind that the 7th house, shouldn't be ignorred, i refer to classics, > such as Bphs and Brihat Jataka-Varahamihira, for a more thorough > understanding of the 7th house. > > I refer to; > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, Chapter on Arudhas. > Jaimini Upadesa Sutras. > Brihat Jataka. > Crux of Vedic Astrology - Sanjy Rath. > Vedic Remedies in Astrology - Sanjay Rath. > Narayana Dasa - Sanjay Rath. > http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/upapada.htm > http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/marriage1.htm > http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/marriage.htm > > Only after a very thorough examination of the following will you be able to > predict about marriage acurately. Those who are members of SJVC, have a > clear advantage, due to the many discussions regarding the same. > > "Do not touch the pen, unless you have something to write." > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > partvinu5 > vedic astrology > Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:38 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Arudha Lagna -dear prashant and list..... > > > dear prashant > See it is very difficult to predict first marriage, extra marital > affairs et al through arudha concept. If a person has learnt his > astrology and explored and researched the concepts of arudha he can > explain the extra-relations. But i would give you my analogy of this > whole episode > > See the 7th lord for marriage, see the presence of venus for multiple > marriages. > 7th lord , venus in dwiswabhava rasis indicates multiple marriages. > > 7th house afflictions give extra marital affairs. Mercury in 17th > degree of scorpio and presence of malefics(rahu mars) in 8th house > give the native such tendencies. This is the simple way of looking at > it.venus in 7th , sun in 7th, mars in 7th are aslo indicative of such > tendencies. > > Venus if afflicted by mars gives srong tendencies for multiple > relations, venus with rahu you can guess what will be the case. > > The strength of lagna lord and 7th lord indicate how long the > marriage would last. Multiple relations is the result of loose > morals. i cannot see how we can use arudha for that . > > navamsa is the best indicator for marriage and multiple > relations.navamsa is the chart of dharma and also is widely used for > marriage matching. if you have further doubts then feel free to ask > me. i would always give you simple answers. > > regards > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Prashant! > > > > Not very easy to answer your query and multiple indications are to > be seen > > to judge such issues.Some of the cases when the relationship is > not long > > drawn we dont to to the next upapada for subsequent relationship. > More can > > be known by analysing the kind of relationship that is shown by AL > and UL > > and judge whether we go for the next UL when there is one more > > relationship.In many cases even if the marriage is solemnised > however > > sustained for a very short time, we might not switch to the next > UL. > > > > In such cases I depend on my intuition to guide me. I don't have a > definite > > answer!!!! I depend on some more indications.... > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > > - > > "acharpastrology" <acharpastrology> > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:34 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Arudha Lagna and Upapada........ > > > > > > > Dear Sarajit, > > > > > > Point well taken. What happens when the first relationship is long > > > drawn but doesn't get solemninsed? Do we reference on UL2 for the > > > marriage we takes place subsequently with another? Also, what > happens > > > when two relationships exists side by side, one marital & the > other > > > extra-marital? Is there a risk of wrong prediction in these cases? > > > Thanks - Prashanth > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Nimmi! > > > > > > > > Some points to ponder. The UL shows the first marriage, the 2nd > UL > > > will be > > > > in the 8th from the 1st UL. The first marriage is shown by the > 1st > > > UL > > > > whereas the 2nd is shown by the 2nd UL and so on.... > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:30 AM > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Arudha Lagna and Upapada........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > I have the AL and UL together in Pisces. It is true that I > and my > > > current > > > > > partner are pretty inseparable. However, this was not true in > my > > > first > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > - > > > > > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Friday, December 21, 2001 12:29 PM > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Arudha Lagna and > Upapada........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > Dear Chandru, > > > > > > When Arudha Lagna and Upapada fall in the same house, > > > > > > the couple is bound to be percieved very alike. This > > > > > > is because the two spend so much time together, in > > > > > > such a case, and are almost imseperable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Chandru Vasandani <chandruvasandani> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand Upapada(Arudha of 12th) determines > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nature and qualities of Spouse. Whereas Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > indicates how the native himself is perceived by > > > > > > > others. My question is what if both AL & UL fall in > > > > > > > the same house. Can we say in this case that native > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > spouse will have few similarties in terms of nature > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > any other qualities. Please comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandru Vasandani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send your holiday cheer with > > > > > > > http://greetings..ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of > > > > > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > > > > > > or bid at http://auctions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.