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dear visti

you are very brilliant and you know how to use arudhas. i was

mentioning for those people who have not done enough research in

arudha concept and do not have understanding of arudhas in their

analysis. i know that you are quoting from classics. i know you since

ages and i suppose you remembered me after a long time(hearty

laughs). Any way keep up the good work. by the way we can predict the

same things such as multiple marriages and extra marital relations

through the basic rashi chart itself. I always use satyapeetha(lagna)

and 7th house, venus postion, mars and rahu for marriage analysis.

you use arudha . thus keep using them. it is all matter of

convinience and comfort levels. i am getting good results without

using arudhas much.

regards

partha

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> -----------------

> Dear Partha and List,

>

> Its not hard to predict, nor understand the Arudha Concept of

marriage. But

> yes..if you don't know, then you cannot live to tell.

>

> Lets try to understand the concept of marriage, in astrology.

> The person meets the spouse, sometimes without anticipation of

marriage, and

> then later on they may decide to marry.

>

> Now this is where alot of dicussion has been held, regarding the

timing of

> marriage. How to differ between the physical union and the marital

union?

>

> Actually this is where Arudhas comes in.

> Lets adress a concern first;

>

> "Why the Arudha of 12th house? Why not the Arudha of 7th house?"

>

> The Darapada (A7) shows all the people we associate with. Their

qualities(in

> the sence of maya) and etc. Among these people we meet, we will

meet our

> spouse.

>

> Now Upapada (A12/UL), shows the people we share our bed with, and

hence the

> person we meet(A7) becomes our spouse(UL). Thats why some people

say that

> the spouse changes after marriage.

>

> Ok now we can continue;

> "Whats the difference between the Physical union and the Marital

union?"

>

> The Difference is that, once the pair meets each other, they spend

time

> together, and only later on figure out whether they will marry or

not.

> Only later on do they marry.

>

> The Upapada will then show the actual marriage, where the world

considers

> them as a couple.

>

> "In some cases the couple do not meet until marriage? How to decide

this?"

>

> Well the Upapada will show, all the maya related with the actual

marriage,

> hence also whether the marriage origined from love(own decission)

or was

> fixed(others decission).

>

> Generally, if the Upapada is associated with Darapada, Venus or

Mars then

> the marriage maybe a love-marriage. Theres more to this.

>

> If however Darapada associates with the 2nd from Upapada, then the

people

> one meets(extra marital relations) may cause trouble or break the

marriage.

>

> Hence Upapada itself shows the marriage, whilst the 2nd from it

shows the

> sustenance/troubles of marriage.

>

> If too many malefics associate with Upapada, then the marriage may

not

> happen at all. Especially if theres no benefic intervention. Sun is

a

> benefic for marriage, as its Dharma Karaka. Keep in mind that i'm

only

> referring to Natural Malefics/Benefics.

>

> If the lord of Upapada is weak/afflicted(see both rasi and

navamsa), then

> again the marriage might not happen. Or in some cases, the marriage

may

> happen but will end after a very short period. Usually it results

in an

> annulment of the marriage.

>

> I and others on this list, have covered this topic so many times

before, and

> also the other concepts, such as; Origin of spouse, Timing of

marriage, etc.

>

> Keep in mind that the 7th house, shouldn't be ignorred, i refer to

classics,

> such as Bphs and Brihat Jataka-Varahamihira, for a more thorough

> understanding of the 7th house.

>

> I refer to;

> Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, Chapter on Arudhas.

> Jaimini Upadesa Sutras.

> Brihat Jataka.

> Crux of Vedic Astrology - Sanjy Rath.

> Vedic Remedies in Astrology - Sanjay Rath.

> Narayana Dasa - Sanjay Rath.

> http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/upapada.htm

> http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/marriage1.htm

> http://www.sjvc.org/Articles/marriage.htm

>

> Only after a very thorough examination of the following will you be

able to

> predict about marriage acurately. Those who are members of SJVC,

have a

> clear advantage, due to the many discussions regarding the same.

>

> "Do not touch the pen, unless you have something to write."

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> -

> partvinu5

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:38 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Arudha Lagna -dear prashant and

list.....

>

>

> dear prashant

> See it is very difficult to predict first marriage, extra marital

> affairs et al through arudha concept. If a person has learnt his

> astrology and explored and researched the concepts of arudha he

can

> explain the extra-relations. But i would give you my analogy of

this

> whole episode

>

> See the 7th lord for marriage, see the presence of venus for

multiple

> marriages.

> 7th lord , venus in dwiswabhava rasis indicates multiple

marriages.

>

> 7th house afflictions give extra marital affairs. Mercury in 17th

> degree of scorpio and presence of malefics(rahu mars) in 8th house

> give the native such tendencies. This is the simple way of

looking at

> it.venus in 7th , sun in 7th, mars in 7th are aslo indicative of

such

> tendencies.

>

> Venus if afflicted by mars gives srong tendencies for multiple

> relations, venus with rahu you can guess what will be the case.

>

> The strength of lagna lord and 7th lord indicate how long the

> marriage would last. Multiple relations is the result of loose

> morals. i cannot see how we can use arudha for that .

>

> navamsa is the best indicator for marriage and multiple

> relations.navamsa is the chart of dharma and also is widely used

for

> marriage matching. if you have further doubts then feel free to

ask

> me. i would always give you simple answers.

>

> regards

> partha

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Prashant!

> >

> > Not very easy to answer your query and multiple indications are

to

> be seen

> > to judge such issues.Some of the cases when the relationship is

> not long

> > drawn we dont to to the next upapada for subsequent

relationship.

> More can

> > be known by analysing the kind of relationship that is shown by

AL

> and UL

> > and judge whether we go for the next UL when there is one more

> > relationship.In many cases even if the marriage is solemnised

> however

> > sustained for a very short time, we might not switch to the

next

> UL.

> >

> > In such cases I depend on my intuition to guide me. I don't

have a

> definite

> > answer!!!! I depend on some more indications....

> >

> > Regards

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> > -

> > "acharpastrology" <acharpastrology>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:34 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Arudha Lagna and Upapada........

> >

> >

> > > Dear Sarajit,

> > >

> > > Point well taken. What happens when the first relationship is

long

> > > drawn but doesn't get solemninsed? Do we reference on UL2 for

the

> > > marriage we takes place subsequently with another? Also, what

> happens

> > > when two relationships exists side by side, one marital & the

> other

> > > extra-marital? Is there a risk of wrong prediction in these

cases?

> > > Thanks - Prashanth

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...>

> wrote:

> > > > Dear Nimmi!

> > > >

> > > > Some points to ponder. The UL shows the first marriage, the

2nd

> UL

> > > will be

> > > > in the 8th from the 1st UL. The first marriage is shown by

the

> 1st

> > > UL

> > > > whereas the 2nd is shown by the 2nd UL and so on....

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sarajit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:30 AM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Arudha Lagna and

Upapada........

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have the AL and UL together in Pisces. It is true that I

> and my

> > > current

> > > > > partner are pretty inseparable. However, this was not

true in

> my

> > > first

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Nimmi

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Friday, December 21, 2001 12:29 PM

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Arudha Lagna and

> Upapada........

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > > > > > -------------------------------

> > > > > > Dear Chandru,

> > > > > > When Arudha Lagna and Upapada fall in the same house,

> > > > > > the couple is bound to be percieved very alike. This

> > > > > > is because the two spend so much time together, in

> > > > > > such a case, and are almost imseperable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Chandru Vasandani <chandruvasandani>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Hello All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As I understand Upapada(Arudha of 12th) determines

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > nature and qualities of Spouse. Whereas Arudha Lagna

> > > > > > > indicates how the native himself is perceived by

> > > > > > > others. My question is what if both AL & UL fall in

> > > > > > > the same house. Can we say in this case that native

> > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > spouse will have few similarties in terms of nature

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > any other qualities. Please comment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks Once again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chandru Vasandani

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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