Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

[Guest guest]

Dear LIst Members,

 

Ruchaka Yoga and other Mahapurusha Yogas like Bhadra, Hamsa, etc. are best

seen from the lagna, though a few sources of lesser authority take them from

the Moon as well, in my opinion, however they should only be taken from the

lagna. The planet forming the Mahapurusha YOga should be in an angle from

the lagna, though there is some information out there that state in an angle

or trine, though this is does not have any classical sanction that I am

aware of.

 

If the Mahapurusha Yoga forming planet is joined with the SUn or Moon the

Yoga is cancelled, so in Hitler's chart he did not have Ruchaka Yoga since

Mars is with the Moon. The Mahapurusha Yogas are not dasa dependent, they

indicate lifelong charactistics with which the native furhters themselves in

life with. Of course the dasa of a strong planet in an angle is generally a

promising dasa.

 

I submit the birth chart with the following details: March 11, 1954 12:41

PM, Richmond VA, 37n33, 77w28, EST +5.00

 

In this horoscope Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all fomring thier respective

Mahapurusha Yogas, Hamsa, Ruchaka, and Sasa. Saturn is with the Sun so the

Sasa yoga is innefective, Mars is with the Moon so the Ruchaka Yoga is also

innefictive. Jupiter alone is forming a Mahapurusha Yoga and it is the

qualities of the Hamsa Yoga that are most marked in the native.

 

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic-astrolology.net

 

 

-

"balaji srinivasan" <sri_balaji

<vedic astrology>

Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:03 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler

 

 

> Dear Partha,

>

> True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But

> Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna.

>

> Check the following site:

>

> http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm

>

> The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not

> knowing if that was appropriate.

>

> I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka

> yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'.

>

> Please note that I am not debating here. It is

> essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these

> clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that.

> After all, I didn't go through the source of these

> yogas as I read only translations.

>

> Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all

> goodness. It is important to have correct freewill.

>

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

>

> --- partvinu5 wrote:

> >

> > dear balaji

> > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga

> > is formed when

> > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or

> > in own house.

> > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot

> > qualify hitler to

> > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka

> > yoga is one of the

> > five pancha mahapurusha yogas.

> > namely

> > 1)sasa(saturn

> > 2)hamsa(jupiter

> > 3)malavya(venus

> > 4)ruchaka(mars

> > 5)bhadra(mercury

> > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri

> > B.V.Raman. he never

> > mentioned what you had said.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan

> > <sri_balaji>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Partha,

> > >

> > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.

> > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help

> > > him.

> > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny

> > that

> > > was violent.

> > >

> > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is

> > an

> > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is

> > Graha

> > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,

> > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative

> > trait

> > > of Mars.

> > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries

> > has

> > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such

> > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In every chart, there can be shades of

> > destruction.

> > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and

> > minimize

> > > these traits.

> > >

> > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am

> > not

> > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,

> > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this

> > title.

> > >

> > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind.

> > That

> > > is why they are not cared for by the true

> > spiritual

> > > aspirants.

> > >

> > >

> > > warm regards,

> > > Balaji S.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > > > dear balaji

> > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets

> > in

> > > > 7th house.

> > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in

> > 3rd

> > > > house. saturn is in

> > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he

> > > > didn't have ruchaka

> > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari

> > yoga.

> > > > coupled with the

> > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him

> > notorious

> > > > image. sun,

> > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him

> > > > psychological illness.

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > > http://personals.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

[Guest guest]

I have never read/heard about this criterion that you mention. Could you

please provide the source; thx.

 

As well, any thoughts from senior members would be welcome..... I

personally don't understand the logic here. Sun/Moon considered the Royal

planets should increase the effects of Mahapurusha even more so if Moon is

participating in Gajakesari yoga...... (But then again there are some

yogas the results of which seem to defy logic.....)

 

Best Regards,

 

SA

 

 

"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst on 11/01/2001 12:37:08 AM

 

Please respond to vedic astrology

 

<vedic astrology>

cc:

[vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

 

 

Dear LIst Members,

 

Ruchaka Yoga and other Mahapurusha Yogas like Bhadra, Hamsa, etc. are best

seen from the lagna, though a few sources of lesser authority take them

from

the Moon as well, in my opinion, however they should only be taken from the

lagna. The planet forming the Mahapurusha YOga should be in an angle from

the lagna, though there is some information out there that state in an

angle

or trine, though this is does not have any classical sanction that I am

aware of.

 

If the Mahapurusha Yoga forming planet is joined with the SUn or Moon the

Yoga is cancelled, so in Hitler's chart he did not have Ruchaka Yoga since

Mars is with the Moon. The Mahapurusha Yogas are not dasa dependent, they

indicate lifelong charactistics with which the native furhters themselves

in

life with. Of course the dasa of a strong planet in an angle is generally a

promising dasa.

 

I submit the birth chart with the following details: March 11, 1954 12:41

PM, Richmond VA, 37n33, 77w28, EST +5.00

 

In this horoscope Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all fomring thier respective

Mahapurusha Yogas, Hamsa, Ruchaka, and Sasa. Saturn is with the Sun so the

Sasa yoga is innefective, Mars is with the Moon so the Ruchaka Yoga is also

innefictive. Jupiter alone is forming a Mahapurusha Yoga and it is the

qualities of the Hamsa Yoga that are most marked in the native.

 

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic-astrolology.net

 

 

-

"balaji srinivasan" <sri_balaji

<vedic astrology>

Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:03 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler

 

 

> Dear Partha,

>

> True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But

> Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna.

>

> Check the following site:

>

> http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm

>

> The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not

> knowing if that was appropriate.

>

> I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka

> yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'.

>

> Please note that I am not debating here. It is

> essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these

> clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that.

> After all, I didn't go through the source of these

> yogas as I read only translations.

>

> Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all

> goodness. It is important to have correct freewill.

>

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

>

> --- partvinu5 wrote:

> >

> > dear balaji

> > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga

> > is formed when

> > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or

> > in own house.

> > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot

> > qualify hitler to

> > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka

> > yoga is one of the

> > five pancha mahapurusha yogas.

> > namely

> > 1)sasa(saturn

> > 2)hamsa(jupiter

> > 3)malavya(venus

> > 4)ruchaka(mars

> > 5)bhadra(mercury

> > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri

> > B.V.Raman. he never

> > mentioned what you had said.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan

> > <sri_balaji>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Partha,

> > >

> > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.

> > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help

> > > him.

> > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny

> > that

> > > was violent.

> > >

> > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is

> > an

> > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is

> > Graha

> > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,

> > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative

> > trait

> > > of Mars.

> > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries

> > has

> > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such

> > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In every chart, there can be shades of

> > destruction.

> > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and

> > minimize

> > > these traits.

> > >

> > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am

> > not

> > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,

> > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this

> > title.

> > >

> > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind.

> > That

> > > is why they are not cared for by the true

> > spiritual

> > > aspirants.

> > >

> > >

> > > warm regards,

> > > Balaji S.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > > > dear balaji

> > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets

> > in

> > > > 7th house.

> > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in

> > 3rd

> > > > house. saturn is in

> > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he

> > > > didn't have ruchaka

> > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari

> > yoga.

> > > > coupled with the

> > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him

> > notorious

> > > > image. sun,

> > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him

> > > > psychological illness.

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > > http://personals.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your use of is subject to

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjiv,

I am in Europe at the time without my books so I can't look up the

reference to the Sun and Moon disrupting Mahapurusha Yogas, and I can't

remember off the top of my head.

 

ANother chart that shows this is the chart of Anni Oakley AUg, 13, 1860

12:01 LMT 40n20, 84w20:

In the horoscope of Annie Oakley, famous markswoman, who started using a

rifle at the age of six to help her family hunt for food, and who became on

of the best known professional game hunters, Jupiter is in the 10th house in

exaltation forming Hamsa Yoga. Jupiter, however, is conjunct the Sun,

therefore the characteristics of Hamsa Yoga are not dominate in her

personality. Rather, vargottama Mars in the 3rd in Sagittarius, which rules

weapons, is aspecting the lagna lord Venus with a rasi aspect, describing

her personality exactly.

 

When I Arrive home and dig my books out from storage I will try to find the

source. I do beleive that it is in Charaks books on yogas, and I have spoken

to it with CHakrapani who also agrees with that.

 

THe dasa of a planet that would be forming mahapurusha yogas, but that is

joined with the SUn of Moon is of course a good dasa, a strong planetg in an

angle with a luminary has to be a successful dasa, but the lifelong

qualities and characteristics of the mahapursha yoga will be missing.

 

Best REgards,

Ernst Wilhelm

 

 

 

-

"Sanjiv Aggarwal/CanWest/IBM" <sanjiv

<vedic astrology>

Friday, November 02, 2001 10:43 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

 

 

>

> I have never read/heard about this criterion that you mention. Could you

> please provide the source; thx.

>

> As well, any thoughts from senior members would be welcome..... I

> personally don't understand the logic here. Sun/Moon considered the Royal

> planets should increase the effects of Mahapurusha even more so if Moon is

> participating in Gajakesari yoga...... (But then again there are some

> yogas the results of which seem to defy logic.....)

>

> Best Regards,

>

> SA

>

>

> "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst on 11/01/2001 12:37:08 AM

>

> Please respond to vedic astrology

>

> <vedic astrology>

> cc:

> [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

>

>

> Dear LIst Members,

>

> Ruchaka Yoga and other Mahapurusha Yogas like Bhadra, Hamsa, etc. are best

> seen from the lagna, though a few sources of lesser authority take them

> from

> the Moon as well, in my opinion, however they should only be taken from

the

> lagna. The planet forming the Mahapurusha YOga should be in an angle from

> the lagna, though there is some information out there that state in an

> angle

> or trine, though this is does not have any classical sanction that I am

> aware of.

>

> If the Mahapurusha Yoga forming planet is joined with the SUn or Moon the

> Yoga is cancelled, so in Hitler's chart he did not have Ruchaka Yoga since

> Mars is with the Moon. The Mahapurusha Yogas are not dasa dependent, they

> indicate lifelong charactistics with which the native furhters themselves

> in

> life with. Of course the dasa of a strong planet in an angle is generally

a

> promising dasa.

>

> I submit the birth chart with the following details: March 11, 1954 12:41

> PM, Richmond VA, 37n33, 77w28, EST +5.00

>

> In this horoscope Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all fomring thier

respective

> Mahapurusha Yogas, Hamsa, Ruchaka, and Sasa. Saturn is with the Sun so the

> Sasa yoga is innefective, Mars is with the Moon so the Ruchaka Yoga is

also

> innefictive. Jupiter alone is forming a Mahapurusha Yoga and it is the

> qualities of the Hamsa Yoga that are most marked in the native.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst Wilhelm

> www.vedic-astrolology.net

>

>

> -

> "balaji srinivasan" <sri_balaji

> <vedic astrology>

> Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:03 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler

>

>

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But

> > Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna.

> >

> > Check the following site:

> >

> > http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm

> >

> > The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not

> > knowing if that was appropriate.

> >

> > I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka

> > yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'.

> >

> > Please note that I am not debating here. It is

> > essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these

> > clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that.

> > After all, I didn't go through the source of these

> > yogas as I read only translations.

> >

> > Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all

> > goodness. It is important to have correct freewill.

> >

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Balaji S.

> >

> >

> > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > >

> > > dear balaji

> > > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga

> > > is formed when

> > > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or

> > > in own house.

> > > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot

> > > qualify hitler to

> > > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka

> > > yoga is one of the

> > > five pancha mahapurusha yogas.

> > > namely

> > > 1)sasa(saturn

> > > 2)hamsa(jupiter

> > > 3)malavya(venus

> > > 4)ruchaka(mars

> > > 5)bhadra(mercury

> > > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri

> > > B.V.Raman. he never

> > > mentioned what you had said.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan

> > > <sri_balaji>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Partha,

> > > >

> > > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.

> > > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help

> > > > him.

> > > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny

> > > that

> > > > was violent.

> > > >

> > > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is

> > > an

> > > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is

> > > Graha

> > > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,

> > > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative

> > > trait

> > > > of Mars.

> > > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries

> > > has

> > > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such

> > > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In every chart, there can be shades of

> > > destruction.

> > > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and

> > > minimize

> > > > these traits.

> > > >

> > > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am

> > > not

> > > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,

> > > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this

> > > title.

> > > >

> > > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind.

> > > That

> > > > is why they are not cared for by the true

> > > spiritual

> > > > aspirants.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Balaji S.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > > > > dear balaji

> > > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets

> > > in

> > > > > 7th house.

> > > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in

> > > 3rd

> > > > > house. saturn is in

> > > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he

> > > > > didn't have ruchaka

> > > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari

> > > yoga.

> > > > > coupled with the

> > > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him

> > > notorious

> > > > > image. sun,

> > > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him

> > > > > psychological illness.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > > > http://personals.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > http://personals.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

Thx; However, this is one case study; even without detailed study, Yoga is

tainted in more ways than one....

I'll look forward to further explanations/sources.

 

Best Regards,

SA

 

"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst on 11/03/2001 12:02:02 AM

 

Please respond to vedic astrology

 

<vedic astrology>

cc:

Re: [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

 

 

Dear Sanjiv,

I am in Europe at the time without my books so I can't look up the

reference to the Sun and Moon disrupting Mahapurusha Yogas, and I can't

remember off the top of my head.

 

ANother chart that shows this is the chart of Anni Oakley AUg, 13, 1860

12:01 LMT 40n20, 84w20:

In the horoscope of Annie Oakley, famous markswoman, who started using a

rifle at the age of six to help her family hunt for food, and who became on

of the best known professional game hunters, Jupiter is in the 10th house

in

exaltation forming Hamsa Yoga. Jupiter, however, is conjunct the Sun,

therefore the characteristics of Hamsa Yoga are not dominate in her

personality. Rather, vargottama Mars in the 3rd in Sagittarius, which rules

weapons, is aspecting the lagna lord Venus with a rasi aspect, describing

her personality exactly.

 

When I Arrive home and dig my books out from storage I will try to find

the

source. I do beleive that it is in Charaks books on yogas, and I have

spoken

to it with CHakrapani who also agrees with that.

 

THe dasa of a planet that would be forming mahapurusha yogas, but that is

joined with the SUn of Moon is of course a good dasa, a strong planetg in

an

angle with a luminary has to be a successful dasa, but the lifelong

qualities and characteristics of the mahapursha yoga will be missing.

 

Best REgards,

Ernst Wilhelm

 

 

 

-

"Sanjiv Aggarwal/CanWest/IBM" <sanjiv

<vedic astrology>

Friday, November 02, 2001 10:43 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

 

 

>

> I have never read/heard about this criterion that you mention. Could you

> please provide the source; thx.

>

> As well, any thoughts from senior members would be welcome..... I

> personally don't understand the logic here. Sun/Moon considered the

Royal

> planets should increase the effects of Mahapurusha even more so if Moon

is

> participating in Gajakesari yoga...... (But then again there are some

> yogas the results of which seem to defy logic.....)

>

> Best Regards,

>

> SA

>

>

> "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst on 11/01/2001 12:37:08 AM

>

> Please respond to vedic astrology

>

> <vedic astrology>

> cc:

> [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc

>

>

> Dear LIst Members,

>

> Ruchaka Yoga and other Mahapurusha Yogas like Bhadra, Hamsa, etc. are

best

> seen from the lagna, though a few sources of lesser authority take them

> from

> the Moon as well, in my opinion, however they should only be taken from

the

> lagna. The planet forming the Mahapurusha YOga should be in an angle from

> the lagna, though there is some information out there that state in an

> angle

> or trine, though this is does not have any classical sanction that I am

> aware of.

>

> If the Mahapurusha Yoga forming planet is joined with the SUn or Moon the

> Yoga is cancelled, so in Hitler's chart he did not have Ruchaka Yoga

since

> Mars is with the Moon. The Mahapurusha Yogas are not dasa dependent, they

> indicate lifelong charactistics with which the native furhters themselves

> in

> life with. Of course the dasa of a strong planet in an angle is generally

a

> promising dasa.

>

> I submit the birth chart with the following details: March 11, 1954 12:41

> PM, Richmond VA, 37n33, 77w28, EST +5.00

>

> In this horoscope Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all fomring thier

respective

> Mahapurusha Yogas, Hamsa, Ruchaka, and Sasa. Saturn is with the Sun so

the

> Sasa yoga is innefective, Mars is with the Moon so the Ruchaka Yoga is

also

> innefictive. Jupiter alone is forming a Mahapurusha Yoga and it is the

> qualities of the Hamsa Yoga that are most marked in the native.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst Wilhelm

> www.vedic-astrolology.net

>

>

> -

> "balaji srinivasan" <sri_balaji

> <vedic astrology>

> Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:03 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler

>

>

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But

> > Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna.

> >

> > Check the following site:

> >

> > http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm

> >

> > The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not

> > knowing if that was appropriate.

> >

> > I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka

> > yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'.

> >

> > Please note that I am not debating here. It is

> > essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these

> > clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that.

> > After all, I didn't go through the source of these

> > yogas as I read only translations.

> >

> > Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all

> > goodness. It is important to have correct freewill.

> >

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Balaji S.

> >

> >

> > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > >

> > > dear balaji

> > > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga

> > > is formed when

> > > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or

> > > in own house.

> > > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot

> > > qualify hitler to

> > > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka

> > > yoga is one of the

> > > five pancha mahapurusha yogas.

> > > namely

> > > 1)sasa(saturn

> > > 2)hamsa(jupiter

> > > 3)malavya(venus

> > > 4)ruchaka(mars

> > > 5)bhadra(mercury

> > > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri

> > > B.V.Raman. he never

> > > mentioned what you had said.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan

> > > <sri_balaji>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Partha,

> > > >

> > > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.

> > > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help

> > > > him.

> > > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny

> > > that

> > > > was violent.

> > > >

> > > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is

> > > an

> > > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is

> > > Graha

> > > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,

> > > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative

> > > trait

> > > > of Mars.

> > > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries

> > > has

> > > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such

> > > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In every chart, there can be shades of

> > > destruction.

> > > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and

> > > minimize

> > > > these traits.

> > > >

> > > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am

> > > not

> > > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,

> > > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this

> > > title.

> > > >

> > > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind.

> > > That

> > > > is why they are not cared for by the true

> > > spiritual

> > > > aspirants.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Balaji S.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- partvinu5 wrote:

> > > > > dear balaji

> > > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets

> > > in

> > > > > 7th house.

> > > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in

> > > 3rd

> > > > > house. saturn is in

> > > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he

> > > > > didn't have ruchaka

> > > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari

> > > yoga.

> > > > > coupled with the

> > > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him

> > > notorious

> > > > > image. sun,

> > > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him

> > > > > psychological illness.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > > > http://personals.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > http://personals.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

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[hari_ks77 0]

is hitler ascendant in virgo or libra?

does he have 4 planets in 8th house?