Characteristic of spiritual path is peace?

[Guest guest]

It is correct to certain extent till you reach the self (Jeevatma)

it is correct. But the spiritual journey does not stop there. When

you differentiate yourself from your body as pure awareness you will

attain peace but you have to go further to reach the ultimate goal,

which is the superself (Paramatma). When you are travelling in the

path to reach the super self after attaining the knowledge of self,

you will loose the peace because that path is full of sacrifice.

 

Sacrifice will disturb your mind because you have to cut all the

worldly bonds including the bond with your body and even life. While

reaching the self you are eating a sweet, which will give you

satisfaction. You cannot have fruit from the Lord again. You have

already eaten the sweet and you cannot charge money for eating the

sweet.

 

Already you are given the fruit when you attain your self but when

you are reaching the Paramatma you are giving the sweet to Him and

you have to suffer with hunger. Therefore the Lord will pay you for

the sacrifice of the sweet. When you loose the peace the Lord

becomes peaceful. Therefore attaining the self by removing the

illusion that you are the body etc., is only a half journey. The

Lord is called as Atmeswara in Veda, which means that He is the

controller of even the self.

 

In Advaita philosophy you are reaching the self, which is only the

intermediate station. Of course you must attain the peace, which

gives, you lot of strength so that you will withstand the suffering

by sacrifice in the next half of the journey. Sankara stopped by

preaching this intermediate station to all the people. When a few

people reached this station, then He opened the further path to them

only. He swallowed the molten lead and preached to the disciples

that He alone is the Lord. They realized the self and reached the

intermediate station called Brahman by the path of `Aham Brahmasmi'

(I am Brahman). Brahman means simple awareness.

 

The next half path is to reach Lord who is Eeswara. Peace is not the

final fruit. Peace is only the intermediate fruit, which gives you

the strength in the journey. The fruit given by the Lord is the

final fruit, which are peace, bliss and all the eight super powers.

If one takes a sleeping tablet, he can get peace during the sleep as

well as after awakening. Detachment from the world gives you the

peace (Brahman) but the fruit given by the Lord is to remain

peaceful, blissful while living in this world and helping the real

devotees with the help of the eight super powers (Asta Siddhis). The

fruit given by the Lord will give you the real bliss i.e., the

entertainment in the life game played by you in this world itself,

which is certainly far higher than the peace. Sivoham (I am Eeswara)

as told by Sankara is the final goal and not 'Aham Brahmasmi'.

Sankara lived in the world and did lot of work. He never sat idle

thinking Aham Brahmasmi like the present Advaita Philosophers.

 

Patanjali wrote Yoga Sutras and fixed Eeswara as the final goal. We

remember Sankara today as the divine hero but not the other Advaita

philosophers. Sankara sacrificed His mother and earning of money for

the sake of the mission of the Lord. But the Advaita Philosophers

sit in their houses and roll with their family bonds and simply say

Aham Brahmasmi. One should become a divine hero like Sankara,

Ramanuja, Madhva, Swami Vivekananda etc.; they were dynamic doing

the Karma Yoga, which was without any selfishness. Their Karma Yoga

was the propagation of the divine knowledge, which is Jnana Yoga but

today the Advaita Philosopher is doing Karma Yoga with selfishness

for his family bonds only. What is the use of their Jnana Yoga?

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

[Guest guest]

Dear Surya ji,

these thoughts and expressions look to be no astrological and also imposing to

others.when you express your interpretations,these can be one of the

alternatives but can never be the whole:But the Advaita Philosophers sit in

their houses and roll with their family bonds and simply say

Aham Brahmasmi.This way of looking at things is also one kind of philosophy

different from the appraoches of: One should become a divine hero like Sankara,

Ramanuja, Madhva, Swami Vivekananda etc.; they were dynamic doing the Karma

Yoga, which was without any selfishness.

Karma Yoga be a slave to what you intend to without weighing pros and cons(but

not selfishness) and receive gracefull what ever karmaphala whatever that cpmes

to you and endorse it to the the supreme Giver,the God

krishnan

surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

It is correct to certain extent till you reach the self (Jeevatma)

it is correct. But the spiritual journey does not stop there. When

you differentiate yourself from your body as pure awareness you will

attain peace but you have to go further to reach the ultimate goal,

which is the superself (Paramatma). When you are travelling in the

path to reach the super self after attaining the knowledge of self,

you will loose the peace because that path is full of sacrifice.

 

Sacrifice will disturb your mind because you have to cut all the

worldly bonds including the bond with your body and even life. While

reaching the self you are eating a sweet, which will give you

satisfaction. You cannot have fruit from the Lord again. You have

already eaten the sweet and you cannot charge money for eating the

sweet.

 

Already you are given the fruit when you attain your self but when

you are reaching the Paramatma you are giving the sweet to Him and

you have to suffer with hunger. Therefore the Lord will pay you for

the sacrifice of the sweet. When you loose the peace the Lord

becomes peaceful. Therefore attaining the self by removing the

illusion that you are the body etc., is only a half journey. The

Lord is called as Atmeswara in Veda, which means that He is the

controller of even the self.

 

In Advaita philosophy you are reaching the self, which is only the

intermediate station. Of course you must attain the peace, which

gives, you lot of strength so that you will withstand the suffering

by sacrifice in the next half of the journey. Sankara stopped by

preaching this intermediate station to all the people. When a few

people reached this station, then He opened the further path to them

only. He swallowed the molten lead and preached to the disciples

that He alone is the Lord. They realized the self and reached the

intermediate station called Brahman by the path of `Aham Brahmasmi'

(I am Brahman). Brahman means simple awareness.

 

The next half path is to reach Lord who is Eeswara. Peace is not the

final fruit. Peace is only the intermediate fruit, which gives you

the strength in the journey. The fruit given by the Lord is the

final fruit, which are peace, bliss and all the eight super powers.

If one takes a sleeping tablet, he can get peace during the sleep as

well as after awakening. Detachment from the world gives you the

peace (Brahman) but the fruit given by the Lord is to remain

peaceful, blissful while living in this world and helping the real

devotees with the help of the eight super powers (Asta Siddhis). The

fruit given by the Lord will give you the real bliss i.e., the

entertainment in the life game played by you in this world itself,

which is certainly far higher than the peace. Sivoham (I am Eeswara)

as told by Sankara is the final goal and not 'Aham Brahmasmi'.

Sankara lived in the world and did lot of work. He never sat idle

thinking Aham Brahmasmi like the present Advaita Philosophers.

 

Patanjali wrote Yoga Sutras and fixed Eeswara as the final goal. We

remember Sankara today as the divine hero but not the other Advaita

philosophers. Sankara sacrificed His mother and earning of money for

the sake of the mission of the Lord. But the Advaita Philosophers

sit in their houses and roll with their family bonds and simply say

Aham Brahmasmi. One should become a divine hero like Sankara,

Ramanuja, Madhva, Swami Vivekananda etc.; they were dynamic doing

the Karma Yoga, which was without any selfishness. Their Karma Yoga

was the propagation of the divine knowledge, which is Jnana Yoga but

today the Advaita Philosopher is doing Karma Yoga with selfishness

for his family bonds only. What is the use of their Jnana Yoga?

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

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