Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Dear RR ji, I am reposting first instalment on Guru which I think appeared in VA. This is on your request. IS GURU A BENIGN/DIVINE PLANET ?? Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at Karakatwa of planets. I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest for Karaktwa is continuing. I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani. So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I am writing the first instalment of work on Guru. I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani. "It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill is converted into a mountain. Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste, of low character , menials, diseased etc. This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by astrologers of yore. Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of. So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round holes. Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas became one . Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, pious, intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, portfolios of 2nd house and 5th house were also given to him. But Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or suffered financially. He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the lineage to the end.The person becomes childless. How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ? How can the Putra Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava ? They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava. It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!! How paradoxical !!!! So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula made a rule to explain. BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA, BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI: Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases the bhava he occupies. I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the reflection of Moon." And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he is a misfit in most of the places he sits. According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in form of aspectual fruits. In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table, Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group. JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality). Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE. You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are yellow. Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!! Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process. And this is the handiwork of Planet known as JEEVA. I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies. EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE. Male DOB: 28.9.1954 TOB: 18.30 Hrs POB: Madras Asc: Pisces Ketu: Gemini Jupiter: Cancer Moon,Sun: Virgo Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation. He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light funeral pyre. This person is childless even after two marriages. CASE # II Male DOB: 6TH July 1935 Tob : 5.34 AM POB: Teng-t'a 101 E 12 36 N 32 Gemini: Asc Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu Leo: Moon/venus Virgo : Mars Libra : Jupiter Saggi: Rahu Aquarius: Saturn This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no children due to religious abstinence. This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama. CASE # III GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA MALE Born ...10th Nov 1955 Janma Lagna Kataka Vrishabha...........ketu Simha ..............Guru Kanya...............Moon, Mars Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently). This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo. RESULT: The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after by father inlaw. GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA. Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a person. I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru. CASE #1 Male: DOB: 27.3.1972 TOB: 9.07 AM POB: Udaipur Rajasthan Taurus: Asc Taurus: Mars/Sat Cancer: Ketu Leo: Moon Saggi: Jupiter Capri: Rahu Pisces: Sun/Merc Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic road accident in year 2001. CASE # 2 Male DOB: 9.11.1915 TOB: 12.15 am POB: Porbandar India Cancer : Asc Cancer: Mars/ketu Libra: Merc/Sun Scorpio: Moon/Venus Capri: Rahu Aquarius: Jupiter Gemini: Saturn Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava. The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years. To Be Continued. BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Sir, do I have your permission to save your posting as a file in the library? It can be readily referenced then, for future. Thanks RR , "om_tatsat_om" <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > Dear RR ji, > I am reposting first instalment on Guru which I think appeared in VA. > This is on your request. > > > IS GURU A BENIGN/DIVINE PLANET ?? > > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: > > Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at > Karakatwa of planets. I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest > for Karaktwa is continuing. > I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani. > So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I > am writing the first instalment of work on Guru. > > I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks > about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani. > > "It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker > shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. > once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill > is converted into a mountain. > > Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and > benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst > things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, > crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste, of low character , menials, > diseased etc. > This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by > astrologers of yore. > Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, > labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of. > > So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and > Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed > to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round > holes. > > Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as > Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, > Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas > became one . > > Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, > pious, intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, > portfolios of 2nd house and 5th house were also given to him. But > Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he > was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or > suffered financially. He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana > Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the > lineage to the end.The person becomes childless. > > How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place > ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ? How can the Putra > Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava ? > > They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava. > > It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance > in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!! > > How paradoxical !!!! > > So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula made a rule > to explain. > > BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA, > BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI: > > Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases > the bhava he occupies. > > I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the > mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the > reflection of Moon." > > And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and > stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the > rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he > is a misfit in most of the places he sits. > > > According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws > strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in > form of aspectual fruits. > In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table, > Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group. > > JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP > > Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on > earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen > in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and > prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality). > > Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is > Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE. > > You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell > has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are > yellow. > > Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher > doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!! > Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to > be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have > been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process. > And this is the handiwork of Planet known as JEEVA. > > I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today > to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies. > > EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE. > > Male > DOB: 28.9.1954 > TOB: 18.30 Hrs > POB: Madras > > Asc: Pisces > Ketu: Gemini > Jupiter: Cancer > Moon,Sun: Virgo > Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra > Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius > > > Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation. > He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light > funeral pyre. > > This person is childless even after two marriages. > > > CASE # II > > Male > > DOB: 6TH July 1935 > Tob : 5.34 AM > POB: Teng-t'a > 101 E 12 > 36 N 32 > > Gemini: Asc > Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu > Leo: Moon/venus > Virgo : Mars > Libra : Jupiter > Saggi: Rahu > Aquarius: Saturn > > This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no > children due to religious abstinence. > This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama. > > CASE # III > > GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA > > MALE > Born ...10th Nov 1955 > > > Janma Lagna Kataka > Vrishabha...........ketu > Simha ..............Guru > Kanya...............Moon, Mars > Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun > Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra > > > VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR, > Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently). > > This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo. > > RESULT: > > The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed > in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people > huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also > his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after > by father inlaw. > > > GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA. > > Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when > comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a > person. > I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru. > > CASE #1 > > Male: > DOB: 27.3.1972 > TOB: 9.07 AM > POB: Udaipur Rajasthan > > Taurus: Asc > Taurus: Mars/Sat > Cancer: Ketu > Leo: Moon > Saggi: Jupiter > Capri: Rahu > Pisces: Sun/Merc > > Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic > road accident in year 2001. > > CASE # 2 > > Male > DOB: 9.11.1915 > TOB: 12.15 am > POB: Porbandar India > > Cancer : Asc > Cancer: Mars/ketu > Libra: Merc/Sun > Scorpio: Moon/Venus > Capri: Rahu > Aquarius: Jupiter > Gemini: Saturn > > Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava. > > The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years. > > To Be Continued. > > BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 dear tatvamasi ji your definition of jupiter and saturn as spoiler of bhava and improver of bhava respectively with supporting charts is an interesting observation. i give below two chart details who has jupiter in 5th house and both of them having children. 09.07.1973 pune 1305 hours 11.05.1957 naraingarh 0444 hours however, it is not prudent to advocate whether jupiter in 5th house would grant children or would not grant children. for a native to have children or not is seen not just by jupiter alone but by the strength of 5th lord, the planets in 5th house, the aspects on 5th house, affliction of 5th lord etc. the karaka of 8th house is saturn. with best wishes arjun , "om_tatsat_om" <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > Dear RR ji, > I am reposting first instalment on Guru which I think appeared in VA. > This is on your request. > > > IS GURU A BENIGN/DIVINE PLANET ?? > > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: > > Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at > Karakatwa of planets. I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest > for Karaktwa is continuing. > I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani. > So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I > am writing the first instalment of work on Guru. > > I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks > about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani. > > "It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker > shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. > once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill > is converted into a mountain. > > Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and > benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst > things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, > crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste, of low character , menials, > diseased etc. > This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by > astrologers of yore. > Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, > labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of. > > So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and > Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed > to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round > holes. > > Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as > Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, > Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas > became one . > > Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, > pious, intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, > portfolios of 2nd house and 5th house were also given to him. But > Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he > was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or > suffered financially. He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana > Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the > lineage to the end.The person becomes childless. > > How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place > ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ? How can the Putra > Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava ? > > They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava. > > It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance > in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!! > > How paradoxical !!!! > > So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula made a rule > to explain. > > BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA, > BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI: > > Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases > the bhava he occupies. > > I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the > mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the > reflection of Moon." > > And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and > stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the > rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he > is a misfit in most of the places he sits. > > > According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws > strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in > form of aspectual fruits. > In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table, > Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group. > > JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP > > Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on > earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen > in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and > prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality). > > Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is > Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE. > > You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell > has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are > yellow. > > Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher > doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!! > Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to > be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have > been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process. > And this is the handiwork of Planet known as JEEVA. > > I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today > to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies. > > EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE. > > Male > DOB: 28.9.1954 > TOB: 18.30 Hrs > POB: Madras > > Asc: Pisces > Ketu: Gemini > Jupiter: Cancer > Moon,Sun: Virgo > Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra > Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius > > > Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation. > He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light > funeral pyre. > > This person is childless even after two marriages. > > > CASE # II > > Male > > DOB: 6TH July 1935 > Tob : 5.34 AM > POB: Teng-t'a > 101 E 12 > 36 N 32 > > Gemini: Asc > Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu > Leo: Moon/venus > Virgo : Mars > Libra : Jupiter > Saggi: Rahu > Aquarius: Saturn > > This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no > children due to religious abstinence. > This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama. > > CASE # III > > GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA > > MALE > Born ...10th Nov 1955 > > > Janma Lagna Kataka > Vrishabha...........ketu > Simha ..............Guru > Kanya...............Moon, Mars > Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun > Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra > > > VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR, > Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently). > > This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo. > > RESULT: > > The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed > in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people > huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also > his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after > by father inlaw. > > > GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA. > > Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when > comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a > person. > I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru. > > CASE #1 > > Male: > DOB: 27.3.1972 > TOB: 9.07 AM > POB: Udaipur Rajasthan > > Taurus: Asc > Taurus: Mars/Sat > Cancer: Ketu > Leo: Moon > Saggi: Jupiter > Capri: Rahu > Pisces: Sun/Merc > > Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic > road accident in year 2001. > > CASE # 2 > > Male > DOB: 9.11.1915 > TOB: 12.15 am > POB: Porbandar India > > Cancer : Asc > Cancer: Mars/ketu > Libra: Merc/Sun > Scorpio: Moon/Venus > Capri: Rahu > Aquarius: Jupiter > Gemini: Saturn > > Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava. > > The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years. > > To Be Continued. > > BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Bravo Sir! What a wonderful example you have provided, Sir -- through sharing this write-up of yours. I am hopeful that it would energize and motivate everyone to follow in your footsteps. Some readers may need to be reminded that they should always remember that other factors would also play a part and considered in a live reading situation when advice is being given. To the experienced such a caveat should not be necessary, one hopes, but no harm in spelling it out, yet again (I once had a very senior scholar/teacher/author nearly pin me down because I quoted something from another astrologer who was not in his good books! And I did not even say that the factor I mentioned was the 'only' one but anyway ... :-) RR , "om_tatsat_om" <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > Dear RR ji, > I am reposting first instalment on Guru which I think appeared in VA. > This is on your request. > > > IS GURU A BENIGN/DIVINE PLANET ?? > > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: > > Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at > Karakatwa of planets. I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest > for Karaktwa is continuing. > I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani. > So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I > am writing the first instalment of work on Guru. > > I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks > about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani. > > "It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker > shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. > once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill > is converted into a mountain. > > Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and > benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst > things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, > crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste, of low character , menials, > diseased etc. > This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by > astrologers of yore. > Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, > labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of. > > So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and > Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed > to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round > holes. > > Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as > Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, > Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas > became one . > > Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, > pious, intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, > portfolios of 2nd house and 5th house were also given to him. But > Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he > was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or > suffered financially. He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana > Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the > lineage to the end.The person becomes childless. > > How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place > ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ? How can the Putra > Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava ? > > They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava. > > It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance > in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!! > > How paradoxical !!!! > > So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula made a rule > to explain. > > BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA, > BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI: > > Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases > the bhava he occupies. > > I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the > mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the > reflection of Moon." > > And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and > stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the > rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he > is a misfit in most of the places he sits. > > > According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws > strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in > form of aspectual fruits. > In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table, > Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group. > > JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP > > Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on > earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen > in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and > prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality). > > Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is > Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE. > > You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell > has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are > yellow. > > Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher > doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!! > Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to > be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have > been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process. > And this is the handiwork of Planet known as JEEVA. > > I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today > to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies. > > EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE. > > Male > DOB: 28.9.1954 > TOB: 18.30 Hrs > POB: Madras > > Asc: Pisces > Ketu: Gemini > Jupiter: Cancer > Moon,Sun: Virgo > Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra > Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius > > > Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation. > He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light > funeral pyre. > > This person is childless even after two marriages. > > > CASE # II > > Male > > DOB: 6TH July 1935 > Tob : 5.34 AM > POB: Teng-t'a > 101 E 12 > 36 N 32 > > Gemini: Asc > Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu > Leo: Moon/venus > Virgo : Mars > Libra : Jupiter > Saggi: Rahu > Aquarius: Saturn > > This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no > children due to religious abstinence. > This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama. > > CASE # III > > GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA > > MALE > Born ...10th Nov 1955 > > > Janma Lagna Kataka > Vrishabha...........ketu > Simha ..............Guru > Kanya...............Moon, Mars > Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun > Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra > > > VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR, > Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently). > > This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo. > > RESULT: > > The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed > in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people > huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also > his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after > by father inlaw. > > > GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA. > > Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when > comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a > person. > I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru. > > CASE #1 > > Male: > DOB: 27.3.1972 > TOB: 9.07 AM > POB: Udaipur Rajasthan > > Taurus: Asc > Taurus: Mars/Sat > Cancer: Ketu > Leo: Moon > Saggi: Jupiter > Capri: Rahu > Pisces: Sun/Merc > > Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic > road accident in year 2001. > > CASE # 2 > > Male > DOB: 9.11.1915 > TOB: 12.15 am > POB: Porbandar India > > Cancer : Asc > Cancer: Mars/ketu > Libra: Merc/Sun > Scorpio: Moon/Venus > Capri: Rahu > Aquarius: Jupiter > Gemini: Saturn > > Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava. > > The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years. > > To Be Continued. > > BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 dear sir, after reading ur contribution on whether guru a benign/ divine planet?, it puts everyone in a fix as to find out which planet in the solar system is a good dispositor. My lagna is vrichigam and my moon is in kanya, I have jupiter in Dhanus. In terms of wealth I didnt have a big fortune during my guru dasa which started in Jun1986 and ended in 2001. Neither did I have any financial misfortune. One area in the article i observe is the planet's aspect will give more results(good or bad) than the bhava. If we have to quote an analogy. Let us consider a 1000watts bulb illuminating a playground. we can derive the benefit of this bright light if we are at the middle or at the other end of the play ground. But if we directly stand below the illuminated bulb we cant stand even for few mins since the heat generated from the bulb will be so intense. I presume the same can be applied to the planets in relation to bhava and aspects. withgood wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Not everyone is in a fix I am sure! Did I tell you about the folks with a 'd' on one side of the see-saw and a 'w' on the other? Assuming you have read my Jupiter light post <shrinking violet that I am!> I love your analogy about the 1000watt bulb on the playground, but Gopu, didn't the coach tell you to keep your eyes on the " ball" when you are playing and not the bulb overhead? :-) RR , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear sir, > after reading ur contribution on whether guru a > benign/ divine planet?, it puts everyone in a fix as > to find out which planet in the solar system is a good > dispositor. My lagna is vrichigam and my moon is in > kanya, I have jupiter in Dhanus. In terms of wealth I > didnt have a big fortune during my guru dasa which > started in Jun1986 and ended in 2001. Neither did I > have any financial misfortune. One area in the article > i observe is the planet's aspect will give more > results(good or bad) than the bhava. If we have to > quote an analogy. Let us consider a 1000watts bulb > illuminating a playground. we can derive the benefit > of this bright light if we are at the middle or at the > other end of the play ground. But if we directly stand > below the illuminated bulb we cant stand even for few > mins since the heat generated from the bulb will be so > intense. I presume the same can be applied to the > planets in relation to bhava and aspects. > > withgood wishes, > k.gopu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 dear Shri RR, U r absolutely right that as a player we haveto concenterate on the ball for which we need a good ray of light falling on the ball and suppose a shadow falls on the ball we may struggle to locate the ball. Anyway i am not giving any justification on my bulb theory, I am trying to illuminate my thought process. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Gopu ji, We are building a chain of thought and ideas -- your link was critical since it started this chain! Always remember that and keep your eyes on the ball :-) RR , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > dear Shri RR, > U r absolutely right that as a player we haveto > concenterate on the ball for which we need a good ray > of light falling on the ball and suppose a shadow > falls on the ball we may struggle to locate the ball. > Anyway i am not giving any justification on my bulb > theory, I am trying to illuminate my thought process. > > with good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishankar_in Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Sir, I went through your post abt Guru.My Guru is placed in 5th house,and it conjucts with Moon,Mars & Rahu. My parents are looking for matches since last 2 yrs and nothing is materialising.I would be greatful if you can analyze my chart and provide your advices on the same. here are my birth details.. Jan 6,1980 Time: 12:44 PM Birth Place: Merta City,Rajasthan , India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anusha Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear om_tatsat_om ji, Kindly read this chart of a person and give your valuable opinion. DOB:21-06-1949 Time:19-56 hrs Place:Kancheepuram,Tamil nadu. Regards, Anusha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anusha Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dear om_tatsat_om ji, Kindly read this chart of a person and give your valuable opinion. DOB:21-06-1949 Time:19-56 hrs Place:Kancheepuram,Tamil nadu. Regards, Anusha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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