Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Dear Anil Ji, This is the life mystery yet so simple ,if u seek u wud be lost,its there now ,always ,ever. jus to be realised. U have a right to pamper ur ego nothing wrong slowly this will also fade away into oblivion. I remember seeing this movie guide of devaanad ,if u remember the last dialogues when he sees the light ???. rgds kumar wrote: There are 14 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Digest Number 1187 "anil" 2. Enlightenment "anil" 3. akash deeps - please can someone read this for my brother. ritu sharma 4. Brihat Samhita Balaji Narasimhan 5. Re: Re: Gotra vattem krishnan 6. Re: query on remedies vattem krishnan 7. malefic & benefic planets in this chart..... "sahotaa99" 8. Re: query on remedies vattem krishnan 9. Re: Atmakarka vattem krishnan 10. Re: query on remedies "sahotaa99" 11. Re: query on remedies "sahotaa99" 12. UL fasting angel 13. Re: query on remedies vattem krishnan 14. Re: query on remedies "ricky88888765" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:06:54 -0000 "anil" Re: Digest Number 1187 i am reminded of this song by Mukesh.. who himself was a divine person.. his aawaj directly touches soul..Moku Kahan dhoode re bande.. mein to Tere Paas mein.. No seeking..just be as you are..for there is nothing to be sought.. there was a time when i kept on reading..Love thyself and Love others.. i used to feel odd .. as i thought Love as analogous to adultery in relationship.. like a husband leaving the wife for another woman..lust.. western culture.. now i understand that Love is a spectrum containg alltypes of feelings..like a white light is a spectrum.. If one Loves self and all others including that - is perceibvable or not..all that IS.. then there is no need to know anything else.. Like i have mentioned earlier..i have chosen salvation as my highest purpose of life..i want to be a healer.. still writing these emails are still part of my Ego which needs to be satisfied and needs praise in the forum..needs to share though with others to enlighten them .. but at the same time to show that i too have the knowledge..there will be a time when i will not even bother to express myself and seek in any forum.. rgds anil , siam pacific wrote: > Dear Anil ji, > very well written and truly i can say u have understood SELF OR GOD THIS IS THE FACT, REST ALL IS BRAHMA( ILLUSION ).U R ENLIGHTENED SO NO NEED TO CONFUSE URSELF WITH ALL THESE ARGUMENTS N DISCUSSION . > THIS WAS THE REASON WHY SIKHISM ,MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS HAVE DELETED OR AVOIDED THIS SUBJECT ASTROLOGY.THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS SCIENCE OR DEFER PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THIS. > AS ASTROLOGY WAS A DIVINE SCIENCE IN OLDEN TIMES THE RISHIS HAD THE DIVINE VISION BEFORE PROFESSING ANYTHING ,WHICH IS TOTALLY LOST WITH TIMES > AND NOW IT HAS BECOME A PROFESSION AND A GAME FOR THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE INCLINED TOWARDS DEFEATISM , DESTINY ,AND FATE. > AS U RIGHTLY SAID HOW CAN HIS CREATION BE WRONG ,PAINFUL AND FULL OF MISERY- SIMPLE REASON WE ALL ARE CLINGING TO THAT ' I '. > THIS I, ME IS PAINFULL. > ALL ARE SHASRTAS ,PURANAS AND EVEN GEETA ARE WRITTEN IN SYMBOLICAL TERMS .FOR A LAYMAN ITS KRISHNA AND ARJUN IN FORMS( ROOP), HE WILL TAKE THEM AS GOD AND WORSHIP THEM.WHEREAS FOR A LEARNED SOUL ITS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN ATMA AND PARMATMA. > JUST THINK ARJUN THE JEEV SITTING IN A CHARIOT ( BODY )DRIVEN BY FIVE HORSES ( 5 SENSES) DRIVEN BY KRISHNA ( PARMATMA).THEN WHERE CAN HE GO WRONG ,HE IS BOUND TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST THE THOUSANDS OF VICHARS,DESIRES,ETC. > THERE DHRITRASTRA BLIND WITH HUNDRED SONS MEANS MANN(MIND ) WITH 100 DESIRES LOSES THE BATTLE ,LOSES HIS SONS . > GETTING BACK TO THE POINT U HAVE RIGHTLY SAID NOT MANY HAVE THE KEY TO THIS WISDOM. > HIS CREATION ,HIS LEELA HAS TO BE THE BEST WITHOUT ANY FLAWS. > I CAN UNDERSTAND UR CONCERN ABOUT UR SON ,AFTER ALL ITS THE VEIL OF MAYA,VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK IT . > WELL I HAVE MET PERONALLY THIS KALKI BHAGWAN WHO HAS THE POWER > AND IS BESTOWING INSTANT ENLIGHTMENT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. > WAT HE SAYS I CAN VOUCH FOR HIM,HE IS THE PERSON WHO SAYS HE CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN FAMILY,ITS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE TILL U GO THERE. > WAT U THINK AND WAT HE SAYS IS THE SAME THING ,HE SAYS IT OPENLY NO ONE CAN ACHIEVE ENLIGHTMENT ON ITS OWN ,IT HAS TO BE GIVEN .NO AMOUNT OF PUJA ,JAPA CAN HELP YOU,IN HIS WORDS ' EVEN IF U PRAY STANDING ON UR HEAD U CANNOT ACHIEVE IT'. > TO WITNESS THIS U HAVE TO GO HIS ASHRAM IN THE SOUTH OR SEARCH KALKI.ORG ON THE NET OR www.experiencefestival.com .HE IS ONE MAN WHO CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS OF UR SON IF HE IS WILLING ,U HAVE TO ASK HIM. > PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE IT BUT WAT HE TOLD ME HAS LOGIC ,WHEN HE TAKES U ABOVE THIS LOKA AND IF THE PERSON CAN REACH THE 6TH OR 7TH LOKA WITH HIS GRACE THEN OVER THERE HE CAN REWRITE THE PERSON KARMAS. > THEY HAVE A SESSION FOR 7DAYS ,10 DAYS,21 DAYS FOR GIVING DIKSHA FOR TOTAL ENLIGHTMENT. > ONCE U REACH THERE U CAN SEE ANY NUMBERS OF ENLIGHTED SOULS,IN FACT THE VILLAGE NEARBY IS FULLY ENLIGHTED ,U CAN TALK TO PEOPLE ORDINARY LOOKING BUT ONCE U TALK U WUD UNDERSTAND .. > ALL OUR SO CALLED PREACHERS ON THE TV ARE VISITING HIM FOR ENLIGHTMENT AS U KNOW THEY CAN ONLY TALK BUT CANNOT GIVE ANYTHING.ITS JUS THEY HAVE TAKEN A DEGREE IN HISTORY ( BHAGWAD PURANA OR RAMAYANA ). > U R A BLESSED PERSON SO IS UR FAMILY ITS EITHER U PLAY ON WITH HIS LEELA OR CAN TAKE A CHANCE WITH KALKI BHAGWAN. > LIKE U SAY ITS GETTING HEAVIER FOR THE COMMONER ,IT IS THE SAME BREATH TYING EACH AND EVERY SOUL WITH ONENESS THEN WHERE IS THE DUALITY. > RGDS > KUMAR > > > wrote: > There are 2 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: pls help > > 2. Re: jyotish and karma theory > "anil" > > > ____________________ __ > ____________________ __ > > Message: 1 > Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:42:23 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: pls help > > thanks for your reply Srikantaji, > > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies? > > regrads, > Bhatt > > > > > --- asksrikanta wrote: > > > Dear Bhatt Ji, > > > > Surya Kundali is analysing the chart > > taking Sun sign as the lagna. > > Strength of this chart shows success in profession > > and politics one's > > status in society. > > > > Similarly the strength of Chandra Kundali indicates > > wealth and mental > > poise and capacity of an person. > > > > Benefic in Upachaya(3,6,10,11) places from > > > > Lagna makes one owner of virtuous and saintly > > qualities. > > > > similarly from Moon makes one Wealthy and from Sun > > makes one > > established in the professional/social/poliotical > > circle with the > > capability to exercise political powers and > > influence. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > Srikanta > > I, > > > > wrote: > > > hi, > > > > > > what is diffent bet. Surya Kundli & Chandra > > Kundli? > > > > > > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Regards, > > > Bhatt > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > ____________________ __ > > Message: 2 > Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:44:40 -0000 > "anil" > Re: jyotish and karma theory > > Dear Arjun ji, > > First of all my unconditional apologies for i seem to have raised an > anguish in you. > > I understand your feelings as you as a master have great belief in > Jyotish and you are > also a matured/old soul.. > > In this universe, there is nothing right or wrong.. there is nothing > sacred or evil..it is > just the conditioning of our mind..everything IS.. > > We all are part of GOD.. all that is.. then i believe.. everything in > this world is perfect.. > why do we label something good or bad..then..? does it mean in HIS > sristi He created > something..which was imperfect ?? How can anything in GOD's creation > be BAD ?? .. > this is the point i wanted to emphasize.. > > We all express and experience what we desire steadyfast..like despite > knowing > above i am still stuck in knowing about my son's longevity.. depite > having a firm belief > inside that death is purely a decision of the individual SOUL..still > it is my mind which > seeks.. that is the game... my mind is playing..and i am aware of it.. > > and WHY GOD can not be humerous ? and willing to play GAMES...It is > like labelling > SEX as bad.. > > When ones feels separated, then feeling of separateness and > individuality..arises.. > then one seeks..and tries to find answers externally.. precisely what > i have been > doing.. > > I did not mean to demean Jyotish.. i was only referring to a book > called Ramtha White > Book..their web site is ramtha.com..when i finished the book..i could > not believe that i > am GOD..how can i be a GOD ?? later i was suggested reading 3 books > of - > Conversations with GOD by Welsch.. and slowly.. i understood the > meaning of it.. > > Also i am told that there are two shlokas.. in Gita.. and not > everyone has the key to it.. > that is the root of the whole confusion.. > > In my opinion, each one of us is a master with uniqueness and we all > create whatever we desire and believe.. > > Very recently.. i have experienced the Law of Cause and Effect...in > my case it happens almost instantaneouly..so i would not defy Cause > and Effect.. > but then when i say Karma.. then i mean everything ends in this > life.. for after > death.. soul will rest and analyse and then correct the > mis-learnings..in next life..there > is no compulsion to repay for any mis-deeds..done in last life..but > then it is again a > bookish knowledge.. > > actually it is getting heavier..so i would once again say that i love > all who think Jyotish > as Vedanga.. for each one of us is a unique master and has the free > will to experience > one is scripted for..and each one of has an essence and beauty.. > > Each one of us connected thru the thoughts energy and we are not > separate..and our inner consciouness network keeps designing the further moves.. > like all who are going to read this email and feel whatever.. > > BTW.. i am still concerned ( my mind ) about my son.. does he have > Balarishtra Yoga.. > if yes.. are there any remedies..?? > > Kind regards > anil > > > > , arjun pandit > > > wrote: > > dear friend > > jyotish is a VEDANGA and should be revered as a holy scripture. > history has seen > billions of people trying to learn jyotish and failing. Only with > divine grace after doing > lot of meditation, people have succeeded in mastering this art. > Hence kindly do not > call it a game which is sacrilege. > > You have also expressed various doubts on karma theory earlier. > Lord krishna says > in Gita chapter six, verse 40 "na hi kalyana krut kakshit durgatim > tata gachhati". It > means that a person who does good, who seeks the welfare of others > and seeks to > do good and actually does good cannot come toan eveil end whether he > believes in > god or not. this is the reason why several members have been > highlighting offlate to > do good deeds to improve upon your karma and receive the blessings of > god. > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > anil wrote: > > Ramtha, a 35000 years old soul already told about it 10 years back > and also said that > > there is eleventh planet also in formation..he also said that > astrology was invented > by > > Gogs - only as a game for Gods..and Chart should have 14 houses..so > treat > astrology > > as a game.. > > > > Well !! we are all Gods..so it is a game for us.. > > > > regards > > anil > > , vattem krishnan > > > wrote: > > > Hello friends, > > > Science has no limitations be it Information Technology or > scientific explorations. > > Man's continuous pursuit of nature brings very interesting > revealtions.Of them is the > > discovery of 10th planet in outer space called 2003-UB313.It is > 10th planet of solar > > system.it is one and half size of pluto and measures 2,032km in > diameter. > > > How do we really now think in terms of palnetary influences on > human kind due to > > the scietific findings? > > > may kindly suggest > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail for Mobile > > > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > ____________________ __ > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > --------------- ------------------------ > Links > > > > > --------------- ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:02:42 -0000 "anil" Enlightenment Dear friends, I am feeling that this is not the right group to talk about the enlightenment..those interested may pl. send an email to.. newton_plr_workshops_members- This is a new age group which was originally formed to discuss past life regression experiences..and can be broadened to include self realization experiences as well.. all interested are welcome.. regards anil bindal ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:53:04 +0100 (BST) ritu sharma akash deeps - please can someone read this for my brother. Please can someone read my brothers horo - 31 july 83 10.41 am UK BERKSHIRE Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Thu, 4 Aug 2005 02:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Balaji Narasimhan Brihat Samhita Dear Friends, Can you tell me if you know of any good English translation of Brihat Samhita? There is a 2-volume set by R Bhatt and a single-volume book by NC Iyer, but both seem to be out of stock. Can people who have read one or the other please tell me which is the better book? Also, if somebody can direct me to an online version of the book, I will be most grateful! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Thu, 4 Aug 2005 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) vattem krishnan Re: Re: Gotra thanx. krishnan with regards kadrudra wrote: Dear Krishnan, Your question: No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? It is not at all necessary to have any TAGS for Vedic persuits, but tags can identify a person; thats all! Tagging namecards to persons, makes the society be organised and grouped in different streams of specialization. GOTRA plays a main role in Genetics and Marriage, Legal and Political Inheritance, Adoption, Religious samskaras etc. So it was the need of the society in those days and did/does not hinder Vedic studies in any case. That is well manifested in the story of sage Satyakaama Jaabaala. yours humbly, KAD , vattem krishnan wrote: > Dear KAD, > Thnaks for: "vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana-Apastambha etc Sutra" :answer to the point.Excellent > > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas :this obligates gotra. > No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? > > Krishnan > > kadrudra wrote: > Dear friend, > > Arsheya, Pravara, Gotra, Sutra, Shaakhaa are of course the tags for > the identification of a follower of Vedic Path. > Usually, these are limited to Brahmin class, but also found in many > Kshatriya, Vaishya classes. Shudra class is not found > to have any such tags, except when a Shudra assumes the profession of > Sthapati(sculptor), Lohakaara(Black-smith), > SvarnaKaara(Gold-smith) etc, particularly when dealing with temple > and god, rather a holy vedic entity. So for a non-Hindu > obviously, there is no tag. Yet, there is a provision for these tags > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas - > become a disciple of a GURU who has original tags or simply a well > IDENTIFIED GURU! > > One who does not know his lineage, can adopt his master's, for the > sake of identification and for the completion > of Vedic formalities. It is also seen from the past that if father's > GOTRA is unknown, mother's(ie maternal) GOTRA > is assumed or for the sake of legal matters, a maternal uncle would > adopt the boy/girl to give his own GOTRA. > So, for simplicity sake, 'Cow-protectors', studying VEDAS and > following vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana- > Apastambha etc Sutra according to their practice, > and the oldest RIK shaakha as their choice, but guided by the > preceptor. > > Though, tags were made a MUST during the strict smriti period, it === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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