Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Mr. Tanvir, Namaskar, Jyotisha is not only the scienc of tendencies but it is closely related to Karma Sidhanta. The fruits we enjoy are the results of previews Karma. It can not be avoided by anybody. An Astrologer will get an intuition to give a prediction. The intruition is based on the signals received by the Almighty God. According to the same he will release the prediction. That is the reason why an Astrologer need be a Upasaka. With the Upasana he will get Vaakshuddhi. VaakShuddhi is very much necessary to an Astrologer. Without an Upasana He can not be an Astrologer. As said the accuracy of the Predictions given by an astrologer is only upto 75% only. Claiming that one will predict to the extent of 100% is truly a false. An Astrologer has to maintain the sanctity of the profession. With being sanctum sanctorum he can not be a Astrologer. An Astrologer has to pray the God for the well being of his client. "Chatus Sagara Paryantam Go Brahmana Subham Bhavatu". I can say You have to pray the God for the Loka Kalyana. Well being of the universe. Therefore an Astrologer should have two essential qualifications: 1. Should be thorough with the Subject and must have studied the Vedaangas, 2. Should be an Upasaka. Without having these two qualifications, he can not be an astrologer. Claiming himself being astrologer without these two qualifications, resulting into putting himself in the wrong path and cheating the people. Brahmasri N. Vishweshwar Rao Daivajna, Consultant Astrologer & Sidhanti. , "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote: > Hello Tanvir: > > What SP Tata did is outright crooked and unbecoming of a Jyotish. > > A real jyotish is the one who above petty jealousy. > > A real Jyotish is the one who lights a Jyoti into the hearts and > thought-process of the people who consul him/her. > > Sudeep Suri has clarified on the V-A board and to me personally that > his intent was to figure-out why Sanjay's prediction didn't come true > and not to malign Sanjay in anyway. > > This fellow named SP Tata used Sudeep's mail to launch an internet- > wide agenda to malign Sanjay--what a shame. > > Mukund > > , "Tanvir Chowdhury" > <lord_narayana@l...> wrote: > > Hello Mr. Tata, > > > > I appreciate your concern about your opinion that the private paid > > reading should not be discussed in public. It is good to see that > one > > astrologer hopes that another astrologer would get the fairness he > > deserves. Today the world of astrology is a mess since astrologers > > from different schools envy each other. So your fairness and just > is > > appreciated in this regard. > > > > However, there are also facts in your post that I do not appreciate > > at all. The complaint was made in another list, and it is enough > when > > you protest it right there. However, you have made replies to the > > post to other lists, where even the original post did not appear, > > such as Gjlist, and this list. So what is the point of replying to > > these lists? Only people of the Vedic-Astrology list would know > this, > > seeing the post. But when you have replied to other lists, where > even > > the original posts did not appear, you actually helped the person > to > > announce it even better. > > > > There is no reason in this post to reply here because even the > > original post was not posted here. Rather this is to announce the > > complaint even better. > > > > Also you have pulled in the topic of police cases out of all > sudden, > > out of a stream. He did not mention it anywhere it is you who is > > mentioning it. > > > > So what you did, is rather a better announcement of it than > > protesting it. This is noted, so please do not repeat such > > performances in this list again. No need to reply posts those were > > posted in another list. > > > > Thanks, > > Tanvir. > > > > > > , "Pandit S.P.Tata" > > <sptata@a...> wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Sudeep Suri, > > > > > > As a professional astrologer I find the enclosed mail by you to > > Sanjay > > > Rath (regarding the failure of his prediction in your case) in > very > > > bad taste. > > > > > > First of all let me make it very clear that I have never met > Sanjay > > > Rath, I am not his student and I am not his follower - especially > > in > > > view of his running away from Delhi to avoid police arrest in his > > > famous fraud case. > > > > > > However I do not appreciate your parading his prediction failure > in > > > public. Astrologers maintain client privacy and don't talk about > > > questions asked or advise given. If Sanjay Rath discusses your > > private > > > sex life in public you'll not like it. Similarly we astrologers > > also > > > expect some fairness from the people to whom we give > predictions. > > > > > > The Vedic astrology principles given by our ancient seers are r > > 100% > > > true. It is we astrologers whose knowledge has its limitations. > We > > > don't have the spritual Divya Gyan of our ancients. As there are > > > millions of combinations to study, its impossible to be 100% > right > > for > > > any astrologer. I have been practicing Vedic astrology for more > > than > > > 20 years, studied more than a couple of dozen astrology sashtras, > I > > > run my own astrology website - www.astrojyoti.com - I am > fortunate > > to > > > have a relative like the world famous astrologer K.N.Rao to guide > > me > > > whenever I seek advise, but in spite of all that am only about > 75% > > > correct. There are those 25% predictions, which do go wrong. The > > day > > > we are 100% right we'll be in heaven with Rishi Bhrigu and Rishi > > > Parashara and not here. > > > > > > With thousands of the best scientists working and after spending > > > billions of US$, NASA can't guarantee its satellites. The doctors > > make > > > wrong diagnosis even after cat scans and dog scans, the bridges > > built > > > by engineers crash and the accountants and financial advisers to > > > nations flop frequently to cause economic crashes. But their > > > professions and their sciences are not questioned. But the moment > > an > > > astrologer fails people are willing to indulge in sarcastic > > > mudslinging in public. > > > Just a decade ago our doctors and the medical bureaucrats were > > openly > > > ridiculing Ayurveda. But once the Yankees got on to it and > started > > > patenting our formulae, we have an alternate medicine dept. and > > sing > > > international songs about our cultural heritage. I suppose our > > press > > > and public will recognize Vedic astrology only when Harvard > > University > > > starts teaching it!! > > > > > > I am sure you have received some correct predictions also from > some > > > astrologers. Have you acknowledged them in public like this? > > > > > > I sincerely request all group members to refrain from this kind > of > > > mudslinging sarcasm. > > > With regards > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > - > > > sudeep suri > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:37 PM > > > [vedic astrology] TO SANJAY RATHJI > > > > > > DEAR SANJAY RATH JI MAHARAJ > > > Reference my astrological consultation with you on 29 JAN 2004 > VIA > > > telephone.After the consultation you sent me an audio casette of > > > predictions(OUR TAPED CONVERSATION ). > > > > > > NOW 6 months down the line I find that all your predictions are > > > incorrect.Your most important prediction was that in MAY 2004 in > > KETU > > > pratyantar I will get something fantastic and that in JULY 2004 I > > will > > > be in USA. Sir JULY is finished I am in INDIA and I never got > > anything > > > FANTASTIC as you mentioned in MAY 2004. > > > > > > I am wondering WHY YOU HAVE GONE WRONG because you took lot of > > pains > > > to explain the astrological reasoning behind it.So DOES THIS MEAN > > > ASTROLOGY IS NO SCIENCE OR YOUR REASONING AND ANALYSIS IS > INCORRECT > > I > > > WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW. > > > REGARDS > > > SUDEEP > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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