Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Dear Rafal ji, As jupiter is 7th lord and 4th lord for virgo lagna. Therefore guru will create badha for the lagna and 10th house i.e. job or work and in its dasha or antardasha it will create badha due to 7th house and 4th house matters. Can u explain it to me further. Thanks and Regards Tarun. Rafal Gendarz wrote: > Dear Gaurav jain, > > If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak > sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And > problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be > diagnosed. > Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > - > ** yobrevol <yobrevol > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, > > I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans > clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose > their inherent qualities. > > For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak > house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be > focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... > > BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and > mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup > Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do > you make of that? > > Looking forward to a learning experience... > > namaste > Gaurav jain > > In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > e writes: > > Dear All, > > During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo > considerable > persecution due to Jove's angular ownership. > > Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The > native will lose > the comforts of life. > > Thanx & regards, > > G Kumar > > Astro scholar, programmer & ceo > www.e.com > www.astrologiavedica.com > www.astrognosis.com > > Free Astro Consultancy & Prediction > > > - > "Tarun" <tarun.virgo > <> > Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as > badhak for > > a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What > are the > > characteristics of guru as badhak > > > > I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social > life.do it > > also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or > AL is Fix > > sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that. > > > > thanks and Regards > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > Vedic > </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free+v\ edic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDevlqgA> > Vedic astrology > </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology\ &w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU4fmYDwYrEv2UNA> > Free vedic astrology > </gads?t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astr\ ology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5NzTK1sUgWPYpsiOIY\ z9Qg> > > Sjc > </gads?t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free+ved\ ic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-c1XWsVsDlQ> > Jyotish > </gads?t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free\ +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJwPEOiQ> > > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group " > <>" on the web. > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 For Gemini Lagnam, Jupiter owns the 7th and 10th house, being posited in the 2nd house with Mercury(Lagna Lord & Fourth lord)can be considered as aupicious.Both are enemy grahas,but their association is not definately a blemish.Jupiter in Exaltation in the 2nd House considered Sunapa Yoga.Unless Jupiter is debilitaed in Navmasa, the Uccha Isthana benefit will prevail.Look in Bhava were Jupiter is posited.There are three stars in Kataka ,Punar Pusam, Poosam, and Ayilyam, Unless on of this star become Naidana tara,then Jupiter will curtail its benefic results.Badhaka exalted will surely do better positive than negative. Hariom Satguru R.S.Maniam --- yobrevol wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, > > I wish to know the basis of your general statement. > Gurujans clearly tell us > that benefics are still benefics and do not loose > their inherent qualities. > > For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th > being bhadak house for > all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be > focusing on 7th house > issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... > > BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with > jupiter and mercury in 2nd > house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup > Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I > have started my own business., what do you make of > that? > > Looking forward to a learning experience... > > namaste > Gaurav jain > > In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > e writes: > > Dear All, > > During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will > undergo considerable > persecution due to Jove's angular ownership. > > Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of > comforts. The native will lose > the comforts of life. > > Thanx & regards, > > G Kumar > > Astro scholar, programmer & ceo > www.e.com > www.astrologiavedica.com > www.astrognosis.com > > Free Astro Consultancy & Prediction > > > - > "Tarun" <tarun.virgo > <> > Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > I wish to know that how can we interpretate > Guru(jupiter) as badhak for > > a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. > jupiter. What are the > > characteristics of guru as badhak > > > > I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers > the social life.do it > > also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is > dual sign or AL is Fix > > sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that. > > > > thanks and Regards > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > _Click Here!_ > (http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM) > > --~-> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta > Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I shall try and catch COVA. Please educate me on pret badhaka- how can we simply say any combinations of sani+ rahu will be Pret Badhaka?should they not be in the badhaka sign anyway's?...I am reading from Sarjit ji's blog spot. With venus in lagna and mars aspecting 7th house, celibacy is far opposite of reality for me as sexuality is at the core of desires. Therefore natal chart dasa of Jupiter means a lot. You are not clear on your stand here-: Job or Business? Lastly, so is it good to wear gem for Badhaka lord??? what are your views on that ( imperially speaking) ? I am from the Anukul school of thought until someone convinces me otherwise. Lets say for example tarus rising will have sani as 9th lord but also a yogakarka so.... I am wearing a Jyotish Quality Yellow Sapphire since December 2005. I thank you for this learning experience.... Namaste Gaurav Jain In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:41:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav, comments in purple. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Monday, February 13, 2006 6:29 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I write below your comments in green... Namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/12/2006 3:01:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav, comments in red. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:34 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafalji, comments below your comments... Namaste from Gaurav Jain - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:58 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, Your prasna about past is largely true, my marriage was a direct result of my father. Now, I will gain some money because of engineering or communication skills in near future? I am not too sure as I am not related to any of those. I am in the jewelry industry and sell gems and jewels... [Rafal] Please keep it with this kind of work. Your Surya is in eleventh from AL and tenth in D-10. Gaurav: Not sure what you mean here, Sun in 11th from AL and 10th from moon in rasi, and 10th in D10 is merely indicative of fame and power/authority...where does engineering/communication skills and gains thereof come from? [Rafal] I meant jewelry indicated by Surya. Fame comes from Moon and Jupiter infleuncing Kendra to L / AL. Power from Raja Yoga's. Authority from Sisya-s - fifth. Gaurav : since when does jewelry is indicated by Surya???? or what kind??? i have never known any jewels being indicated by surya, please share your understanding... [Rafal] You should get COVA from Sanjay Rath. Its very good book. On Page 423 there is indication of every Graha and work accordingly.. As for the attraction to the girl, completely wrong !( unless I am unaware of my own attractions to women). [Rafal] That was little risky prediction. Gaurav: May I know your reasoning for learning purposes, maybe the Prasna itself.. [Rafal] First You have to know if Prasna is coming from Lord Jagganath. This You know by seeing the Lagna in Navamsa of Prasna if its' trines to Natal Lagna then this we can go step further. Then see the Navamsa for past and read it like Rasi chart, then go to Rasi - prasna for seeing present sitation. Its good if You can get mp3 of London conference where was Prasna-lecture from Sanjay Ji. Gaurav : understood. lets talk about Jupiter again, Now in D9 it is in saggitarius in 8th house and has travelled 6 houses from rasi to D9, so should it not generally give 6th house results..I mean most likely I am going to take up a job in 1st week march is an indication enough do you not think...otherwise with the onset of Guru MD, and its placement in 7th house in D10, should have ensured a switch from service to business..... [Rafal] Jupiter aspects vital Grahas in D-10. Gaurav : well it is sitting in 7th in D10 with graha and rasi dristi to mangal in 3rd and moon( btw who is 6th lord) with graha dristi and sat + rahu in cap 12th house with rasi dristi....so vital grahas aspecting is OK, but what to make of it? why the interview for job when jup strongly supports business... [Rafal] Primo : Guru aspects sixth lord. Gaurav: yes, but Guru itself in 7th is stronger logic. [Rafal] You are right therefore it could be buisness if Lagna is right, but generally sixth house is still stronger.. If You have Life-time celibacy in chart then seventh lord dasa doesnt mean much... first chart then dasas..but Your intuition is correct. Secundo : Maybe You have Pisces Lagna in d-10, but then Sun goes out from tenth house which is good indication of Your current work. Gaurav: Piseces perhaps not, mer and Ketu in 6th accurately describe my work life till dec 2005, take mer as LL from Rasi and Ketu from 9th house in rasi, so tahts working for father, now GURU MD should have ended this.... Point 3 : Guru has three yrs period...be patient. Gaurav: you are right, guru has only been 1.5 months , i should give it till march starts... >From March according to D-10 ND it will be much better time. Do you know anyone with jupiter in 2nd houses and dual lagna so that we can compare and learn? [Rafal] Chandra in forth house is imporant as it complet Graha-malika, it has parivartana with Guru-sisya Yoga in second house, almost Saraswati Yoga. It gives good times in field of knowledge. It can also mean some dotation on this cases (12 from AL). Gaurav: everyone says the same thing; big expenses, But what my mind fails to understand is how can one invest/expense Big if one Does Not have any Big Money?, we should first establish where the Big money comes from.... [Rafal] Preta badhak is giving inauspicious argala to second house but again Graha's in Lagna are defending. So they have a lot to say it seems. Again Buddha and Jupiter are Yogada's (HL conjoining). I see good situation in finances matters. Hope Guruji will coment on this. Gaurav: Where is Preta Badhaka here? gulika is not involved as it is in 5th house. good is relative perhaps, unless we are able to quantify it..currently, I am better than people who live on welfare, and worst then everyone else..lol (that's life) [Rafal] Sani Yuti Rahu. In the end my goal is to study bhadak effects for dual signs, and in my own case bhadak is exalted thereby little better (i think)... [Rafal] Its no little better, its very good, this Jupiter will help you coming out from badhak..try to see chart in Yoga's first, Jupiter is in Srimanth Yoga, Ra is in Preta Badhak, Chandra ends Graha-malik Yoga, Mars gives asubha Yoga, Ketu gives durbhagya yoga, Sun gives Dhimanth Yoga, Shukra gives Raja Yoga, Jupiter gives Dhana Yoga like that.. Gaurav: I was searching to find the defination os srimanth yoga...all the other yogas, yes, but I was telling Ganesha to start activating them soon, and he says he will..so lets see....haha.. On Badhaka, do you know the puranic logic behind choosing 7th from dual, 9th from fixed lagna etc.......???? [Rafal] Its all in Prasna Marga. Its connected to Tattwa. Eleventh house is for hearing (ninth from third). So chara Lagna's has problem with that, Dual has with seeing. They can see much more or less that is presented. Namaste Gaurav Jain Regards Rafal Gendarz Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 2/11/2006 4:19:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav! In past You should feel some obstacle and problems in your education/home and not be so much satisfied with work, Your relation-matters was very much in hand of your father but You get help from brahmanas = inteligent & religious persons and and like to study sastras. you also felt that you could gain some fame related to education connected to some machines. now you should feel little bounded with no freedom, you could gain some money related to engineering and communication skills. you could feel also some attraction to some girl right now...this is from prasna. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:58 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: /<*> To from this group, send an email to: <*> Your use of is subject to: Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji, I need to seriously ask that ..whenever i ask some question, i am never able to share my views while other members start to discuss their horoscope and the main topic is diverted to discussion of personal horoscope. Thanks and Regards Tarun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Gaurav, comments under. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:42 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I shall try and catch COVA. Please educate me on pret badhaka- how can we simply say any combinations of sani+ rahu will be Pret Badhaka?should they not be in the badhaka sign anyway's?...I am reading from Sarjit ji's blog spot. [Rafal] Preta badhak from first house to seventh gives problem with rites of mother, and there can be problem from this side of family, and sraddha is must in this case to alleviate problem. With venus in lagna and mars aspecting 7th house, celibacy is far opposite of reality for me as sexuality is at the core of desires. Therefore natal chart dasa of Jupiter means a lot. You are not clear on your stand here-: Job or Business? [Rafal] Your second lord in Navamsa is with Shukra. Shukra is in Panapahara from AL, and DK is in Kendra to AK, so You need it for sure. Lastly, so is it good to wear gem for Badhaka lord??? what are your views on that ( imperially speaking) ? I am from the Anukul school of thought until someone convinces me otherwise. [Rafal] It can cause to many expenses (12 from AL). Lets say for example tarus rising will have sani as 9th lord but also a yogakarka so.... I am wearing a Jyotish Quality Yellow Sapphire since December 2005. I thank you for this learning experience.... Namaste Gaurav Jain In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:41:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav, comments in purple. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Monday, February 13, 2006 6:29 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I write below your comments in green... Namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/12/2006 3:01:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav, comments in red. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:34 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafalji, comments below your comments... Namaste from Gaurav Jain - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:58 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, Your prasna about past is largely true, my marriage was a direct result of my father. Now, I will gain some money because of engineering or communication skills in near future? I am not too sure as I am not related to any of those. I am in the jewelry industry and sell gems and jewels... [Rafal] Please keep it with this kind of work. Your Surya is in eleventh from AL and tenth in D-10. Gaurav: Not sure what you mean here, Sun in 11th from AL and 10th from moon in rasi, and 10th in D10 is merely indicative of fame and power/authority...where does engineering/communication skills and gains thereof come from? [Rafal] I meant jewelry indicated by Surya. Fame comes from Moon and Jupiter infleuncing Kendra to L / AL. Power from Raja Yoga's. Authority from Sisya-s - fifth. Gaurav : since when does jewelry is indicated by Surya???? or what kind??? i have never known any jewels being indicated by surya, please share your understanding... [Rafal] You should get COVA from Sanjay Rath. Its very good book. On Page 423 there is indication of every Graha and work accordingly.. As for the attraction to the girl, completely wrong !( unless I am unaware of my own attractions to women). [Rafal] That was little risky prediction. Gaurav: May I know your reasoning for learning purposes, maybe the Prasna itself.. [Rafal] First You have to know if Prasna is coming from Lord Jagganath. This You know by seeing the Lagna in Navamsa of Prasna if its' trines to Natal Lagna then this we can go step further. Then see the Navamsa for past and read it like Rasi chart, then go to Rasi - prasna for seeing present sitation. Its good if You can get mp3 of London conference where was Prasna-lecture from Sanjay Ji. Gaurav : understood. lets talk about Jupiter again, Now in D9 it is in saggitarius in 8th house and has travelled 6 houses from rasi to D9, so should it not generally give 6th house results..I mean most likely I am going to take up a job in 1st week march is an indication enough do you not think...otherwise with the onset of Guru MD, and its placement in 7th house in D10, should have ensured a switch from service to business..... [Rafal] Jupiter aspects vital Grahas in D-10. Gaurav : well it is sitting in 7th in D10 with graha and rasi dristi to mangal in 3rd and moon( btw who is 6th lord) with graha dristi and sat + rahu in cap 12th house with rasi dristi....so vital grahas aspecting is OK, but what to make of it? why the interview for job when jup strongly supports business... [Rafal] Primo : Guru aspects sixth lord. Gaurav: yes, but Guru itself in 7th is stronger logic. [Rafal] You are right therefore it could be buisness if Lagna is right, but generally sixth house is still stronger.. If You have Life-time celibacy in chart then seventh lord dasa doesnt mean much... first chart then dasas..but Your intuition is correct. Secundo : Maybe You have Pisces Lagna in d-10, but then Sun goes out from tenth house which is good indication of Your current work. Gaurav: Piseces perhaps not, mer and Ketu in 6th accurately describe my work life till dec 2005, take mer as LL from Rasi and Ketu from 9th house in rasi, so tahts working for father, now GURU MD should have ended this.... Point 3 : Guru has three yrs period...be patient. Gaurav: you are right, guru has only been 1.5 months , i should give it till march starts... >From March according to D-10 ND it will be much better time. Do you know anyone with jupiter in 2nd houses and dual lagna so that we can compare and learn? [Rafal] Chandra in forth house is imporant as it complet Graha-malika, it has parivartana with Guru-sisya Yoga in second house, almost Saraswati Yoga. It gives good times in field of knowledge. It can also mean some dotation on this cases (12 from AL). Gaurav: everyone says the same thing; big expenses, But what my mind fails to understand is how can one invest/expense Big if one Does Not have any Big Money?, we should first establish where the Big money comes from.... [Rafal] Preta badhak is giving inauspicious argala to second house but again Graha's in Lagna are defending. So they have a lot to say it seems. Again Buddha and Jupiter are Yogada's (HL conjoining). I see good situation in finances matters. Hope Guruji will coment on this. Gaurav: Where is Preta Badhaka here? gulika is not involved as it is in 5th house. good is relative perhaps, unless we are able to quantify it..currently, I am better than people who live on welfare, and worst then everyone else..lol (that's life) [Rafal] Sani Yuti Rahu. In the end my goal is to study bhadak effects for dual signs, and in my own case bhadak is exalted thereby little better (i think)... [Rafal] Its no little better, its very good, this Jupiter will help you coming out from badhak..try to see chart in Yoga's first, Jupiter is in Srimanth Yoga, Ra is in Preta Badhak, Chandra ends Graha-malik Yoga, Mars gives asubha Yoga, Ketu gives durbhagya yoga, Sun gives Dhimanth Yoga, Shukra gives Raja Yoga, Jupiter gives Dhana Yoga like that.. Gaurav: I was searching to find the defination os srimanth yoga...all the other yogas, yes, but I was telling Ganesha to start activating them soon, and he says he will..so lets see....haha.. On Badhaka, do you know the puranic logic behind choosing 7th from dual, 9th from fixed lagna etc.......???? [Rafal] Its all in Prasna Marga. Its connected to Tattwa. Eleventh house is for hearing (ninth from third). So chara Lagna's has problem with that, Dual has with seeing. They can see much more or less that is presented. Namaste Gaurav Jain Regards Rafal Gendarz Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 2/11/2006 4:19:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav! In past You should feel some obstacle and problems in your education/home and not be so much satisfied with work, Your relation-matters was very much in hand of your father but You get help from brahmanas = inteligent & religious persons and and like to study sastras. you also felt that you could gain some fame related to education connected to some machines. now you should feel little bounded with no freedom, you could gain some money related to engineering and communication skills. you could feel also some attraction to some girl right now...this is from prasna. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:58 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || namaste Rafal, I thank you for this learning thread, shall keep you posted on the developments. Namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/14/2006 7:20:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav, comments under. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:42 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I shall try and catch COVA. Please educate me on pret badhaka- how can we simply say any combinations of sani+ rahu will be Pret Badhaka?should they not be in the badhaka sign anyway's?...I am reading from Sarjit ji's blog spot. [Rafal] Preta badhak from first house to seventh gives problem with rites of mother, and there can be problem from this side of family, and sraddha is must in this case to alleviate problem. With venus in lagna and mars aspecting 7th house, celibacy is far opposite of reality for me as sexuality is at the core of desires. Therefore natal chart dasa of Jupiter means a lot. You are not clear on your stand here-: Job or Business? [Rafal] Your second lord in Navamsa is with Shukra. Shukra is in Panapahara from AL, and DK is in Kendra to AK, so You need it for sure. Lastly, so is it good to wear gem for Badhaka lord??? what are your views on that ( imperially speaking) ? I am from the Anukul school of thought until someone convinces me otherwise. [Rafal] It can cause to many expenses (12 from AL). Lets say for example tarus rising will have sani as 9th lord but also a yogakarka so.... I am wearing a Jyotish Quality Yellow Sapphire since December 2005. I thank you for this learning experience.... Namaste Gaurav Jain In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:41:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav, comments in purple. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Monday, February 13, 2006 6:29 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, I write below your comments in green... Namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/12/2006 3:01:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav, comments in red. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:34 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafalji, comments below your comments... Namaste from Gaurav Jain - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:58 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Rafal, Your prasna about past is largely true, my marriage was a direct result of my father. Now, I will gain some money because of engineering or communication skills in near future? I am not too sure as I am not related to any of those. I am in the jewelry industry and sell gems and jewels... [Rafal] Please keep it with this kind of work. Your Surya is in eleventh from AL and tenth in D-10. Gaurav: Not sure what you mean here, Sun in 11th from AL and 10th from moon in rasi, and 10th in D10 is merely indicative of fame and power/authority...where does engineering/communication skills and gains thereof come from? [Rafal] I meant jewelry indicated by Surya. Fame comes from Moon and Jupiter infleuncing Kendra to L / AL. Power from Raja Yoga's. Authority from Sisya-s - fifth. Gaurav : since when does jewelry is indicated by Surya???? or what kind??? i have never known any jewels being indicated by surya, please share your understanding... [Rafal] You should get COVA from Sanjay Rath. Its very good book. On Page 423 there is indication of every Graha and work accordingly.. As for the attraction to the girl, completely wrong !( unless I am unaware of my own attractions to women). [Rafal] That was little risky prediction. Gaurav: May I know your reasoning for learning purposes, maybe the Prasna itself.. [Rafal] First You have to know if Prasna is coming from Lord Jagganath. This You know by seeing the Lagna in Navamsa of Prasna if its' trines to Natal Lagna then this we can go step further. Then see the Navamsa for past and read it like Rasi chart, then go to Rasi - prasna for seeing present sitation. Its good if You can get mp3 of London conference where was Prasna-lecture from Sanjay Ji. Gaurav : understood. lets talk about Jupiter again, Now in D9 it is in saggitarius in 8th house and has travelled 6 houses from rasi to D9, so should it not generally give 6th house results..I mean most likely I am going to take up a job in 1st week march is an indication enough do you not think...otherwise with the onset of Guru MD, and its placement in 7th house in D10, should have ensured a switch from service to business..... [Rafal] Jupiter aspects vital Grahas in D-10. Gaurav : well it is sitting in 7th in D10 with graha and rasi dristi to mangal in 3rd and moon( btw who is 6th lord) with graha dristi and sat + rahu in cap 12th house with rasi dristi....so vital grahas aspecting is OK, but what to make of it? why the interview for job when jup strongly supports business... [Rafal] Primo : Guru aspects sixth lord. Gaurav: yes, but Guru itself in 7th is stronger logic. [Rafal] You are right therefore it could be buisness if Lagna is right, but generally sixth house is still stronger.. If You have Life-time celibacy in chart then seventh lord dasa doesnt mean much... first chart then dasas..but Your intuition is correct. Secundo : Maybe You have Pisces Lagna in d-10, but then Sun goes out from tenth house which is good indication of Your current work. Gaurav: Piseces perhaps not, mer and Ketu in 6th accurately describe my work life till dec 2005, take mer as LL from Rasi and Ketu from 9th house in rasi, so tahts working for father, now GURU MD should have ended this.... Point 3 : Guru has three yrs period...be patient. Gaurav: you are right, guru has only been 1.5 months , i should give it till march starts... >From March according to D-10 ND it will be much better time. Do you know anyone with jupiter in 2nd houses and dual lagna so that we can compare and learn? [Rafal] Chandra in forth house is imporant as it complet Graha-malika, it has parivartana with Guru-sisya Yoga in second house, almost Saraswati Yoga. It gives good times in field of knowledge. It can also mean some dotation on this cases (12 from AL). Gaurav: everyone says the same thing; big expenses, But what my mind fails to understand is how can one invest/expense Big if one Does Not have any Big Money?, we should first establish where the Big money comes from.... [Rafal] Preta badhak is giving inauspicious argala to second house but again Graha's in Lagna are defending. So they have a lot to say it seems. Again Buddha and Jupiter are Yogada's (HL conjoining). I see good situation in finances matters. Hope Guruji will coment on this. Gaurav: Where is Preta Badhaka here? gulika is not involved as it is in 5th house. good is relative perhaps, unless we are able to quantify it..currently, I am better than people who live on welfare, and worst then everyone else..lol (that's life) [Rafal] Sani Yuti Rahu. In the end my goal is to study bhadak effects for dual signs, and in my own case bhadak is exalted thereby little better (i think)... [Rafal] Its no little better, its very good, this Jupiter will help you coming out from badhak..try to see chart in Yoga's first, Jupiter is in Srimanth Yoga, Ra is in Preta Badhak, Chandra ends Graha-malik Yoga, Mars gives asubha Yoga, Ketu gives durbhagya yoga, Sun gives Dhimanth Yoga, Shukra gives Raja Yoga, Jupiter gives Dhana Yoga like that.. Gaurav: I was searching to find the defination os srimanth yoga...all the other yogas, yes, but I was telling Ganesha to start activating them soon, and he says he will..so lets see....haha.. On Badhaka, do you know the puranic logic behind choosing 7th from dual, 9th from fixed lagna etc.......???? [Rafal] Its all in Prasna Marga. Its connected to Tattwa. Eleventh house is for hearing (ninth from third). So chara Lagna's has problem with that, Dual has with seeing. They can see much more or less that is presented. Namaste Gaurav Jain Regards Rafal Gendarz Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 2/11/2006 4:19:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Gaurav! In past You should feel some obstacle and problems in your education/home and not be so much satisfied with work, Your relation-matters was very much in hand of your father but You get help from brahmanas = inteligent & religious persons and and like to study sastras. you also felt that you could gain some fame related to education connected to some machines. now you should feel little bounded with no freedom, you could gain some money related to engineering and communication skills. you could feel also some attraction to some girl right now...this is from prasna. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:58 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: /<*> To from this group, send an email to: <*> Your use of is subject to: Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Dear Gaurav, Jupiter and Venus are dangerous as angular lords ( Kendradhipatya Doshasthu Balavan Guru Shukrayoh ). Thadobhaye Kama Grihe Trayanam - For Ubhaya Rasis, 7th lord is Badhaka. I beg to differ regarding the statement that natural benefics do not lose their beneficence. Jove and Dione can be dangerous as angular lords ! During my Venusian reign, I came under severe persecution, due to Venus's kendradhipatya & badhakadhipatya. Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you, G Kumar Astro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.com Mob - +91 93885 56053Email - info (AT) e (DOT) comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:28 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: /<*> To from this group, send an email to: <*> Your use of is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste G.Kumar ji, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you might as well be right, but I am at a stage where I am still forming my opinions; and I take what ever is in the shastras to be the true and then learn its understanding from the gurus. The Parampara teaches us that jup being a kendra lord 2 times over, it loses the extent/effect/degree/potency of it being a benefic, but Does Not become a Melefic. As to the bhadkesh, you are right. As I understand jupiter will give obstacles with effect to 7th house via its house placement. namaste Gaurav message dated 2/25/2006 3:22:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in writes: Dear Gaurav, Jupiter and Venus are dangerous as angular lords ( Kendradhipatya Doshasthu Balavan Guru Shukrayoh ). Thadobhaye Kama Grihe Trayanam - For Ubhaya Rasis, 7th lord is Badhaka. I beg to differ regarding the statement that natural benefics do not lose their beneficence. Jove and Dione can be dangerous as angular lords ! During my Venusian reign, I came under severe persecution, due to Venus's kendradhipatya & badhakadhipatya. Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you, G Kumar Astro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.com Mob - +91 93885 56053Email - info (AT) e (DOT) comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:28 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dear Gaurav, I am a also a part of the Parampara. I am a disciple of HIs Holiness Maharshi Mahes Yoga, who follows the Shankara tradition. Narayanam Padmabhavam Vasishtam ............. I just voiced what is corroborated by experience. Jupiter is a functional malefic for Virgo and Gemini, because of his angular lordship and Badhakadhipatya. To what extent Jove can harm, one can see from Augustus Caesar's horoscope. He was born with Libra rising, Venus and Saturn in Libra and Jupiter in Cancer. During the reign of Jupiter, he lost the war. Jove, being the 3rd and 6th lord. Similarly Jove with Kendradhipatya and Badhakadhipatya doshas can harm the native Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you, G Kumar Astro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.com Mob - +91 93885 56053Email - info (AT) e (DOT) comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:29 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste G.Kumar ji, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you might as well be right, but I am at a stage where I am still forming my opinions; and I take what ever is in the shastras to be the true and then learn its understanding from the gurus. The Parampara teaches us that jup being a kendra lord 2 times over, it loses the extent/effect/degree/potency of it being a benefic, but Does Not become a Melefic. As to the bhadkesh, you are right. As I understand jupiter will give obstacles with effect to 7th house via its house placement. namaste Gaurav message dated 2/25/2006 3:22:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in writes: Dear Gaurav, Jupiter and Venus are dangerous as angular lords ( Kendradhipatya Doshasthu Balavan Guru Shukrayoh ). Thadobhaye Kama Grihe Trayanam - For Ubhaya Rasis, 7th lord is Badhaka. I beg to differ regarding the statement that natural benefics do not lose their beneficence. Jove and Dione can be dangerous as angular lords ! During my Venusian reign, I came under severe persecution, due to Venus's kendradhipatya & badhakadhipatya. Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you, G Kumar Astro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.com Mob - +91 93885 56053Email - info (AT) e (DOT) comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:28 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me. I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) . If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some).... Namaste Gaurav Jain 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl writes: Dear Gaurav jain, If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed. Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted. Regards Rafal Gendarz - yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji, I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities. For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc... BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that? Looking forward to a learning experience... namaste Gaurav jain In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in writes: Dear All,During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose the comforts of life.Thanx & regards,G KumarAstro scholar, programmer & ceowww.e.comwww.astrologiavedica.comwww.astrognosis.comFree Astro Consultancy & Prediction- "Tarun" <tarun.virgo ><>Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> Dear Visti ji,>>> I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> characteristics of guru as badhak>> I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.>> thanks and Regards> Tarun>>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>> ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healingClick Here!--~-> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: /<*> To from this group, send an email to: <*> Your use of is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dear Gaurav and G. Kumar, namaskar. Kendradhipatya dosha is cancelled if the kendradhipaty is connected to the trine houses (1,5,9 houses) as it lifes the blessings of Vishnu and Lakshmi forming rajayogas. Also, if one of the kendras is 1H, the kendradhipaty dosha is not there as 1H is both Kendra and Kona. Besides it will be lagna lord and will never harm the native. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= , e <e wrote:>> Dear Gaurav,> > I am a also a part of the Parampara. I am a disciple of HIs Holiness Maharshi Mahes Yoga, who follows the Shankara tradition. Narayanam Padmabhavam Vasishtam ............ > > I just voiced what is corroborated by experience. Jupiter is a functional malefic for Virgo and Gemini, because of his angular lordship and Badhakadhipatya.> > To what extent Jove can harm, one can see from Augustus Caesar's horoscope. He was born with Libra rising, Venus and Saturn in Libra and Jupiter in Cancer. During the reign of Jupiter, he lost the war. Jove, being the 3rd and 6th lord. Similarly Jove with Kendradhipatya and Badhakadhipatya doshas can harm the native> > Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you,> > G Kumar> > Astro scholar, programmer & ceo> www.e.com> www.astrologiavedica.com> www.astrognosis.com> > Mob - +91 93885 56053> Email - info Free Astro Consultancy & Prediction> ----- Original Message ----- > yobrevol > > Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:29 AM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Namaste G.Kumar ji,> > Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you might as well be right, but I am at a stage where I am still forming my opinions; and I take what ever is in the shastras to be the true and then learn its understanding from the gurus.> > The Parampara teaches us that jup being a kendra lord 2 times over, it loses the extent/effect/degree/potency of it being a benefic, but Does Not become a Melefic. As to the bhadkesh, you are right. As I understand jupiter will give obstacles with effect to 7th house via its house placement.> > namaste> Gaurav> > message dated 2/25/2006 3:22:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, eastro writes:> Dear Gaurav,> > Jupiter and Venus are dangerous as angular lords ( Kendradhipatya Doshasthu Balavan Guru Shukrayoh ).> > Thadobhaye Kama Grihe Trayanam - For Ubhaya Rasis, 7th lord is Badhaka. > > I beg to differ regarding the statement that natural benefics do not lose their beneficence. Jove and Dione can be dangerous as angular lords !> > During my Venusian reign, I came under severe persecution, due to Venus's kendradhipatya & badhakadhipatya. > > Thanking for giving us a chance to serve you,> > G Kumar> > Astro scholar, programmer & ceo> www.e.com> www.astrologiavedica.com> www.astrognosis.com> > Mob - +91 93885 56053> Email - info Free Astro Consultancy & Prediction> > - > yobrevol > > Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:28 AM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Aaha ! srimanth yoga sounds candy to me.> > I am not sure if i can exactly classify myself as rich, the opposite might me more accurate. BTW; you predicted for me that in dec 05 I will start some business partnership, and I congratulate you on your prediction ( though it is not a partnership) .> > If I understand you correct, then Jupiter as bhadak lord in 2nd is not good for saving money ( if I ever am able to make some)....> > Namaste> Gaurav Jain> 3rd July 1979, 6.18.30am , Jaipur> > In a message dated 2/10/2006 3:10:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, starsuponme writes:> Dear Gaurav jain,> > If Badhakesh is well-placed then obstacle is removed (if also badhak sthan is clear), badhakesh cause mainly problem to house placed. And problem have agantuka (not clear) traits. Like diseases with cannot be diagnosed.> Lord of Lagna with seventh lord is srimanth yoga and jupiter is exalted.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > yobrevol > To: > Friday, February 10, 2006 2:06 AM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Namaste Sri. G Kumar Ji,> > I wish to know the basis of your general statement. Gurujans clearly tell us that benefics are still benefics and do not loose their inherent qualities.> > For virgo lagna, jupiter lords 4th & 7th, with 7th being bhadak house for all dual signs. So if anything, the lessons must be focusing on 7th house issues and not 4th house of comfort etc...> > BTW: I am also a dual sign ( gemini) lagna, with jupiter and mercury in 2nd house, and incidentally, with the onset of jup Mahadasa (dec 28th 2005), I have started my own business., what do you make of that?> > Looking forward to a learning experience...> > namaste> Gaurav jain> > In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, e writes:> Dear All,> > During Jupiterian reign ( Dasa ), the native will undergo considerable > persecution due to Jove's angular ownership.> > Jove's Badhakadhipatya manifests as loss of comforts. The native will lose > the comforts of life.> > Thanx & regards,> > G Kumar> > Astro scholar, programmer & ceo> www.e.com> www.astrologiavedica.com> www.astrognosis.com> > Free Astro Consultancy & Prediction> > > - > "Tarun" tarun.virgo > Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 PM> [Om Krishna Guru] Guru as Badhak> > > > Dear Visti ji,> >> >> > I wish to know that how can we interpretate Guru(jupiter) as badhak for> > a virgo lagna. The placements of Badhak i.e. jupiter. What are the> > characteristics of guru as badhak> >> > I also wish to know that as 7th from AL hampers the social life.do it> > also sees the badhak from al too like if AL is dual sign or AL is Fix> > sign. do the badhak rule also applies in that.> >> > thanks and Regards> > Tarun> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> > Links> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > > > > ----> > > a.. 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