The Dalai Lama and its discussion

March 29, 2006

Dear Neena,

You Wrote:

//jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible

for

his great knowlegde of scriptures.//

I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th)..

"We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note Jupiter's

dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's

aspect on

9th/10th lord."

Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see the

effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship

of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house.

As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th)

"8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as

opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no

doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the

effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan

people."

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"neenako" <neenako

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

-

Dear Wendy, Patrice and all,

The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the

rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon.

This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy.

Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and

ofcourse religious.

Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the

aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this

placement remains.

jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for

his great knowlegde of scriptures.

While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini

or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house

shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would

be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd

house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points

to poor financial state of his family at birth.

This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna.

>From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th house

shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture would

have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this Saturn.

the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn reflect

his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize.

I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back

soon.

In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too.

As ever,

Neena

March 29, 2006

PS: We also have to consider the effect of Mars aspect on Sagittarius

(Jupiter's moolatrikona). If we consider Sagittarius as his 8th house

(Taurus) then the aspect of Mars renders a very good description of

the Chinese (red) army, wouldn't you say :-)

____________________________

Dear Neena,

You Wrote:

//jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible

for his great knowlegde of scriptures.//

I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th)..

"We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note Jupiter's

dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's

aspect on 9th/10th lord."

Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see the

effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship

of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house.

As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th)

"8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as

opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no

doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the

effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan

people."

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"neenako" <neenako

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

-

Dear Wendy, Patrice and all,

The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the

rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon.

This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy.

Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and

ofcourse religious.

Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the

aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this

placement remains.

jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for

his great knowlegde of scriptures.

While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini

or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house

shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would

be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd

house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points

to poor financial state of his family at birth.

This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna.

>From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th house

shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture would

have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this Saturn.

the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn reflect

his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize.

I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back

soon.

In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too.

As ever,

Neena

March 29, 2006

-

Dear Wendy,

You are absolutely right.

The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces

me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m.

give or take a few minutes.

He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.

Regards,

Neena

-- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> PS: We also have to consider the effect of Mars aspect on

Sagittarius

> (Jupiter's moolatrikona). If we consider Sagittarius as his 8th

house

> (Taurus) then the aspect of Mars renders a very good description of

> the Chinese (red) army, wouldn't you say :-)

> ____________________________

>

> Dear Neena,

>

> You Wrote:

> //jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible

> for his great knowlegde of scriptures.//

>

> I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th)..

> "We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note

Jupiter's

> dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's

> aspect on 9th/10th lord."

>

> Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see

the

> effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship

> of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house.

>

> As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th)

> "8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as

> opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no

> doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the

> effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan

> people."

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "neenako" <neenako

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM

> Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

>

> -

> Dear Wendy, Patrice and all,

>

> The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the

> rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon.

> This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy.

> Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and

> ofcourse religious.

>

> Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the

> aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this

> placement remains.

>

> jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible

for

> his great knowlegde of scriptures.

>

> While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini

> or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house

> shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would

> be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd

> house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points

> to poor financial state of his family at birth.

> This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna.

>

> From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th

house

> shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture

would

> have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this

Saturn.

> the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn

reflect

> his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize.

>

> I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back

> soon.

>

> In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too.

>

> As ever,

> Neena

>

March 29, 2006

Dear Neena,

//He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.//

This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at least

and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest

software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running dasa

of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna along

with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was

aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was transiting

Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-)

....i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who

occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and

Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the

nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc, etc..

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"neenako" <neenako

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

-

Dear Wendy,

You are absolutely right.

The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces

me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m.

give or take a few minutes.

He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.

Regards,

Neena

March 29, 2006

--

Dear Wendy,

During the course of researching DL, I came across several sites

saying that he is good at diplomacy.

Diplomacy is more related to Gemini asc but if you study this further

diplomacy (as it is generally understood ) is very often laced with

hypocrisy to some extent. Now this is a quality no one would

associate with DL .

If you take the Taurus ascendant, we have 7th lord Mars in the 5th

house. While being bad for progeny, it makes him a super

salesperson, with a gift of the gab. He is selling the tibetan

cause to the world very well. He is Tibet's best representative.

Regards,

Neena

- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

>

> //He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

> India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.//

>

> This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at least

> and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest

> software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running

dasa

> of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna along

> with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was

> aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was

transiting

> Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-)

>

> ...i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who

> occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and

> Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the

> nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc,

etc..

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "neenako" <neenako

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM

> Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

>

> -

> Dear Wendy,

>

> You are absolutely right.

>

> The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces

> me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m.

> give or take a few minutes.

>

> He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

> India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neena

>

March 30, 2006

P.S. Notice that Saturn was transiting over Rahu, when he escaped

to India with his entourage.

saturn's transit over Rahu or vice versa is very troublesome.

jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote:

>

> --

> Dear Wendy,

>

> During the course of researching DL, I came across several sites

> saying that he is good at diplomacy.

>

> Diplomacy is more related to Gemini asc but if you study this

further

>

> diplomacy (as it is generally understood ) is very often laced

with

> hypocrisy to some extent. Now this is a quality no one would

> associate with DL .

>

> If you take the Taurus ascendant, we have 7th lord Mars in the 5th

> house. While being bad for progeny, it makes him a super

> salesperson, with a gift of the gab. He is selling the tibetan

> cause to the world very well. He is Tibet's best representative.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neena

> - In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neena,

> >

> > //He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

> > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.//

> >

> > This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at

least

> > and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest

> > software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running

> dasa

> > of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna

along

> > with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was

> > aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was

> transiting

> > Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-)

> >

> > ...i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who

> > occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and

> > Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the

> > nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc,

> etc..

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

> >

> > -

> > "neenako" <neenako@>

> > <jyotish-vidya>

> > Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM

> > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

> >

> > -

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > You are absolutely right.

> >

> > The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it

convinces

> > me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-

30a.m.

> > give or take a few minutes.

> >

> > He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to

> > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neena

> >

>

April 1, 2006

Dear Neena,

Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile

possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant?

Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to

have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be

exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at

the transits of Rahu both times.

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

April 1, 2006

-

Shri Acharya,

Birthtime of Dalai Lama is not clearly recorded anywhere. There are

so many versions of it on the net.

Whether it is Gemini Lagna or Taurus is in the realm of conjectures.

His Rashi is clearly Leo and Moon is vargottama.

You have asked " how is it possible that Moon - Rahu gave him exile

and Rahu - Moon gave him the Nobel?"

Before I endeavour to place my views on this , I must mention here

that as far as trying to make you or anyone understand why it is so,

I am afraid I cannot presume that I am in a position to make anyone

understand.

What I put forward are my views and I can definitely tell you and

others the reasons for the same. It may or may not be acceptable,

but let me try:

During Moon - Rahu consider the transits. Saturn was transiting over

the antardasa of Rahu while Jupiter was in the 12th from Rahu.

Rahu was at the mercy of Saturn. Its placement in the 8th house was

aggravated due to the transit of Saturn, with no help from the

benefic Jupiter.

During Rahu- Moon, again Saturn was transiting over Rahu but with a

huge difference. Jupiter was transiting through Gemini absorbing the

mischief of Saturn to a very large extent, and thereby changing the

nature of the transit for the better.

>From the Moon this transit of Saturn and Jupiter was along the 5th -

11th axis. The antardasa lord Moon was not affected by Saturn unlike

the Rahu antardasa in Moon.

Hence the difference.

If you have gone through the horoscope of DL please let us have your

views on it too. One can only learn from an exchange of views.

And there is so much to learn.....

Neena

-- In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

<acharya.vasudev wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

> Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile

> possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant?

> Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like

to

> have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to

be

> exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please

look at

> the transits of Rahu both times.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

April 1, 2006

Hello Vasudev,

//One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel

prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded

Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both

times.//

The DL actually received the award (honour) Dec 10 1989, I believe.

On that date bhukti lord Moon was transiting 12th in nakshatra of

lagna lord Venus who, along with dasa lord Rahu, was transiting 9th.

When he fled Tibet; Moon, conjunct 12th lord (in lagna), was

transiting nakshatra of 12th lord himself whilst lagnesh Venus was

transiting 12th in nakshatra of Ketu who, along with 4th lord Sun,

was transiting 8th from 4th. If you look closely you'll see much more

that supports this.

I'm quite sure you know all this, Vasudev, so I really have to wonder

why you'd ask this question. The last time we had a lengthy debate

was regarding Pope Benedict's chart (if I'm not mistaken).

It would be nice if you could contribute to the discussions here in a

meaningful way. If you have something constructive to say about the

DL's chart I would certainly like to hear it.

You're invited also to add your comments on the latest chart put

forward for discussion...Jane Roberts. Who knows, we might even find

something we can agree upon :-)

There are many here who, I'm sure, would like to have the opinion of

one who is said to be an authority in all five branches of

astrology... http://www.acharyavasudev.com/Acharya.html

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"Acharya Vasudev" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:29 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Dear Neena,

Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile

possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant?

Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to

have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be

exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look

at the transits of Rahu both times.

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

April 1, 2006

Dear Neena,

You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that time.What

do you think

where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we consider

the transits from the ascendants too.?

Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my knowledge

it must be considered quite a important transit.

When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His Mars

and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his sign from

Aquarius to Capricorn.

Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with both

lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing transits.

Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of reversal

of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear about

his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

-----------------------------

April 1, 2006

Hello Mrs. Wendy,

No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to

Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about

His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have

pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new

light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her

in a meaningful way only.

If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive

discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute.

I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words

:meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology:

Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

---------------------

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote:

>

> Hello Vasudev,

>

> //One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel

> prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded

> Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both

> times.//

>

> The DL actually received the award (honour) Dec 10 1989, I believe.

> On that date bhukti lord Moon was transiting 12th in nakshatra of

> lagna lord Venus who, along with dasa lord Rahu, was transiting 9th.

>

> When he fled Tibet; Moon, conjunct 12th lord (in lagna), was

> transiting nakshatra of 12th lord himself whilst lagnesh Venus was

> transiting 12th in nakshatra of Ketu who, along with 4th lord Sun,

> was transiting 8th from 4th. If you look closely you'll see much more

> that supports this.

>

> I'm quite sure you know all this, Vasudev, so I really have to wonder

> why you'd ask this question. The last time we had a lengthy debate

> was regarding Pope Benedict's chart (if I'm not mistaken).

> It would be nice if you could contribute to the discussions here in a

> meaningful way. If you have something constructive to say about the

> DL's chart I would certainly like to hear it.

>

> You're invited also to add your comments on the latest chart put

> forward for discussion...Jane Roberts. Who knows, we might even find

> something we can agree upon :-)

>

> There are many here who, I'm sure, would like to have the opinion of

> one who is said to be an authority in all five branches of

> astrology... http://www.acharyavasudev.com/Acharya.html

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "Acharya Vasudev" <acharya.vasudev

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:29 PM

> Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

>

> Dear Neena,

> Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile

> possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant?

> Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to

> have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be

> exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look

> at the transits of Rahu both times.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

April 1, 2006

Hello Vasudev,

//No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to

Neenaji.//

Then it's my mistake entirely. I assumed, from what is written on

your website, that you would have no need to ask for clarification.

//I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words

:meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology:

Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.//

Yes, you are wrong. I do concede that my (sometimes) sharp manner of

expression can appear as sarcasm to some. However, I assure you, none

was intended in this instance. My intention rather was to prod you

into offering your thoughts on the chart with the sole purpose of

meaningful discussion (which benefits all who participate, students

and experienced astrologers alike...don't you agree?)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"vijai_vasudev" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:47 AM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Hello Mrs. Wendy,

No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to

Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about

His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have

pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new

light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her

in a meaningful way only.

If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive

discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute.

I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words

:meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology:

Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

---------------------

April 1, 2006

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal

remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is

still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel

Prize? Please stick to astrology only.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

-------------------------

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote:

>

> Hello Vasudev,

>

> //No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to

> Neenaji.//

>

> Then it's my mistake entirely. I assumed, from what is written on

> your website, that you would have no need to ask for clarification.

>

> //I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words

> :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology:

> Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.//

>

> Yes, you are wrong. I do concede that my (sometimes) sharp manner of

> expression can appear as sarcasm to some. However, I assure you, none

> was intended in this instance. My intention rather was to prod you

> into offering your thoughts on the chart with the sole purpose of

> meaningful discussion (which benefits all who participate, students

> and experienced astrologers alike...don't you agree?)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "vijai_vasudev" <acharya.vasudev

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:47 AM

> Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

>

> Hello Mrs. Wendy,

>

> No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to

> Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about

> His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have

> pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new

> light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her

> in a meaningful way only.

>

> If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive

> discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute.

>

> I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words

> :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology:

> Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

> ---------------------

>

April 1, 2006

Hello Vasudev,

//My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house

give one a Nobel Prize?//

Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We

also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains in

relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize winner,

also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can

certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein,

Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by Mars

whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of

status, renown etc..

PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the

recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is

always on the same date.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:40 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal

remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is

still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel

Prize? Please stick to astrology only.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

-------------------------

April 1, 2006

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel

Prize Winners,How can I say that?

rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not.

As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu

dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in

Sun-Venus.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

------------------------

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote:

>

> Hello Vasudev,

>

> //My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house

> give one a Nobel Prize?//

>

> Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We

> also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains in

> relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize winner,

> also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can

> certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein,

> Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by Mars

> whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of

> status, renown etc..

>

> PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the

> recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is

> always on the same date.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:40 PM

> Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal

> remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is

> still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel

> Prize? Please stick to astrology only.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

> -------------------------

>

April 1, 2006

Dear Acharya Vasudev,

Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that

you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no

meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going

to learn ?

Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across

various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps

taurus and not Gemini.

As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though

the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give

honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in

8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied

experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such

a dasa of Rahu has seen it all.

DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself

and his people.

Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu (

located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa,

mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless

the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as

Jupiter.

No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but

based on dasas and transits.

I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to

ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great

acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which

results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the

same result.

In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter

and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting

aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the

ascendant.

Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the

chart that may have been overlooked by me.

Neena

jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

<acharya.vasudev wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

> You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

> difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that

time.What

> do you think

> where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we

consider

> the transits from the ascendants too.?

> Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my

knowledge

> it must be considered quite a important transit.

> When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His

Mars

> and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his

sign from

> Aquarius to Capricorn.

> Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with

both

> lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

transits.

> Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of

reversal

> of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear

about

> his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

> -----------------------------

>

April 1, 2006

--

P.S.

You have asked if I have seen any other horoscopes which show such a

reversal in effects. In any horoscope you study the effects will not

be the same every time the same planets come together as MD/ AD.

- In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

<acharya.vasudev wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

> You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

> difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that

time.What

> do you think

> where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we

consider

> the transits from the ascendants too.?

> Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my

knowledge

> it must be considered quite a important transit.

> When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His

Mars

> and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his

sign from

> Aquarius to Capricorn.

> Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with

both

> lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

transits.

> Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of

reversal

> of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear

about

> his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

> -----------------------------

>

April 1, 2006

Vasudev,

According to the data I have for Einstein, the Nobel prize was

awarded during MO-MO-MA dasa. Transit Mars, conjunct RA, JU and SA in

4th house (Virgo), was aspecting 10th house. Transit Moon (depending

on accuracy of time and location of ceremony) and Ketu were passing

through 10th house.

In natal chart, Mars conjuncts Rahu in 8th. Natal Rahu occupies

nakshatra of (dasa/bhukti lord) Moon.

Albert Einstein

Mar 14 1879 (11:30)

Ulm, Baden-Wurttemberg

Germany

Lagna: 19°27'39"

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel

Prize Winners,How can I say that?

rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not.

As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in

Rahu

dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in

Sun-Venus.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

------------------------

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Hello Vasudev,

>

> //My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house

> give one a Nobel Prize?//

>

> Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We

> also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains

> in

> relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize

> winner,

> also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can

> certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein,

> Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by

> Mars

> whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of

> status, renown etc..

>

> PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the

> recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is

> always on the same date.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

April 1, 2006

PS: An interesting observation regarding the transit of Ketu through

10th. If I'm not mistaken, Einstein was unable to attend the

ceremony...

__________________________

Vasudev,

According to the data I have for Einstein, the Nobel prize was

awarded during MO-MO-MA dasa. Transit Mars, conjunct RA, JU and SA in

4th house (Virgo), was aspecting 10th house. Transit Moon (depending

on accuracy of time and location of ceremony) and Ketu were passing

through 10th house.

In natal chart, Mars conjuncts Rahu in 8th. Natal Rahu occupies

nakshatra of (dasa/bhukti lord) Moon.

Albert Einstein

Mar 14 1879 (11:30)

Ulm, Baden-Wurttemberg

Germany

Lagna: 19°27'39"

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel

Prize Winners,How can I say that?

rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not.

As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in

Rahu

dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in

Sun-Venus.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

------------------------

April 2, 2006

//In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.//

According to my data he was running RA-MO-ME dasa at the time of his

death. Please take a look at the transits - notably Rahu's transit in

12th from natal position etc..

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel

Prize Winners,How can I say that?

rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not.

As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in

Rahu

dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in

Sun-Venus.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

------------------------

April 2, 2006

Dear Neena,

Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements.

Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ?

Few of them I may point out here..

Rahu in the 8th should be

1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas.

2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics.

3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga.

4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet.

Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th

house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by

Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical

sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is

considered good even by Sage Parashara.

You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can give

good results in 8th house.Please Let us know.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

--------------------------

jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote:

>

> Dear Acharya Vasudev,

>

> Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that

> you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no

> meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going

> to learn ?

>

> Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across

> various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps

> taurus and not Gemini.

>

> As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though

> the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give

> honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in

> 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied

> experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such

> a dasa of Rahu has seen it all.

>

> DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself

> and his people.

>

> Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu (

> located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa,

> mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless

> the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as

> Jupiter.

>

> No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but

> based on dasas and transits.

>

> I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to

> ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great

> acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which

> results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the

> same result.

>

> In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter

> and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting

> aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the

> ascendant.

>

> Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the

> chart that may have been overlooked by me.

>

> Neena

>

> jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

> <acharya.vasudev@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neena,

> > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

> > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that

> time.What

> > do you think

> > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we

> consider

> > the transits from the ascendants too.?

> > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my

> knowledge

> > it must be considered quite a important transit.

> > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His

> Mars

> > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his

> sign from

> > Aquarius to Capricorn.

> > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with

> both

> > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

> transits.

> > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of

> reversal

> > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear

> about

> > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> > Acharya Vasudev

> >

> > -----------------------------

> >

>

April 2, 2006

P.S.-Obviously the results will not be same but can there be such big

reversal.?

Please give your views considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus as

you are so sure of that.You still avoiding that while discussing Rahu

dasha.

Sincerely

Acharya Vasudev

---------------------

jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote:

>

> --

> P.S.

>

> You have asked if I have seen any other horoscopes which show such a

> reversal in effects. In any horoscope you study the effects will not

> be the same every time the same planets come together as MD/ AD.

> - In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

> <acharya.vasudev@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neena,

> > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

> > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that

> time.What

> > do you think

> > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we

> consider

> > the transits from the ascendants too.?

> > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my

> knowledge

> > it must be considered quite a important transit.

> > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His

> Mars

> > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his

> sign from

> > Aquarius to Capricorn.

> > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with

> both

> > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

> transits.

> > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of

> reversal

> > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear

> about

> > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> > Acharya Vasudev

> >

> > -----------------------------

> >

>

April 2, 2006

jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya"

<acharya.vasudev wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

>

> Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements.

> Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ?

> Few of them I may point out here..

> Rahu in the 8th should be

>

> 1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas.

> 2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics.

> 3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga.

> 4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet.

>

> Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th

> house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by

> Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical

> sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is not

> considered good even by Sage Parashara.

>

> You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can give

> good results in 8th house.Please Let us know.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Acharya Vasudev

>

> --------------------------

jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Acharya Vasudev,

> >

> > Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that

> > you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no

> > meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going

> > to learn ?

> >

> > Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across

> > various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps

> > taurus and not Gemini.

> >

> > As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though

> > the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give

> > honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in

> > 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied

> > experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such

> > a dasa of Rahu has seen it all.

> >

> > DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself

> > and his people.

> >

> > Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu (

> > located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa,

> > mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless

> > the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as

> > Jupiter.

> >

> > No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but

> > based on dasas and transits.

> >

> > I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to

> > ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great

> > acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which

> > results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the

> > same result.

> >

> > In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter

> > and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting

> > aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the

> > ascendant.

> >

> > Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the

> > chart that may have been overlooked by me.

> >

> > Neena

> >

> > jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

> > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neena,

> > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this

> > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that

> > time.What

> > > do you think

> > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we

> > consider

> > > the transits from the ascendants too.?

> > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my

> > knowledge

> > > it must be considered quite a important transit.

> > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His

> > Mars

> > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his

> > sign from

> > > Aquarius to Capricorn.

> > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with

> > both

> > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

> > transits.

> > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of

> > reversal

> > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear

> > about

> > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

> > >

> > > Sincerely

> > >

> > > Acharya Vasudev

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

> > >

> >

>

April 2, 2006

--

shri Vasudev,

Tell me your reasons for Gemini lagna. I know there are many and I

have not been sure as I had said in my earlier post.

Maybe your reasons will resolve the doubts.

Neena

- In jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya"

<acharya.vasudev wrote:

>

> jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya"

> <acharya.vasudev@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neena,

> >

> > Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements.

> > Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ?

> > Few of them I may point out here..

> > Rahu in the 8th should be

> >

> > 1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas.

> > 2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics.

> > 3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga.

> > 4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet.

> >

> > Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th

> > house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited

by

> > Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an

enimical

> > sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is

not

> > considered good even by Sage Parashara.

> >

> > You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can

give

> > good results in 8th house.Please Let us know.

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> > Acharya Vasudev

> >

> > --------------------------

> >

> > jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Acharya Vasudev,

> > >

> > > Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad

that

> > > you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no

> > > meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we

going

> > > to learn ?

> > >

> > > Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come

across

> > > various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is

perhaps

> > > taurus and not Gemini.

> > >

> > > As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad

though

> > > the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it

can give

> > > honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So,

Rahu in

> > > 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied

> > > experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone

through such

> > > a dasa of Rahu has seen it all.

> > >

> > > DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for

himself

> > > and his people.

> > >

> > > Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu (

> > > located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa,

> > > mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place

unless

> > > the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as

> > > Jupiter.

> > >

> > > No, I am not giving the results due to any particular

Ascendant, but

> > > based on dasas and transits.

> > >

> > > I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and

tried to

> > > ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great

> > > acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor

which

> > > results in the award. So obviously there are different roads

to the

> > > same result.

> > >

> > > In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun,

Jupiter

> > > and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not

getting

> > > aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the

> > > ascendant.

> > >

> > > Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of

the

> > > chart that may have been overlooked by me.

> > >

> > > Neena

> > >

> > > jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev

> > > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neena,

> > > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer.

> > > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made

this

> > > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at

that

> > > time.What

> > > > do you think

> > > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case

we

> > > consider

> > > > the transits from the ascendants too.?

> > > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in

my

> > > knowledge

> > > > it must be considered quite a important transit.

> > > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting

over His

> > > Mars

> > > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing

his

> > > sign from

> > > > Aquarius to Capricorn.

> > > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible

with

> > > both

> > > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing

> > > transits.

> > > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind

of

> > > reversal

> > > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results.

> > > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not

clear

> > > about

> > > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know !

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely

> > > >

> > > > Acharya Vasudev

> > > >

> > > > -----------------------------

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 2, 2006

Vasudev,

//Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th

house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by

Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical

sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is

considered good even by Sage Parashara.//

Indeed Rahu in Sagittarius IS considered favourable - so too is 8th

lord's placement in 6th. Although the house containing Rahu is

influenced by aspecting planets, Rahu (traditionally) is neither

aspected nor does he give aspects. We've had this conversation before

so you're well aware of my views on this.

8th house in DL's chart is occupied by Rahu and aspected by 4th/5th

lords (SU/ME) from 2nd as well as 12th lord Mars from 5th. As all of

your questions have been answered, perhaps you'd care to give a

reading of the chart...

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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