Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Dear Neena, You Wrote: //jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for his great knowlegde of scriptures.// I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th).. "We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note Jupiter's dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's aspect on 9th/10th lord." Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see the effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house. As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th) "8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan people." Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion - Dear Wendy, Patrice and all, The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon. This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy. Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and ofcourse religious. Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this placement remains. jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for his great knowlegde of scriptures. While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points to poor financial state of his family at birth. This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna. >From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th house shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture would have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this Saturn. the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn reflect his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize. I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back soon. In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too. As ever, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 PS: We also have to consider the effect of Mars aspect on Sagittarius (Jupiter's moolatrikona). If we consider Sagittarius as his 8th house (Taurus) then the aspect of Mars renders a very good description of the Chinese (red) army, wouldn't you say :-) ____________________________ Dear Neena, You Wrote: //jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for his great knowlegde of scriptures.// I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th).. "We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note Jupiter's dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's aspect on 9th/10th lord." Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see the effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house. As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th) "8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan people." Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion - Dear Wendy, Patrice and all, The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon. This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy. Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and ofcourse religious. Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this placement remains. jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for his great knowlegde of scriptures. While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points to poor financial state of his family at birth. This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna. >From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th house shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture would have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this Saturn. the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn reflect his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize. I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back soon. In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too. As ever, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 - Dear Wendy, You are absolutely right. The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m. give or take a few minutes. He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu. Regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > PS: We also have to consider the effect of Mars aspect on Sagittarius > (Jupiter's moolatrikona). If we consider Sagittarius as his 8th house > (Taurus) then the aspect of Mars renders a very good description of > the Chinese (red) army, wouldn't you say :-) > ____________________________ > > Dear Neena, > > You Wrote: > //jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible > for his great knowlegde of scriptures.// > > I agree! And also as I'd said in previous mails (Mar 16th).. > "We know that Tibetan Buddhism is tantric by nature - Note Jupiter's > dispositorship of Rahu (in 8th) and consider again (this) Jupiter's > aspect on 9th/10th lord." > > Jupiter, owning 8th is a double edged sword (I believe) as we see the > effects according to his natural significations; his dispositorship > of Rahu and his lordship of 8th (moolatrikona) house. > > As I wrote in previous mail (also on 16th) > "8th house, as we know, shows our enemies...enemies in battle as > opposed to 6th house competitors/rivals/vices etc.. There can be no > doubt of the significance of 8th lord's aspect on Saturn and the > effect it had on his position as (all-over) leader of the Tibetan > people." > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "neenako" <neenako > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:36 AM > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > > - > Dear Wendy, Patrice and all, > > The moon rasi is very strong due to Moon being vargottama. From the > rasi, Venus is 10th lord situated in rasi with the moon. > This makes him intelligent, learned and wealthy. > Moon also makes him a good conversationalist, a good orator and > ofcourse religious. > > Most importantly, in this chart both Sun and Saturn receive the > aspect of GURU (Jupiter). Irrespective of the ascendant, this > placement remains. > > jupiters aspect to the Sun in the sign of Mercury is responsible for > his great knowlegde of scriptures. > > While we were having the discussion on whether DL's asc. was Gemini > or Taurus, I found that Taurus asc with Mercury in the 2nd house > shows the poor state of his family but it also showed that he would > be learned, softspoken intelligent. Sun's situation in the 2nd > house gives affliction to eyes. Ketu in the 2nd house also points > to poor financial state of his family at birth. > This is not corroborated by Gemini lagna. > > From Leo Rasi the placement of Saturn in mooltrikon in the 7th house > shows great following that he has, globally. The whole picture would > have been different if Jupiter's aspect was not there on this Saturn. > the mutual aspect of the 10th lord Venus and 7th lord Saturn reflect > his acheivements against all odds, including the Nobel peace prize. > > I am still studying other aspects of the chart and will come back > soon. > > In the meanwhile would like to hear your views on the subject too. > > As ever, > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Dear Neena, //He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.// This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at least and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running dasa of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna along with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was transiting Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-) ....i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc, etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion - Dear Wendy, You are absolutely right. The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m. give or take a few minutes. He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu. Regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 -- Dear Wendy, During the course of researching DL, I came across several sites saying that he is good at diplomacy. Diplomacy is more related to Gemini asc but if you study this further diplomacy (as it is generally understood ) is very often laced with hypocrisy to some extent. Now this is a quality no one would associate with DL . If you take the Taurus ascendant, we have 7th lord Mars in the 5th house. While being bad for progeny, it makes him a super salesperson, with a gift of the gab. He is selling the tibetan cause to the world very well. He is Tibet's best representative. Regards, Neena - In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > //He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.// > > This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at least > and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest > software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running dasa > of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna along > with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was > aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was transiting > Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-) > > ...i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who > occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and > Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the > nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc, etc.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "neenako" <neenako > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > - > Dear Wendy, > > You are absolutely right. > > The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces > me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3-30a.m. > give or take a few minutes. > > He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu. > > Regards, > > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 P.S. Notice that Saturn was transiting over Rahu, when he escaped to India with his entourage. saturn's transit over Rahu or vice versa is very troublesome. jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote: > > -- > Dear Wendy, > > During the course of researching DL, I came across several sites > saying that he is good at diplomacy. > > Diplomacy is more related to Gemini asc but if you study this further > > diplomacy (as it is generally understood ) is very often laced with > hypocrisy to some extent. Now this is a quality no one would > associate with DL . > > If you take the Taurus ascendant, we have 7th lord Mars in the 5th > house. While being bad for progeny, it makes him a super > salesperson, with a gift of the gab. He is selling the tibetan > cause to the world very well. He is Tibet's best representative. > > Regards, > > Neena > - In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > //He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to > > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu.// > > > > This seems a fairly good confirmation of one (major) event at least > > and certainly helps to confirm the chart. According to my latest > > software (using time of 03:32, time zone -07.00) he was running > dasa > > of MO-RA-JU. Moon, owning 12th from 4th, was transiting lagna along > > with 12th lord Mars...transiting 8th lord Jupiter in 7th was > > aspecting lagna from Scorpio whilst lagna lord Venus was > transiting > > Aries (12th house)...there's more to see if you look :-) > > > > ...i.e., Rahu transiting 8th from 10th in sign of Mercury who > > occupies Pisces (Jupiter's sign) along with 4th lord Sun and > > Ketu...Pisces owns 8th from 4th. Both Moon and Mars were in the > > nakshatra of Mars himself - Rahu was in nakshatra of Moon etc, > etc.. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > > - > > "neenako" <neenako@> > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:36 PM > > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > > > - > > Dear Wendy, > > > > You are absolutely right. > > > > The more detailed study I make of DL's chart, the more it convinces > > me that ascendant has to be Taurus, and that too close to 3- 30a.m. > > give or take a few minutes. > > > > He became an exile due to warlike circumstances . He escaped to > > India in 1959, in the dasa of Moon/ Rahu. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neena > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Neena, Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant? Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both times. Thanks in advance. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 - Shri Acharya, Birthtime of Dalai Lama is not clearly recorded anywhere. There are so many versions of it on the net. Whether it is Gemini Lagna or Taurus is in the realm of conjectures. His Rashi is clearly Leo and Moon is vargottama. You have asked " how is it possible that Moon - Rahu gave him exile and Rahu - Moon gave him the Nobel?" Before I endeavour to place my views on this , I must mention here that as far as trying to make you or anyone understand why it is so, I am afraid I cannot presume that I am in a position to make anyone understand. What I put forward are my views and I can definitely tell you and others the reasons for the same. It may or may not be acceptable, but let me try: During Moon - Rahu consider the transits. Saturn was transiting over the antardasa of Rahu while Jupiter was in the 12th from Rahu. Rahu was at the mercy of Saturn. Its placement in the 8th house was aggravated due to the transit of Saturn, with no help from the benefic Jupiter. During Rahu- Moon, again Saturn was transiting over Rahu but with a huge difference. Jupiter was transiting through Gemini absorbing the mischief of Saturn to a very large extent, and thereby changing the nature of the transit for the better. >From the Moon this transit of Saturn and Jupiter was along the 5th - 11th axis. The antardasa lord Moon was not affected by Saturn unlike the Rahu antardasa in Moon. Hence the difference. If you have gone through the horoscope of DL please let us have your views on it too. One can only learn from an exchange of views. And there is so much to learn..... Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev <acharya.vasudev wrote: > > Dear Neena, > Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile > possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant? > Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to > have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be > exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at > the transits of Rahu both times. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hello Vasudev, //One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both times.// The DL actually received the award (honour) Dec 10 1989, I believe. On that date bhukti lord Moon was transiting 12th in nakshatra of lagna lord Venus who, along with dasa lord Rahu, was transiting 9th. When he fled Tibet; Moon, conjunct 12th lord (in lagna), was transiting nakshatra of 12th lord himself whilst lagnesh Venus was transiting 12th in nakshatra of Ketu who, along with 4th lord Sun, was transiting 8th from 4th. If you look closely you'll see much more that supports this. I'm quite sure you know all this, Vasudev, so I really have to wonder why you'd ask this question. The last time we had a lengthy debate was regarding Pope Benedict's chart (if I'm not mistaken). It would be nice if you could contribute to the discussions here in a meaningful way. If you have something constructive to say about the DL's chart I would certainly like to hear it. You're invited also to add your comments on the latest chart put forward for discussion...Jane Roberts. Who knows, we might even find something we can agree upon :-) There are many here who, I'm sure, would like to have the opinion of one who is said to be an authority in all five branches of astrology... http://www.acharyavasudev.com/Acharya.html Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Acharya Vasudev" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:29 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Dear Neena, Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant? Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both times. Thanks in advance. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Neena, You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that time.What do you think where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we consider the transits from the ascendants too.? Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my knowledge it must be considered quite a important transit. When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His Mars and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his sign from Aquarius to Capricorn. Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with both lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing transits. Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of reversal of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear about his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hello Mrs. Wendy, No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her in a meaningful way only. If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute. I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology: Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev --------------------- jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Hello Vasudev, > > //One clarity I would like to have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel > prize.How can it is possible to be exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded > Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look at the transits of Rahu both > times.// > > The DL actually received the award (honour) Dec 10 1989, I believe. > On that date bhukti lord Moon was transiting 12th in nakshatra of > lagna lord Venus who, along with dasa lord Rahu, was transiting 9th. > > When he fled Tibet; Moon, conjunct 12th lord (in lagna), was > transiting nakshatra of 12th lord himself whilst lagnesh Venus was > transiting 12th in nakshatra of Ketu who, along with 4th lord Sun, > was transiting 8th from 4th. If you look closely you'll see much more > that supports this. > > I'm quite sure you know all this, Vasudev, so I really have to wonder > why you'd ask this question. The last time we had a lengthy debate > was regarding Pope Benedict's chart (if I'm not mistaken). > It would be nice if you could contribute to the discussions here in a > meaningful way. If you have something constructive to say about the > DL's chart I would certainly like to hear it. > > You're invited also to add your comments on the latest chart put > forward for discussion...Jane Roberts. Who knows, we might even find > something we can agree upon :-) > > There are many here who, I'm sure, would like to have the opinion of > one who is said to be an authority in all five branches of > astrology... http://www.acharyavasudev.com/Acharya.html > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Acharya Vasudev" <acharya.vasudev > <jyotish-vidya> > Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:29 PM > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > > Dear Neena, > Please make me understand how Moon-Rahu dasha explains DL's exile > possible for Taurus ascendant only and not for Gemini ascendant? > Please make me understand this in detail.One clarity I would like to > have regarding Dalai Lama's Nobel prize.How can it is possible to be > exiled in Moon-Rahu and awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu-Moon?Please look > at the transits of Rahu both times. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hello Vasudev, //No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to Neenaji.// Then it's my mistake entirely. I assumed, from what is written on your website, that you would have no need to ask for clarification. //I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology: Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.// Yes, you are wrong. I do concede that my (sometimes) sharp manner of expression can appear as sarcasm to some. However, I assure you, none was intended in this instance. My intention rather was to prod you into offering your thoughts on the chart with the sole purpose of meaningful discussion (which benefits all who participate, students and experienced astrologers alike...don't you agree?) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "vijai_vasudev" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:47 AM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Hello Mrs. Wendy, No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her in a meaningful way only. If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute. I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology: Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel Prize? Please stick to astrology only. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------- jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Hello Vasudev, > > //No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to > Neenaji.// > > Then it's my mistake entirely. I assumed, from what is written on > your website, that you would have no need to ask for clarification. > > //I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words > :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology: > Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect.// > > Yes, you are wrong. I do concede that my (sometimes) sharp manner of > expression can appear as sarcasm to some. However, I assure you, none > was intended in this instance. My intention rather was to prod you > into offering your thoughts on the chart with the sole purpose of > meaningful discussion (which benefits all who participate, students > and experienced astrologers alike...don't you agree?) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "vijai_vasudev" <acharya.vasudev > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:47 AM > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > > Hello Mrs. Wendy, > > No, I don't know all this, that's why I was asking questions to > Neenaji.As She was saying in one of her post that she was sure about > His Holiness's lagna being Taurus,my queries and whatever I have > pointed out to her may incline her to see all this in a new > light.Nobody is perfect Mrs. Wendy and I think I am contributing her > in a meaningful way only. > > If you think that the points I have made are not part of constructive > discussions,please let me know,I may rethink to contribute. > > I may be wrong but I find a tinge of sarcasm in your words > :meaningful: and :Authority in all five branches of astrology: > Please treat your fellow being with little bit of respect. > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > --------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hello Vasudev, //My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel Prize?// Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains in relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize winner, also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein, Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by Mars whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of status, renown etc.. PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is always on the same date. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:40 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Dear Mrs. Wendy, Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel Prize? Please stick to astrology only. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel Prize Winners,How can I say that? rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not. As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in Sun-Venus. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------ jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Hello Vasudev, > > //My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house > give one a Nobel Prize?// > > Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We > also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains in > relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize winner, > also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can > certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein, > Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by Mars > whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of > status, renown etc.. > > PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the > recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is > always on the same date. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:40 PM > Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Is it possible in this list to continue without receiving personal > remarks and concentrate on astrological discussions only.My query is > still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house give one a Nobel > Prize? Please stick to astrology only. > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > ------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Acharya Vasudev, Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going to learn ? Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps taurus and not Gemini. As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such a dasa of Rahu has seen it all. DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself and his people. Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu ( located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa, mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as Jupiter. No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but based on dasas and transits. I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the same result. In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the ascendant. Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the chart that may have been overlooked by me. Neena jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev <acharya.vasudev wrote: > > Dear Neena, > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that time.What > do you think > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we consider > the transits from the ascendants too.? > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my knowledge > it must be considered quite a important transit. > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His Mars > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his sign from > Aquarius to Capricorn. > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with both > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing transits. > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of reversal > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear about > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 -- P.S. You have asked if I have seen any other horoscopes which show such a reversal in effects. In any horoscope you study the effects will not be the same every time the same planets come together as MD/ AD. - In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev <acharya.vasudev wrote: > > Dear Neena, > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that time.What > do you think > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we consider > the transits from the ascendants too.? > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my knowledge > it must be considered quite a important transit. > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His Mars > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his sign from > Aquarius to Capricorn. > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with both > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing transits. > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of reversal > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear about > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Vasudev, According to the data I have for Einstein, the Nobel prize was awarded during MO-MO-MA dasa. Transit Mars, conjunct RA, JU and SA in 4th house (Virgo), was aspecting 10th house. Transit Moon (depending on accuracy of time and location of ceremony) and Ketu were passing through 10th house. In natal chart, Mars conjuncts Rahu in 8th. Natal Rahu occupies nakshatra of (dasa/bhukti lord) Moon. Albert Einstein Mar 14 1879 (11:30) Ulm, Baden-Wurttemberg Germany Lagna: 19°27'39" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Dear Mrs. Wendy, My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel Prize Winners,How can I say that? rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not. As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in Sun-Venus. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------ jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Hello Vasudev, > > //My query is still unanswered that could Rahu placed in 8th house > give one a Nobel Prize?// > > Rahu, as we know, is capable of bestowing great worldly honours. We > also know that 8th house, being 11th from 10th, can indicate gains > in > relation to status etc. Albert Einstein, another Nobel Prize > winner, > also had Rahu in 8th...Rahu is a powerful planet here and can > certainly indicate such honours as the Nobel prize. For Einstein, > Rahu in 8th is conjunct Mars; for DL, Rahu in 8th is aspected by > Mars > whilst Rahu's dispositor (11th lord Jupiter) aspects 10th house of > status, renown etc.. > > PS: The Nobel Prize is always presented on Dec 10. Although the > recipients are notified prior to this, the official ceremony is > always on the same date. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 PS: An interesting observation regarding the transit of Ketu through 10th. If I'm not mistaken, Einstein was unable to attend the ceremony... __________________________ Vasudev, According to the data I have for Einstein, the Nobel prize was awarded during MO-MO-MA dasa. Transit Mars, conjunct RA, JU and SA in 4th house (Virgo), was aspecting 10th house. Transit Moon (depending on accuracy of time and location of ceremony) and Ketu were passing through 10th house. In natal chart, Mars conjuncts Rahu in 8th. Natal Rahu occupies nakshatra of (dasa/bhukti lord) Moon. Albert Einstein Mar 14 1879 (11:30) Ulm, Baden-Wurttemberg Germany Lagna: 19°27'39" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Dear Mrs. Wendy, My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel Prize Winners,How can I say that? rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not. As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in Sun-Venus. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 //In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.// According to my data he was running RA-MO-ME dasa at the time of his death. Please take a look at the transits - notably Rahu's transit in 12th from natal position etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:38 PM Re: The Dalai Lama and its Discussion Dear Mrs. Wendy, My point wasn't that Rahu could not be placed in 8th house for Nobel Prize Winners,How can I say that? rather I wanted to know whether it is posible in Rahu dasha or not. As far as Einstein is concerned he was not awarded Nobel Prize in Rahu dasha.In fact he died in Rahu-Moon.And he was awarded the honour in Sun-Venus. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Dear Neena, Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements. Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ? Few of them I may point out here.. Rahu in the 8th should be 1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas. 2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics. 3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga. 4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet. Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is considered good even by Sage Parashara. You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can give good results in 8th house.Please Let us know. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev -------------------------- jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote: > > > Dear Acharya Vasudev, > > Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that > you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no > meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going > to learn ? > > Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across > various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps > taurus and not Gemini. > > As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though > the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give > honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in > 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied > experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such > a dasa of Rahu has seen it all. > > DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself > and his people. > > Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu ( > located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa, > mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless > the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as > Jupiter. > > No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but > based on dasas and transits. > > I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to > ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great > acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which > results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the > same result. > > In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter > and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting > aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the > ascendant. > > Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the > chart that may have been overlooked by me. > > Neena > > > > jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that > time.What > > do you think > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we > consider > > the transits from the ascendants too.? > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my > knowledge > > it must be considered quite a important transit. > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His > Mars > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his > sign from > > Aquarius to Capricorn. > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with > both > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing > transits. > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of > reversal > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear > about > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > > > Sincerely > > > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 P.S.-Obviously the results will not be same but can there be such big reversal.? Please give your views considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus as you are so sure of that.You still avoiding that while discussing Rahu dasha. Sincerely Acharya Vasudev --------------------- jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako wrote: > > -- > P.S. > > You have asked if I have seen any other horoscopes which show such a > reversal in effects. In any horoscope you study the effects will not > be the same every time the same planets come together as MD/ AD. > - In jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that > time.What > > do you think > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we > consider > > the transits from the ascendants too.? > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my > knowledge > > it must be considered quite a important transit. > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His > Mars > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his > sign from > > Aquarius to Capricorn. > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with > both > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing > transits. > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of > reversal > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear > about > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > > > Sincerely > > > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements. > Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ? > Few of them I may point out here.. > Rahu in the 8th should be > > 1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas. > 2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics. > 3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga. > 4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet. > > Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th > house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by > Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical > sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is not > considered good even by Sage Parashara. > > You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can give > good results in 8th house.Please Let us know. > > Sincerely > > Acharya Vasudev > > -------------------------- jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Acharya Vasudev, > > > > Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that > > you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no > > meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going > > to learn ? > > > > Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across > > various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps > > taurus and not Gemini. > > > > As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though > > the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give > > honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in > > 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied > > experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such > > a dasa of Rahu has seen it all. > > > > DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself > > and his people. > > > > Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu ( > > located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa, > > mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless > > the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as > > Jupiter. > > > > No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but > > based on dasas and transits. > > > > I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to > > ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great > > acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which > > results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the > > same result. > > > > In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter > > and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting > > aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the > > ascendant. > > > > Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the > > chart that may have been overlooked by me. > > > > Neena > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev > > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neena, > > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that > > time.What > > > do you think > > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we > > consider > > > the transits from the ascendants too.? > > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my > > knowledge > > > it must be considered quite a important transit. > > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His > > Mars > > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his > > sign from > > > Aquarius to Capricorn. > > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with > > both > > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing > > transits. > > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of > > reversal > > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear > > about > > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 -- shri Vasudev, Tell me your reasons for Gemini lagna. I know there are many and I have not been sure as I had said in my earlier post. Maybe your reasons will resolve the doubts. Neena - In jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev wrote: > > jyotish-vidya, "Vijai Vasudev Acharya" > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > Under certain conditions Rahu can give honours and acheivements. > > Yes I do agree but what are those conditions ? > > Few of them I may point out here.. > > Rahu in the 8th should be > > > > 1.Associated or aspected by the lords of Trikonas. > > 2.Associated or aspected by the natural benefics. > > 3.A part of Vipareet Rajyoga. > > 4.Disposited by an yogakaraka planet. > > > > Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th > > house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by > > Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical > > sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is not > > considered good even by Sage Parashara. > > > > You may point out few other point and conditions where Rahu can give > > good results in 8th house.Please Let us know. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "neenako" <neenako@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Acharya Vasudev, > > > > > > Its good to see you responding with your views . And I am glad that > > > you have raised the questions that you have. If there is no > > > meaningful discussion and a give n' take of views how are we going > > > to learn ? > > > > > > Just as you are still studying the horoscope, I too come across > > > various sutras which lead me to think that the lagna is perhaps > > > taurus and not Gemini. > > > > > > As Wendy has said in her post, Rahu in the 8th is not all bad though > > > the books may say so. Under certain conditions , in fact it can give > > > honours and acheivements albeit with extreme hardships. So, Rahu in > > > 8th is not all black and not all white either.It gives varied > > > experiences in life. You could say someone who has gone through such > > > a dasa of Rahu has seen it all. > > > > > > DL's Nobel came to him after a great deal of struggle for himself > > > and his people. > > > > > > Another point, if one is going through the antardasa of Rahu ( > > > located in any house) and Saturn transits over that antardasa, > > > mishaps and inauspicious occurences are bound to take place unless > > > the effects of such a transit are tempered by benefics such as > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > No, I am not giving the results due to any particular Ascendant, but > > > based on dasas and transits. > > > > > > I have tried to study the horoscopes of Nobel winners and tried to > > > ascertain what is it about them that makes them such great > > > acheivers, but have not come across a single given factor which > > > results in the award. So obviously there are different roads to the > > > same result. > > > > > > In Dl's horoscope a beautiful trikon is formed by the Sun, Jupiter > > > and Saturn, with Jupiter aspecting the other two and not getting > > > aspected by them in return.This is a constant whatever the > > > ascendant. > > > > > > Do let us know your point of view also. There may be facets of the > > > chart that may have been overlooked by me. > > > > > > Neena > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, Acharya Vasudev > > > <acharya.vasudev@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > You have honestly tried and have given a good answer. > > > > If I understand it correctly ,in your views Jupiter made this > > > > difference, and Jupiter was transiting through Gemini at that > > > time.What > > > > do you think > > > > where should Jupiter be,in lagna or in 2nd house, in case we > > > consider > > > > the transits from the ascendants too.? > > > > Another curious transit is the transit of Rahu also and in my > > > knowledge > > > > it must be considered quite a important transit. > > > > When His Holiness was forced to exile Rahu was transiting over His > > > Mars > > > > and when he was awarded Nobel Prize,Rahu was just changing his > > > sign from > > > > Aquarius to Capricorn. > > > > Still my query remains the same.These logics are possible with > > > both > > > > lagnas as you haven't taken a notice of lagna while seeing > > > transits. > > > > Have you gone through any other horoscope where these kind of > > > reversal > > > > of dasha-antardasas made such a huge difference in results. > > > > I am trying to understand his horoscope slowly but still not clear > > > about > > > > his lagna.It is not a simple task, you know ! > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > Acharya Vasudev > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Vasudev, //Considering His Holiness's lagna as Taurus his Rahu placed in 8th house aspected by Maraka planets Mercury and Mars and disposited by Jupiter who is malefic for this lagna and is placed in an enimical sign in the 6th house.Rahu is placed in Sagittarius where it is considered good even by Sage Parashara.// Indeed Rahu in Sagittarius IS considered favourable - so too is 8th lord's placement in 6th. Although the house containing Rahu is influenced by aspecting planets, Rahu (traditionally) is neither aspected nor does he give aspects. We've had this conversation before so you're well aware of my views on this. 8th house in DL's chart is occupied by Rahu and aspected by 4th/5th lords (SU/ME) from 2nd as well as 12th lord Mars from 5th. As all of your questions have been answered, perhaps you'd care to give a reading of the chart... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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