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To Wendy Neena and All,

 

Here is the added article by T. Pat Davis written in 1984 regarding

Daylight Savings Time throughout the USA.

 

Under this article are the articles I referenced last evening in the

websites that did not transfer properly.

 

Uttara

 

http://www.starflash.com/mercury-hour/Davis2.htm

 

T. Patrick Davis

Orlando, FL

June 17, 1984

Re: TIME CHANGES. Marc Penfield rightly questions Gauquelin's

assumption that all summer births in Illinois were recorded in CDT

(Pg. 15, July '84 MH, in a comment on Karen Black's birth date). I

would suggest that readers make a nota-tion of the following

information in their "time standard" books so that we do not need to

keep "re-inventing the wheel" in this matter. Then pass it on to oth-

ers.

 

PRIOR TO JULY 1, 1959, as decreed by the Illinois legislature, all

births and deaths were to be recorded in Stand-ard Time even though

the area was using Daylight Time. The problem for astrologers arises

in the birth dates before this date. Chicago has always ignored the

state legislature and "did its own things." If Chicago was using

CDT, then births were recorded this way. I have data on people born

in the 1930's in Chicago which were clearly expressed in Daylight

Time. However, Springfield, the state capitol, and some of the small

towns surrounding the capitol, were apparently aware of the law and

followed it. Catholic hospitals followed the law, for the most part,

but non-Catholic hospitals are completely unpredictable. The time

standard expressed on a certifi-cate was completely dependent on the

nurse in attendance and her knowledge of the law.

 

EXAMPLE: Male born in Joliet, adjacent to Chicago, in a Catholic

hospi-tal, in 1955, on the day after CDT became effective in the

general area. His par-ents told him he was born very early in the

morning of April 25th. When his certificate was obtained, the date

given was April 24th with the time being short-ly before Midnight.

The recorder had deducted an hour for daylight-saving. The apparent

key here is that he was born in a Catholic hospital.

 

In the Peoria and Pekin area of Illinois, prior to 1959, I found a

com-plete hodgepodge of practices. Home births were usually

expressed in whatever time standard was effective. Catholic

hospitals usually followed the law and deducted an hour; non-

Catholic hospitals made the astrologer do a lot of extra work to

establish the correct time. I wish that I could be more specific on

giving guidelines to follow, but they simply are not there.

 

TO SUMMARIZE: Prior to July 1, 1959, summer births in Illinois may

or may not be expressed in CST and question-ing of the time is

advisable. Chicago births, whether Catholic hospitals or not, are

probably expressed in whatever time standard was effective.

Springfield births are probably expressed in Standard Time. Catholic

hospitals probably fol-lowed the law and recorded births in Standard

Time, Non-Catholic hospital births should have the time standard

questioned.

 

AFTER JULY 1, 1959, the legislature declared that all births and

deaths would be recorded in whatever time standard was being

followed because of the hodgepodge which had resulted from the

earlier ruling. How soon this information fil-tered into the

consciousness of those working in delivery rooms is an unknown

factor..

 

RE: ENERGY CRISIS TIME CHANGES. A most important note to make in

your "Time Change" books is for the unique periods when we had a

prolonged use of daylight-saving as a result of the energy crisis.

Jan. 5, 1974 to Oct. 27, 1974 and then from Feb. 23, 1975 to Oct.

26, 1975 are the effective dates.

 

EXCEPTIONS to this prolonged na-tionwide use of daylight-saving are

found in 66 counties of Kentucky (not specified by the newspaper) ,

eastern Indiana, Arizona, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, and

American Samoa - all of which remained in Standard Time.

 

Re: KANSAS AND MISSOURI. I have never seen this daylight-saving

informa-tion published and it, too, should be recorded in "Time

Change" books for future reference. My edition of Doane's "Time

Change" book states that daylight-saving was not used in Kansas, for

exam-ple.

 

Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas, across the river from

one another, began using DST on June 1, 1964, but I do not have a

date when it ceased. No other cities in Kansas or Missouri at the

time, except St. Louis Missouri and its suburbs, were using daylight-

saving in 1964. This information came from the newspaper) the Kansas

City Star, and was published on May 8, 1964 as an announce-ment.

 

DEDUCTION: All astrologers should receive at LEAST $125 an hour for

having to deal with such nonsense!

 

Copyright 1984 by T. Patrick Davis and Mercury Hour. All Rights

Reserved. Starflash Productions www.starflash.com

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya, Uttara <muttaraphalguni

wrote:

 

To Wendy, Neena and All,

 

Before I leave for the Hospital this morning, I see that the three

websites I gave last evening about Standard Time by law did not

transfer properly. So, I have included their passages below for

clarity.

 

At the website of Sacred Astronomy

 

http://home.earthlink.net/-templeharakhte/Astro_Logic.html

 

"About Birth Times: Until 1957 in the U.S. all births were

required by law to be recorded in standard time, even thought

Daylight or War Time may have been in use. Many hospitals did not

comply with this law and recorded the birth from the clock. And so

we have a large number of inconsistently-recorded birth certificates

especially in Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Hawaii also changes

its time stand rad in 1947. Check your birth certificate if you

were born in the summer and note if the letters after the birth time

specify the time in use(CST>CDT<EST<EDT<or AHST<HST). In Europe,

similar deviations occurred during times of conflict, and geographic

maps have been redrawn in many places throughout Europe and Asia

that have altered the time standard".

 

 

http://www.starfish.com/mercury-hour/Glowaty.htm

 

Loretta Glowaty October, 1996 Downers Grove, IL You mentioned

in (90/39) that T. PAT DAVIS had called you and told you that

Illinois demanded all hospitals use Standard Time for births and

deaths and that it was a long standing law until July 1, 1959, which

is true. But they didn't all follow the law. I clipped the article

out with the intention of putting it in my "Time Changes in the USA--

Revised Edition," by Doris Chase Doane only to discover an article

by T. PAT DAVIS dated June 17, 1984, regarding time changes in

Illinois. I copied that sheet and it follows here. You might want to

rerun it for those Astrologers who missed it in 1984. It is an

excellent article. (See end of my letter for T. PAT DAVIS'

article) One of the reasons I bring it up is because I have found

that some Birth Certificates before Jul. 1, 1959, are in CDT and

some in CST in Illinois. As an example, a couple of weeks ago, I

did an update on a client born September 6, 1955, in Berwyn, IL.

When she

first came to me a few years ago, I deducted the hour. In the

meantime she took an Astrology Class and asked the teacher to do her

chart. The teacher cited the Illinois law and did not deduct the

hour. However, my client tells me my predictions were more on target

and that she believes the time on her birth certificate probably is

in Daylight time. I bet a lot of birth certificates before July 1,

1959, were recorded in daylight-saving Time. As Ms. Davis point-ed

out, "not everyone knew the law, or it was dependent oh whether the

birth was in a Catholic or Public Hospital." I am wondering how

others who do a lot of Illinois charts handle this problem and what

feedback they get from their clients. What I do now is ask the

client if says CST on their birth certificate. My son Andy was born

July 7, 1958, at 7:15 A.M. CST. CST is written on the certificate so

the person who wrote the time and added CST was cognizant of the

law. But there are birth certificates where CST is not written

on them. Then we might wonder whether that time is CST or CDT. The

person recording the time might have just looked at his/her watch

and put it down. I guess the only sure way is to rectify the chart

before doing it. On the subject of Rectification, I have just

passed my NCGR Level 3 Exam and must now learn how to rectify as

part of the Level 4 Exam. I'd be interested in hearing what methods

readers of Mercury Hour use. Copyright 1996 by Loretta Glowaty and

Mercury Hour. . Starflash Productions.

www.starflash.com

 

http://chartshop.astrology.com/help/faq.html

 

"What If I was born during the summer in Illinois before 1959 or

Pennsylvania before 1971? Illinois and Pennsylvania had special

state laws requiring that birth times be recorded in Standard Time,

even when Daylight Time was being observed. If you were born in the

summer in Illinois (before 1959) or Pennsylvania (before 1971),

please check your birth certificate for your birth time and the time

zone. If your birth certificate specifies Standard Time (signified

by "ST" after your birth time), then you must ADD one hour to your

birth time when requesting charts on our services. Our system will

then subtract the extra hour, "thinking it is Daylight Time"

 

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Added Note: Not all computer programs accurately adjust for War

Time or Daylight Saving Time. If computer's do adjust for time it

is done on the wide knowledge of time for the time zone and does not

take into consideration State, province, local locality or hospital

rules that govern different practices of recording time.

 

Uttara

 

p.s. My birth along with the majority of my siblings, inclduing my

older sister who passed away shortly after birth, were all in a

Catholic Hospital, Cook County, Illinois, USA. The obstetrican was

the same for 5 of her 7 children. My adopted sister was born in a

catholic hospital to, but unfortunately, I do not have an accurate

birth certificate and it too has been altered when she was adopted.

 

I am adding in the link table of the database a reference to all

Vital Statistic addresses throughout the USA along with its article

on the 1974 privacy act regarding who is allowed to acquire a birth

certificate. For those interested, please check your local Vital

Statistics dept in the County you were born for any updated

addresses and fees. Most if not all have websites these days

through the State you are inquiring.

 

I am also going to try and give the above links to websites on

theses articles to transfer properly into the database Link Table.

 

 

 

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fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not

our darkness, that most frightens us...... There is nothing

enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure

around you..... As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give

other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from

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