[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Curse and remedy question

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Dear Supriti,

With the data you gave I am getting Moon in 0Ar58. I am not using

Lahiri Ayanamsa. With lahiri ayanamsa on the date you gave moon is in

last few degrees of pisces. One day before with Krushnas aynamsa I

am getting moon in pisces. If that was your criteria for selecting

the dates and that too based on Lahiri then we add another layer of

complexity.

I used Krushnas ayanamsa which is about 1 degree and few seconds less

than lahiri.

 

In any case, another technique that might be helpful will be prashna.

 

In any case, if somone more knowledgable on the list may take up this

chart for further rectification it will be a good exercise.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

ps : I also do not know if one needs a rectified lagna to prescribe

any mantras or any special stones.

 

 

 

, "Supriti Majumdar"

<supriti15@h...> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> I have been looking at different years and dates and I can't seem

to

> match the time (around 11:40 PM), day (saturday) with Pisces Moon

> other than the time I have given.

>

> This lady's father said that they had casted the horoscope right

> after birth and she was born during Meena Rashi. The horoscope was

> found in a bad state and they could read only the day and time from

> there. Hence this dillemma.

>

> I have great faith in your reading but I can't match it with the

> details given to me by her and her father.

>

> I hope to keep pursuing this path of enlightenment.

> Sincerely,

> Supriti

>

> , "ashsam73" <ashsam73>

wrote:

> > Dear Kaimal,

> > Yes, one also needs to verify chart further. Since the option of

3

> > years were given and 3 different dates keeping birth time of

11:40

> > makes it very difficult.

> >

> > The first question I asked was on marriage. With leo lagna there

> are

> > 2 zeores in SAV as well as shani is causing full delay. The lady

> > also does not have blessings of Guru or Father or mother. Mostly

> all

> > points are low for 7th house, 4th, 5th and 12th house. Guru is

in

> > libra and Venus to sun distance is 45.somethign degree and venus

in

> > nak of rahu. So marriage should be delayed to about 30 years..

> >

> > With Virgo lagna there is only 1 zero in the 8th and no delay due

> to

> > shani .. still there is slight delay due to shani as its giving a

> > zero to 8th.

> >

> > The other events I tried to time blindly based on Ashtakvarg

points

> > and most are in the vicinity. But with rectification as you know

> is

> > most difficult and for that one needs a thorough knowledge of a

> > system. I am a student.

> >

> >

> > The way I try to rectify chart (upto now) is by timing event.

> > The Logic I follow is that If birth time is right then it follows

> > that all events should match of life.

> >

> > I tried to see if she was prone to cancer, and the answer was

that

> > yes she had some benign tumour. The area was Ovaries that also I

> had

> > given as shani was giving 0 points to 8th house. Marriage time

> also

> > matches as she married in Guru antra which is LoD or 4th lord

> however

> > with low points. Child birth also match. I said first child

would

> > be conceived just after marriage i.e in Guru antra itself. Check

> the

> > points of Guru for 11th house. Next antra was that of Shani and

> > shani has low points for 11th house. So no child. Here I had

> > predicted a childbirth due to fact that shani is karak (6thlord)

> and

> > samdharmi to Venus who has highest points however shani does have

> low

> > point. At this time I also would need to see the chart of her

> > husband but in any case I was wrong here but if you go by points

> then

> > you will notice that shani has low points for 11th house. Next

> antra

> > of mercury has high points for 11th house so it gave second child.

> >

> > Cast the points and see also compare the chart between virgo and

> leo

> > and then for all 3 years and all 3 dates.

> >

> > Body marks, birth marks etc can also be used but I have not

persued

> > the chart further. Again physical features and

tall/short/medium,

> > round/flat etc must be understood keeping in mind

desha/kaal/paatra

> > principle and these are all relative.

> >

> > These are all with virgo lagna. The same can be done for all 3

> years

> > and all 3 dates and all major periods of her life verifiried with

> her

> > appearance etc... its a long and tedious task and one need many

> more

> > events of life to verify and this task may take lots of time.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > You rarely make a mistake in cases like these and I was just

> > wondering!If

> > > her Lagna is Leo,it should reflect in her appearance and

> nature.She

> > should

> > > have a heavy face,a cannot ignore personality,a take charge and

> even

> > > overbearing nature and a generous and protective and

patronising

> > attitude to

> > > those who depend on her or accept her leader status.

> > > Regards

> > > Kaimal

> > > -

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73>

> > > <>

> > > Monday, March 08, 2004 9:34 PM

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Curse and remedy question

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > I do not think her lagna is Leo. If shes married this early

> then

> > her

> > > > Lagna must be Virgo.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Supriti Majumdar"

> > > > <supriti15@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > This lady got married at a very young age - 05/1969.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for reading my email.

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

A5 is also mantra pada, so a Guru can help elevate her problems as Guru

is in own sign. She can serve her Guru instead. The affliction comes

from Saturn and Mars in rasi drishti and Guru being in own house will

also naturally protect its own MT, which is the 5th.

Jupiter is the karaka for Putrakaraka.

 

love,

 

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

 

 

 

Supriti Majumdar [supriti15]

10 March 2004 18:33

 

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Curse and remedy question

 

Dear Swee,

 

You have said that her sufferings can be alleviated if she continues

to propitiate on a regular basis. Are u talking about propitiating

Ma and Sa? If so how can she do that?

 

The other point that I wanted to make is that Sarbani pointed out

that her A5 is afflicted. She has 2 daughters and both her daughters

are very close to her. They live in USA and she lives in India but

they call her regularly and render her a lot of support. Can A5

affliction show separation from children.

 

Also u said that a person that has a planet in gandanta when the

person has crossed his/her gandanta period is elevated. Does this

mean she will be spiritually evolved? What are the time periods for

the diffrent planets?

 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Thank you

Supriti

 

, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sarbani,

>

> By graha drishti you mean when a benefic conjoins a malefic? Going

> through your analysis, you have given ONLY the 7th aspect from

Saturn

> and Mars to Moon and Jupiter.

>

> Further, you have chosen AK Moon to be the most afflicted as it is

also

> in marana, that is understood, but not totally incurable as 2

benefics

> conjoin in a dual sign and Jupiter is in a movable sign in Navamsa

AND

> in parivatana with Venus (rajas guna in sattvic sign) hence the

> sufferings can be alleviated as long as she continues to propitiate

on a

> regular basis (due to retrograde Mercury and Saturn, slowest planet-

3

> benefics are in dual signs in navamsa with aspect to Saturn.)

>

> Hari: the 6th from AmK is PK Saturn in the 8th, so isn't this area

and

> retro Mercury lacking? Would it be easy for the person to just

chant her

> mantras with the 2nd house lord (vak siddhi) in retrograde?

>

> Now, what about the 3rd and 10th from Saturn and the 4th and 8th

from

> Mars by graha drishti?

>

> It is pretty clear that by rasi drishti, Mercury, Moon and Jupiter

are

> all afflicted by Saturn and Mars. (Note the sustenance is Venus is

in

> own MT of the Movable sign in Rasi and is 2nd from both Saturn and

> Mars).

>

> Altogether, we cannot disregarded the fact that rasi drishti is the

> clear cut way of looking at a curse. Otherwise, how do we time the

curse

> with Moola dasa if they are not Rasi based with the grahas involved?

> Besides, her current Moola dasas are all Dual Signs.

>

> There is something to be said about any planet in gandanta. She has

> already crossed that period. Zoran and I discussed this in Puri and

> agreed that when a person has crossed his/her gandanta period, the

> person's status elevates- 7th heaven! My Moon is AK in gandanta,

crossed

> the period too...........

>

> Please elucidate.

>

> love,

>

> Swee

> swee@b...

> www.brihaspati.net

>

>

>

>

> Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...]

> 08 March 2004 06:25

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Curse and remedy question

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> Curses on natural benefics occur when they have a GRAHA drishti of

> two more natural malefics, namely, Saturn (sorrow), Mars (anger)

and

> Rahu (shock). In the chart given by you, all these three planets,

> that is Saturn, Mars and Rahu have graha drishti on Jupiter (curse

of

> a Brahmin) and Moon (curse of the mother). Charts often have

multiple

> curses, but only ONE primary curse shall operate. Secondly, curses

do

> not have much meaning or impact unless the Atma Karaka is involved.

> In this case, the curse on Moon shall prevail, as Moon is the Atma

> Karaka. When the curse involves AK, it is very strong and causes a

> lot of suffering. The moon though vargottama is in marana karaka

> sthana in both rasi and navamsa. The Moon is in gandanta (this is a

> dosha and not a curse) as well, making the affliction on it severe

> and complete. This will ruin the house it owns, i.e. the 12th

> (investments, expenditures, shayana sukha) and the house it is the

> karaka of, i.e. the 4th. The 4th house is the sukha sthana and has

> her AL and UL there as well. Hence marriage is directly implicated

as

> a problem area as well as finance.

>

> She went through Rahu Moola dasa since 1995-2001, followed by Ketu.

> She is also running Rahu Vimsottari. Rahu is the worst malefic for

> the Moon and it is placed in the 7th house, from where it is

> aspecting the 8th house and the 8th lord. The 8th house is the

maraka

> for the 7th, signifying end of marriage or problems. Both the lords

> of the 7th house, saturn and rahu are involved in the curse, hence

> her marriage is going to cause a lot of suffering, as both the 7th

> house, its lords and the UL are involved in the curse.

>

> Saturn and Mars also has rasi drishti on the 2nd house from UL,

which

> shows the sustenance of the upapada. Although Jupiter is aspecting

> the 2nd from UL (that is why her marriage has not broken), please

> remember it is an afflicted Jupiter. It is this Jupiter which is

the

> 8th lord aspected by Rahu, Saturn and Mars. So it has prevented the

> legal break...so far. Saturn and Mars are in the 2nd house, thus

also

> spoiling family life and wealth. Since Jup is the lord and karaka

of

> the 5th house and associated with the curse and the Moon and the

8th

> house also has A5...her relationship with her children is also

> affected.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

>

>

>

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